Like at the moment you are probably scummier than DYH, because the part I disagree about the HTS case is not as alignment indicative as Rels is making it out to be. I tried to determine that at end of cycle last night. and it wasn't conclusive.

NocturneMage

United Kingdom1965 Posts

December 09 2015 22:11 GMT

#2067

Like Rels is wrong, not scummy for it. I see where he's coming from, but in my mind I tried to isolate my bias/meta knowledge from the case. And I think if it was any other player than Dani, I would say the lacklustre posting day 1 could be suboptimal town, but the end of cycle vote switching was quite mafia indicative.

Someone with the experience that he has (per database) it's reasonable to conclude he could come up with the information on his own.

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Germany8352 Posts

December 09 2015 22:12 GMT

#2068

On December 10 2015 07:06 NocturneMage wrote:

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But you were so sure about DYH?

Most people are sure it's you over DYH, and a lot of the things said are really 50/50 between you and him.

Yeah, I can't wait for the night phase to be over so I can put my vote on him (DYH) and even if I wasn't sure about DYH I probably have to put my vote on him for survival's sake anyway.
Still want to make a last round of filtering to make sure I missed nothing, also I fear there won't be that much to talk about the next two days. The cases are made.
Actually maybe I can add one or two small things to my case on DYH, but the main reasons stand.

NocturneMage

United Kingdom1965 Posts

December 09 2015 22:15 GMT

#2069

The meta from scum games is quite different. There was no way I could justify voting DYH last night.

And Fidei voted down HTS. There was no discussion.

And Shining created a decent case for which you had to change positions. You holding out wasn't good for you.

So Fidei was off wagon last night, he was partying last night and admitted he couldn't do the research.

That's not alignment indicative. So what else changed?

NocturneMage

United Kingdom1965 Posts

December 09 2015 22:16 GMT

#2070

At some point in the discussion even he said he "could" vote Fecalfeast.

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Germany8352 Posts

December 09 2015 22:20 GMT

#2071

On December 10 2015 07:11 NocturneMage wrote:
Like Rels is wrong, not scummy for it. I see where he's coming from, but in my mind I tried to isolate my bias/meta knowledge from the case. And I think if it was any other player than Dani, I would say the lacklustre posting day 1 could be suboptimal town, but the end of cycle vote switching was quite mafia indicative.

Someone with the experience that he has (per database) it's reasonable to conclude he could come up with the information on his own.

With the last sentence you refer to DYH?

On December 10 2015 07:15 NocturneMage wrote:
The meta from scum games is quite different. There was no way I could justify voting DYH last night.

And Fidei voted down HTS. There was no discussion.

And Shining created a decent case for which you had to change positions. You holding out wasn't good for you.

So Fidei was off wagon last night, he was partying last night and admitted he couldn't do the research.

That's not alignment indicative. So what else changed?

On December 10 2015 07:16 NocturneMage wrote:
At some point in the discussion even he said he "could" vote Fecalfeast.

Yeah, see that is the kind of stuff I want to look at again and double check.
Cause I had a scum lean on him early D3, but dropped that, when he started to look like trying to solve the game. But I haven't really looked into his stances on FF for example.

NocturneMage

United Kingdom1965 Posts

December 09 2015 22:23 GMT

#2072

Yes DYH with that last sentence.

I know Fidei autopiloted day 2. Everyone did. Day 3, he went through several filters and we had a thing to do on LS.

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Germany8352 Posts

December 09 2015 22:25 GMT

#2073

On December 10 2015 07:23 NocturneMage wrote:
Yes DYH with that last sentence.

I know Fidei autopiloted day 2. Everyone did. Day 3, he went through several filters and we had a thing to do on LS.

Okay, fair enough.

NocturneMage

United Kingdom1965 Posts

December 09 2015 22:26 GMT

#2074

Fidei's arguments on LS were quite good, LS was completely useless most of the game. There was nothing scummy about that. There's interactions and there's rest of play.

It makes perfect sense for him to townread people and then policy lynch someone that he was least sure of being town and had many scummy traits about him, and his position was he didn't find LS's emotions believable. Hell, I didn't either.

Trfel

7015 Posts

December 09 2015 22:28 GMT

#2075

Imagine Dragons is pretty awesome

Why are you people trying so hard ^^

NocturneMage

United Kingdom1965 Posts

December 09 2015 22:35 GMT

#2076

I'm just having fun...and kind of bored.

.......well trying to.

That and I'm trying to play League. Dani went to bed early, so yay some free time.

NocturneMage

United Kingdom1965 Posts

December 09 2015 22:36 GMT

#2077

Well okay, I'm not drunk but I had a glass of chianti.

Er, okay I lied, maybe two glasses of chianti.

But I'm still sober

NocturneMage

United Kingdom1965 Posts

December 09 2015 22:40 GMT

#2078

Anyhow I don't think I'm voting DYH tomorrow. Meh, I can't conceive it. Not from the voting.

*offers Trfel a glass of wine*

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Germany8352 Posts

December 09 2015 22:40 GMT

#2079

On December 10 2015 07:36 NocturneMage wrote:
Well okay, I'm not drunk but I had a glass of chianti.

Er, okay I lied, maybe two glasses of chianti.

But I'm still sober

Yeah, yeah. Complains about her drinking whisky, busts out the wine as soon as she goes to bed.

NocturneMage

United Kingdom1965 Posts

December 09 2015 22:42 GMT

#2080

Alright, maybe I'll go for a third glass. Because I can.

Playing League might not be a good idea then, but eh....fuck it.

afk for 5 minutes.