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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
December 13 2015 17:31 GMT
#181
On December 14 2015 02:13 RtaniSoul wrote:
As scum, it tends to resemble more of a very precocious toddler trying to force a triangle through a circle-shaped hole.

wow, such rude
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GreYMisT
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States6736 Posts
December 13 2015 18:17 GMT
#182
On December 14 2015 02:28 raynpelikoneet wrote:
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See, i can't legit understand the arrows with the questionmarks.

You had said, after i had done those things that you do not have a read on me.
Later on, when you express your scumread on me, part of the reasoning is based on the time BEFORE you said you had no read on me.

So, i can't really figure it out why you, as town, would say you don't have a read on me if i have already done something scummy. Or if you re-read and came to a different conclusion afterwards why did you not clearly point that out then?

I am talking about these things here:
Show nested quote +

First, the way he jumped onto Rels with Damdred seems a bit rushed and oppertunistic to me. As if he is testing the waters to see if he can get something rolling.

Finally, Ryan asking my read of him. This strikes me as odd as well because it appears as though he wants to draw some early fire for an easy opportunity to defend himself through activity. A question like "why didn't you analyze me?!" Has bearing on day 2, but not a quarter into day 1 when information is still being processed.

Both of these things happened before you made this post:
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On December 13 2015 03:20 GreYMisT wrote:
I did not include any thoughts on you, Ryan, in part because you have been vocal. There is a little more for me to have to figure out and I'd like to not post a read on you until I have.

...where you literally state you do not have a read on me.

The rest of your case i consider answered properly because it is based on you misreading one of my posts, no?


Real quick, I think here lies our misunderstanding. I didn't say I had a null read on you. What I meant was that I had not analyzed your posts yet and would later. I didn't go from null read to my analysis, I went from literally no read to my analysis
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
December 13 2015 18:21 GMT
#183
Alright. I guess that is possible.
Do you think your analysis still stands?
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Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
December 13 2015 18:46 GMT
#184
Super important question I want grey to answer this before he answers anything else.

You seem to be still somewhat scum leaning Ryan is this correct?
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
December 13 2015 18:56 GMT
#185
Ryan are you here and able to give opinion?
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
December 13 2015 19:05 GMT
#186
I am here.
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Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
December 13 2015 19:21 GMT
#187
Marv still hasn't posted! Good, I don't have to read anything in the few minutes I have. See you all tomorrow, I'll have a lot more time than this weekend
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
December 13 2015 19:21 GMT
#188
I'm having a hard time waiting for grey, it seems to me,he highly suspects you still in his postings. But in the last post he seems to be trying to make one of his top scum reads understand there misunderstanding, it's like how you would talk to town.

Or am I just not reading right
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
December 13 2015 19:22 GMT
#189
hey guys.

No idea why I agreed to a game that started on a Friday when I'm always afk all weekend. I'm home briefly so lemme read.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
December 13 2015 19:29 GMT
#190
urge to vote Rels rising
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
December 13 2015 19:32 GMT
#191
On December 13 2015 01:05 Damdred wrote:
Useless Marv is scum sometimes but I'm still not following why you would rather push a player who you have no read on over a sure scum read to you.

i can tell you why

they're mafia together

dunno what to make of Grey but everyone else is looking town, so yea...
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
December 13 2015 19:35 GMT
#192
although Grey kinda seems like the bunny here
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
December 13 2015 19:39 GMT
#193
On December 13 2015 08:34 DarthPunk wrote:
oops. hit post half way through will continue.

Marv

Is this Bish dead in a ditch? if not town marv does not just afk at the start of a game IMO.

GreyMist

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On December 13 2015 03:20 GreYMisT wrote:
On December 13 2015 00:49 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Rels i have a really hard time understanding your thought process atm so could you walk me through it.
There are a couple of things:

1) Your read on Greymist. I actually find it one of the weirdest things in this game that he does not have any sort of read on me. Before your posts two of the three people posting in this game besides him and me have stated they have a townread on me. What i would think Greymist would do is to either agree with the read, or disagree with the read (let it be null/scum for him then). Instead he doesn't do any of this. I consider myself the most vocal person in this game so far besides Damdred --> i would think people would have at least some opinion on me. Apparently you do aswell now, everyone else who has posted (after our morning) does, why is it not weird for you that Greymist doesn't?

(that goes to Greymist aswell, i would like to hear an explanation to this)

2) Your read on RtaniSoul. You think they are second likely to be mafia (calling marv mafia here is just straight out bullshit), based on the fact all they did is call your #1 scumread scum?!?!?! How on earth does this make any sense at all?

3) Why is your vote on someone you can't possibly have any read on instead on someone who you DO apparently have a read on, and you legitmately, based on you, think is mafia?


I don't have time at the moment to post any follow up analysis, so I will only answer the question directed at me.

I did not include any thoughts on you, Ryan, in part because you have been vocal. There is a little more for me to have to figure out and I'd like to not post a read on you until I have.

It's going to be a couple more hours still before I'm able to actually post a lot again, but I promise I'm reading and can interject if need be.


This smells like bullshit to me.

unless you think rayn & Grey are mafia together, why does a mafia Grey write like this?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
December 13 2015 19:45 GMT
#194
okay I need to filter and see if i can connect some dots in the time i have.

pretty sure rayn and Damdred are town, don't really need to explain.

I'm a really easy mislynch right now and I'd really rather not be but I don't have the time to sit here and argue with people because I'm with someone and we're going out again. Really the only thing i can say in my defence is that such a small, short game is perfect for my mafiaplay because I don't need to post a tonne, so I'd have no reason to give up as I'm prone to do as scum

anyway let's see
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
December 13 2015 19:53 GMT
#195
On December 14 2015 04:32 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2015 01:05 Damdred wrote:
Useless Marv is scum sometimes but I'm still not following why you would rather push a player who you have no read on over a sure scum read to you.

i can tell you why

they're mafia together

did you read what i wrote about Rels/DP interaction and Rels calling him mafia and then placing his vote on you?

Do you think Rels would do that as scum with him? Why would he do that as scum with him? In case one of them gets lynched that is going to be the first thing that jumps out and at the time there was no guarantee of you getting here this late.
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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
December 13 2015 19:58 GMT
#196
so it was quite interesting reading the whole game. Grey looked pretty bad early, but his posts looked better later. so that produced an interesting narrative. rayn/damdred looked pretty town as soon as they started playing so that narrows the pool considerably

so i've been looking for players who need mislynches, their suspicions and what have you.

art/rsoul, DP, Rels were where I looked, and it looks to me very much like DP wants to keep GM open as a mislynch. In particular the post I pointed out above, and that GM is his preferred lynch after me.

so ##vote: DarthPunk

kinda less sure Rels would be his partner now, I should probably re-read rayn's post on why they can't/shouldn't be but i don't really have the time right now

Rels has a couple of reads that shift around quite markedly, and it's interesting those 2 reads are DP and GM. I can't tell atm whether this fluidity means town or mafia angling themselves around the thread, and i don't need to find out now

actually i think the posts that art and rsoul made could quite easily be made by either of them as mafia, but again this is gonna have to wait
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
December 13 2015 20:04 GMT
#197
fucking fuck.. I have no idea what to do.
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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
December 13 2015 20:04 GMT
#198
On December 14 2015 04:53 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2015 04:32 marvellosity wrote:
On December 13 2015 01:05 Damdred wrote:
Useless Marv is scum sometimes but I'm still not following why you would rather push a player who you have no read on over a sure scum read to you.

i can tell you why

they're mafia together

did you read what i wrote about Rels/DP interaction and Rels calling him mafia and then placing his vote on you?

Do you think Rels would do that as scum with him? Why would he do that as scum with him? In case one of them gets lynched that is going to be the first thing that jumps out and at the time there was no guarantee of you getting here this late.

yeah that's a proper argument

but then again this sized game is perfect for the wifom bombs.

but as a standalone argument, i agree with you
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
December 13 2015 20:08 GMT
#199
maybe Rels is just town for it and it's actually rsoul/Lex and they've managed to make 3 or 4 nice sounding posts and the whole game townreads them for it

Rels' play is a lot dirtier than rsoul/lex's which is kinda townie

i mean it might make sense for mafia in this setup to distance themselves with bussing maybe? setting up a case on DP. But then if that's the case then he probably should follow through, so it's not even that he's voting an afk over a scumread, ti's the fact that the narrative doesn't make sense.

possibly.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
December 13 2015 20:09 GMT
#200
I really believe Rels is mafia over DarthPunk if that is the case...
It's really hard for me to believe him having the reads for the reasoning he has as town.
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