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The Shining
Profile Joined December 2014
United States2406 Posts
December 06 2015 00:08 GMT
#1461
On December 06 2015 09:03 NocturneMage wrote:
on mobile

as if there were ever any doubt. honestly anything HTS did day 2 is basically WIFOM, so whatever drivel she had the last 30 minutes really doesn't mean dick all.

Well except her update outside the game of course. <3

LS, of course she would post Talisker like that. she loves Talisker. she will drink that and/or Glenfiddich when she rolls mafia.

I don't know what the baby seal is for though.

anyways, my personal motivation in finding the last two mafia though is to make sure they don't keep drinking whisky via mislynches, because she would have asked them to do that. why? because it's HTS.

I have too many scumleans/reads so I know I have a bit to sort out when I return. probably going to proceed in terms of what teams make sense with hts and some additional filter checks.


Baby seal is this site's way of claiming scum, for some reason that I never learned lol. Go read my list post and tell me what you think. I'll Re-read HtS filter and interactions as well at some point tonight to see what makes most sense.
Always and Never are two words you should always remember never to say.
NocturneMage
Profile Joined July 2015
United Kingdom1965 Posts
December 06 2015 00:08 GMT
#1462
like if people want to lynch me because they think I bussed her, go right ahead, just let me solve the game between now and Monday, we have what, three mislynches left?
Vlad for life. SKT supporter. I policy lynch all dota players, end of.
NocturneMage
Profile Joined July 2015
United Kingdom1965 Posts
December 06 2015 00:09 GMT
#1463
no we have two mislynches left.
Vlad for life. SKT supporter. I policy lynch all dota players, end of.
Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
December 06 2015 00:10 GMT
#1464
What posts are taking the easy way out btw shining? I'm aware that I told LS that I'd do stuff and then did not but when did I deliver easy low effort content relative to what "lazy uncaring town FF" would do?


On December 06 2015 09:02 The Shining wrote:
I don't want screenshots. Give me a reaction instead? There's 1 or 2 scum bussing HtS. Do you have any thoughts? Anyone who You think voted HtS too easily? Thoughts on disfo?

re: scum busing hts
yep, scum bused hts. NM had her number and she would know that from the get go, especially with her being sick. Which leads into disform, the WIFOM here is strong but I don't think scum would put themselves out there like a sore thumb like that.

re: people voting hts too easily
everyone? DYH at least had a case but most people referenced NM when they voted from what I remember
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NocturneMage
Profile Joined July 2015
United Kingdom1965 Posts
December 06 2015 00:10 GMT
#1465
shit hold on....I was coached to write this out.

10:3 Kush ml
9:3 Damdred nk
9:2 HTS lynch
8:2 nk
7:2 ml
6:2 nk
5:2 ml
4:2 nk
3:2 lylo

3 mislynches, my mistake.
Vlad for life. SKT supporter. I policy lynch all dota players, end of.
NocturneMage
Profile Joined July 2015
United Kingdom1965 Posts
December 06 2015 00:11 GMT
#1466
ebwop - coached in past town/mafia games
Vlad for life. SKT supporter. I policy lynch all dota players, end of.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
December 06 2015 00:12 GMT
#1467
Yes! 1 down, 2 to go!

On December 06 2015 08:37 The Shining wrote:
No shock there. Glad to hear you're at least feeling better, HtS.

I have thoughts. But I need to read some stuff before I put all of them out there.

I think DYH is super towny. Especially those last few posts. Rehashing Damdreds reads and then comparing them to kush showed a concerted effort to figure things out. That and upon rereading Damdred, he didn't misrepresent those reads, nor make up scumreads.

Trfel is strong town and I'm okay with that. I'm thinking he's about as wrong on NM bussing as he was on Damdred but that's another thing I need to re-read.

I'm dropping my suspicion on Fidei. The more I read him, the more town he feels. And maybe we do just have a mindmeld going, I need to get over the paranoia from that.

Palmar is middle ground but a filter check is needed there, too. At least one scum obviously bussed but his recent posting, although not his strongest work this game, felt like town pressed for time.

NM feels pretty locked in town at this point. He drove the hts lynch home off of a good metaread but he's also questioning and fleshing out his other reads.

LS recent responses feel more like LS. Very innocent, carefree, does rely heavily on Meta but I like his interaction with DYH, too.

POE leaves me with the really bad outlier vote in disfo(this is another one whose filter and other games I have to revisit). But he's not lynching scum d2, pushing dyh hard all day and he himself calls himself waffleboy. That stubbornness and refusal to get off of DYH in the hopes he could shift the lynch off of HtS has me thinking he gave himself away. Me to come soon.

Also FF. He's not lazy uncaring town FF. From the moment he entered the game, he's been making an effort to try and look productive, then uses Fallout to bail out before he can get asked too much. He keeps asking others to point him in a direction instead of scum hunting for himself. And he promises a lot of content but he's only delivering easy, low effort content.

I think that's our last 2 lynches to win the game going forward. Discuss?


I am trying to be less waffly this game on purpose since I always get scum read for that a bunch in my town games. Seems that doesn't work either...
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
December 06 2015 00:13 GMT
#1468
On December 06 2015 09:03 NocturneMage wrote:
on mobile

as if there were ever any doubt. honestly anything HTS did day 2 is basically WIFOM, so whatever drivel she had the last 30 minutes really doesn't mean dick all.

Well except her update outside the game of course. <3

LS, of course she would post Talisker like that. she loves Talisker. she will drink that and/or Glenfiddich when she rolls mafia.

I don't know what the baby seal is for though.

anyways, my personal motivation in finding the last two mafia though is to make sure they don't keep drinking whisky via mislynches, because she would have asked them to do that. why? because it's HTS.

I have too many scumleans/reads so I know I have a bit to sort out when I return. probably going to proceed in terms of what teams make sense with hts and some additional filter checks.

Baby Seals is a confession of being mafia. It's a tradition on TL Mafia forums to post that if you got caught or conceding as mafia. Also yes I know she loves to drink Talisker and Glenfiddich as mafia as she told me and others.
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
NocturneMage
Profile Joined July 2015
United Kingdom1965 Posts
December 06 2015 00:13 GMT
#1469
disformation wasn't even sure on hts. I think he had a null read on her at best and then looked into my case on her. it makes sense for him to vote a scum read over a null read. even if hts dropped for him, you can argue he could try to find more information with that second wagon. I learnt in newbie 17 or shit I forget which game but if you want to start a second wagon on scum you want to see if they are trying to protect a power role.

now this could be moot since daniele was sick all week. but it's just a preliminary thought.
Vlad for life. SKT supporter. I policy lynch all dota players, end of.
NocturneMage
Profile Joined July 2015
United Kingdom1965 Posts
December 06 2015 00:14 GMT
#1470
On December 06 2015 09:13 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 06 2015 09:03 NocturneMage wrote:
on mobile

as if there were ever any doubt. honestly anything HTS did day 2 is basically WIFOM, so whatever drivel she had the last 30 minutes really doesn't mean dick all.

Well except her update outside the game of course. <3

LS, of course she would post Talisker like that. she loves Talisker. she will drink that and/or Glenfiddich when she rolls mafia.

I don't know what the baby seal is for though.

anyways, my personal motivation in finding the last two mafia though is to make sure they don't keep drinking whisky via mislynches, because she would have asked them to do that. why? because it's HTS.

I have too many scumleans/reads so I know I have a bit to sort out when I return. probably going to proceed in terms of what teams make sense with hts and some additional filter checks.

Baby Seals is a confession of being mafia. It's a tradition on TL Mafia forums to post that if you got caught or conceding as mafia. Also yes I know she loves to drink Talisker and Glenfiddich as mafia as she told me and others.


oh shit really? I thought it was a metaphor, I didn't realise that scum could actually POST baby seals to claim mafia. The Talisker was more obvious to me.

anyways back on topic....
Vlad for life. SKT supporter. I policy lynch all dota players, end of.
The Shining
Profile Joined December 2014
United States2406 Posts
December 06 2015 00:15 GMT
#1471
On December 06 2015 09:06 NocturneMage wrote:
well Shining, define "too easily" there's people that could have planned it from the off and there's people in a normal bus - I learnt this in newbie 13 because Damdred caught me for it, that bus her at the very end, and don't try and fight it. they kind of see how thread sentiment goes and then just say "ah fuck it" but then again it's weekend and activity seemed sort of low this weekend.

I have to look into the likeliness of whoever the fuck could have planned it - the timing of my replacement (2300) and the first post against her do look suspect but when I look at DYH filter WITHOUT the associative read, he doesn't really look that bad, so I really don't know, he pulled off a great bus then though if he is mafia.


Pretty much little to no discussion. Or going from town to "sheeping NM". Lots of reading to be done. I remember FF explaining more than once his reasoning to sheep NM. Over explanation?

Then there's that lone disfo vote...hm.

Also Trfel, what makes NM more likely scum than town now that HtS flipped? Her vote was spooky spooky wifom but scum has voted me before in games that I was town but under suspicion.
Always and Never are two words you should always remember never to say.
NocturneMage
Profile Joined July 2015
United Kingdom1965 Posts
December 06 2015 00:18 GMT
#1472
trfel - I looked at original op

town are allowed to no lynch.

but this I don't understand

what is the purpose of no lynching? we have three mislynches left?

4th game on tl here, so is there some strategy aspect I am missing????
Vlad for life. SKT supporter. I policy lynch all dota players, end of.
NocturneMage
Profile Joined July 2015
United Kingdom1965 Posts
December 06 2015 00:19 GMT
#1473
don't you no lynch mainly in mylo? like in a 5:3 situation?

why would you no lynch now?
Vlad for life. SKT supporter. I policy lynch all dota players, end of.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
December 06 2015 00:19 GMT
#1474
Well the idea is to use the extra time to gather information / make reads and force the mafia to reveal information by shooting ppl, while denying them misslynches.
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
December 06 2015 00:22 GMT
#1475
On December 06 2015 09:15 The Shining wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 06 2015 09:06 NocturneMage wrote:
well Shining, define "too easily" there's people that could have planned it from the off and there's people in a normal bus - I learnt this in newbie 13 because Damdred caught me for it, that bus her at the very end, and don't try and fight it. they kind of see how thread sentiment goes and then just say "ah fuck it" but then again it's weekend and activity seemed sort of low this weekend.

I have to look into the likeliness of whoever the fuck could have planned it - the timing of my replacement (2300) and the first post against her do look suspect but when I look at DYH filter WITHOUT the associative read, he doesn't really look that bad, so I really don't know, he pulled off a great bus then though if he is mafia.


Pretty much little to no discussion. Or going from town to "sheeping NM". Lots of reading to be done. I remember FF explaining more than once his reasoning to sheep NM. Over explanation?

Then there's that lone disfo vote...hm.

Also Trfel, what makes NM more likely scum than town now that HtS flipped? Her vote was spooky spooky wifom but scum has voted me before in games that I was town but under suspicion.
There's not much that's different now. I think that Half the Sky's play suggests that NocturneMage is mafia, however that was something I probably shouldn't have said because it's not really provable. You can draw your own conclusion if you want, or just ignore it.

LightningStrike, sorry I didn't answer your question earlier, but I had answered it a few posts previously and I was saving my 4k post for the very special reason of calling NocturneMage mafia. I was already playing with Half the Sky assumed as mafia, so my reads aren't affected by the flip in itself, it's the way that Half the Sky played that might have an affect on my reads, but that's probably an argument I will need to drop.
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
December 06 2015 00:22 GMT
#1476
On December 06 2015 09:19 disformation wrote:
Well the idea is to use the extra time to gather information / make reads and force the mafia to reveal information by shooting ppl, while denying them misslynches.

+1
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
NocturneMage
Profile Joined July 2015
United Kingdom1965 Posts
December 06 2015 00:24 GMT
#1477
shining re: your post

well somewhere I'm wrong on Palmar/LS/Trfel/DYH as scumleans because there are only two scummers left.

I really honestly don't know where the LS townreads are coming from, when I afked around I think 1800 or whatever my time I tried to see him in a town lens but every interaction just keeps pointing me back to a VERY strong associative read between LS and HTS, like I'm sure it's LS/HTS/+1.

He didn't push HTS, it was questions/soft pushing at best and then he says that her end of cycle was questionable and I said then why didn't you push her on it? that should have been priority 1. and then he asks her a question after the fact.

then I afked, but I didn't read anything after that.
Vlad for life. SKT supporter. I policy lynch all dota players, end of.
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
December 06 2015 00:24 GMT
#1478
On December 06 2015 09:22 Trfel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 06 2015 09:15 The Shining wrote:
On December 06 2015 09:06 NocturneMage wrote:
well Shining, define "too easily" there's people that could have planned it from the off and there's people in a normal bus - I learnt this in newbie 13 because Damdred caught me for it, that bus her at the very end, and don't try and fight it. they kind of see how thread sentiment goes and then just say "ah fuck it" but then again it's weekend and activity seemed sort of low this weekend.

I have to look into the likeliness of whoever the fuck could have planned it - the timing of my replacement (2300) and the first post against her do look suspect but when I look at DYH filter WITHOUT the associative read, he doesn't really look that bad, so I really don't know, he pulled off a great bus then though if he is mafia.


Pretty much little to no discussion. Or going from town to "sheeping NM". Lots of reading to be done. I remember FF explaining more than once his reasoning to sheep NM. Over explanation?

Then there's that lone disfo vote...hm.

Also Trfel, what makes NM more likely scum than town now that HtS flipped? Her vote was spooky spooky wifom but scum has voted me before in games that I was town but under suspicion.
There's not much that's different now. I think that Half the Sky's play suggests that NocturneMage is mafia, however that was something I probably shouldn't have said because it's not really provable. You can draw your own conclusion if you want, or just ignore it.

LightningStrike, sorry I didn't answer your question earlier, but I had answered it a few posts previously and I was saving my 4k post for the very special reason of calling NocturneMage mafia. I was already playing with Half the Sky assumed as mafia, so my reads aren't affected by the flip in itself, it's the way that Half the Sky played that might have an affect on my reads, but that's probably an argument I will need to drop.

you could of used your 4k posts by making a blog post or posting the mafia forums outside of this game lol.....
Anyways fair enough.
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
December 06 2015 00:26 GMT
#1479
On December 06 2015 09:18 NocturneMage wrote:
trfel - I looked at original op

town are allowed to no lynch.

but this I don't understand

what is the purpose of no lynching? we have three mislynches left?

4th game on tl here, so is there some strategy aspect I am missing????
First, I counted the remaining mislynches incorrectly. I thought that we had two mislynches to MYLO, at which point no lynching would be good. Second, I didn't mean to no lynch first.
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
December 06 2015 00:26 GMT
#1480
On December 06 2015 09:24 NocturneMage wrote:
shining re: your post

well somewhere I'm wrong on Palmar/LS/Trfel/DYH as scumleans because there are only two scummers left.

I really honestly don't know where the LS townreads are coming from, when I afked around I think 1800 or whatever my time I tried to see him in a town lens but every interaction just keeps pointing me back to a VERY strong associative read between LS and HTS, like I'm sure it's LS/HTS/+1.

He didn't push HTS, it was questions/soft pushing at best and then he says that her end of cycle was questionable and I said then why didn't you push her on it? that should have been priority 1. and then he asks her a question after the fact.

then I afked, but I didn't read anything after that.

She did gave me a answer but the answer might have some WIFOM in it. And no I not scum nor a baby seal but I am a Town Puppy(if anyone remembers that nickname)
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