TL Mafia LXXIII: The Nutcracker - Page 61

On December 19 2015 06:28 GiygaS wrote:
Weird timeline thing with rels:
- He makes meta case on LS
- I make a post about it
- He reads through the thread (the infamous caps post), then makes post saying LS is town
- OMGUS' on me

Ugh, I've been so fucking wishywashy with this, but I'm going to vote Rels

##Vote Rels

On December 19 2015 06:32 Damdred wrote:
What was the question I missed it wasn't on the last page of your filter that I saw.

On December 19 2015 06:41 Tictock wrote:


I'd like to check this, which posts are you referring to?

On December 15 2015 08:05 Rels wrote:
I stayed up for posting this. I thought the deadline was 1 hour earlier.

Here is LS filter from the game I just played, in which he was town:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/498635-dark-tournament-mini-mafia?user=LightningStrike

Here is his filter from this game:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/499399-tl-mafia-lxxiii-the-nutcracker?user=LightningStrike

It's a schocking difference. LS as town in dark tournament mafia posted reads, questionned stuff and overall looked to solve the game. In this game, he had NO game-related post until I asked him for a list of reads.

I think this guy is scum.
##Vote LightningStrike

On December 15 2015 15:35 GiygaS wrote:
Still looking over everyone, but I'm sort of stuck on rels. Like I just don't understand his play coming from an experienced player (at least I presume he is based on posts). Like in addition to the things Koshi already said about him, his question seemed to go towards this weird meta-lynch on LS. Like look at this post:



There's 9 hours between this post and LS replying to his list. In these 9 hours, LS is pretty on top of things, his content isn't isolated to this list that was requested, and they're pretty relevant to the game. I don't think LS is particularly townie, but this is a pretty bullshit case on him.

It just feels like rels posted a weird question and then wanted to attach meaning to it so he put up this weird argument that doesn't even make sense. He even ignored that already noted scummy post from LS (the one where he's talking about conserving posts for the filter), the dude he's talking about.

On December 15 2015 18:03 Rels wrote:

Fuck he's probably town
##Unvote

On December 15 2015 18:14 Rels wrote:

Here is the content LS produced between my question and my accution in those 9 hours, excluding the posts that answer to me:




You dirty liar.
##Vote GiygaS

On December 18 2015 23:03 Tubesock wrote:
I don't think it's impossible Rels and Kush4masta are not mafia mates. I also think I could be wrong on one or even both possibly. Apparently, a lot of you read this as I'm saying they both are mafia mates and this is exactly what happened. My point here is simply that bussing Day 1 in this very specific instance is a better play than trying to save your partner. And thus is possible, and you should not town someone or disregard an argument that one or the other is mafia because they simply "can't be teammates".

I think it was Kush's first post where he said he may want replaced out due to not being a big game.
He had that post where he expressed disappointment that he did not die.

This is a player who does not want to play.

If Kush4masta was lynched, Rels would have looked mighty towny.

Kush4masta did not want to play.

I had a post where I said to Kush4masta "I don't want to be a dick but do you want to revise this statement?" and bolded a portion in one of his quotes. 2 people immediately saw it and commented on it. Lynch liars. I don't remember why exactly I put this line in here. It's kinda separate thought.

Tell me that these two can't be mafia together.

On December 18 2015 23:46 Rels wrote:

Am I reading this right
Cause if I am, you are pushing the idea that scum USUALLY BUSSES HAPPILY DAY 1 (I am not at all pushing scum "usually" or "happily" bus Day 1 I don't even really see how he gets that), that it was a plan (yes, I did think this scenario as I described is plausible and planned), and I followed that plan BY CALLING FOR A VIG SHOT ON MY PARTNER N1 (This is completely irrelevant to my argument. It doesn't negate it in any way)
You even read my FUCKING sotw game where I deflected all pushes against my partners, most importantly from AFK Damdred D1 (This is an entirely different scenario)

THIS POST WAS ORIGINALLY WRITTEN LIKE THIS BUT I FEAR THE MODKILL

On December 19 2015 06:36 GiygaS wrote:
Vivax is worth discussing if he shows up.

On December 19 2015 06:53 Tictock wrote:
Koshi is never mafia with Damdred here.

On December 19 2015 06:52 Onegu wrote:



Filter

On December 19 2015 06:47 Tictock wrote:
I'll get to it Koshi, but here is why I think you are mafia and why people should be voting for you.

- Insists Damdred is Mafia, wants to vote Rels who made a case on Damdred D1

- Keeps pushing a team that makes no sense, based only on Damdred's shenannies EoD1

- Very defensive of AFK Vivax for no reason

- Shit fighting with Onegu just kus it's Onegu and always pushing him as mafia (like you've got 5 mafia in your lists and seem to want to push them all equally)

I think the biggest things here are you ignoring that Rels/Damdred is never a thing, and you keep saying Damdred is scum but push Rels.

On December 19 2015 06:53 Tictock wrote:
Quick List post Not in Order

Town:
10 Shapelog
13 LightningStrike

Prob Town
1 GiygaS
4 Tubesock
3 Rels
8 kushm4sta

Null/Unsure
7 Sukrit (more of a scum lean)
9 Damdred

Scum
2 Koshi
6 Vivax


I think a team of Koshi/Vivax + Onegu fits, but really I'm just thinking Koshi/Vivax is very likely atm.

Koshi is never mafia with Damdred here.

On December 19 2015 06:56 Tubesock wrote:


This isn't true.

On December 19 2015 06:57 Sukrit wrote:



So I bus koshi hard from the start...

On December 19 2015 06:58 Shapelog wrote:


I already know TT's incoming question, Can you Explain? Also yeah, lately even Koshius is sus. about his house elf friend Vobby. Still null/idk read him i think.

On December 19 2015 06:59 Tictock wrote:


Given how I've seen you two play before?

It's not impossible that you'd both roll scum and tunnel the shit out of each other.

Your shape read is really shit btw.