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Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
December 18 2015 20:56 GMT
#1158
On December 18 2015 22:13 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 18 2015 18:01 Tictock wrote:
On December 14 2015 08:09 Koshi wrote:
I ll keep my filter low this game. Just going to focus on cases and finding mafia.
Not making excuses but my game might be trash.
We will see. But I will not be buddied.

disclaimer: don't expect too much though. Will probably still be pretty low content stuff.


Koshi now with an 8 page filter... Lol

On December 16 2015 07:59 Koshi wrote:
Vivax is impossble and fucking no information in there if he flips town. What the fuck are you doing Damdred. You fucker.


Koshi why do you keep siding with Vivax based on nothing? I know you did this last game as town, but there he at least went bonkers when I pushed him. What has he done to deserve you defending him like you have this game?

Also you've ebeen pretty sure Rels and Damred are mafia together today, but I think I showed why thats not possible in my big wall back there.

What do you think about them now?

Vivax could be mafia. But he also could be town.

Remember how in last game I actually found that GB could not be mafia because of the fefe fiter? And that Chrom was most likely mafia from the fefe filter?
Retarded as I am, I didn't follow that information, BUT, that kind of information is HUGE. Also, I think there is a very good chance Damdred flips mafia, Vivax is like 60% due to PoE.

Damdred is 60% due to PoE and I got brilliant reasons.


So then why are you LYNCHING RELS!?!?!

I can see a possible team of Damdred/Kush +1 from the way EoD went. Even though I wasn't voting between the wagons yet I had said I would likely vote GB, so there is a slim chance that scum!Damdred saw that as a chance to save his teammate!Kush and tried to shenannies to put GB in the lead after my vote. It's a little far fetched, but I could see it happening. There is a few other things that actually support this, such as Rit's NK, and the change in behavior from both Damdred and Kush (kush getting more active, Damdred sinking more into the shadows).

Rels makes no sense though. Your saing Rels decided to bus both his teammates D1, I don't buy it. Rels has a history of finding alternative lynches and protecting his teammates. I guess maybe he could purposefully make that change to his meta but it seems like such poor mafia play... I don't buy it, not from Rels.
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
December 18 2015 20:59 GMT
#1159
On December 18 2015 22:33 Koshi wrote:
I hope you are town Onegu. I would enjoy actually seeing you play a game as town. Then you can realize how hard actually playing is. I do not believe rsoultin is so insanely crazy to play as Shape is doing. Totally different stuff.




Damdred is mafia. +85%

Rels is maybe mafia. But he actually also has pushed the people I think most likely are mafia. Maybe Rels is their powerrole, but I am not going to go into WIFOM lane and I prefer not to lynch Rels atm. Even though the cases on him are believable.

Vivax could very well be mafia. But he is not worth lynching in this stage of the game for me. Maybe somebody can shoot him?

Kush is looking less and less mafia. But I think he still can be. I cannot shake the feeling he was saved EoD1. I do not think he is mafia with Rels though.

Onegu..................................................... I don't know. I just can't read him it seems. You people decide on him. I would lynch him.

TT. The reason why TT is mafia: He hasn't solved the game in his mind yet. Or isn't pushing for the solution of the game. I know he does that as town. Just like I do it, I want people to follow my solution. TT normally does the same. But dnu if I want to lynch.

Tubesock. I don't think he is mafia. But he is like... the most possible after all these others?


others are town



Why I don't want to lynch Rels yet:
- Rels is being scumread by TT (and Tubesock) and voted Kush, while Kush was saved by TT and Damdred.

Somewhere it could be that Rels/TT/Kush are mafia... and then TT saved Kush while Damdred was being pants on head. But because TT is more townie than Damdred, and because EoD1 I think it is way more likely Damdred is mafia. Also general posting of TT >>>> Damdred.


all in all... I know I haven't solved the game 100% certain yet. And all my uncertainties kinda push a Rels lynch.... So... I kinda push against that now.




Another good reason why Onegu is mafia, he already said a couple times this:
If we lynch this guy and he flips this alignment then Koshi is this alignment.

You need to fill in names and alignments but I remember him saying:
if we lynch TT and TT is scum, koshi is town.
if we lynch Rels and Rels is town, we lynch Koshi.

And these sentences make me VERY WARY of Onegu................


WTF. Again Koshi is saying he is very sure Damdred is mafia, and here even says he's uncertain about Rels.

But he's still voting Rels!?!
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
December 18 2015 21:02 GMT
#1160
On December 18 2015 23:29 Koshi wrote:
Yeah. For me there is a very good possibility that Kush/Rels/Damdred are mafia together and that Damded did a yolo play to save Kush.

There is something unholy about them.


Thats it, this makes no sense. I've brought up plenty of evidence as to why this team can't be possible and Koshi keeps pushing it anyways.

He's super certain about Damdred, and is voting Rels.

This is a new level of nonsense from Koshi, I don't buy it.

##Vote: Koshi
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
December 18 2015 21:07 GMT
#1163
On December 18 2015 23:38 Tubesock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 18 2015 23:29 Koshi wrote:
Yeah. For me there is a very good possibility that Kush/Rels/Damdred are mafia together and that Damded did a yolo play to save Kush.

There is something unholy about them.


I think TT ruined their play. If TT stayed on GiygaS then Kush dies.

Rels looks great for pushing him earlier.
Damdred looks good because the only correct answer is town does shenanies at the end.


This doesn't make a lot of sense, why would they bus a teammate like this? Why would Rels bus both teammates.

The team is not fucking Rels/Damdred/Kush!

Like maybe the stuff I said about how Damdred saw I was planning to vote GB and saw me suggest Vivax so tried to shennanie Vivax to save Kush. That's risky though kus if I had voted Vivax with Damdred then Kush gets lynched anyways.
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
December 18 2015 21:13 GMT
#1171
On December 19 2015 02:46 Shapelog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 19 2015 01:20 kushm4sta wrote:
Here's some tinfoily stuff.


On December 17 2015 09:36 Shapelog wrote:
Plus killing the person who is defending you seems like only a thing i do.

ritoky defended shape.

Do not think my actively is actually any alignment indicating for me. Would of been the same activeness roughly if I rolled mafia. Except maybe a bit thought out and better fleshed posts since i had a team to relay things. But then i prob. post dumb, dull, crap time to time because they weren't on lol.


what if shape is giving himself away here just as a little wink to himself


I really, really, really, really, want to this to be true. Btw you also enter the Tinfoil club with me and TT. Main reason i posted all "I would do this as mafia" so when i play another game and i am not as active you people will lynch me and see that focusing on meta is a secondary reasoning to lynch someone.

Bit caught up now. Do not think Vobby is the best lynch today. A Rels or even a Damred flip would be more telling.


This sounds like BS, I doubt you'd say that just to go "Gotcha! See meta is shit" after the end of another game... Besides you've been using meta all over the place this game. Though to be fair you've been doing a decent job of not basing a read solely based off of that.

This prob doesn't mean anything though kus Self-meta is meh.
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
December 18 2015 21:16 GMT
#1176
On December 19 2015 02:51 Koshi wrote:
##unvote
##vote Rels


Hmm The big posts from TT looks good enough to follow. I don't think it is scummy at all Kush. Pretty well written.


Except you clearly didn't read it kus I was still thinking Rels could be town after that.

And I've been showing how Rels doesn't fit in a Damdred/Kush team in that post.

So... no dice. I think we lynch koshi and pat Onegu on the back when he flips scum, yes?
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
December 18 2015 21:21 GMT
#1184
On December 19 2015 03:52 Damdred wrote:
Man I'm being a shitter this game but its ok, the games pretty boring and not many are doing work so I don't feel as bad.

idk who I'm voting for maybe no one.


Ugh, this play is starting to remind me of what you did in SotW Damdred.

Check my questions to ya, who do you want to lynch?
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
December 18 2015 21:22 GMT
#1185
On December 19 2015 03:57 Damdred wrote:
All today has been basically is stupid play trying to figure out teams when you haven't even flipped one of uscum.

Rels while he isn't the model of towniness looks town to me who's only spent maybe a hour or two in the game....

But meh id rather get lynched todya over rels shrug.


...and shit like this isn't helping.
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
December 18 2015 21:27 GMT
#1189
On December 19 2015 05:38 Onegu wrote:
Fuck I forgot no trolling ignore my previous post.

Koshi I have played serious games you were in some of them, then some asshole pissed me off in the game I put the most effort in my mafia life. So I decided it was more important to enjoy myself.


Can you try to post on Sukrit plz?

If only for filter reasons?

Or maybe Mods can add a filter for Onegu's account to the OP since he outed himself?
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
December 18 2015 21:30 GMT
#1192
On December 19 2015 06:04 Koshi wrote:
lael

y u ignore all posts I give in which I say why rels is mafia?


What did I ignore?

I don't see anything you've posted other than the XtoY w/e OMGUS voting stuff.

Your reasoning on Rels being mafia with Damdred and Kush is so bad, you constantly say you think Damdred is mafia, but you keep focusing on Rels.
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
December 18 2015 21:33 GMT
#1194
On December 19 2015 06:04 GiygaS wrote:
TT, any updates on that first part of the game where you quoted LS?


Nah, I need to look him over again at some point but I don't think he's scum.

I noted that post in case he dropped off.

Opening post "Lets lynch scum" into inactivity would have been a scum tell imo, but that's not what LS did.

I've only played with LS once or twice before but his posting feels natural and unrestrained, also I don't see any signs he's pushing an agenda. He's not scum.
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
December 18 2015 21:37 GMT
#1200
On December 19 2015 06:11 Koshi wrote:
Like.. You don't think Rels is mafia anymore?
Entire game you call Rels mafia,

and now that I vote Rels over Damdred.

I am mafia?


Uhh Rels has been a townlean for me all game...

Who is bullshitting?

I'll do a list post when I get done, right now I'm torn between you and Damdred. I kinda think there has to be scum between you two, right now you are making less sense and Damdred isn't taking the easy option of jumping on Rels, so it's prob you.
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
December 18 2015 21:41 GMT
#1201
On December 19 2015 06:28 GiygaS wrote:
Weird timeline thing with rels:
- He makes meta case on LS
- I make a post about it
- He reads through the thread (the infamous caps post), then makes post saying LS is town
- OMGUS' on me

Ugh, I've been so fucking wishywashy with this, but I'm going to vote Rels

##Vote Rels


I'd like to check this, which posts are you referring to?
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
December 18 2015 21:42 GMT
#1203
On December 19 2015 06:32 Damdred wrote:
What was the question I missed it wasn't on the last page of your filter that I saw.


Lets start with who do you think is scum and who do you want to lynch?

We've only got ~ an hour left.
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
December 18 2015 21:47 GMT
#1206
I'll get to it Koshi, but here is why I think you are mafia and why people should be voting for you.

- Insists Damdred is Mafia, wants to vote Rels who made a case on Damdred D1

- Keeps pushing a team that makes no sense, based only on Damdred's shenannies EoD1

- Very defensive of AFK Vivax for no reason

- Shit fighting with Onegu just kus it's Onegu and always pushing him as mafia (like you've got 5 mafia in your lists and seem to want to push them all equally)

I think the biggest things here are you ignoring that Rels/Damdred is never a thing, and you keep saying Damdred is scum but push Rels.
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
December 18 2015 21:53 GMT
#1210
Quick List post Not in Order

Town:
10 Shapelog
13 LightningStrike

Prob Town
1 GiygaS
4 Tubesock
3 Rels
8 kushm4sta

Null/Unsure
7 Sukrit (more of a scum lean)
9 Damdred

Scum
2 Koshi
6 Vivax


I think a team of Koshi/Vivax + Onegu fits, but really I'm just thinking Koshi/Vivax is very likely atm.

Koshi is never mafia with Damdred here.
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
December 18 2015 21:54 GMT
#1211
On December 19 2015 06:53 Tictock wrote:
Koshi is never mafia with Damdred here.


Actually maybe this isn't true, it would explain why Koshi is so sure Damdred in scum but is pushing Rels over him.
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
December 18 2015 21:59 GMT
#1216
On December 19 2015 06:57 Sukrit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 19 2015 06:53 Tictock wrote:
Quick List post Not in Order

Town:
10 Shapelog
13 LightningStrike

Prob Town
1 GiygaS
4 Tubesock
3 Rels
8 kushm4sta

Null/Unsure
7 Sukrit (more of a scum lean)
9 Damdred

Scum
2 Koshi
6 Vivax


I think a team of Koshi/Vivax + Onegu fits, but really I'm just thinking Koshi/Vivax is very likely atm.

Koshi is never mafia with Damdred here.



So I bus koshi hard from the start...


Given how I've seen you two play before?

It's not impossible that you'd both roll scum and tunnel the shit out of each other.

Your shape read is really shit btw.
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
December 18 2015 22:01 GMT
#1218
On December 19 2015 06:58 Shapelog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 19 2015 06:56 Tubesock wrote:
On December 19 2015 06:47 Tictock wrote:
I'll get to it Koshi, but here is why I think you are mafia and why people should be voting for you.

- Insists Damdred is Mafia, wants to vote Rels who made a case on Damdred D1

- Keeps pushing a team that makes no sense, based only on Damdred's shenannies EoD1

- Very defensive of AFK Vivax for no reason

- Shit fighting with Onegu just kus it's Onegu and always pushing him as mafia (like you've got 5 mafia in your lists and seem to want to push them all equally)

I think the biggest things here are you ignoring that Rels/Damdred is never a thing, and you keep saying Damdred is scum but push Rels.


This isn't true.


I already know TT's incoming question, Can you Explain? Also yeah, lately even Koshius is sus. about his house elf friend Vobby. Still null/idk read him i think.


Yep.

What do you think isn't true?
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
December 18 2015 22:06 GMT
#1221
On December 19 2015 07:01 Sukrit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 19 2015 06:59 Tictock wrote:
On December 19 2015 06:57 Sukrit wrote:
On December 19 2015 06:53 Tictock wrote:
Quick List post Not in Order

Town:
10 Shapelog
13 LightningStrike

Prob Town
1 GiygaS
4 Tubesock
3 Rels
8 kushm4sta

Null/Unsure
7 Sukrit (more of a scum lean)
9 Damdred

Scum
2 Koshi
6 Vivax


I think a team of Koshi/Vivax + Onegu fits, but really I'm just thinking Koshi/Vivax is very likely atm.

Koshi is never mafia with Damdred here.



So I bus koshi hard from the start...


Given how I've seen you two play before?

It's not impossible that you'd both roll scum and tunnel the shit out of each other.

Your shape read is really shit btw.


He is scum.


I sense you have given up your high effort game.

WIFOM makes me think this could be because you think we will scum read you for being active now that we know it's you. Which tells me you care more about how we view you than how the game is progressing.
I can take that responsibility.
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