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On December 09 2015 07:04 DoYouHas wrote:Show nested quote +On December 09 2015 06:52 NocturneMage wrote:On December 09 2015 03:16 Rels wrote:On December 09 2015 03:11 NocturneMage wrote:On December 09 2015 03:04 Fidei86 wrote:On December 09 2015 02:51 disformation wrote:On December 09 2015 02:43 NocturneMage wrote:On December 09 2015 02:29 Fidei86 wrote:
(Disclaimer: Currently drunk)
What are the odds that Mafia Trfel thread re-enters and calls the current wagon dumpster, and tries for a wagon on NM or Rels who nobody else wants to vote? High. He did this last game, I'm almost positive. Hm. He came in when 3 ppl where voting on his teammate D1 and called that wagon mafia motivated and tried to discredit the wagon starter. Doesn't that mean that it would be Trfel DYH? Does that team even make sense? Is it likely the two main wagons Trfel and DYH (NM! Lynch LS with me) are both Mafia? Xmas party at work. It is absolutely possible that the team is HTS/DYH/Trfel (particularly with Trfel's hard defence of DYH and DYH looking into Trfel, albeit slightly delayed), and I said to Rels that the points on DYH can be sorted, but the evidence against Trfel is more definitive and alignment indicative than what is on DYH. How likely is another question though and I had tried to make the argument that you always lynch the more likely mafia of the two. HTS was 1000% more likely than DYH yesterday, and Trfel is much more likely than DYH today. he is making a position change that he cannot possibly believe. the bussing argument has been beaten to death, rels needs to explain how the read on me isn't natural because I'm apparently too dumb to see it. He mentioned that he kinda townread you; then he mentioned the NM busing theory makes some sense; then he drops it entirely. continuing back end of filter. This is entirely true, now to check it in context. two questions (1) prioritisation of issues, not clear on how to pursue people - why trfel and fidei, disfo drop was fine because it was the same issue - they can't control what hts does and so they have to look at the interactions from both people. (2) were some of these statements with thread sentiment, like to blend in? checking context of thread. might even need to parse a scum game of his. still really not sure this trumps trfel but damn me if I don't check shit first. I'm here through deadline now. Ask me stuff. I'm reading filters atm. Disfo, you should shelf the title of "best case of career" for when you write one with a correct conclusion.
Okay, will keep that part of the shelf free until you flip red. 
Since the case apparently isn't even enough to get you lynched it is probably still not good enough. 
On December 09 2015 07:07 Fidei86 wrote:
Hey Rels. LS posted in caps again. Guess that means he's town right?
Well, he is kinda annoying. I really dislike the self vote thing. Moosy likes to do that, too.
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Ah, @DYH:
First the obvious one you are hopefully currently working on:
Who do you want to lynch tonight?
And if you have some time I'd like you to explain why you flipped on me again, because I can't 100% follow your thoughts on that and I am not a fan of guessing other peoples reads.
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Much more comfortable with a Trfel lynch than a Fid one atm. Going to review Rels on Fid and NM on Trfel next.
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Change of assumptions.
I'm going to assume that even if I don't know why, the most active/vocal posters are town and mostly wrong.
And the mafia are casually standing by the side, watching and sometimes supporting, but letting others lead.
I think that this points at Fecalfeast. Thoughts?
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I haven't completely flipped on you. I am still quite suspicious. Unless shining gets in here and helps me, that doesn't matter at the moment. I said my case was weaker because I realized that I wasn't able to recognize that trfel could have had that much interaction with HtS and still be either alignment. He had interactions with Breshke last game that even knowing both of their alignments, I wouldn't have found it suspect. That means the back half of my reasoning on you is not as sound as it needed to be to push your lynch.
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On December 09 2015 07:16 DoYouHas wrote:
I haven't completely flipped on you. I am still quite suspicious. Unless shining gets in here and helps me, that doesn't matter at the moment. I said my case was weaker because I realized that I wasn't able to recognize that trfel could have had that much interaction with HtS and still be either alignment. He had interactions with Breshke last game that even knowing both of their alignments, I wouldn't have found it suspect. That means the back half of my reasoning on you is not as sound as it needed to be to push your lynch.
Well, okay that makes more sense, thanks for answering.
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Still reading folks....reading a couple other filters as well...
Still not seeing a reason to vote DYH over Trfel. Not yet.
Rels I'm not seeing an argument that is more alignment indicative. The whole HTS thing can go either way.
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On December 09 2015 07:13 Trfel wrote:
Change of assumptions.
I'm going to assume that even if I don't know why, the most active/vocal posters are town and mostly wrong.
And the mafia are casually standing by the side, watching and sometimes supporting, but letting others lead.
I think that this points at Fecalfeast. Thoughts?
The same thing applies to LS but he's just posting just to post and the case on Fidei was beyond awful.
I need to re-read his filter last game, can I do that in 40 minutes plus all this other shit....
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Disformation I feel at this time is more bad than mafia but I could be biased here because I'm just as inexperienced at this game as he is. Really not comfortable lynching him today.
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On December 09 2015 07:20 NocturneMage wrote:Show nested quote +On December 09 2015 07:13 Trfel wrote:
Change of assumptions.
I'm going to assume that even if I don't know why, the most active/vocal posters are town and mostly wrong.
And the mafia are casually standing by the side, watching and sometimes supporting, but letting others lead.
I think that this points at Fecalfeast. Thoughts? The same thing applies to LS but he's just posting just to post and the case on Fidei was beyond awful. I need to re-read his filter last game, can I do that in 40 minutes plus all this other shit....
What makes the LS case any worse than disfos on dyh that was led off with a post made by rels?
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Shining, why are you reading trfel as town?
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On December 09 2015 07:22 NocturneMage wrote:
Disformation I feel at this time is more bad than mafia but I could be biased here because I'm just as inexperienced at this game as he is. Really not comfortable lynching him today.
Hes not this steadfast as town from my experience. The outlier vote on dyh when Hts got lynched is a tell to me. And in 2 games I've played with him, he's been a lot more waffly and I don't remember seeing a case like the one on dyh. I'm not under the belief that a town meta can change that quickly
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Because I can't make sense of him.
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On December 09 2015 07:20 NocturneMage wrote:Show nested quote +On December 09 2015 07:13 Trfel wrote:
Change of assumptions.
I'm going to assume that even if I don't know why, the most active/vocal posters are town and mostly wrong.
And the mafia are casually standing by the side, watching and sometimes supporting, but letting others lead.
I think that this points at Fecalfeast. Thoughts? The same thing applies to LS but he's just posting just to post and the case on Fidei was beyond awful. I need to re-read his filter last game, can I do that in 40 minutes plus all this other shit.... But LightningStrike is town for other reasons. At least, I think...
Wait, he actually made a case? 10 page filter and a case? No way he is mafia.
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On December 09 2015 07:28 Trfel wrote:Show nested quote +On December 09 2015 07:20 NocturneMage wrote:On December 09 2015 07:13 Trfel wrote:
Change of assumptions.
I'm going to assume that even if I don't know why, the most active/vocal posters are town and mostly wrong.
And the mafia are casually standing by the side, watching and sometimes supporting, but letting others lead.
I think that this points at Fecalfeast. Thoughts? The same thing applies to LS but he's just posting just to post and the case on Fidei was beyond awful. I need to re-read his filter last game, can I do that in 40 minutes plus all this other shit.... But LightningStrike is town for other reasons. At least, I think... Wait, he actually made a case? 10 page filter and a case? No way he is mafia.
That case was pretty much 80% my case on fidei86 from before when Fidei86 started to actually try and solve the game today.
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On December 09 2015 07:24 The Shining wrote:Show nested quote +On December 09 2015 07:20 NocturneMage wrote:On December 09 2015 07:13 Trfel wrote:
Change of assumptions.
I'm going to assume that even if I don't know why, the most active/vocal posters are town and mostly wrong.
And the mafia are casually standing by the side, watching and sometimes supporting, but letting others lead.
I think that this points at Fecalfeast. Thoughts? The same thing applies to LS but he's just posting just to post and the case on Fidei was beyond awful. I need to re-read his filter last game, can I do that in 40 minutes plus all this other shit.... What makes the LS case any worse than disfos on dyh that was led off with a post made by rels?
LS has 5x the number of games played as disformation. He has a track record of pulling the same shit as mafia as town.
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No one wants to just lynch Fecalfeast?
I feel that maybe he was townread too early for not doing anything, so he decided to continue to not do anything because it works.
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Vote Count
Trfel (2): NocturneMage, Fecalfeast
DoYouHas(2): Rels, disformation
LightningStrike (2): Fidei86, LightningStrike
Rels (1): Trfel
Not Voting (2): The Shining, DoYouHas
Currently Trfel is set to be lynched.
This Day ends at Tuesday, Dec 08 11:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00) aka 23:00 GMT (+00:00).
Lynch Voting is done in the voting thread (here). Do not PM me your vote.
Voting is mandatory. You may not abstain.
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Why do i always finish catching up when people are talking shit
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I'm at work now, it's deadline isn't it?
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