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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
December 18 2015 21:04 GMT
#1161
lael

y u ignore all posts I give in which I say why rels is mafia?
I had a good night of sleep.
GiygaS
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada1043 Posts
December 18 2015 21:04 GMT
#1162
TT, any updates on that first part of the game where you quoted LS?
AKA gigyas, gigas, giygas khan, giyga khan, giyga...
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
December 18 2015 21:07 GMT
#1163
On December 18 2015 23:38 Tubesock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 18 2015 23:29 Koshi wrote:
Yeah. For me there is a very good possibility that Kush/Rels/Damdred are mafia together and that Damded did a yolo play to save Kush.

There is something unholy about them.


I think TT ruined their play. If TT stayed on GiygaS then Kush dies.

Rels looks great for pushing him earlier.
Damdred looks good because the only correct answer is town does shenanies at the end.


This doesn't make a lot of sense, why would they bus a teammate like this? Why would Rels bus both teammates.

The team is not fucking Rels/Damdred/Kush!

Like maybe the stuff I said about how Damdred saw I was planning to vote GB and saw me suggest Vivax so tried to shennanie Vivax to save Kush. That's risky though kus if I had voted Vivax with Damdred then Kush gets lynched anyways.
I can take that responsibility.
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
December 18 2015 21:07 GMT
#1164
Rels is basically it for me.

I can vote for Damdred but I'm not going to push it and frankly I don't think he's anything but a coinflip at the moment. But I know I won't feel bad even if he flips town. I will explain this post game.
GiygaS
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada1043 Posts
December 18 2015 21:08 GMT
#1165
On December 19 2015 05:49 GiygaS wrote:
- He's getting on Damdred for his EoD1 move, but hasn't brought up TT at all in that respect

Going to read through tt and then ls next. When I was reading through kush he seemed to bring up some good points. I don't like the Rels case at all right now, seems mostly based on Shape tinfoil team theories and general misinformation.

Retracting these pieces of information after further reading. Going to go over all of the Rels/Damdred stuff one more time before I move on.
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
December 18 2015 21:10 GMT
#1166
Ticktock.
Who are your PoE mafia? Who is town?
Can you give me a list?

I think you are bullshitting hard here.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
December 18 2015 21:11 GMT
#1167
Like.. You don't think Rels is mafia anymore?
Entire game you call Rels mafia,

and now that I vote Rels over Damdred.

I am mafia?
I had a good night of sleep.
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5188 Posts
December 18 2015 21:11 GMT
#1168
On December 19 2015 06:07 Tictock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 18 2015 23:38 Tubesock wrote:
On December 18 2015 23:29 Koshi wrote:
Yeah. For me there is a very good possibility that Kush/Rels/Damdred are mafia together and that Damded did a yolo play to save Kush.

There is something unholy about them.


I think TT ruined their play. If TT stayed on GiygaS then Kush dies.

Rels looks great for pushing him earlier.
Damdred looks good because the only correct answer is town does shenanies at the end.


This doesn't make a lot of sense, why would they bus a teammate like this? Why would Rels bus both teammates.

The team is not fucking Rels/Damdred/Kush!

Like maybe the stuff I said about how Damdred saw I was planning to vote GB and saw me suggest Vivax so tried to shennanie Vivax to save Kush. That's risky though kus if I had voted Vivax with Damdred then Kush gets lynched anyways.


Comptely agree because i been saying Damred and Rels team has been impossible/highly unlikely since EoD. Thought Koshius was going to learn.

I think our Lynch options today are: Rels Kouhius and Oengu. prob. in that order, but i might being bias on Rels. Idk i still think Kubrels is best lynch. Koshius lynch also reveals a lot of info as well if he flips scum. But if he is town, we kinda have a iffy situation where we can not afford to screw up.
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5188 Posts
December 18 2015 21:12 GMT
#1169
On December 19 2015 05:49 GiygaS wrote:[/B

Going to read through tt and then ls next. When I was reading through kush he seemed to bring up some good points. I don't like the Rels case at all right now, seems mostly based on Shape tinfoil team theories and general misinformation.


Wasn't suppose to be i guess, mostly brought up by TubeSock.

[B]On December 19 2015 05:44 Tictock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 18 2015 20:05 Sukrit wrote:
On December 18 2015 05:51 Tubesock wrote:
On December 16 2015 07:51 Sukrit wrote:
Kush is a terrible lynch. I agree with GB's reads so I dont really want to lynch him. At this point it is TT for me.

##unvote

##Vote: Ticktock


On December 16 2015 13:48 Sukrit wrote:
On December 16 2015 04:18 Koshi wrote:
Onegu.

Let's be honest here.

I read you filter.

It is filled with randomness and koshi accusation.

I see 1 read on TT, and I see some Shape pressure. The Shape thing is not bad, I don't think he is mafia, but the pressure is not horrible.




Anyway. I promise to not go off on you in this game anymore. And I will my VERY BEST to help you solve this game.




The best help I can give you is to stop focusing on me. I am not mafia. You can still push me as much as you want, but I will not reply to it too much, I will just explain myself, but if you want your filter to look good endgame, you really should stop.



Last game I tried to tilt you. And I deserve some of what I got here because of it. This game I am not trolling, I am not trying to make you upset. And I will continue to not troll this game.

I am not ready to drop my scummy read on you. But I am not really interested in lynching you tomorrow either. I prolly should have voted kush I would have rather lost him than GB but meh. Vivax was maybe the best lynch option and was put up way to late.

In the past I have enjoyed playing with you koshi and hope to still enjoy playing with you in the future but comeon.

I am not giving up my shape read. Onegu gut read!


Can you talk about the underline. Why did you oppose the Kush lynch during it, never say anything about not wanting to lynch GB and then say you would have rather lost Kush? Seems like you were there throughout it.

Also, has the gut read changed on Shape?



Will post here. Not my big post.

Kush is never a good day one lynch. Basically you will never figure him out and it is 26% or what ever the percentage is for rolling scum this game what 3/13. I thought GB was town as all of his reads completely matched mine. I had a town read on GB. And if I had to choose between GB still being in the game or kush I would take GB as he is more likely to figure the game out and actually get the scum lynched where kush no offense has the same problem I do. We cant get people lynched even when we figure the game out.

And yes I still really dont like shape. I think he has plenty of free time and typeing walls of text isnt hard for him/her. He is rsoultin I am sure.

Rsoultin=Scum

Shape=Scum


I really don't think this is true. This seems like a really bad assumption to make.

Onegu I'm really not following your thinking here at all.

You say Shape is Rsoul, thus is mafia and
Show nested quote +
I think shape is a rsoultin smurf and I have stopped reading her posts...


Like you have no proof, aren't trying to show why this is true, but are immediately using this smurf idea to tunnel and ignore Shape.

You are doing kinda the same thing with Koshi.
Show nested quote +

Koshi proven wrong and still doesnt back off... Could get on the koshi is mafia train. Wait I have been on it for a while.


I kinda get this, and it's true Koshi isn't making a lot of sense, but can you explain your thinking a bit better?

Like what differentiates town!Koshi from scum!Koshi? Koshi's play looks a lot like his Town game from Mansion, but tbh I've never looked at his scum games.

I agree with some of your stream of thoughts post, but it's looking to me like you are forcing yourself to stay tunneled on Shape and Koshi with these half-assed reasons that you don't try to backup.

I know you and Koshi will probably tunnel each other regardless of alignment ([spoiler=tinfoil]In fact, I could actually see Koshi and Onegu shit fight each other as scum just to shit up the thread and keep in line with expectations.[/spoiler] but you really need to do more than:
Show nested quote +
Then plz lynch me. I dont have the clout to lynch you. If people didnt know I was onegu still then maybe I could have gotten you lynched. You are scum and you are going to mislynch me and that is fine would prefer if it was today.

Your read on me has going I am 100% scum to I am town and to help you figure the game out back to I am mafia. Your read progression makes zero sense and you have no reason to scum read me other than the fact that I have figured you out.


Like Koshi did the same shit as town last game, why wouldn't he do it now? You could probably flip the bolded around too because you seem to always push Koshi.

Idk, last game I felt like Onegu was pushing Koshi's buttons just kus he could. This is feeling more like Onegu is just pushing Koshi kus he feels like he should and is inventing reasons to tunnel Shape.

I still need to finish my catchup, but I'm thinking Onegu is a solid lynch based off these shit reasons to tunnel people.

Funny thing though, I kinda agree about Koshi he's not making much sense today pushing a team of Rels/Damdred/Kush and wanting to lynch Rels who is the least likely member of that team.


I can see where your getting at TT. Brought onegu up once or twice today but keep forgetting to check his filter. About him and Koshius being mafia. I can understand your tinfoil, One does one thing the other does the other.
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
December 18 2015 21:12 GMT
#1170
Koshi is town.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
December 18 2015 21:13 GMT
#1171
On December 19 2015 02:46 Shapelog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 19 2015 01:20 kushm4sta wrote:
Here's some tinfoily stuff.


On December 17 2015 09:36 Shapelog wrote:
Plus killing the person who is defending you seems like only a thing i do.

ritoky defended shape.

Do not think my actively is actually any alignment indicating for me. Would of been the same activeness roughly if I rolled mafia. Except maybe a bit thought out and better fleshed posts since i had a team to relay things. But then i prob. post dumb, dull, crap time to time because they weren't on lol.


what if shape is giving himself away here just as a little wink to himself


I really, really, really, really, want to this to be true. Btw you also enter the Tinfoil club with me and TT. Main reason i posted all "I would do this as mafia" so when i play another game and i am not as active you people will lynch me and see that focusing on meta is a secondary reasoning to lynch someone.

Bit caught up now. Do not think Vobby is the best lynch today. A Rels or even a Damred flip would be more telling.


This sounds like BS, I doubt you'd say that just to go "Gotcha! See meta is shit" after the end of another game... Besides you've been using meta all over the place this game. Though to be fair you've been doing a decent job of not basing a read solely based off of that.

This prob doesn't mean anything though kus Self-meta is meh.
I can take that responsibility.
GiygaS
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada1043 Posts
December 18 2015 21:14 GMT
#1172
I was talking about the case on ls that kush brought up shape.
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
December 18 2015 21:14 GMT
#1173
I don't even know how I could be mafia.
I had a good night of sleep.
GiygaS
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada1043 Posts
December 18 2015 21:15 GMT
#1174
Can someone point me at the cases against rels and damdred? I don't want to miss any. I know I made one on rels long ago but I don't know exactly who else has.
AKA gigyas, gigas, giygas khan, giyga khan, giyga...
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5188 Posts
December 18 2015 21:15 GMT
#1175
idk acutrally about Koshius come to think about it. One part of me wants to lynch him because of shits, giggles, and because he is being irrational to the point of ripping my hair out. The other side says Rels flip info outweighs Koshius flip info. Could be wrong about the info flip.

Has Kubrels really posted anything yet? other than at koshius for voting him over damdred or something. Last thing i remember from him.
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
December 18 2015 21:16 GMT
#1176
On December 19 2015 02:51 Koshi wrote:
##unvote
##vote Rels


Hmm The big posts from TT looks good enough to follow. I don't think it is scummy at all Kush. Pretty well written.


Except you clearly didn't read it kus I was still thinking Rels could be town after that.

And I've been showing how Rels doesn't fit in a Damdred/Kush team in that post.

So... no dice. I think we lynch koshi and pat Onegu on the back when he flips scum, yes?
I can take that responsibility.
GiygaS
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada1043 Posts
December 18 2015 21:16 GMT
#1177
On December 19 2015 06:14 Koshi wrote:
I don't even know how I could be mafia.

I have a null read on you for reasons above. You are not the priority to lynch right now though in my eyes.
AKA gigyas, gigas, giygas khan, giyga khan, giyga...
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
December 18 2015 21:16 GMT
#1178
You have to evaluate individually Rels and Kush.

Thinking they can't be both is fatal. I've already said why. Think about it.

You people are already pretty on the fence about Rels. Like I've been pushing for it seems days and days. You are on the fence with him NOW.

Now think about a world where Kush died AND flipped mafia.

NO ONE would consider Rels mafia. No one.

This does NOT mean they are mafia mates. It does however debunk the silly idea that they can't be both mafia so which one is town argument. Evaluate them on their own.

Spend more time thinking and less time posting.
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
December 18 2015 21:17 GMT
#1179
On December 19 2015 06:15 GiygaS wrote:
Can someone point me at the cases against rels and damdred? I don't want to miss any. I know I made one on rels long ago but I don't know exactly who else has.


Have you read any post this game? Seriously.
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5188 Posts
December 18 2015 21:18 GMT
#1180
On December 19 2015 06:13 Tictock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 19 2015 02:46 Shapelog wrote:
On December 19 2015 01:20 kushm4sta wrote:
Here's some tinfoily stuff.


On December 17 2015 09:36 Shapelog wrote:
Plus killing the person who is defending you seems like only a thing i do.

ritoky defended shape.

Do not think my actively is actually any alignment indicating for me. Would of been the same activeness roughly if I rolled mafia. Except maybe a bit thought out and better fleshed posts since i had a team to relay things. But then i prob. post dumb, dull, crap time to time because they weren't on lol.


what if shape is giving himself away here just as a little wink to himself


I really, really, really, really, want to this to be true. Btw you also enter the Tinfoil club with me and TT. Main reason i posted all "I would do this as mafia" so when i play another game and i am not as active you people will lynch me and see that focusing on meta is a secondary reasoning to lynch someone.

Bit caught up now. Do not think Vobby is the best lynch today. A Rels or even a Damred flip would be more telling.


This sounds like BS, I doubt you'd say that just to go "Gotcha! See meta is shit" after the end of another game... Besides you've been using meta all over the place this game. Though to be fair you've been doing a decent job of not basing a read solely based off of that.

This prob doesn't mean anything though kus Self-meta is meh.


True, i been a bit hypocritical (or what ever it is) in that sense. typed the really part first and went back too it.
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
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