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On December 04 2015 09:43 Fecalfeast wrote:
Let's just wagon HTS since her going completely silent the moment her hubby shows up in the game makes me pause. I get that she's sick (get well soon) but trfel's weirdness has made me second guess how much I agree with his scumread on NM.
Easy. Low effort. Possible bus. Posts like that, FF. Especially now that you're back on thinking NM bussed, after second guessing Trfels scumread on NM.
On December 04 2015 09:53 Fecalfeast wrote:
Actually this trfel shit is really bugging me but how on earth does someone produce a million pages of filter, multiple cases with references and then throw it all away based on night kill wifom as scum?
Am I not giving trfel enough credit?
More discredit on Trfel. Low effort post, not really scumming him but discrediting
On December 04 2015 10:32 Fecalfeast wrote:I think fidei's passive 'switch to kush' wasn't actually trying to start shenanigans but the way he's playing it off now makes it suspicious. Like he says here (in the nested quote) that he didn't think people would follow him ontoi that shitty lynch. If it was shitty... Why was he there? Show nested quote +On December 04 2015 09:27 Fidei86 wrote:On December 04 2015 09:25 Fecalfeast wrote:On December 04 2015 09:24 Fidei86 wrote:
Hey, I was surprised as everyone else that you all followed me into that shitty lynch. But technically Palmar was the first mover, I was just the first one to urge everyone to switch. Why did I scowl so hard after reading this post? That was weird maybe because it sort of reads like I (a) say you all followed me into the lynch and (b) it actually wasn't my fault. I'm sort of trying to have my cake and eat it. You're right. I wasn't the first person to have the idea, but I probably was the one that caused it. I was wrong and I'm sorry. Then this pandering to me when I call out the post, without actually voicing any concern. Fidei doesn't ask me to explain he knows he looks bad because he's thinking about his image. He even apologizes to me when I literally said nothing of value about his post. The shining, I haven't read his filter tbh but he's got a decent tone in his recent posts that makes me think he's town but I skim a lot lol. HTS was really pushing hard that you(LS) were town and switched to kush pretty easily from what I recall following the EoD before I replaced in. Another filter I'll have to look at. OK so I only have strong feelings on fidei (scummy) right now I will check out HTS and shining
So now Fidei is scummy. No follow-up on the Trfel "weirdness" yet. Then he says he will check out me and HtS but he never did.
On December 04 2015 10:36 Fecalfeast wrote:Show nested quote +On December 04 2015 10:34 The Shining wrote:On December 04 2015 10:32 Fecalfeast wrote:I think fidei's passive 'switch to kush' wasn't actually trying to start shenanigans but the way he's playing it off now makes it suspicious. Like he says here (in the nested quote) that he didn't think people would follow him ontoi that shitty lynch. If it was shitty... Why was he there? On December 04 2015 09:27 Fidei86 wrote:On December 04 2015 09:25 Fecalfeast wrote:On December 04 2015 09:24 Fidei86 wrote:
Hey, I was surprised as everyone else that you all followed me into that shitty lynch. But technically Palmar was the first mover, I was just the first one to urge everyone to switch. Why did I scowl so hard after reading this post? That was weird maybe because it sort of reads like I (a) say you all followed me into the lynch and (b) it actually wasn't my fault. I'm sort of trying to have my cake and eat it. You're right. I wasn't the first person to have the idea, but I probably was the one that caused it. I was wrong and I'm sorry. Then this pandering to me when I call out the post, without actually voicing any concern. Fidei doesn't ask me to explain he knows he looks bad because he's thinking about his image. He even apologizes to me when I literally said nothing of value about his post. The shining, I haven't read his filter tbh but he's got a decent tone in his recent posts that makes me think he's town but I skim a lot lol. HTS was really pushing hard that you(LS) were town and switched to kush pretty easily from what I recall following the EoD before I replaced in. Another filter I'll have to look at. OK so I only have strong feelings on fidei (scummy) right now I will check out HTS and shining I think you had the same issues with Trfels d1, too. Did you definitely lean either way on him? I'm not sure if I ever put a read in thread but I had him as strong town until his abandonment of his NM/moose read. I'm currently weighing the town feels I got from him against the scummy feels I'm getting from him. It's kinda like he realizes that NM is going to be a much harder sell than MD because NM is playing. So was strong town, now ????????????????????
Now he's saying Trfel was a strong town until the weirdness stuff from him, now he's ??????
On December 05 2015 08:12 Fecalfeast wrote:
Ok am at work what's up boys I see hts still hasn't popped up? Guess she gave up?
Doesn't read mine or HtS filter. Decided HtS is scum giving up, no mention on me.
FML work is getting busy, I'll be back in a few. Chew on this for a bit
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so that's a town case or what? Have you played with me before?
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Alright, it's almost 1am here so I need to stop. Shining, I'll earmark a look on FF, tbf I have not really looked into him yet.
Trfel and LS are my strongest scumreads after and DYH had a reason to scum Trfel as well, so I'll look at that too.
I want to weigh DYH's d1 play against some of Rels' concerns being valid and the lack of push on Rels against what he's saying about Trfel. Someone bussed early, I remember FF's vote being early though, so that is a valid point.
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I think we disagree on a few reads, but I am on board with Rels/you being town, somewhat doubtful on Palmar, DYH looks okay to me independent of any WIFOM/association, there were a few things I didn't like about d1 play but there were aspects where I can see a town DYH be like welp, here it is, and his methods whilst different (looking at the dead people's reads and starting from there) don't seem off to me as scummy behaviour.
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Yeah LS, everyone else, like I said, don't even waste your time looking at anything she posted after 2230, it's WIFOM, I know it, just trust me, she's a confirmed weasel. She is trying to fuck with your mind.
In any case, I'll pick up tomorrow. Good night.
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On December 06 2015 09:52 Fecalfeast wrote:
so that's a town case or what? Have you played with me before?
No the difference between these posts and your town games is that your low effort and small posts still follow a train of thought and have conclusions. Here, you're just leaving things in the air after promising content and moving onto the next current topic.
And yes. I have. A bunch of times. You know that. I caught you as scum in Ippo, I made a game winning case in Student XVI that you sheeped. I don't always read you correctly but I dont always read you incorrectly, either. But the way I'm reading you now resonates more with you trying to emulate your town meta instead of actually just playing as town.
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On December 06 2015 10:06 NocturneMage wrote:
Yeah LS, everyone else, like I said, don't even waste your time looking at anything she posted after 2230, it's WIFOM, I know it, just trust me, she's a confirmed weasel. She is trying to fuck with your mind.
In any case, I'll pick up tomorrow. Good night. Half the Sky is trying to WIFOM LightningStrike and she's really good at it.
But.....On December 06 2015 09:24 NocturneMage wrote:
shining re: your post
well somewhere I'm wrong on Palmar/LS/Trfel/DYH as scumleans because there are only two scummers left.
I really honestly don't know where the LS townreads are coming from, when I afked around I think 1800 or whatever my time I tried to see him in a town lens but every interaction just keeps pointing me back to a VERY strong associative read between LS and HTS, like I'm sure it's LS/HTS/+1.
He didn't push HTS, it was questions/soft pushing at best and then he says that her end of cycle was questionable and I said then why didn't you push her on it? that should have been priority 1. and then he asks her a question after the fact.
then I afked, but I didn't read anything after that. Bold emphasis mine.
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I will say though that I misread what you said about bussing. When you mentioned NM, I thought you were saying he was bussing but I misunderstood. You were saying he had an accurate read on her and that therefore it was likely an early bus, just not from NM.
But with the part about disform, you're saying him being the outlier is too scummy to be scum then? I don't buy that argument anymore. That was the argument for both Breshke and Trfel last game and both turned out to be scum. And if disfo is scum, its his first scum game. I wouldn't expect him to play godly scum strats.
And for what NM said about disfo having HtS as null and voting his scumread in DYH over HtS, disfo in the games I've played with him has been very waffly and usually ends up following his TRs. Instead, he voted on DYH on his own and pushed him. Unflipped association is bad but FF did also try to get LS to hash out his DYH scumread, possibly trying to get him to move. And if disfo knew he had HtS as null at most and scummed DYH, he would know swapping to HtS to bus would make him look bad.
And disfo said he is consciously trying to change that waffling because it gets him scumread but he put out way more content last game and even though he waffled, he was towned quite a lot. I don't think his meta would change that quickly from one game to the next.
I still have filters to read and its night phase but that's where I'm at right now. I'm not sure how much more time I'll have to play before eon so I'm just putting my thoughts and reads out while I can
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On December 06 2015 10:13 Trfel wrote:Show nested quote +On December 06 2015 10:06 NocturneMage wrote:
Yeah LS, everyone else, like I said, don't even waste your time looking at anything she posted after 2230, it's WIFOM, I know it, just trust me, she's a confirmed weasel. She is trying to fuck with your mind.
In any case, I'll pick up tomorrow. Good night. Half the Sky is trying to WIFOM LightningStrike and she's really good at it. But..... Show nested quote +On December 06 2015 09:24 NocturneMage wrote:
shining re: your post
well somewhere I'm wrong on Palmar/LS/Trfel/DYH as scumleans because there are only two scummers left.
I really honestly don't know where the LS townreads are coming from, when I afked around I think 1800 or whatever my time I tried to see him in a town lens but every interaction just keeps pointing me back to a VERY strong associative read between LS and HTS, like I'm sure it's LS/HTS/+1.
He didn't push HTS, it was questions/soft pushing at best and then he says that her end of cycle was questionable and I said then why didn't you push her on it? that should have been priority 1. and then he asks her a question after the fact.
then I afked, but I didn't read anything after that. Bold emphasis mine.
This is actually pretty good but I'm not sure it makes NM scum here. You're basically saying he's scumming LS but then talking to him about HtS like he's town, right?
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On December 06 2015 10:13 Trfel wrote:Show nested quote +On December 06 2015 10:06 NocturneMage wrote:
Yeah LS, everyone else, like I said, don't even waste your time looking at anything she posted after 2230, it's WIFOM, I know it, just trust me, she's a confirmed weasel. She is trying to fuck with your mind.
In any case, I'll pick up tomorrow. Good night. Half the Sky is trying to WIFOM LightningStrike and she's really good at it. But..... Show nested quote +On December 06 2015 09:24 NocturneMage wrote:
shining re: your post
well somewhere I'm wrong on Palmar/LS/Trfel/DYH as scumleans because there are only two scummers left.
I really honestly don't know where the LS townreads are coming from, when I afked around I think 1800 or whatever my time I tried to see him in a town lens but every interaction just keeps pointing me back to a VERY strong associative read between LS and HTS, like I'm sure it's LS/HTS/+1.
He didn't push HTS, it was questions/soft pushing at best and then he says that her end of cycle was questionable and I said then why didn't you push her on it? that should have been priority 1. and then he asks her a question after the fact.
then I afked, but I didn't read anything after that. Bold emphasis mine.
Wait you saying I mafia with HTS too? Man this is going to be a 72 hour of hell for me.....
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Also this is something for the next day phase in case I get shot tonight. There are 3 possible setups since Boxer flipped. Boxer vet, boxer Cop, boxer Vig.
There was no Vig shot n1 so unless Vig shoots tonight I'm pretty confident in saying we don't have a Vig and the setup is one of Cop/Boxer and vet/boxer. Obviously neither should claim in the night phase but it might be a good idea if we have a vet to claim next day phase and narrow down the lynch pool, IF YOURE UNDER SUSPICION. The RB flipped so the vet can't be NKd next night phase and it will help with poe after the NK. Obviously if you're shot tonight, you should also instantly claim.
If it is the 1 shot Cop setup, then don't say a damn thing unless you get a red check. If you get a green check, you should also claim it ONLY if they or you are in danger of being lynched, as the only setup we could have with GF is Cop/Vig(not possible because boxer flipped) and vet/boxer, in which case there is no Cop. So the cop check has a 100% accuracy.
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On December 06 2015 10:24 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On December 06 2015 10:13 Trfel wrote:On December 06 2015 10:06 NocturneMage wrote:
Yeah LS, everyone else, like I said, don't even waste your time looking at anything she posted after 2230, it's WIFOM, I know it, just trust me, she's a confirmed weasel. She is trying to fuck with your mind.
In any case, I'll pick up tomorrow. Good night. Half the Sky is trying to WIFOM LightningStrike and she's really good at it. But..... On December 06 2015 09:24 NocturneMage wrote:
shining re: your post
well somewhere I'm wrong on Palmar/LS/Trfel/DYH as scumleans because there are only two scummers left.
I really honestly don't know where the LS townreads are coming from, when I afked around I think 1800 or whatever my time I tried to see him in a town lens but every interaction just keeps pointing me back to a VERY strong associative read between LS and HTS, like I'm sure it's LS/HTS/+1.
He didn't push HTS, it was questions/soft pushing at best and then he says that her end of cycle was questionable and I said then why didn't you push her on it? that should have been priority 1. and then he asks her a question after the fact.
then I afked, but I didn't read anything after that. Bold emphasis mine. Wait you saying I mafia with HTS too? Man this is going to be a 72 hour of hell for me.....
Tell me what you think of disfo and FF?
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On December 06 2015 10:19 The Shining wrote:Show nested quote +On December 06 2015 10:13 Trfel wrote:On December 06 2015 10:06 NocturneMage wrote:
Yeah LS, everyone else, like I said, don't even waste your time looking at anything she posted after 2230, it's WIFOM, I know it, just trust me, she's a confirmed weasel. She is trying to fuck with your mind.
In any case, I'll pick up tomorrow. Good night. Half the Sky is trying to WIFOM LightningStrike and she's really good at it. But..... On December 06 2015 09:24 NocturneMage wrote:
shining re: your post
well somewhere I'm wrong on Palmar/LS/Trfel/DYH as scumleans because there are only two scummers left.
I really honestly don't know where the LS townreads are coming from, when I afked around I think 1800 or whatever my time I tried to see him in a town lens but every interaction just keeps pointing me back to a VERY strong associative read between LS and HTS, like I'm sure it's LS/HTS/+1.
He didn't push HTS, it was questions/soft pushing at best and then he says that her end of cycle was questionable and I said then why didn't you push her on it? that should have been priority 1. and then he asks her a question after the fact.
then I afked, but I didn't read anything after that. Bold emphasis mine. This is actually pretty good but I'm not sure it makes NM scum here. You're basically saying he's scumming LS but then talking to him about HtS like he's town, right? This is one reason, I have probably at least 50 reasons of about this strength. Unfortunately, this isn't terribly strong, because talking to a scumread like they're town is something that town does too. However, this is the absolute biggest example of this that I have ever seen, because of the hard transition and he's talking about the same two people. Don't worry, I'll show why NocturneMage is scum at some point. And the tone, asking LightningStrike to trust him... even if talking to a scumread like they're town isn't the best tell, this can't be ignored.
Anyway, I looked through Half the Sky's filter. The way that Half the Sky switched to vote for LightningStrike makes it look like LightningStrike is town. Half the Sky put a lot of effort into trying to figure out LightningStrike's alignment, and eventually came to a null or a town lean or something like that (I forget, for the purposes of this it doesn't matter much). After all that, once the lynch started going to LightningStrike, she switched her vote really easily with the only reason presented being this:On December 03 2015 06:54 Half the Sky wrote:Show nested quote +On December 02 2015 07:32 LightningStrike wrote:Back from class after some relaxation. On December 02 2015 07:18 Rels wrote:
LS: if you had to name a team of 3 mafias, who would that be and why ? Idk yet this game is getting a little hard. I wish that Onegu and Kush actually do stuff so I can flesh them out in terms of alignment. Otherwise after considering that he did his thing on me as a trap(if I reading this correctly) Tfrel moved to null for now but still it was kind of a weird thing to do for him. Idk why people having trouble with DYS? I see him more of a newbie player than a veteran player honestly so(shrugs). So nothing yet for a team. Show nested quote +On December 03 2015 03:16 LightningStrike wrote:On December 03 2015 03:13 Trfel wrote:On December 03 2015 03:06 LightningStrike wrote:On December 03 2015 03:04 Trfel wrote:On December 03 2015 03:01 LightningStrike wrote:On December 03 2015 02:58 Trfel wrote:On December 02 2015 23:07 Half the Sky wrote:
Alright, I just woke up, and I am not feeling any better. I'm headed to a doctor's appointment in an hour, but I am hoping to get back in thread barring anything serious.
I fully realise I have a shittonne to catch up on - if anyone has any questions for me, or anything specific they want me to weigh on, please prompt me and I'll do so when I return. First of all, really sorry that you aren't feeling well. Hope you can recover soon. Why did you vote for DoYouHas instead of kushm4sta? Why didn't you include LightningStrike in the lynch list? Now that he's (at least mostly, I think?) answered your questions, what do you think about him? Why did your read on me (Trfel) change? read her filter if you want to see her progression on me  + Show Spoiler + And where did you get that conclusion from? On December 02 2015 04:38 Half the Sky wrote:On December 02 2015 04:24 LightningStrike wrote:Okay I here now and Tfrel I did answer HTS just not directly quoted. On December 02 2015 04:15 Half the Sky wrote:
Looking at 346/349 -
LS, I'm not referring to meta. Let's make sure I'm not misunderstanding you here.
I'm not talking about Palmar's tone in general. I'm talking about his case. If you read the context differently, then tell me how you interpreted that.
You are saying that he's town because his tone is serious and from 349 it's based on meta. Okay fine, but regardless of meta, why would Palmar's case NOT be serious? What I'm trying to say here is that you are townreading him for a poor reason. I didn't say it wasn't serious? Anyways the way he argued Shining like I said had a serious tone plus like said he did a very similar thing to me in Metal Mini when I was fighting him and felt frustrated with him. It took me a bit of arguing to get him to townread me in that game because I was still a newbie lol.... So it a little both but more towards personal experience with him. Argh, no. I am saying that you said his tone is serious. In any case, you want to say you are giving a personal read towards him. Alright, I still think this is a bad read because like I said before Palmar really can't be done off one read, but now that I've fleshed it out I don't think you are mafia for this. Still need to read the rest of your filter in conjunction with Trfel/Damdred when I return though. Yeah.... "I don't think you are mafia for this" means that Half the Sky is not scum reading you for one specific thing in your filter. As in, she could be scum reading you for the entire rest of your filter. And that's not a townread on that one thing either. Does anyone know if LightningStrike is generally this self-conscious as town with regards to other people's townreads on him? To make a big jump like this and try to assume everything is a townread? Because this is making me doubt my earlier town lean on him. It's implied I thought O_o(At least how I read it and I hope she gets better soon honestly) Also for note you played a shit ton of games with me when I'm town and I surprised you kinda forgot how I play  This is the question I want to ask folks - why is he null reading Trfel based on the bolded? Okay, so I went back and found her last LightningStrike read before this.Half the Sky wrote:The above is correct. This also partially helps answer Trfel's question to me - LS was not in my lynch list (and relative to the rest of the thread) because D1, similar to SOTW, if there's something that is not clicking I have to flesh his reads out. He was a scumlean based on the stuff he said, I hashed out to make sure I was understanding LS, and it was back to null pending the interactions with other people in the thread. There was a part where he mentioned Trfel casing Damdred (and I still have to go back and look at that, Christ) which would give some indication as to Trfel/Damdred/LS alignments to some extent. Obviously need to catch up on the rest of his filter. Not lynching him until I read and feel otherwise. Half the Sky's only reason presented to scumread LightningStrike after this was extremely flawed. Even despite this, the change on the LightningStrike read is really large for something that small (if she thought it was large enough to change this read, she would have been more suspicious of it when asking the question).
Furthermore, Half the Sky's play around End of Day doesn't have much direction. I don't feel like she really cared if LightningStrike or kushm4sta were lynched (or she would have had more direction to her play, or actually pushed kushm4sta once finally deciding that she didn't want to lynch LightningStrike, 8 minutes before the deadline).
This association suggests really, really strongly that Half the Sky is town, contrary to what NocturneMage has stated about the association.
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On December 06 2015 10:13 Trfel wrote:Show nested quote +On December 06 2015 10:06 NocturneMage wrote:
Yeah LS, everyone else, like I said, don't even waste your time looking at anything she posted after 2230, it's WIFOM, I know it, just trust me, she's a confirmed weasel. She is trying to fuck with your mind.
In any case, I'll pick up tomorrow. Good night. Half the Sky is trying to WIFOM LightningStrike and she's really good at it. But..... Show nested quote +On December 06 2015 09:24 NocturneMage wrote:
shining re: your post
well somewhere I'm wrong on Palmar/LS/Trfel/DYH as scumleans because there are only two scummers left.
I really honestly don't know where the LS townreads are coming from, when I afked around I think 1800 or whatever my time I tried to see him in a town lens but every interaction just keeps pointing me back to a VERY strong associative read between LS and HTS, like I'm sure it's LS/HTS/+1.
He didn't push HTS, it was questions/soft pushing at best and then he says that her end of cycle was questionable and I said then why didn't you push her on it? that should have been priority 1. and then he asks her a question after the fact.
then I afked, but I didn't read anything after that. Bold emphasis mine.
no
that wifom can be interpreted in different ways
(1) she could be talkign to a scum buddy - they both are wifoming
(2) she could be trying to wifom town ls
(3) other people reading that could be wifomed by what hts is saying to town/scum ls.
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I keep getting drawn back to this game, it is too addictive.
also last question, what on earth is a mindmeld?
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@LightningStrike, I think you're town.
On December 06 2015 10:29 The Shining wrote:
Also this is something for the next day phase in case I get shot tonight. There are 3 possible setups since Boxer flipped. Boxer vet, boxer Cop, boxer Vig.
There was no Vig shot n1 so unless Vig shoots tonight I'm pretty confident in saying we don't have a Vig and the setup is one of Cop/Boxer and vet/boxer. Obviously neither should claim in the night phase but it might be a good idea if we have a vet to claim next day phase and narrow down the lynch pool, IF YOURE UNDER SUSPICION. The RB flipped so the vet can't be NKd next night phase and it will help with poe after the NK. Obviously if you're shot tonight, you should also instantly claim.
If it is the 1 shot Cop setup, then don't say a damn thing unless you get a red check. If you get a green check, you should also claim it ONLY if they or you are in danger of being lynched, as the only setup we could have with GF is Cop/Vig(not possible because boxer flipped) and vet/boxer, in which case there is no Cop. So the cop check has a 100% accuracy. Okay, I'm breaking my own hard rule
I don't think that the veteran should claim unless they're "reasonably" suspected. "Reasonably" defined at the end of this post.
I actually think that if it's a 1-shot cop with a green check, they should claim it at the start of the next day (assuming both are alive). That's huge, and assuming that the cop was good with their check, the check should be on a "reasonably" suspected person.
"Reasonably" meaning as determined by the power role themself. Basically, if you are the power role, you should make our own decision because you're the only one who knows the situation exactly. You know how scumread you are, you can determine if the value of your claim being hidden is worth however much suspicion/time people spend trying to figure out your alignment. If you're the cop with a check, you know exactly how useful the check is.
Anyway, I don't care to argue this, but let the power roles play their own role ^^
On December 06 2015 10:35 NocturneMage wrote:
I keep getting drawn back to this game, it is too addictive.
also last question, what on earth is a mindmeld? It's when two people are thinking really similarly to each other, presumably either over several similar thoughts or both thinking the same thing at the same time. Hopefully that's close enough.
On December 06 2015 10:34 NocturneMage wrote:Show nested quote +On December 06 2015 10:13 Trfel wrote:On December 06 2015 10:06 NocturneMage wrote:
Yeah LS, everyone else, like I said, don't even waste your time looking at anything she posted after 2230, it's WIFOM, I know it, just trust me, she's a confirmed weasel. She is trying to fuck with your mind.
In any case, I'll pick up tomorrow. Good night. Half the Sky is trying to WIFOM LightningStrike and she's really good at it. But..... On December 06 2015 09:24 NocturneMage wrote:
shining re: your post
well somewhere I'm wrong on Palmar/LS/Trfel/DYH as scumleans because there are only two scummers left.
I really honestly don't know where the LS townreads are coming from, when I afked around I think 1800 or whatever my time I tried to see him in a town lens but every interaction just keeps pointing me back to a VERY strong associative read between LS and HTS, like I'm sure it's LS/HTS/+1.
He didn't push HTS, it was questions/soft pushing at best and then he says that her end of cycle was questionable and I said then why didn't you push her on it? that should have been priority 1. and then he asks her a question after the fact.
then I afked, but I didn't read anything after that. Bold emphasis mine. no that wifom can be interpreted in different ways (1) she could be talkign to a scum buddy - they both are wifoming (2) she could be trying to wifom town ls (3) other people reading that could be wifomed by what hts is saying to town/scum ls. I don't understand this explanation, because you're giving advice to LightningStrike in that post? Are you scumreading LightningStrike, or not?
Also, NocturneMage, any comments on the association with Half the Sky that I mentioned?
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On December 06 2015 10:30 The Shining wrote:Show nested quote +On December 06 2015 10:24 LightningStrike wrote:On December 06 2015 10:13 Trfel wrote:On December 06 2015 10:06 NocturneMage wrote:
Yeah LS, everyone else, like I said, don't even waste your time looking at anything she posted after 2230, it's WIFOM, I know it, just trust me, she's a confirmed weasel. She is trying to fuck with your mind.
In any case, I'll pick up tomorrow. Good night. Half the Sky is trying to WIFOM LightningStrike and she's really good at it. But..... On December 06 2015 09:24 NocturneMage wrote:
shining re: your post
well somewhere I'm wrong on Palmar/LS/Trfel/DYH as scumleans because there are only two scummers left.
I really honestly don't know where the LS townreads are coming from, when I afked around I think 1800 or whatever my time I tried to see him in a town lens but every interaction just keeps pointing me back to a VERY strong associative read between LS and HTS, like I'm sure it's LS/HTS/+1.
He didn't push HTS, it was questions/soft pushing at best and then he says that her end of cycle was questionable and I said then why didn't you push her on it? that should have been priority 1. and then he asks her a question after the fact.
then I afked, but I didn't read anything after that. Bold emphasis mine. Wait you saying I mafia with HTS too? Man this is going to be a 72 hour of hell for me..... Tell me what you think of disfo and FF?
Sigh I already gave it and it haven't changed for both of them. Both town. I just want FF to do more work now that we got some stuff to work with plus I don't want him to be totally lazy.
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and trfel we can agree to disagree here. hts is going to take out the person scumreading her - that was kush. she was not going to sit on LS regardless because if LS is town, there was an expectation that she should have known LS was town based on meta (if he is town) she looks really bad, and if LS is mafia which he likely is, she needed to get off him and found a meta reason to get off him and once she saw that every one was rushing to kush, she was definitely going to get rid of kush, I guarantee you the same thing would have happened had dyh gotten shennanied, or she would have started that shennanie herself. hts was poor because of agenda.
this is meta, I realise you cannot trust it or may be hesistant to trust it. had she not had a real read on either, she would have gone for the policy lynch, the whole thing points to trying to avoid culpability (yes now I know that is a real word) and I was trying to make that argument all of d2 as I was pushing her.
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On December 06 2015 10:41 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On December 06 2015 10:30 The Shining wrote:On December 06 2015 10:24 LightningStrike wrote:On December 06 2015 10:13 Trfel wrote:On December 06 2015 10:06 NocturneMage wrote:
Yeah LS, everyone else, like I said, don't even waste your time looking at anything she posted after 2230, it's WIFOM, I know it, just trust me, she's a confirmed weasel. She is trying to fuck with your mind.
In any case, I'll pick up tomorrow. Good night. Half the Sky is trying to WIFOM LightningStrike and she's really good at it. But..... On December 06 2015 09:24 NocturneMage wrote:
shining re: your post
well somewhere I'm wrong on Palmar/LS/Trfel/DYH as scumleans because there are only two scummers left.
I really honestly don't know where the LS townreads are coming from, when I afked around I think 1800 or whatever my time I tried to see him in a town lens but every interaction just keeps pointing me back to a VERY strong associative read between LS and HTS, like I'm sure it's LS/HTS/+1.
He didn't push HTS, it was questions/soft pushing at best and then he says that her end of cycle was questionable and I said then why didn't you push her on it? that should have been priority 1. and then he asks her a question after the fact.
then I afked, but I didn't read anything after that. Bold emphasis mine. Wait you saying I mafia with HTS too? Man this is going to be a 72 hour of hell for me..... Tell me what you think of disfo and FF? Sigh I already gave it and it haven't changed for both of them. Both town. I just want FF to do more work now that we got some stuff to work with plus I don't want him to be totally lazy.
I know, I was just wondering if anything changed after the HtS flip and the following disfo and FF reaction posts, or lack thereof and if you looked into their interactions/reads with HtS.
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I was saying that as a general statement LS and everyone. also I have too many scumreads so I need to resolve something somewhere.
and the second question, yes I am, but I did not read anything he may have posted that closely after 1800, and like everyone else I do keep evaluating and re-evaluating.
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