EPTHe was hard defending her for checking LS meta end of first cycle. I saw through that based on meta but I can see if someone were to say, she's probably town for that by mistake as a townie.
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He was hard defending her for checking LS meta end of first cycle. I saw through that based on meta but I can see if someone were to say, she's probably town for that by mistake as a townie. | ||
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On December 12 2015 02:35 Fidei86 wrote: I meant this cycle. Or is the vote tally not up to date? It is up to date, however it does NOT account for my voting disformation and then unvoting him. That's why I felt your point on DYH "piling on" was a good one. I was already on him. Check the voting thread. | ||
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On December 12 2015 02:35 Fidei86 wrote: I meant this cycle. Or is the vote tally not up to date? On December 10 2015 08:09 NocturneMage wrote: ##vote disformation On December 10 2015 13:19 DoYouHas wrote: ##Vote: Disformation On December 11 2015 10:45 NocturneMage wrote: ##unvote I'm not going insane, am I? I'm sober now, I was drunk last night phase, but.... | ||
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On December 01 2015 18:41 Rels wrote: 1 - this is sooooo non commital. 2 - we're right on the period Shining has no internet. So I have no idea what additionnal info you will have when he AFK for 24 hours. Page 1 of filter Is Rels trying to make something out of nothing? Trfel is already saying that lynching the Shining is a "very bad idea RIGHT NOW" I want to say second question from Rels is asking this for the sake of asking. Trfel has already commented on what has already been doing on Shining regardless of lack of internet, so that content should be up and fair game to evaluate. I don't think this statement even needed to be made honestly, even Trfel said "more time" regardless of what the reason was for, he wasn't all on it either. Mafia indicative. Moving on. | ||
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On December 01 2015 18:50 Rels wrote: I thought I read "I kind of want to lynch The Shining" somewhere in that post. This part about Shining reads to me as "I'm OK lynching Shining but I'll need someone to convince me." meeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh I didn't read that as that way at all. Trfel is already making conclusions on what is already out there. "I feel that The Shining's alignment will become very clear with a bit more time." tells me there will be enough information for trfel to make a better conclusion. | ||
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On December 01 2015 19:19 Rels wrote: fidei you're saying HTS is not really pushing the people she thinks are scummy right ? On December 01 2015 19:43 Rels wrote: I reread her posts. Can you give me some examples ? On December 01 2015 22:16 Rels wrote: I don't agree with #219's analysis. I relate to her because I also don't know if what Palmar brings on Shining is really incriminating. I don't agree with Trfel's back and forth being scum indicative. She asked a question, got told by Trfel she didn't understand correctly his meaning, and backed off. I don't understand the Shining / Palmar difference. Why is HTS asking Shining his reads and not Palmar is scum indicative ? I agree with HTS' post lacking something though. She comes into the thread with two scumleans; interacts with the two of them; then leaves without a list or anything. Possible distancing from HTS? I can see this coming from both alignments. It appears that in context, HTS did correct Fidei on his perspective, which he acknolwedged, so I don't know... | ||
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Distancing is a common tactic to avoid pairing with other members of your Faction. It is most commonly done by Anti-Town factions such as Mafia, but can also be used by Masons to avoid being night-killed as a confirmed pro-town player, if their Mason buddy has been lynched. It involves putting oneself at odds with one's partner(s), either by disagreement over a third party, or by direct conflict against each other. The effectivness of this technique is often based on timing and the quality of performance from the players distancing themselves from each other. At times, such heavy distancing is used that it leads to one of the distancers being lynched. This is a common tactic among Scum known as Bussing. From mafia scum wiki. Alright, I had the right definition in mind. I think I need to see more instances of that to be more sure of distancing though. Hmmmm. | ||
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On December 02 2015 01:32 Rels wrote: Yep I'm suspicious of too many people. I would lynch Damdred or DYH right now; fidei is weird; HTS' post on LS makes a lot of sense. Onegu and kush are useless. There was a decent sequence between him and Damdred that seemed okay-ish or at least fleshed out. It seemed based on a lot of meta but I don't think that's mafia indicative for Rels. I think this becomes more mafia indicative depending on how his end of cycle was. I could agree with the DYH vote the time it was made, policy vote announcements are not really alignment indicative. He's got two lynches here, a scumlean in Fidei resumably. Not thinking this is mafia indicative. On December 02 2015 18:08 Rels wrote: OK I have the weirdest reason to continue voting DYH. I am not inspired by the few posts he made while I was sleeping. Could come from either alignement; plus I didn't like the "I do nothing for 5 hours, say I filter dove 4 people and I got no result". I looked the database entry for him: [W] Newbie Mini Mafia III Town Detective Survived [W] Surprisingly Normal Mini Mafia VII Town Vanilla Lynched Day 2 [W] Newbie Mini Mafia IV Town Vanilla Endgamed [N] A Game of Thrones Mafia Town Vanilla Killed Night 1 [M][N] The Sum of All Fears Mafia Mafia Vanilla Survived [N] TL Mafia LIV Town Vanilla Killed Night 2 [M][N] Dwarf Fortress Mini Mafia Mafia Vanilla Survived [M][T] Paranoia Mafia Town Vigilante Killed Night 2 [M][T] Witchcraft Mini Mafia Mafia Godfather Lynched Day 2 [N] The Game Town Vanilla Endgamed Day 5 Since his second game, he was never lynched as town; but often killed. And he was lynched in his most recent scum game. His filter this game is not a "never lynch this guy" filter; and it's sure not a "this guy will probably be NK" filter. Don't think this post is a good one at all to scumread DYH now that I think of it. Whart are the compositions of the towns? Was he vigged? I'm not looking at through those games, but these conclusions don't address those circumstances. Circumstantial at best. If he's making an argument that DYH is trying to break meta (this is possible) he has to weight that against his current gameplay. I've been 50/50 on DYH gameplay at worst. | ||
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On December 09 2015 07:57 disformation wrote: ##unvote ##vote Fecalfeast On December 09 2015 07:59 Rels wrote: ##Unvote ##Vote Trfel Could Rels really say he thought as I did to yolo FF and then vote Trfel? Mafia probably would have voted FF first I think if Shining's theory is true? | ||
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On December 03 2015 20:40 Rels wrote: To the potential cop / vig, since we cannot have both: I would use my ability on this group: DYH, NM, Palmar. I wouldn't vig Damdred, but I would cop check him since he cannot be GF if a cop is in the setup. This could be potentially mafia indicative if DYH is lynched and flips town. I know I'm town and Damdred/Palmar have since flipped. In his defence, Palmar's end of cycle was bad. though. On December 05 2015 00:44 Rels wrote: Alright. ##Vote HTS This is just really.....IDK. He was townreading her hard based on end of cycle, and DYH and I were leading the lynch. I'm about halfway through Rels' filter. I'm voting him for now. But I'm going to try and come back roughly 30-45 or whatever and pick up on things or if something jumps at me one way or another. On a re-read and refocus there are a few things I don't see and a few things that are creating doubt. The two minute time gap is too small between disformation's vote on FF and his vote on Trfel, but at the same time there was no telling if someone else could have potentially hammered Trfel. This is where I might be willing to buy into LS's theory of scum possibly screwing this up. | ||
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I'm honestly grappling here. There is nothing right now that is screaming mafia about DYH. I really feel the case being made against him is 50/50 at best. I tried lining all shit up, I tried isolating his case against hts, like I said time and again there's an equal possibility he could have pushed the Dani lynch on his own. there are certain elements of her play that could have allowed him to do this. my other hesistancy is that the points being made is that ff is the one making the points and dyh never got to him for all I could tell. like I thought and thought, I mean I could honestly see this go either way. ff can spout off whatever. scum have a general generic tendency to fall off but this, dyh just seems like someone who is damned busy to play. the only thing that jumps at me is voting disformation in the event that disformation is town but that's unflipped association. | ||
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On December 09 2015 08:01 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Final vote count Fecalfeast (3): Trfel, The Shining, disformation Trfel (3): NocturneMage, Fecalfeast, Rels LightningStrike (1): Fidei86 Fidei86 (1): LightningStrike Disinformation (1): DoYouHas Fecalfeast is set to be lynched. this is what I mean rels. off wagon, solo vote. this is regarding dyh. | ||
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On December 12 2015 07:44 Rels wrote: 'cause if disfo is town, DYH is mafia by your analysis if disfo is mafia, well he's mafia so you should be voting one of them sigh that was from a poe standpoint. we don't know and dyh was on him for awhile. like I said last cycle I really feel someone is quite active or throwing us off track and my mind is spinning going through your filter. | ||
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I am thinking Shining is town. My gut is saying that DYH is town. I broke the guy's filter sideways. Rels' case against him is 50/50 at best. disformation is probably playing suboptimal as fuck but my caution on him is that I can't follow his train of thought easily. Rels is scaring me. I don't understand this overexplanation shit, and I'm starting to fear the push on what I think is a 50/50 case. And I am agreed with Fidei.....I fucking hate LS's play. If you sleep on him and if LS is mafia I am going to lose my fucking shit in the postgame. | ||
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On December 12 2015 07:57 The Shining wrote: This is a weird post for someone with no votes You all are getting ready to shennanie? what do you expect me to do? at the least I'm giving you shit to work with. | ||
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On December 12 2015 07:57 Fidei86 wrote: LS I get to kick you in the nuts if it's NM I swear to horse it's not me | ||
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