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Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
December 18 2015 22:06 GMT
#1221
On December 19 2015 07:01 Sukrit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 19 2015 06:59 Tictock wrote:
On December 19 2015 06:57 Sukrit wrote:
On December 19 2015 06:53 Tictock wrote:
Quick List post Not in Order

Town:
10 Shapelog
13 LightningStrike

Prob Town
1 GiygaS
4 Tubesock
3 Rels
8 kushm4sta

Null/Unsure
7 Sukrit (more of a scum lean)
9 Damdred

Scum
2 Koshi
6 Vivax


I think a team of Koshi/Vivax + Onegu fits, but really I'm just thinking Koshi/Vivax is very likely atm.

Koshi is never mafia with Damdred here.



So I bus koshi hard from the start...


Given how I've seen you two play before?

It's not impossible that you'd both roll scum and tunnel the shit out of each other.

Your shape read is really shit btw.


He is scum.


I sense you have given up your high effort game.

WIFOM makes me think this could be because you think we will scum read you for being active now that we know it's you. Which tells me you care more about how we view you than how the game is progressing.
I can take that responsibility.
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
December 18 2015 22:07 GMT
#1222
On December 19 2015 06:58 Shapelog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 19 2015 06:56 Tubesock wrote:
On December 19 2015 06:47 Tictock wrote:
I'll get to it Koshi, but here is why I think you are mafia and why people should be voting for you.

- Insists Damdred is Mafia, wants to vote Rels who made a case on Damdred D1

- Keeps pushing a team that makes no sense, based only on Damdred's shenannies EoD1

- Very defensive of AFK Vivax for no reason

- Shit fighting with Onegu just kus it's Onegu and always pushing him as mafia (like you've got 5 mafia in your lists and seem to want to push them all equally)

I think the biggest things here are you ignoring that Rels/Damdred is never a thing, and you keep saying Damdred is scum but push Rels.


This isn't true.


I already know TT's incoming question, Can you Explain? Also yeah, lately even Koshius is sus. about his house elf friend Vobby. Still null/idk read him i think.


First part I was thinking Kush in my head instead of Damdred. But do you think Rels really pushed his case? Like invested in it? I remember him moving on to other folks pretty quick. So, yeah I think he could have done a case and backed off. Anyone could have. He's had 1 scum game. Why would anyone play exactly the same on their 2nd scum game? I certainly didn't. Why would he?

Koshi bases his case against Damdred on his shenanies. Koshi also sees a lot scummy with Rels. Koshi doesn't see any strong evidence that they can't be together. They are all separate points.

Sure about the defensive I guess.

yeah he shit fights and they don't like each other.

Soooo not all of it isn't true.
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
December 18 2015 22:12 GMT
#1223
Reminder: Voting is mandatory.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Sukrit
Profile Joined May 2015
136 Posts
December 18 2015 22:15 GMT
#1224
On December 19 2015 07:06 Tictock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 19 2015 07:01 Sukrit wrote:
On December 19 2015 06:59 Tictock wrote:
On December 19 2015 06:57 Sukrit wrote:
On December 19 2015 06:53 Tictock wrote:
Quick List post Not in Order

Town:
10 Shapelog
13 LightningStrike

Prob Town
1 GiygaS
4 Tubesock
3 Rels
8 kushm4sta

Null/Unsure
7 Sukrit (more of a scum lean)
9 Damdred

Scum
2 Koshi
6 Vivax


I think a team of Koshi/Vivax + Onegu fits, but really I'm just thinking Koshi/Vivax is very likely atm.

Koshi is never mafia with Damdred here.



So I bus koshi hard from the start...


Given how I've seen you two play before?

It's not impossible that you'd both roll scum and tunnel the shit out of each other.

Your shape read is really shit btw.


He is scum.


I sense you have given up your high effort game.

WIFOM makes me think this could be because you think we will scum read you for being active now that we know it's you. Which tells me you care more about how we view you than how the game is progressing.



I have lost motivation.
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5188 Posts
December 18 2015 22:15 GMT
#1225
On December 19 2015 07:01 Tictock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 19 2015 06:58 Shapelog wrote:
On December 19 2015 06:56 Tubesock wrote:
On December 19 2015 06:47 Tictock wrote:
I'll get to it Koshi, but here is why I think you are mafia and why people should be voting for you.

- Insists Damdred is Mafia, wants to vote Rels who made a case on Damdred D1

- Keeps pushing a team that makes no sense, based only on Damdred's shenannies EoD1

- Very defensive of AFK Vivax for no reason

- Shit fighting with Onegu just kus it's Onegu and always pushing him as mafia (like you've got 5 mafia in your lists and seem to want to push them all equally)

I think the biggest things here are you ignoring that Rels/Damdred is never a thing, and you keep saying Damdred is scum but push Rels.


This isn't true.


I already know TT's incoming question, Can you Explain? Also yeah, lately even Koshius is sus. about his house elf friend Vobby. Still null/idk read him i think.


Yep.

What do you think isn't true?

1. True, for the most part.
2. True, again. Do not think is the main reason why you should based your argument on though. I can see him honestly doing that. Scum would just take the lynch at that point, especially when they say the person was scum and their post right before EOD ended. Pushing a team that doesn't make sense is more in the NAI IMO
3. Overly Defensive for his Vobby, Even he is starting to not trust Vobby (i think he said it in his last list) Not really because it isn't true. Just wanted to point this out. (I realized this could be racist if Koshius is white and Vobby is black. Hm)
4. Half true, they haven't really keep it up, which i guess points them to scum? Onegu lynch should come after Koshius lynch. Onegu does have a lot of people he scum reading, be is focusing both me and koshius mainly.

5. again not the main point. I know, i do not like it either. The play for mafia makes no sense since it was really what brought half the people onto Damred and Rels. But can just be him being a stubborn child (naughty child?).

I agree with most of this, just 5 and 2 aren't good enough for the main reason why to lynch him IMO. He could be scum trying to push multiple fronts at once. But honestly, if both Onegu and Koshius is doing this, they are making differcult to secure a lynch IMO. More like, "well they got to have at least one person to go after." Maybe they are trying to hide it?




"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
GiygaS
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada1043 Posts
December 18 2015 22:17 GMT
#1226
Dam you gonna pull some EoD shenanigans again or just die?
AKA gigyas, gigas, giygas khan, giyga khan, giyga...
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5188 Posts
December 18 2015 22:17 GMT
#1227
On December 19 2015 07:01 Sukrit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 19 2015 06:59 Tictock wrote:
On December 19 2015 06:57 Sukrit wrote:
On December 19 2015 06:53 Tictock wrote:
Quick List post Not in Order

Town:
10 Shapelog
13 LightningStrike

Prob Town
1 GiygaS
4 Tubesock
3 Rels
8 kushm4sta

Null/Unsure
7 Sukrit (more of a scum lean)
9 Damdred

Scum
2 Koshi
6 Vivax


I think a team of Koshi/Vivax + Onegu fits, but really I'm just thinking Koshi/Vivax is very likely atm.

Koshi is never mafia with Damdred here.



So I bus koshi hard from the start...


Given how I've seen you two play before?

It's not impossible that you'd both roll scum and tunnel the shit out of each other.

Your shape read is really shit btw.


He is scum.


+1
2015's best reason to call a person scum.
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
December 18 2015 22:29 GMT
#1228
I don't feel a Rels lynch maybe a koshi lynch would be good Lolo.

I'm not sure exactly
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
December 18 2015 22:38 GMT
#1229
I understand I only have 24 minutes left to think things through.

Like from my perspective if Rels flips scum what was the scum team doing today nothing,but bussing? (Highly possibke)

That would,mean that scum is either playing the long con with bussing or is some of the lower posters in the thread (myself included).

If he flips scum I think it actually points to Tt being town trying to push off scum Rels in a hopeless situation bit really doesn't mean much in that regard. Probably makes him town though going after a hard target in this situation.

So lynch is interesting information wise especially the less movement we seem to be having around eod if Rels is scum anyway if town its just as interesting to me.
But I have to,decide where to vote.

Only two options are koshi and Rels. And I don't think trolling aside I like either
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
December 18 2015 22:38 GMT
#1230
hahaha

Holy fuck.

Can't believe you think I am mafia.

can't believe it.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
December 18 2015 22:39 GMT
#1231
Look at damdred

Pushing mafia agenda again.

hilarious.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
December 18 2015 22:39 GMT
#1232
be more desperate.
I had a good night of sleep.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
December 18 2015 22:41 GMT
#1233
Desperate for what her ring out of this game with you? Quite so
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
December 18 2015 22:42 GMT
#1234
I do'nt even know what that means.
I had a good night of sleep.
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
December 18 2015 22:43 GMT
#1235
Is this a tinfoil hat party? If so I brought mine here:
[image loading]
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5188 Posts
December 18 2015 22:43 GMT
#1236
Vobby still is a no show btw....
@damred, personally i think the info from Rels flip is better for all the reasoning you just said and them some.
@everyone Going to restrict my posting for EOD. (11 page filter lol. 11-6 or 7 = 5/4 pages of filter today) Unless i see something big that i have to point out. Saying this so you guys do not think i am being inactive.
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
December 18 2015 22:44 GMT
#1237
Desperate to get out of the game with you yes I am.

Nothing I've said fits my mafia agenda you are at best confirmation biased or at worst scum. I still think it's the former.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
December 18 2015 22:44 GMT
#1238
On December 19 2015 06:45 GiygaS wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 19 2015 06:41 Tictock wrote:
On December 19 2015 06:28 GiygaS wrote:
Weird timeline thing with rels:
- He makes meta case on LS
- I make a post about it
- He reads through the thread (the infamous caps post), then makes post saying LS is town
- OMGUS' on me

Ugh, I've been so fucking wishywashy with this, but I'm going to vote Rels

##Vote Rels


I'd like to check this, which posts are you referring to?


#269
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2015 08:05 Rels wrote:
I stayed up for posting this. I thought the deadline was 1 hour earlier.

Here is LS filter from the game I just played, in which he was town:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/498635-dark-tournament-mini-mafia?user=LightningStrike

Here is his filter from this game:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/499399-tl-mafia-lxxiii-the-nutcracker?user=LightningStrike

It's a schocking difference. LS as town in dark tournament mafia posted reads, questionned stuff and overall looked to solve the game. In this game, he had NO game-related post until I asked him for a list of reads.

I think this guy is scum.
##Vote LightningStrike


#357
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2015 15:35 GiygaS wrote:
Still looking over everyone, but I'm sort of stuck on rels. Like I just don't understand his play coming from an experienced player (at least I presume he is based on posts). Like in addition to the things Koshi already said about him, his question seemed to go towards this weird meta-lynch on LS. Like look at this post:

On December 15 2015 08:05 Rels wrote:
I stayed up for posting this. I thought the deadline was 1 hour earlier.

Here is LS filter from the game I just played, in which he was town:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/498635-dark-tournament-mini-mafia?user=LightningStrike

Here is his filter from this game:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/499399-tl-mafia-lxxiii-the-nutcracker?user=LightningStrike

It's a schocking difference. LS as town in dark tournament mafia posted reads, questionned stuff and overall looked to solve the game. In this game, he had NO game-related post until I asked him for a list of reads.

I think this guy is scum.
##Vote LightningStrike


There's 9 hours between this post and LS replying to his list. In these 9 hours, LS is pretty on top of things, his content isn't isolated to this list that was requested, and they're pretty relevant to the game. I don't think LS is particularly townie, but this is a pretty bullshit case on him.

It just feels like rels posted a weird question and then wanted to attach meaning to it so he put up this weird argument that doesn't even make sense. He even ignored that already noted scummy post from LS (the one where he's talking about conserving posts for the filter), the dude he's talking about.


#369
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2015 18:03 Rels wrote:
On December 15 2015 09:48 LightningStrike wrote:
On December 15 2015 08:44 Damdred wrote:
Ls why should I not vote you ^^. Will be home to read and bomb soon

JESUS CHRIST I TOWN THIS GAME TOO THATS WHY. .....LIKE YOU JUST PLAYED WITH ME WHEN I HAD A TERRIBLE DAY 1. Anyways just got done with my last final and will read what I missed after that post.

Fuck he's probably town
##Unvote


373
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2015 18:14 Rels wrote:
On December 15 2015 15:35 GiygaS wrote:
Still looking over everyone, but I'm sort of stuck on rels. Like I just don't understand his play coming from an experienced player (at least I presume he is based on posts). Like in addition to the things Koshi already said about him, his question seemed to go towards this weird meta-lynch on LS. Like look at this post:

On December 15 2015 08:05 Rels wrote:
I stayed up for posting this. I thought the deadline was 1 hour earlier.

Here is LS filter from the game I just played, in which he was town:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/498635-dark-tournament-mini-mafia?user=LightningStrike

Here is his filter from this game:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/499399-tl-mafia-lxxiii-the-nutcracker?user=LightningStrike

It's a schocking difference. LS as town in dark tournament mafia posted reads, questionned stuff and overall looked to solve the game. In this game, he had NO game-related post until I asked him for a list of reads.

I think this guy is scum.
##Vote LightningStrike


There's 9 hours between this post and LS replying to his list. In these 9 hours, LS is pretty on top of things, his content isn't isolated to this list that was requested, and they're pretty relevant to the game. I don't think LS is particularly townie, but this is a pretty bullshit case on him.

It just feels like rels posted a weird question and then wanted to attach meaning to it so he put up this weird argument that doesn't even make sense. He even ignored that already noted scummy post from LS (the one where he's talking about conserving posts for the filter), the dude he's talking about.

Here is the content LS produced between my question and my accution in those 9 hours, excluding the posts that answer to me:
On December 15 2015 06:08 LightningStrike wrote:
Sorry I been conserving my posts a little bit more as I had 1 page of posts already so I trying to limit myself a little bit now. But Koshi pretty much town for me atm. Also Damdred if you are here can you give me your thoughts on TT or other The smurf guy please?

On December 15 2015 07:54 LightningStrike wrote:
On December 15 2015 07:52 ritoky wrote:
On December 15 2015 06:08 LightningStrike wrote:
Sorry I been conserving my posts a little bit more as I had 1 page of posts already so I trying to limit myself a little bit now. But Koshi pretty much town for me atm. Also Damdred if you are here can you give me your thoughts on TT or other The smurf guy please?


this is a very bad post. clearly reading the thread, clearly hyper aware of the post limit, has a motive for not posting frequently; yet in his hello senpai post he elects to give no content of his own and simply defers all content to damdred. i noticed you, even if no one else did.

I gave a read in that post plus asking Damdred about you?

On December 15 2015 07:58 LightningStrike wrote:
On December 15 2015 07:56 ritoky wrote:
On December 15 2015 07:54 LightningStrike wrote:
On December 15 2015 07:52 ritoky wrote:
On December 15 2015 06:08 LightningStrike wrote:
Sorry I been conserving my posts a little bit more as I had 1 page of posts already so I trying to limit myself a little bit now. But Koshi pretty much town for me atm. Also Damdred if you are here can you give me your thoughts on TT or other The smurf guy please?


this is a very bad post. clearly reading the thread, clearly hyper aware of the post limit, has a motive for not posting frequently; yet in his hello senpai post he elects to give no content of his own and simply defers all content to damdred. i noticed you, even if no one else did.

I gave a read in that post plus asking Damdred about you?


you gave a 0 content town read on the guy spamming the thread who is probably never getting lynched on day 1 and whom the person who's opinion you're deferring to said he is never lynching day 1. it is the easiest read to just make offhand.

I had him null leaning town and was giving a update on my read on him.......................

On December 15 2015 08:03 LightningStrike wrote:
FYI I just finished a game+ Show Spoiler +
I won as VT
and can now focus more on this game now! Anyways I do think ritoky is town atm with his questioning towards.

You dirty liar.
##Vote GiygaS


Oh ok, I had seen this.

I thought you meant you had seen LS's Caps post and thought he was town, then Rels attacked you for it but had the same read. Which would be pretty scummy, but thats not what happened here.

Rels was pushing you here kus you said there was no posts from LS between his meta case and meta-unvote. Then showed that there was and called you a liar.

Like sure maybe thats scum!Rels throwing OMGUS onto you, but I can easily see town!Rels doing the exact same thing.

In both cases (LS and Gigas) Rels eventually backed down and gave them townreads. Assuming you two are both town this would mean scum!Rels is giving up 2 potential mislynches in you two.
I can take that responsibility.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
December 18 2015 22:45 GMT
#1239
Ugh. This will be so hilarious when rels is town and you already set up the ml on me. so fucking hilarious. tt, damdred, onegu. some others are now joining as well.

will be fucking grant.

cba.

I have been nr 1 poster entire game and you people call me mafia. sad.

there is no hope for players like you all.
I had a good night of sleep.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
December 18 2015 22:45 GMT
#1240
On December 19 2015 07:43 LightningStrike wrote:
Is this a tinfoil hat party? If so I brought mine here:
[image loading]


Lmao.

I need both the things that guy has.

Maybe 3 things if you count the priceless expression on his face.
I can take that responsibility.
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