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GreYMisT
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States6736 Posts
December 13 2015 20:26 GMT
#223
On December 14 2015 02:01 Damdred wrote:
factually marv has been spotty as scum lately if he will do anything or not.



how do you respond to this statement then?
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United States6736 Posts
December 13 2015 20:29 GMT
#229
On December 14 2015 05:27 DarthPunk wrote:
And why am I scum for it when other people have expressed similar sentiments and are town? Like, is everyone who has stated that Greymist is scummy but are not voting for him also scum?

That makes no fucking sense.


DP has a point here marv, I filtered him and unless im missing something he said im suspicious, never that I was his choice of a lynch to follow you. Why him over Rels if this is the case?
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United States6736 Posts
December 13 2015 20:30 GMT
#231
On December 14 2015 04:21 Rels wrote:
Marv still hasn't posted! Good, I don't have to read anything in the few minutes I have. See you all tomorrow, I'll have a lot more time than this weekend


Well fuck
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United States6736 Posts
December 13 2015 20:36 GMT
#235
Well guys, we have an hour and a half to discuss marvs last posts, figure out if he is still the lynch, and if not find another. My first impression is that it seems weird that he alternates between having reads on DP and rels, but only wants to kill DP. what do you guys think about that?

In the meantime im going to look at the other options for lynch. I'm no longer confortable with rayn as a lynch. Thinking about what ritani said about his meta, and clearing up that inconsistancy i thought i saw in his post allieviated a lot of my concerns. I am looking at rels and damdred atm because I am leaning town on DP.

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Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States6736 Posts
December 13 2015 20:46 GMT
#249
I found 2 things about rels. first this post sticks out to me:

On December 13 2015 19:43 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2015 08:32 DarthPunk wrote:
Rayn
I guess you would call this a 'tone' read or whatever, but I am pretty darn good at spotting a townie rayn and alot of what he says makes sense. HIs damdred read was godlike and hard to fake as I have said earlier. His questioning of Rels was also good in that it showed one of the tendencies that I can recall rayn having. That being that he loves to really comb through the things people are saying in order to find small inconsistencies or breakdowns of a normal thought Process.

But you don't have a read on Damdred after saying rayn's read is godlike ?
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2015 08:34 DarthPunk wrote:
GreyMist

On December 13 2015 03:20 GreYMisT wrote:
On December 13 2015 00:49 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Rels i have a really hard time understanding your thought process atm so could you walk me through it.
There are a couple of things:

1) Your read on Greymist. I actually find it one of the weirdest things in this game that he does not have any sort of read on me. Before your posts two of the three people posting in this game besides him and me have stated they have a townread on me. What i would think Greymist would do is to either agree with the read, or disagree with the read (let it be null/scum for him then). Instead he doesn't do any of this. I consider myself the most vocal person in this game so far besides Damdred --> i would think people would have at least some opinion on me. Apparently you do aswell now, everyone else who has posted (after our morning) does, why is it not weird for you that Greymist doesn't?

(that goes to Greymist aswell, i would like to hear an explanation to this)

2) Your read on RtaniSoul. You think they are second likely to be mafia (calling marv mafia here is just straight out bullshit), based on the fact all they did is call your #1 scumread scum?!?!?! How on earth does this make any sense at all?

3) Why is your vote on someone you can't possibly have any read on instead on someone who you DO apparently have a read on, and you legitmately, based on you, think is mafia?


I don't have time at the moment to post any follow up analysis, so I will only answer the question directed at me.

I did not include any thoughts on you, Ryan, in part because you have been vocal. There is a little more for me to have to figure out and I'd like to not post a read on you until I have.

It's going to be a couple more hours still before I'm able to actually post a lot again, but I promise I'm reading and can interject if need be.


This smells like bullshit to me.

It's true it sounds like a bad excuse.


That agreement with DP at the end strikes me as really weird, but I dont know why. Maybe its becuase its really just meaningless, he doesnt use the time or space to push me or ask a question, and there really is no followup along this line from him.

and then there is a possible overreaction becuase i mentioned his name in this post:

On December 13 2015 19:43 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2015 08:32 DarthPunk wrote:
Rayn
I guess you would call this a 'tone' read or whatever, but I am pretty darn good at spotting a townie rayn and alot of what he says makes sense. HIs damdred read was godlike and hard to fake as I have said earlier. His questioning of Rels was also good in that it showed one of the tendencies that I can recall rayn having. That being that he loves to really comb through the things people are saying in order to find small inconsistencies or breakdowns of a normal thought Process.

But you don't have a read on Damdred after saying rayn's read is godlike ?
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2015 08:34 DarthPunk wrote:
GreyMist

On December 13 2015 03:20 GreYMisT wrote:
On December 13 2015 00:49 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Rels i have a really hard time understanding your thought process atm so could you walk me through it.
There are a couple of things:

1) Your read on Greymist. I actually find it one of the weirdest things in this game that he does not have any sort of read on me. Before your posts two of the three people posting in this game besides him and me have stated they have a townread on me. What i would think Greymist would do is to either agree with the read, or disagree with the read (let it be null/scum for him then). Instead he doesn't do any of this. I consider myself the most vocal person in this game so far besides Damdred --> i would think people would have at least some opinion on me. Apparently you do aswell now, everyone else who has posted (after our morning) does, why is it not weird for you that Greymist doesn't?

(that goes to Greymist aswell, i would like to hear an explanation to this)

2) Your read on RtaniSoul. You think they are second likely to be mafia (calling marv mafia here is just straight out bullshit), based on the fact all they did is call your #1 scumread scum?!?!?! How on earth does this make any sense at all?

3) Why is your vote on someone you can't possibly have any read on instead on someone who you DO apparently have a read on, and you legitmately, based on you, think is mafia?


I don't have time at the moment to post any follow up analysis, so I will only answer the question directed at me.

I did not include any thoughts on you, Ryan, in part because you have been vocal. There is a little more for me to have to figure out and I'd like to not post a read on you until I have.

It's going to be a couple more hours still before I'm able to actually post a lot again, but I promise I'm reading and can interject if need be.


This smells like bullshit to me.

It's true it sounds like a bad excuse.


prompting him to 3rd party defend rayn. maybe im reaching but I'd be ok with a rels lynch if thats the play.

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GreYMisT
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States6736 Posts
December 13 2015 20:50 GMT
#251
oh and ##Unvote: Marvellosity

You guys are right, although a scum or town marv could enter the game like that, its not alignment indicitave.

I'm going to vote Rels until we figure out whats what

##Vote: Rels
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GreYMisT
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States6736 Posts
December 13 2015 21:19 GMT
#264
On December 14 2015 06:14 Damdred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2015 05:50 GreYMisT wrote:
oh and ##Unvote: Marvellosity

You guys are right, although a scum or town marv could enter the game like that, its not alignment indicitave.

I'm going to vote Rels until we figure out whats what

##Vote: Rels


This post though rayn has me super skeptical on gm here.

Myself and you (and policy lynching marv which he somewhat disagrees wirh) are his top scum reads or his strongest ones.

Marv seems to ignore his question he asked about his spotty mafia play. Gm doesn't seem to care and basically follows onto Rels who are his top scum reads scum.

Then comes up with a reason but then doesn't try to figure more out.

Its weird


I'd be pusing marv more about it, but right berfore i posted that he said he was leaving and evidently he did. So, like ryan said, we either have to lynch marv because fuck it, or we lynch someone else. I feel weirder about rels than I do about anyone else, for the reasons i pointed out. and am most comfortable with that atm.
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GreYMisT
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States6736 Posts
December 13 2015 21:39 GMT
#273
As will I
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GreYMisT
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States6736 Posts
December 13 2015 21:42 GMT
#276
That is what I was starting to get at with my question to him, weird that he pushes DP but spends seemingly more time analyzing Rels. Its easier to analyze teammates, especially ones who dont seem, at the time, like they are the target that day.

However, Im not sold on Marv being mafia, his focus seemed weird but he did all of that in like a one hour period. Even though it seemed all over the place to me it seemed genuine.
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GreYMisT
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States6736 Posts
December 13 2015 21:43 GMT
#277
Rels we need another target other than Marv, what do you have and why
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GreYMisT
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States6736 Posts
December 13 2015 21:43 GMT
#278
Or if it is still marv after his appearance explain
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GreYMisT
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States6736 Posts
December 13 2015 21:53 GMT
#296
Im staying on rels
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GreYMisT
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States6736 Posts
December 13 2015 21:58 GMT
#307
I don't think marv is the lynch today, you are all panicking
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GreYMisT
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States6736 Posts
December 13 2015 22:00 GMT
#312
Ah well there you go
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GreYMisT
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States6736 Posts
December 14 2015 16:04 GMT
#391
On December 14 2015 06:45 Rels wrote:
Marv not voting me is town indicative.
Damdred and rayn were townreads.
So scum are between gm dp and rsoul I think.
##Unvote
##Vote arsoultin

Did the minimal work while not being under fire.


Real fast while I figure shit out. Is this the only reason you had for not voting marv? becuase its the only one I see.
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GreYMisT
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States6736 Posts
December 14 2015 16:07 GMT
#397
On December 15 2015 01:02 Damdred wrote:
Rayn I do have an issue with that greymist part.

He does cast doubt towards Marv, but he drops that doubt pretty quickly even though Marv basically ignored interacting with him.

Also for someone who has doubts about Marv refusing to move back to scum Marv and looking maybe to go elsewhere other than Marv and rels is super strange.

Like if he's doubting Marv why so staunch on rels? It doesn't make sense


And the reason for this was, at the time the chaos started, Marv said he was gone. There would be no more answers or conversations with him. I decided that voting Rels was a better play as I had a day's worth of information, while anything I had on marv was clouded by the fact that he was only here for a very minimal amount of time.

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GreYMisT
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States6736 Posts
December 14 2015 16:07 GMT
#398
On December 15 2015 01:07 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Greymist too, why didn't you switch back in the end.
Can you explain that as well as you can -- let it all come from your heart <3


see above
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GreYMisT
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States6736 Posts
December 14 2015 16:11 GMT
#399
On December 15 2015 01:04 Rels wrote:
OK if I'm not welcome here I will wait for these to get answers before coming back.
GM I'm waiting for you.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/499921-really-small-mafia-ii?page=17#329 (only the 2nd thing)
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/499921-really-small-mafia-ii?page=18#344
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/499921-really-small-mafia-ii?page=19#365


1) I dont understand the question
2) it looks like you are panicing and not trying to actually find scum. A town player in that situation would try to help and get the vote off of him, you said "shut up scum" voted rayn, realized that wasnt happening, and voted off.
3) and I think i might have misquoted as you said. I see it as a 3rd party defense because I posted suspicions of ryan, and you came in and broke down the post instead of waiting to see how rayn would react to it, like I would assume a town would who wants more information.
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GreYMisT
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States6736 Posts
December 14 2015 16:31 GMT
#404
On December 15 2015 01:14 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2015 01:07 GreYMisT wrote:
On December 15 2015 01:02 Damdred wrote:
Rayn I do have an issue with that greymist part.

He does cast doubt towards Marv, but he drops that doubt pretty quickly even though Marv basically ignored interacting with him.

Also for someone who has doubts about Marv refusing to move back to scum Marv and looking maybe to go elsewhere other than Marv and rels is super strange.

Like if he's doubting Marv why so staunch on rels? It doesn't make sense


And the reason for this was, at the time the chaos started, Marv said he was gone. There would be no more answers or conversations with him. I decided that voting Rels was a better play as I had a day's worth of information, while anything I had on marv was clouded by the fact that he was only here for a very minimal amount of time.


What does the bolded part mean?


It means that he had to compact a days worth of mafia play into like 1 hour. I thought that might account for the way in which he seemed to be bouncing back and forth in his analysis.

Rels, I'm going to go back and reread that and make sure
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GreYMisT
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United States6736 Posts
December 14 2015 16:34 GMT
#406
Ok I see now, I didnt misquote, just didnt format the best way. the "3rd party defend" statement that I said referred to the same one you quoted, and my thoughts were based on that.
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