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On November 10 2015 19:11 Rels wrote: Bah, the game shouldn't start before at least next week, and that means you will have done like 15 days of sitout; I will accept you if you still want to play at that point. If this means the game doesn't follow the banlist, so be it. ... Nha, it needs to happen anyway. I got to wait till this resistance bullshit ends. Somewhere 2017 I'll be able to play. | ||
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On November 10 2015 21:23 justanothertownie wrote: That's why you should think about which game you sitout :p Only game that started in November so far. It was that or not sitout a game at all. One can always pray somebody fucks up and the game ends. | ||
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On November 12 2015 22:50 NocturneMage wrote: Town are currently 0-2 right now. Still waiting for the newbie to begin here otherwise I'd try this. Doubt I'd do too well in a no-coaching game though. Town can get outplayed in all vanilla. Once a couple blues enter the playing field it get easier. Balance is probably around 60/40 but it is fine because it is a vanilla game. There are no surprises. | ||
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Maybe I should do some recruitment. But I lost my list :/ | ||
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On August 21 2013 23:27 Koshi wrote: Clearly people did not understand my previous picture. So I improved it a little bit. ![]() Evul Snowman is back in town!!! | ||
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I advise bringing one of these + Show Spoiler + ![]() | ||
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On November 20 2015 16:46 Alakaslam wrote: Bah this one isn't running yet. Are you the hidden mechanic, Mr Slam? | ||
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1) Player who died can make 1 more post the next phase whenever he wants, as long as it is in the next phase. 2) Hidden Mechanic | ||
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On November 21 2015 02:18 Sn0_Man wrote: i read ur edited post in dis thred btw good thing ur a changed man I know. I am close to a Saint. | ||
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These accusations hurt me. | ||
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On November 21 2015 00:09 marvellosity wrote: beg. + Show Spoiler + ![]() | ||
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On November 21 2015 05:47 scott31337 wrote: Lynch the bear! ![]() You need to /in first. | ||
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On November 22 2015 20:36 Onegu wrote: Sno when you going to teach me to be good at dota. Now that I have a PC that can run the game at more than 20fps, Would like to get more than 1.2k mmr. I ll play. I can't promise you will get any better though. | ||
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If we can find 3 people for tomorrownight start that would be nice. Wednesday will also be busy though. Damn. | ||
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On November 24 2015 03:51 NocturneMage wrote: my biggest beef with dota is that it is crushing on caster heroes compared to league. yes I've tried dota. relatively speaking, longer cooldowns, higher mana costs on average w/each spell, idiotic counters like anti-mage/silencer, yes I know there's shit like regen ring/euls/scepter but some of those items are very costly, hard to get if you aren't getting a lot of kills right away. and shit like pipe/bkb renders you useless late game. also most casters are relatively frail and more burst damage items/abilities in dota hurt that. aware there are situational builds for heroes....but the learning curve is steep. too steep. Everybody got his role in DotA. From start to finish. While the not support casters are good from the start of the game till the end of the game, they will never be completely "insane". However, during the first 20-30 minutes, they will be the strongest heroes on the field and will swing the game in favor for their team. While end game they still have strong disables and AoE damage. (QoP, invoker, puck, zeus and so many more) Support caster heroes get stomped the entire game 1v1 but that is part of the gameplay. They are useful in other ways. | ||
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It's not "crushing" on any of them. You just get less of the gold. | ||
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On November 24 2015 04:17 Sn0_Man wrote: wats ur mmr kosheep Highest 4.5. Most of the time 4.1. I like to tell myself that if I play my core heroes I am 4.3. But I cba to play weeks in a row the same 5-10 heroes while the games are exhausting. So I am sitting pretty on low mmr to enjoy the games more. | ||
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Hell yeah! | ||
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I rolled town. I have total interest to play a calm and smooth game though. | ||
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First couple of requirements: 1) Keep Koshi entertained. (aka post enough and don't be boring) 2) Call a lot of people mafia, and therefore vote a shitton (You are allowed to vote for Koshi but membership might be revoked, it depends on how I perceive my own play) I'll find more rules on the way. PS: it isn't really a towncircle, more a town pyramid and I am on top and you are all on the bottom. That being said, being in the town pyramid makes you a better person. | ||
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Brilliancy needs to be rewarded. | ||
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On November 25 2015 09:08 ObviousOne wrote: the outing scenario, taken alone: i take fefe's self-outing to mean that he's town and he wants to win the game, and that he believes his normal town behaviour when not associated with his name will lead to being lynched, therefore he can be himself from the beginning. would be hella easy if he rolled mafia to just go along with staying closeted about his identity and doing literally anything else. that said, i don't think it's really worth using the situation to judge whether or not he's town in a vacuum so just see where he goes from here How many times did ff roll mafia? What would ff do different when he is mafia? Why the fuck did ff actually roll a smurf? Somebody who isn't me should look up: A) If ff got misslynched recently as town. If he was recently misslynched, ff would make a smurf to see if he can play town how he likes under a smurf. B) If ff got identified as mafia recently, ff would make a smurf to hide as mafia better. Outing being smurf town as town in scenario A) doesn't make sense, in scenario B) it makes sense. Outing being smurf town as mafia makes sense in scenario A) but doesn't in B). GAME SOLVED. Now do the legwork my minions. | ||
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On November 25 2015 11:17 GlowingBear wrote: Diablo III? You've lost all my respect The money grabbing assholes from Activision completely fucked Diablo III on release, making it a piece of garbage. But in it's current form it is a very enjoyable game. It became really good. Trivia: I and 3 friends took 2-3 days free of work to play Diablo III on release. I even bought a new PC, then we played for like 60+ hours in 5 days. We were all sick to our stomach on how completely utterly shit the game was. Biggest disappointment I ever had in a game I ever played. We played for 60 hours hoping it would be better but it was so unbelievable shit. Didn't touch the game for over a year. Recently picked up the expansion with a mate and it has been fun because other people kept saying it became good. And it did. Ran through the entire campaign in 4-5 non consecutive days (dnu in how many hours, maybe 20?), very enjoyable because you can actually change the difficulty of mobs in exchange for more gold and xp and items. And today we did the new dungeon thingie in which you get a random generated dungeon and then need to run it on the difficulty you chose, harder = more loot. Item progression is steady and enjoyable. Good game. I am just upset they fucked it so hard in the ass on release. | ||
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Time to sleep. | ||
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I got no reads tbh. | ||
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On November 25 2015 11:38 GlowingBear wrote: Yeah, the last time I played we still had the auction house. But the plot is a disgrace to the franchise anyway I agree porn is better with a good story added to it. | ||
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On November 25 2015 11:51 GlowingBear wrote: Bad comparison. Right comparison: Previous games - porn with a good story that you can skip Diablo III - porn with shitty story with unskippable fat naked man appearing on the screen screaming "you'll never get to the end of it!!!, unless you do exactly the things I just told you" If we are talking about act 3 | ||
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Next in line are more rules and possible candidates for the town pyramid of love. | ||
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##unvote ##vote: TickTock | ||
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If we lynch town today and marv did is standard boring poe thingie on that person I wouldnt even be surprised. I guess we can give him 24 more hours. But everybody should prepare their minds and bodies for a d1 marv lynch. | ||
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My point was that if marv is not really looking too good 2 hours before deadline we should just lynch him. Now I am not completely reading this trhead atm but I have seen signs of disinterest. Like somebody saying you misread OO and you didnt clarify. So I was simply stating marv should be a target d1 and we should not be "waiting to see if he lynches town the first 2 days" | ||
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Just focus on actual play in this game and not focus on results. | ||
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We can lynch marv Or We cannot lynch marv On d1 Both are possible. We just wait and see. | ||
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Guys let's not lynch marv till d3 and only if we didnt lynch any mafia since then. It's also not fair to marv if he didnt lynch mafia and mafia keeps him alive. | ||
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1) Vivax saying he mindmelded with gb but ignored chrom who said same thing. 2) marv ignoring 2 comments made directly to him (not ignoring that makes his filter big in town games) 3) gb saying we should not worry at all ever about marv | ||
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Or will I? | ||
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D3 he ded anyway We shall see who will receive the n1 respect kill. Disclaimer: This post has been sponsored by "what if marv is town" thought | ||
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I locked myself out the house for 2 hours and had to sit in the garden house (w.e it is called) without phone. The only thing I had was my ipod. I did horrible things. | ||
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On November 26 2015 08:00 ANickelDrink wrote: lol isn't this exactly what koshi was saying NOT to do? This thread is full of bad minions. | ||
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On November 26 2015 08:03 ANickelDrink wrote: Is the tictock stuff just based on GB's explaination? Ticktock made a random post. 3 people found the exact same thing scummy. I'm like meh. But then again. TickTock is as good as a lynch target as anybody else currently. Maybe better. | ||
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On November 26 2015 09:01 GlowingBear wrote: Wow!! Are you implying that in a mafia game the players either gets voted and die or they survive??? :OOOO COMING FROM THE PERSON WHO SAID "We don't need to worry about marv, we lynch him only after he misslynched 2 townies". | ||
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That and he didn't reply to 2 people who called him out. | ||
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On November 26 2015 02:15 GlowingBear wrote: Meh, don't be, Marv should never be a worry Nope it is this guy ↑↓ On November 26 2015 02:19 GlowingBear wrote: In late game he is pretty obvious when he is mafia (usually) and if he is town his existence is always a threat to mafia. Which means I don't have to worry | ||
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On November 26 2015 04:42 marvellosity wrote: to clarify: what my post said was "it's pointless for koshi to tell the thread they can lynch marv" and you somehow morphed that into me saying "don't lynch me" nowhere did i say please don't lynch me or don't lynch me this should be really obvious stuff Also this: It is not pointless for me to tell the thread we could lynch marv D1 and not D3 like 50% seems to think for no reason at all. Unless they can point me towards marv last game in which he caught all mafia instantly. And as marv himself said in the thread, it is obvious when he is mafia, that's why I said that 2 hours before the lynch we should be ready to switch. I just already told everybody 26 hours in advance because you will all be to pussied out at that time. I need to train my minions. | ||
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but while I do that I want to point out to people that the last game he played, it was a game in which he died N1, but during the day he had many opinions (and all were wrong). Again, I am not saying marv is wrong all the time, I shall say this once, he is probably the best active sane player, but he can be wrong. then I want to point out people to the second last he played in which he was mafia, played the same game as here, made a pretty decent case against cephiro the second half of the day, people switched to cephiro but eventually lynched somebody else, while this happened marv just shimmered away and bought himself a ticket to day 2. Soooooooooooooooooo Let's just lynch marv if it is needed hmmk? Like he said himself. It is OBVIOUS when he is town. Now ask yourself, is it obvious to you marv is town? I DON'T THINK SO TOOO WAARRR MY MINIONS!!!!!!!!! + Show Spoiler + ![]() | ||
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What is this? A democracy? | ||
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http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/496215-mini-mafia-the-kinda-vanilla-experience?user=marvellosity Game in which he was mafia, also way more filters than I remember: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/494010-completely-normal-generic-mini-mafia?user=marvellosity&page=9 | ||
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On November 26 2015 09:40 ANickelDrink wrote: Can I apply for welfare under your rule? I hear over the water you guys have good freeloading opportunities. My minions are apparently all disobeying my rules lately so I guess 1 more freeloader won't make a difference. | ||
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On November 26 2015 10:10 marvellosity wrote: dunno, unlike koshi i didn't really get what he was saying about you also last time i was in a game with him and he was mafia i townread him d1 because i thought he was trying and useful, so. er, i dunno? ![]() not sure if this makes sense but i don't get the townie feels i did when i thought he was town and he was mafia, but i don't know if that really means anything D: It had something to do with ff only rolls town, so ff could only made a smurf to improve his towngame. Why would he then abandon his smurf? = ff must be mafia. I asked my minions to see in previous games how ff did and why he would make a smurf. Minions didn't do shit. | ||
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On November 26 2015 10:20 sicklucker wrote: ya but not only did no one agree with me you guys all decided to vote the only other guy that agreed with me. your all the enemy I also agreed. This pains me. How can you forget our moment? | ||
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On November 26 2015 10:17 ANickelDrink wrote: not since carnival IIRC when was this? 2013? | ||
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On November 26 2015 12:01 GlowingBear wrote: You don't think what I've said is right? It has something to it. | ||
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On November 26 2015 12:37 GlowingBear wrote: Koshi, if what I've brought has something to it, how come he be as good as a lynch target as anybody else (your "maybe better" doesn't sound you realy think it's better)? Why are you voting him? Why were you convinced only when chrom went against him, ignoring what I've posted until then? If Chrom is the only one you like, why aren't you interacting with him? What do you think of OO? (I know, lots of questions) Not sure if I only went for him after Chrom went for him, I went for him when I went for him. Might have been after I read GB, Chrom and Vivax on the matter. It's a good find but it is 1 thing, obviously TT hasn't done anything really so who knows? | ||
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![]() Then I see that Detective Vivax is getting votes. Not happy ![]() But I forgot to press enter so now I can start reading! | ||
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On November 26 2015 20:08 Tictock wrote: Ohh Dreamhack! I'm about to start cooking some Baklava, also with my eyes open nxt Ohh that shit is so good. So good so Sweet. yumyumyumyumyumyumyumyum | ||
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##unvote ##vote Vivax I am not 100% sure Vivax is mafia. But I can sheep marv. And TT is not going to get lynched. Even if he is mafia he can stay alive over a ton of other people. I might lynch the evul Snowman. Maybe not. Dnu. Can't say marv is "off" his play and then don't back it up at all. Ignores to talk about Vivax. Everything written here is produced by the bird of skimming words. | ||
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I will still read a lot though. Also I am unlynchable. | ||
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Fuck yeah. Never been there before. irrelevant news: I might have been too quick on the Snowman accusations. I have no clue yet there. Also I am nog going to meditate if we are lynching mafia, or the town that found all the mafia. Because that seems to happen 35% of the time. It's like 15% mafia 35% town that found all mafia 50% some dumbwit | ||
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Can you explain to me why Chrom is mafia? It is like the one I don't really think is mafia. All the others I cba about atm if I have to be really honest here. | ||
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On November 27 2015 03:27 GlowingBear wrote: Yes. And I can relate to Vivax when he says Tictock came back over-contributive How the fuck can 1 over contribute? Show me with a chain of posts. Did he repeat himself a lot or something? | ||
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What Vivax says actually makes some sense. It's not that TT his filter is so impressive. | ||
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On November 27 2015 03:31 Vivax wrote: See, this is precisely why I cba to mention everyone I'm scumreading besides my strongest scumread, it leads to shitty questions like these and is the reason I should just shut up about my thoughts. I want to lynch TT today and I cba to answer anything about marv or Chrom. No,I won't answer, gtfo. I just want to see if you have anything smart to say or just gave an extra name and are basically bullshitting. When you answer like this... I am going for bullshitting. Why Chrom? | ||
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On November 27 2015 03:37 Tictock wrote: Sure, first I'm scum because I make a post that's not coming to a solid conclusion, not advancing the game. Now I'm scum for contributing too much to the game. I take it I should be silent unless spoken to then? It's that you have scumreads on all the people scumreading you, and then hard townread all the people who were on the fence. | ||
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On November 27 2015 03:40 Koshi wrote: It's that you have scumreads on all the people scumreading you, and then hard townread all the people who were on the fence. Chrom, GB and Vivax said the exact same thing about you, and then in your comeback post you call those 3 the most scummy... Jumped on Vivax, said something about GB being too disruptive, and then Chrom is the guy on everybody his scumlist but no reasons ever are given. Chrom is probably mafia and ends up on his buddies their list ![]() | ||
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On November 27 2015 03:42 Vivax wrote: Cause I just played with him when he was town in the game BH won and he feels different. Fake contributive, opportunistic. I scumread him and marv when marv asked him something and he answered it or the other way around, I don't remember exactly. But it's more a tonish/feelish read, not really anything I can justify with specific content, except for one thing: He has been maneuvering around TT while agreeing on him with me and GB, at least around the time we posted against TT. Precisely how I'd see him bussing TT. Do you see any intention of him wanting to lynch TT while saying he agreed with the arguments???? Marv was also really silent around the time the TT thing got started. Now what really matters for me is: Do you think TT had any reason to agree with SL on FF if you look back to it except to not piss him off? I don't. It's obvious he only agreed with him for the sake of agreeing (who doesn't like people who agree with you?), since afterwards FF didn't mean jack to him except when marv asked him about it. Hmm. What if we lynch Chrom? | ||
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Perfect mafia. | ||
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My 2 mafia tbh. | ||
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##vote: Chromatically | ||
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On November 27 2015 00:01 marvellosity wrote: not sure how you can believe any of this? explain yourself. all of it. now. On November 27 2015 00:31 marvellosity wrote: the problem is, TT has produced the most content by far and you're not evaluating any of it, you're just stuck on one post from earlier that you sheeped off you also casually drop this "marv (and tt, chrome) for endgame credit" which i find totally unbelievable. Specifically "to avoid chaos" ? The game is SO. GOD. DAMN. SLOW. what fucking chaos? the game could DO with some chaos. I don't think you think any of it, I think you just wrote it to bullshit. ergo you are mafia 5 pages. 0 Chrom mentions | ||
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OO did nothing, made 1 big post, somewhat a smart mafia post. Chrom is actually the one who points out what is wrong with it. My first reaction to OO his posts was positive, but after reading Chrom his reply I actually switched my opinion. Maybe we should lynch OO? | ||
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Look at that superweak Chrom read. On November 25 2015 12:23 ObviousOne wrote: koshi just being koshi but good on you for tone read stuff sounds really generous towards chrom but i thought we were still fucking around mb you are right agree on sl only negative vibe i have about ticktock so far is the helpful townie post "i'm here to help" or whatever it was, your point by itself isn't necessarily hard evidence given how little has gone down so far | ||
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On November 27 2015 04:58 Tictock wrote: Your going to have to do a little more to convince me than him showing up in several lists. You think he is town? Explain this to me? You were the one saying he was mafia not so long ago, and now you want me to make the holy grail case and prove without a doubt Chrom is mafia? lol | ||
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Vivax has somewhat of a clue on what is happening. He is (might be) trying to solve the game and by doing that he pissed of marv saying dumb shit but is that mafia alignment? Chrom is way more passive. Way more prudent. Is not seeking any conflicts. Has pushed 1 person. I actually misread his opinion on TT in the start. It was actually more like "I see what you mean, repeat what somebody else said" Chrom has way more of those really unspoken reads: On November 25 2015 12:42 Chromatically wrote: I guess my problem with the post is more of the fact that it says nothing at all in so many lines. It's not so much that it's a contradiction -> "gg ez scum", but more of the fact that he says "you might have a point" and then waffles for a while and then says "possibly NAI". That is mafia knowing he is talking bullshit and then goes "I guess it could be this" (but in practice he knows it isn't) On November 25 2015 12:37 Chromatically wrote: sicklucker I'm not sure about. I agree he could be mafia for his push over something which I agree wasn't alignment indicative, but I liked that he didn't back down about it when he came under pressure. Ticktock I agree with your point, plus he just kind of came in and posted those non-opinions on FF and then peaced out. Koshi I don't have a read on. Look at how he talks about sl, same shit again: I can see your point BUT yabbyabbayabba. A townie would not always see 2 sides of the story like Chrom seems to do. Especially at the start of the game. dnu, looks like he is pushing an agenda with the TT/Vivax stuff as well. Suddenly he jumps on that topic and NOTHING IS LEFT ABOUT HIS OO READ? He doesn't even mention it. Just quickly trows some dirt on Marv. WHICH MARV FUCKING IGNORED CUZ MARV IGNORED CHROM THE ENTIRE GAME. | ||
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On November 27 2015 05:07 boxerfred wrote: I caught tonsillitis and am lying in my bed with fever. can't really play. voting vivax to not get modkilled, maybe I'll feel better in a few days once antibiotics kick in. srorry. ##vote Vivax BOXERFRED. PLEASE DO NOT LYNCH VIVAX. I DO NOT BELIEVE IN THAT LYNCH Please vote Chrom. I really see a Chrom/marv/TT and somebody scumteam. FUCKING VIVAX IS PROBABLY RIGHT. | ||
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Do not be offended if you by accident are not mafia. I am just saying that the scumteam from Vivax is not that farfetched. Maybe it is completely wrong. But I can see it possible that a townie could think it. | ||
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On November 27 2015 05:15 Sn0_Man wrote: there's only 3 scum i think I meant those 3 or somebody swapped in etc etc. | ||
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On November 27 2015 05:15 Sn0_Man wrote: there's only 3 scum i think Lets get this Chrom thing going? You in bro? | ||
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On November 27 2015 05:17 Tictock wrote: I don't get where your hard stance against a Vivax lynch is coming from here Koshi? Where is the Vivax fucking lynch coming from? He pissed of marv and everybody sucking marv his dick? Why is Vivax being lynched? He made enough posts by now. | ||
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AND VIVAX IS MY SCUMBUDDY?????????????????? AND I AM HARDDEFENDING HIM.??????????????????? lololol0lololol0lololol0lololol0lololol0lololol0lololol0lololol0 | ||
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On November 27 2015 05:20 Sn0_Man wrote: koshi i don't hate the scumteam ur talking i just don't see ironclad reasons and WAGON OF JUSTICE is not my idea of a day 1 plan Hmmmm. ok. So vivax is highest bet mafia for you? | ||
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On November 27 2015 00:00 Vivax wrote: I've also having a team of chrom/marv/TT in the back of my head since around yesterday but I refrained from posting it for post game cred to avoid chaos. Best course of action is keep calm and lynch TT. But now that marv pokes my sore butt with his vote I'll join the Koshi revolution if it gets to it. Like this is not the worst post. Marv jumps on it without asking about his Chrom read. WHICH IS ODD. Just hard pushes the TT thing. And the Chaos thing. Really simple shit. On November 27 2015 00:39 Vivax wrote: It's funny you say that while trying to lynch me when I think you're mafia. From my perspective your point has no validity. Chrom has been repeating how he agreed with the points on TT but kept pushing other stuff. Again. A point brought up on Chrom. And totally ignored. | ||
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On November 27 2015 05:20 Sn0_Man wrote: koshi i don't hate the scumteam ur talking i just don't see ironclad reasons and WAGON OF JUSTICE is not my idea of a day 1 plan ahh you are not voting yet. Hmm. We need to get marv or Chrom tbh. | ||
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On November 26 2015 02:10 Chromatically wrote: I'm totally alright with having a wagon on TicTock. marv makes me a bit uncomfortable for now but I feel like that will become clearer with time. What is this even? This posts makes no sense for somebody on OO. this post is on page 2. AFTER he voted on OO, went away, and came back. | ||
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On November 27 2015 03:28 Chromatically wrote: Well, I have to go for thanksgiving festivities and I don't think I'll be back before deadline. I feel good about a Vivax lynch for the reasons I said before, and I don't see how he can possibly be so sure on TT over essentially one post. ##Unvote ##Vote: Vivax Happy thanksgiving everyone! red: I will be back if it fits my mafia agenda. bolded: Chrom was ok with a TT lynch...... Why can't Vivax be sure? This is how you push people D1. You push em and try to get them lynched. Chrom suspect list: OO TT Marv And then he sheeps marv and TT onto Vivax????????????????????? | ||
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But this lynch is pure sadness. | ||
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And I am dieing N1. | ||
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On November 27 2015 05:53 GlowingBear wrote: Ok I think you're town [b]##Unvote ##Vote: Tictock[/b{ WHY TICKTOCK. CHROM IS SO MUCH BETTER............. HE IS DOING NOTHING | ||
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On November 27 2015 06:13 ANickelDrink wrote: Koshi can you point out things I've missed on chrome? -Tictock avoids talking about him even though he does the same thing as GB and vivax -marv doesn't talk about chrome -OO gives chrome an easy town read? More of an agreement with GB -your scumteam in marv/TT/chrome are all on vivax -Chrome votes with two of his suspects That's not a bad list tbh but I think it relies too heavily on association. I'm more uncomfortable about BF being on vivax than anything at this point On November 27 2015 05:13 Koshi wrote: Chrom has way more of those really unspoken reads: That is mafia knowing he is talking bullshit and then goes "I guess it could be this" (but in practice he knows it isn't) Look at how he talks about sl, same shit again: I can see your point BUT yabbyabbayabba. A townie would not always see 2 sides of the story like Chrom seems to do. Especially at the start of the game. dnu, looks like he is pushing an agenda with the TT/Vivax stuff as well. Suddenly he jumps on that topic and NOTHING IS LEFT ABOUT HIS OO READ? He doesn't even mention it. What is your opinion on this? | ||
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On November 27 2015 06:43 ANickelDrink wrote: You're correct sn0 I never said that in as many words. I see what you mean. I think your first point about him knowing he's talking shit is a better point than him having seen both sides of the story in your second quote. I get that townies don't have info and seeing both sides of the story could be born of extra info but just that he is considering both sides isn't scum indicative imo. His dropping of OO is kinda odd but it's not like OO is being at all consequential this game. His vote in on a plynch AFKer and he hasn't really brought anything to the table. Either chrome forgot about him or I see your point about those two being partners. I have to go to work and I start exatcly at deadline. Koshi you and your 8 page filter have my sword. ##unvote ##vote chromatically For all the good it will do anyway It won't do shit bro. We need to pick between Vivax and TT. I LITERALLY CANNOT PICK BETWEEN THEM | ||
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##unvote ##vote Vivax Like Marv is right and we lynch mafia. Or he is wrong and Vivax is town and we cross the marv bridge tomorrow. Vivax being town will make me hunt Chrom/TT/Marv like a motherfucker. | ||
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Anyway. It is Chrom/TT and something else. Only iff TT is mafia lol. | ||
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that's all. | ||
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2) I hope Chrom is mafia 3) I hope TT isn't mafia If 2/3 are correct I am not too devestated. | ||
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On November 27 2015 21:45 GlowingBear wrote: Stop me from lynching who? Koshi or TT? Because I think that nobody {Koshi} that votes with his scumread {Chrom} and kills a guy that had the exact scumteam as him {Vivax} and let's the Mafia counterwagon to survive {TT} (even tho this very second wagon {TT} has been refused to be voted by the main scumread{Chrom}) should be spared. Poorly phrased but my bad english isn't on the level where explain this properly, sorry. In my defense: I was play Diablo III, Dota 2 and nobody cared about my Chrom push. | ||
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When Chrom didn't happen and the votes were 4 vs 4 I just looked at the names Vivax and TT and didn't look at who voted for them, even though I knew Chrom voted Vivax, I forgot it in the moment. So I thought by myself, who should I kill? And I almost solely based me on the fact marv looked inexplicable townie enough to follow. Even though I yelled he was possible mafia for like a couple hours during the day. So in my head I believed that following marv would lead to more success than to follow the 4 guys on TT. But like I said, my scumreads were more Chrom, maybe OO and then a shitton of others could be mafia, like TT. I was a HUGE DEFENDER of Vivax during the day as well, so why I voted him away... I don't know. It is almost solely based on the fact I wanted to give marv his flip and the fact TT and Vivax were equals to me in my head at that moment. ... If TT is mafia and Vivax is town I look pretty bad. Totes agree. But I wonder if I am lynchable in like 3 days if mafia keeps me alive. Rarely is the case. | ||
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But seriously... marv can't be mafia or I will be sad. | ||
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On November 27 2015 22:59 GlowingBear wrote: Koshi why am I mafia? Because you are way to final/certain in your posting already. If I had to give a reason. Too much drama? I can't nail it. I am far from convinced TT is mafia. Could be though. I should really look who voted Vivax and at what times. Chrom/TT scumteam might be possible, Chrom did lose track of his own game (OO) and went for the vote on Vivax while he had TT and marv as suspicious. So dnu. It is possible. It's not something I am going to be hunting any time soon. If TT flips mafia I am coolio, but if he will be able to proof himself coming days there is nothing much left of your play tbh. | ||
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It seems your play has a very distinct direction. While I don't see how that is possible this game. | ||
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On November 27 2015 06:47 GlowingBear wrote: At least hammer Tictock first since if chrom is mafia you can associate him with Tictock and Vivax is probably town. I totally understand why you are upset though. I do see the posts now but I actually kinda skimmed over them because I was so busy playing Diablo. Let's say I shall not consider the option you are mafia till TT flipped. I will even respect and read all your opinions as it would come from town. And I will obviously follow you and lynch TT if it is ever close tomorrow. Xcept if it between Chrom and TT. | ||
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I can't get shit done. GB has the worst town list since 2011. Nobody else is town. | ||
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On November 28 2015 01:08 GlowingBear wrote: I bet I'm dead tonight unless scum team wants to WIFOM or the hidden mechanic messes the night kill up. And this is why I think you are mafia. I'll tell you. You are very wrong about everything. Consider starting over entirely. | ||
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Like... If the mafia are still hiding they literally won't have anything to do if we keep rehearsing same shit and don't stay open for other possibilities. Which there are millions. Case against TT: 1) Made a post that overexplained things? Vivax + GB jumped on it. 2) Tried to put effort into this game so he didn't get lynched. Then disappeared. What kind of retarded case is that? It is possible that he is mafia. The first thing is something that can happen, if I compare that post from TT with WHAT I FUCKING SAID ABOUT CHROM his post, then Chrom is way more mafia. And the second looks worse. HOWEVER, there are a lot of fuckers who didn't even did anything yet. And maybe TT tried to put effort in because he is town and 4 people were voting him? Then he AFK'ed like the 6 other names we could sum up. What the fuck did Chrom do? 1) Early game gave opinions on everything but was everybodies advocate. 2) Said OO could be mafia out of somewhat nowhere. 3) Said OO could be mafia for that big post he made. 4) Said marv and TT are suspicious and TT a fine lynch. 5) Voted with marv and TT on Vivax for a pretty lame reason. 6) Fucked off. And that guy got a green read?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? zomg omg wtf bbq | ||
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Chrommie, my Baratheon Borther, try to play harder can you? | ||
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I don't know about this game. Ugly lurkers. Also i posted something stupid in the vote thread.... Dumbass that i am. | ||
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On November 28 2015 03:06 Chromatically wrote: Koshi GB marv TT FF SL scott Onegu BF Sn0 OO is about where I'm at. The whole middle section is kind of a mess but it's mostly in order. This I could actually buy. Maybe we should lynch OO tomorrow. Pretty sure we should. | ||
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On November 28 2015 03:25 GlowingBear wrote: I think he might be pulling the too scum to be scum. Really. It's totally in the realm of possibilities. I was dropping it until he came back and start DEFENDING Tictock and calling ME mafia. OMFG like I didn't need more fuel. BTW, Koshi, why's marv town? Try to read my posts. | ||
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On November 28 2015 06:41 ANickelDrink wrote: I'll give you tictock going ham but this? that's not really boss material imho I know. I retracted that. I could actually vote with Chrom on OO. | ||
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##Vote: ObviousOne If it was near end of night and Chrom came back. I don't know. I just don't know. I guess I could vote the snowman as well. Maybe let's start with that. ##unvote ##vote Snowman | ||
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I have played in a game like that before. But there in the QT people could save a person from NK by voting. That being said. I need to reread the game a bit. I have issues with GB but I might be wrong, people who tend to do a lot also tend to annoy me a lot, but they do a lot because they are town and want to solve the game. So... I don't know yet. I am just waiting on The Clock to make a case on GB. Cuz the omgus is real. | ||
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I might be a bad person but I believe boxerfred "more". Might be they are both town though. Just dnu. I also might be a bad player. | ||
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This person might be mafia. Isn't doing that much and COULND'T CARE LESS about who got lynched. When he said he voted because "shenannies could happen" IT WAS 100% OBVIOUS it would not happen. If TT is town like he claims. He should look at this person instead of giving fefe a freaking free pass as top town. | ||
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On November 28 2015 06:24 ANickelDrink wrote: lol I know this is on vivax but it makes so much sense. Which makes me worry that marv is doing the thing where he's good at mafia... Where did I put my foil.. Like... how do you not vote Vivax then? | ||
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On November 27 2015 06:20 ANickelDrink wrote: Man if sn0 is scum this gives me the worst feelings of all his posts. weird post as well. ##unvote ##vote ANickelDrink | ||
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If by accident you are not mafia, which I very much can't see even though I am voting fefe, a scumteam TT/fefe/OO or a 1 pager might be possible. | ||
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On November 29 2015 02:44 Koshi wrote: weird post as well. ##unvote ##vote ANickelDrink Let me expand on this. This is a really weird post if TT and Vivax are town and this happened when they were both the wagons. It smells of TMI. I didn't check though. On its own it is a really weird post as well. A townie would maybe try to engage Snow? See what he means? Try to trap the snowman? Might be mafia on mafia. Finding a normal post weird because of TMI as well. Weird fucking post. | ||
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Snowman is giving us nothing to work with.... Think I will lynch him so we dont lose vs an afk scumteam. | ||
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Snowman NEVER PLAYS in the weekend. Either alignment. I don't exactly know why, but it has been like this since forever. | ||
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On November 30 2015 04:23 sicklucker wrote: and how would you do that make it 3-3? | ||
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##vote: ObviousOne I am ok with letting snow play an actual day... Still feel he is mafia, because as town he would do more effort around his absence. But for not. OO. | ||
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On November 30 2015 04:52 Sn0_Man wrote: how come nobody want's to lynch sicklucker i dun get it oh well Why are you not playing :'( You promised to carry me. | ||
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On November 30 2015 04:54 Sn0_Man wrote: weekend plus i wanted to lynch marv but then he got nk'd ![]() No internet, or not interested to play? | ||
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On November 30 2015 05:37 Tictock wrote: I'm back home, and should be around the rest of EoD. Nothing from Sn0 is convincing me he is town, but something about how afk and dead this game has been today kinda makes me think mafia doesn't care if he gets lynched. So, lets lynch GB! ##Vote: GlowingBear This sounds extremely dumb. | ||
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Because it is either OO or Snow. So unless you have reasons to believe both are town I don't see why we would lynch GB. | ||
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It's being consistent. Him jumping around isn't general mafia either. Mafia has way more issues being a chicken without head all the time. | ||
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On November 30 2015 05:54 Tictock wrote: I really don't like that reasoning. Why should we stick to the 2 lynches that have been slowly going all day that have gotten next to no reactions? I feel like i have pretty good reasons for why GB is mafia here. Check out my big case. Nha. Like I said. I don't believe the case. I don't see why town wouldn't do most of the things you said there. | ||
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You have to tell me why he did that as mafia. Not summarize what he did and say "well this is odd". | ||
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On November 30 2015 05:58 Tictock wrote: For one, he's hardly been jumping around on his reads at all, besides one or two exceptions. Second, he has hardly given any reasons for why he's changed his reads in the last day. Like the fact that he only ever talks about my activity, but never the content I'm putting out past that one post he went off on D1. That's not a read, and activity is never a good way to make a read on people. You gotta compare activity with content. It wasn't game breaking content you put out. And his case on you was that you just omgused all the people who had a scumread on you. Doing just enough work to not get lynched and then fucked off again. Which could be true. Like... I don't really hated the scumread on you back then. | ||
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On November 30 2015 06:00 ANickelDrink wrote: Talking about TT's case? I remember reading it last night and thinking it was ok... Was his conclusion really just that it's weird? No. It is an ok first read. But nothing in it says: GB did this because he is mafia, if he was town he would do Y. It's more of a story of what GB did, and then find it odd to understand, then conclude it should be mafia GB. | ||
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On November 30 2015 06:02 ANickelDrink wrote: Have any of the lurkers provided any content yet? I haven't seen any Nope | ||
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On November 30 2015 06:07 Tictock wrote: The not understanding was not seeing how it made sense from town!GB. Hmm. Not yet sure if town!GB is incapable of that. In a game like this. Would mafia really be so active and insane that they "annoy" people with inconsistency? They would be more like snow, OO, fefe etc I think? dnu | ||
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On November 30 2015 06:08 Tictock wrote: Yea I have really bad issues with this thinking. You've got to at least consider the possibility of Scum being active, and town getting shit on with so many non-contributors. I do. but I am going to lynch the non contributors who fake activity first. Well make the next days more pleasant than having to lynch GB now and then be stuck in a shitgame. I am confident that if I give GB 3 more days I will be able to make a better judgment of his alignment. Which I wont be with people like OO, bf, snow, scott etcetc | ||
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On November 30 2015 06:19 Tictock wrote: Without more info my reads are basically still the same as this post. And with the numerous inactive people and hardly any reads or info from the rest of you all I'm just about over this game. Then let's just vote snow out? | ||
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On November 30 2015 06:24 Tictock wrote: Throwing my vote back onto Sn0. Guess we'll see how this goes, but my gut feeling is that town is pretty fucked this game. I think these last post made you pretty mafia. My townreads all do X, you seem to do Y. | ||
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On November 30 2015 06:26 Tictock wrote: Well Koshi I though Shenanigans would be appropriate for how dead the day has been, but you all have undefined hard townreads on GB or like SL just feel like even if he's mafia he's not the lynch here this just feels like D1 all over again to me Both snow and OO need to go asap. This day has been pretty ok. Just sad 2 people are not playing at all and 2 are doing nothing townie in the few posts they made. If we (aka town) lose this game because of that I am fine with it. If GB/Chrom/TT are mafia for instance, I am really fine with a loss. | ||
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On November 30 2015 06:34 Tictock wrote: The fact that you seem fine to just lynch through lurkers or inactive people and don't care if that looses town the game is going to make me really rethink my read on you after this lynch. Plus I've never understood why you were so adamant that Vivax was town last EoD at first and then jumped on the lynch anyway. I am just a better player than you are. | ||
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On November 30 2015 06:50 Sn0_Man wrote: still don't see how we could ever lynch me over onegu/boxer/scott but w/e ... sad days bro. | ||
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On November 30 2015 06:55 Tictock wrote: Imagine how Vivax feels getting lynched D1 over everyone else SAYS THE GUY WHO WANTS TO LYNCH GB???????? HAHAHAHAHA Fucking joke. That's what you are. | ||
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On November 30 2015 06:59 Tictock wrote: Bah... this game Yeah we are lynching your afk top scumread instead of your overactive top scumread. The drama. | ||
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I like how TT is like outrageed by my scumteam and then proposes THE EXACT SAME scumteam only aith our names switched. And ofc pushes me :-D. Dnu feel like I shoukd have taken the bullet if I was even remotely close to right.... or they medic dodged the shot (mafia knows mechanics), but then why was sl saved ![]() I ll check it all later. | ||
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GB TT mafia team would be hilarious. But very unlikely. Dont see why OO is town for rehearsing something about d1. I guess I am voting Onegu because this is getting really ridiculous. Really. I cant phantom this play as tow where you want to solve the game. So disrespecting towards all people actually trying... This is the true cancer of this site. Afkers and shitters. What is the fun if there are people like him in your game that you have to meta on the fact they do literally nothing. Really. You can be proud of a shittrash meta like that. Scott same shit. But might be actually having problems? Ughhh is it so hard to properly explain your situation? Like... I thought we were playing a game that required you to be able to type up some words and make coherent sentences. Boxerfred same shit as well. Sick or not. Trash of the earth for not caring enough to make a post. But sl got actually saved......... I cannot believe why I voted Detective Vivax away for TT btw... I blame you for that marv. Great thinker vs lunatic that wants to lynch me. Amazing if people might think I am mafia. But this tt person doesnt underdtand he needs to look for mafia motive and not "strange play". Oh well maybe one day he will learn. | ||
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Like... if we believe oo to be town, chrom is kinda auto mafia for me. Hmm maybe chrom is always auto mafia. But why was sl shot... Got to look it all over. Wi do it. Got time maybe. No filters thiugh at work. Quite annoying. | ||
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On December 01 2015 12:43 Chromatically wrote: Koshi, can you explain your read progression on TT? I ll go to my pc after this. Hmm never had real sane scumread. But acted so insane abiut the snowlynch. Which wouldnt really be mafia tbh. It's just ........ Dnu. Like I said. Wouldnt lynch gb or tt. I got to rethink and find the solution. I am swimming atm. Trying to hit some thoughts and see what mames true sense. | ||
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On December 01 2015 12:51 Chromatically wrote: "chrom is so town he should have been shot" "chrom is always mafia" ? I ll explain it. Gtg pc. Couple minutes. | ||
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On December 01 2015 12:51 Chromatically wrote: "chrom is so town he should have been shot" "chrom is always mafia" ? So basically I am now in believe that there is information around the shot on sl. Why was sl shot and not Koshi/GB or Chrom? I was in no danger to be lynched, you were in no danger to be lynched, gb was in no real danger to be lynched (TT only) So why should SL and not anybody else? Mafia had the win after 1 more ml if ghosts didn't save, so obviously their greed took over and they shot with a purpose. Now I wonder what that purpose is. Now why are you mafia: In my head OO is always mafia, but if he is, why wouldn't they shoot you? ofcourse... This is all wifom. But still. I am just not having enough people to call mafia atm. Onegu. OO. Scott. But after that? I got to hit the active people. Who would be the first to go out? Who goes in? I was not shot. Does that mean I am totally wrong on TT and GB? The first time I said it out of dumbness and because it is so odd that D1 GB pushed TT so hard, and then made so many association reads with TT during the night, and then D2 it was the other way around were TT was going FUCKING MENTAL even before snow flipped. Like... GB called me mafia because I voted Vivax and not TT. And then TT calls me mafia for voting OO and telling him the GB lynch was completely out of reach D2. dnu. Odd shit. | ||
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On December 01 2015 12:54 ANickelDrink wrote: I didn't want to say anything about it this game but it seems I'm going to. Mafia is saving me for later, once again. The kill on SL was to incriminate me. also *proceeds to play fallout 4 for 5 hours* I'll get to it They only needed 1 more misslynch after SL died. It would not have been you. You know this, so mafia did not kill SL to incriminate you because you were not going to be their game winning lynch. Please actually play because the more people actual play, and with that I mean bring reasonable and interesting ideas forward, the least we got to worry about potential mafia and solve this fucking game. The spirit really gave me hope again. Lost cancer to modkill and gained ml with save. Good stuff. | ||
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On November 30 2015 13:36 sicklucker wrote: FF is lock mafia at this point I dont know why no one else sees it hes even more obvious then oo whos posts I dont really read. The third would be a toss between gb and scott On November 30 2015 13:31 sicklucker wrote: onegu not voting probably makes him town sadly. Id say hes >50% town here On November 30 2015 13:29 sicklucker wrote: Like koshi and chrone I want to live in a world where the mafia team is 00 + two of ff/gb/scott onegu? Not becuase I necessarily believe its that world but because its are only chance of winning On November 30 2015 13:37 sicklucker wrote: I dont know why onegu plays mafia but he never trys as town. As mafia im not sure but he brags hat hes good at it so I doubt he would play this bad On November 30 2015 13:39 sicklucker wrote: OO gb were both really defensive when I went after ff early if i recall. who else was? Is this a chain of posts with a shitton of truth? | ||
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It can be scumreads but it can also be townreads that ff wouldn't lynch. | ||
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On November 30 2015 13:39 sicklucker wrote: OO gb were both really defensive when I went after ff early if i recall. who else was? Maybe this lol? Is this the holy grail? | ||
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First tried to call me mafia --> marv smacked him away (and called me town btw, it is good to remember this) Then tried to call both SL/TT mafia --> (marv smacked him away, didn't believe both would ever be mafia, and sl most likely town) Must be annoying for a scum GB :D | ||
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On December 01 2015 13:22 GlowingBear wrote: I'm lynching scott ##Vote:Scott Btw something amazing happened to me but it will make me busy for a long time so I'll be less active from now on You should use that amazingness to continue playing this amazing game of mafia. Not afk out of it. | ||
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WELCOME TO THE PYRAMID OF LOVE. Chrom is first member. | ||
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You got the blueroles, but not the retarded blue claims. Fucking amazing. | ||
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I am willing to think GB is town. fefe Onegu scott and OO We start there. | ||
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On December 01 2015 13:42 Chromatically wrote: Yeah, I think 2 out of OO/Onegu/scott pretty much have to be mafia (don't feel like it's three), plus one out of FF/GB makes a lot of sense as the team. Maybe OO + scott + FF makes sense? Probably getting too far ahead at this point. YOU ARE WALKING IN THE BRIGHT LIGHT. WELCOME TO THE ROAD OF ENLIGHTENMENT. | ||
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On December 01 2015 13:42 Chromatically wrote: Thanks Koshi, it's a true honor to be here It's Mr. Koshi for you. This first mistake will be added to your monthly subscription fee. I kid I kid Welcome Brother Chromatically. The House of Baratheon stands strong again. | ||
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On December 01 2015 17:12 sicklucker wrote: theres something bothering me that koshi said. he mentioned how gb was leading marv on to reads he wanted like me being scum. I remember him resisting that pretty hard before kind of agreeing and has never mentioned me again. Because I had the same thought w0t? What is bothering you exactly? | ||
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I might chicken out on that lynch. | ||
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It's an empty feeling. | ||
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The blue roles on dead are so cool though. So good. | ||
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On December 02 2015 03:10 Koshi wrote: ##unvote ##vote ANickelDrink Looks legit. Maybe dangerous though. Should read that OO and GB defensive stuff and see if they might TMI fefe town. | ||
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Paranoia is fine but I got to stick with what I know this game. Quick and dirty: 3. TicTock - Made some townie post. Enough to not be lynched over Onegu/OO/fefe/scott 4. Chromatically - Townmeld early D3, had him as mafia D1 but he showed town and I don't think he buddied me 6. Onegu - If this guy is town, if, then I don't understand what he is doing. So he wants his meta to be this utter shit? I cannot believe it because than what is the fun in playing as mafia? Really. I cannot not lynch this guy down the pipeline. Meta or not. I really have problems with how he plays if he is town here. Like... on human levels. 8. ObviousOne - Dumbtell? Maybe, but can I lynch GB or TT over this guy? 9. GlowingBear - Great D1, marv had him as town, during night 1 fell off, never recovered. First of the active people I might consider. 10. ANickelDrink - Hasn't done shit, really hated his EoD1, hasn't done anything since, afk scumteam? We can't really not lynch him at this point tbh. He is like snow. Just vote away the cancer. If it is town... Nobody cares. 11. scott31337 - Doing nothing else than vote, again, I don't understand why he signs up for this game and he should be banned, this is not the standard of play I like to see on TL, what if there is more people like this in games? Well we found out with Onegu, boxerfred and scott. The game is not as fun like this... Just ban these people. This is not mafia, or it is, but not on TL standards, just vote this cancer away, I don't really care his alignment, I don't lose to mafia like this. I prefer to give a mafia who actually typed 1 sentence a win then to give this guy a win even though he is town with me. Pure fucking cancer. 13. sicklucker - conf town, why was he shot? Look my posts on that. | ||
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But is there a point to play a 13 people mafia when 4-5 people are literally not even trying? Snow - played dota entire weekend and didn't bother to type 1 sentence, was up for lynch and did nothing, didn't give a shit. Boxerfred - Made 0 content posts, said he was town and cba. disrespectful. Onegu - Constantly catching up. Hasn't done anything. Why sign up for 2 games and play like this? disrespectful. scott31337 - irl problems made him unable to play? Still, this is not acceptable, we kept the game small, he could do something. Not as bad mannered as Onegu, but still would prefer to never play a game with this guy. It's just not fun. ANickelDrink - Has done some things. Still... I hope he is mafia. If he is town he just didn't give a shit. I don't understand. Like literally can't understand why sign up for a game like this. If he is mafia I can understand his play if he has a good team ( disrespectful towards team but game is over), or if he has a shitteam (with Onegu and Scott I would also not give 2 flying fucks) | ||
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The other people played well btw. I think if they are mafia they played well, just not much competition. | ||
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With TT, Chrom, Koshi being the not lynch. However, this can still change because we are 1 week away from that. But these is no hair on my head that wants to leave fefe, Onegu and scott alive over any of the above 5 names. | ||
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You are so fucking out of this game you don't even understand why you are on position 4. That is the reason. | ||
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And then you ask "why am I mafia" Well that is why you are mafia. Or a shitty townie in a world I can only pray the people who are playing this game are good townies and not really good mafia players. | ||
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potential good mafia players: Chrom/TT potential good townies: Chrom/TT confirmed townies (that are confirmed because they played well): sicklucker potential townies that tried 1 day, and after that did fucking nothing, like literally nothing: GB potential bad townies that got lucky: OO potential mafia: GB, fefe potential trash townies that I would like to see banned from playing on TL, but I guess I will just have to endure their shittyness: Onegu, scott potential trash townies that I would like to see banned from playing on TL, but I guess I will just have to endure their shittyness, that have a chance of improving in the future: fefe potential trash mafia that I would like to see banned from playing on TL, but I guess I will just have to endure their shittyness: Onegu, scott | ||
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On December 02 2015 23:10 Koshi wrote: Here is how the game looks like potential good mafia players: Chrom/TT potential good townies: Chrom/TT confirmed townies (that are confirmed because they played well): sicklucker potential townies that tried 1 day, and after that did fucking nothing, like literally nothing: GB potential bad townies that got lucky: OO potential mafia: GB, fefe, OO potential trash townies that I would like to see banned from playing on TL, but I guess I will just have to endure their shittyness: Onegu, scott potential trash townies that I would like to see banned from playing on TL, but I guess I will just have to endure their shittyness, that have a chance of improving in the future: fefe potential trash mafia that I would like to see banned from playing on TL, but I guess I will just have to endure their shittyness: Onegu, scott Updated ↑ Forgot OO as mafia. | ||
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On December 02 2015 23:22 GlowingBear wrote: I've answered all the questions I've seen in the thread and im doing my best to keep track of things. It's not because I'm not pushing anyone hard that I'm doing nothing. I'm not confident on my scum reads but I am reevaluating stuff pretty constantly to be able to do PoE Explain to me why it is fucking impossible that I see you as potential mafia? Or do you think I am mafia? | ||
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On December 02 2015 23:27 GlowingBear wrote: I think you might be town, I'm not sure on you, but I am asking you why am I Mafia so I understand where your suspicions are coming from. Just that. Because since D1 I have no idea anymore 1) How you will solve this game. I have no clue at all. 2) Who your scumreads are. I mean... you think I am mafia, TT is mafia, OO is mafia. You can't know if Onegu is mafia, or scott. So really? Maybe you should just start making a list of people who you would accept losing to if they are mafia. Because you aren't get anywhere. And is not that by time we can cut down the fucking list. Cuz shitters like scott and Onegu are refusing to make a single post about this game in 192 hours. Scott is actually reading the game though. So that is why tomorrow we lynch Scott. And then Onegu. | ||
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On December 02 2015 23:42 GlowingBear wrote: If you're considering lynching me before Onegu then I won't put a single piece of effort in this game because that's already outrageous +1 | ||
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On December 02 2015 23:54 GlowingBear wrote: None of these people are strong reads But I'm doing things by PoE So today I don't want to lynch Chrom (top town), Koshi, TT and OO (his latest reactions sounded townie to me) I think scott should be the lynch today since we can afford a mislynch. I think FF cares too little to be Mafia here. Or it would make him more likely to be Mafia? I don't know. But I would always lynch scott first. SICKLUCKER is confirmed town so whatever This is where I'm at If that is where you are. You shouldn't care if it is fefe or scott. at all. But you do (also in previous posts) which is odd. So I don't know what you are doing. | ||
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On December 03 2015 00:18 GlowingBear wrote: I care because ff was here for a long time and scott wasn't + the way FF's wagon piled up is suspicious ... How is it suspicious if the people you believe are mafia didn't vote early? | ||
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On December 02 2015 07:57 Rels wrote: Abstimmung - Tag 3 ANickelDrink (5): Tictock, Benevolent ghosts, sicklucker, Koshi, Chromatically Chromatically (1): ObviousOne scott31337 (1): GlowingBear GlowingBear (0): Onegu (0): Nicht abgestimmt (5): Onegu, ANickelDrink, scott31337, Vengeful spirits Im Moment werden wir ANickelDrink von der Tour ausschließen! Dieser Tag endet in 0m 0s um 22:00 GMT (+00:00). Bitte geben Sie ihre Stimme hier ab. Wir werden nur Stimmen berücksichtigen die von dem Stimmzähler erfasst wurden. (Only votes in the voting thread will be counted.) Beachten Sie bitte die Wahlfrist! Wenn nicht Sie nicht abstimmen, werden sie vom Spiel entfernt werden. (Please mind the deadline. Failure to vote will result in a modkill.) The people you think are mafia didn't even vote. Still the wagon was started suspiciously? TT, marv ded confirmed town, alive confirmed town, Koshi, top town read. Suspiciously... I can't take anything you say seriously GB. In 1 hand I got fuckers that don't play the game. other hand I got GB that say his top townread, a dead townie and a confirmed townie started a suspicious wagon/ | ||
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On December 03 2015 00:34 GlowingBear wrote: Koshi, shocking news: I don't know who is Mafia and that wagon now has almost all the players in, which makes it a bus or... TA-DA! A mislynch!!! I've told you more than once that I'm also not confident on my reads and that I'm kinda doing PoE. You mean we either lynch mafia or town? shocking! And you said it started suspiciously. While it was started by your fucking top townread, a dead townie and a confirmed townie. While your 3 biggest scumreads weren't on it. The other 2 people are Koshi and TT. Which aren't up for lynch on this day anyway. You don't even want it, you want to lynch somebody who isn't fefe for a reason you don't have. Dnu if you are just terribly illogical or mafia or you need some special attention. But at this point I am willing to lynch you before Onegu. But after scott though. 96 hours. | ||
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On December 03 2015 00:18 GlowingBear wrote: I care because ff was here for a long time and scott wasn't + the way FF's wagon piled up is suspicious piled up with dead townie, confirmed town, Koshi and then your top townread. But please keep up the attitude like what you are saying isn't completely illogical garbage. Good job. | ||
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On December 03 2015 00:34 GlowingBear wrote: Koshi, shocking news: I don't know who is Mafia and that wagon now has almost all the players in, which makes it a bus or... TA-DA! A mislynch!!! I've told you more than once that I'm also not confident on my reads and that I'm kinda doing PoE. Look at bolded. Some guy is giving me attitude that can't even keep his own reads straight. Funny. | ||
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On December 03 2015 00:18 GlowingBear wrote: I care because ff was here for a long time and scott wasn't + the way FF's wagon piled up is suspicious On December 03 2015 00:34 GlowingBear wrote: Koshi, shocking news: I don't know who is Mafia and that wagon now has almost all the players in, which makes it a bus or... TA-DA! A mislynch!!! Or is it the timing of how all the confirmed townies voted for fefe? Was there exactly 2557 seconds between each vote? Illuminati confirmed? Am I reading this wrong? So a bunch of confirmed towns and a townread vote for a guy. GB does not want to lynch this guy because the piling on is suspicious. However, GB thinks the person who is voted on is top 3 mafia. And the 3 people who haven't voted yet are his top 3 mafia reads. (Which can be deduced by his reads and the fact it is an outrage if GB is voted out before Onegu) | ||
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D4: scott D5: GB D6: Onegu win or lose game. | ||
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"at least fefe is around, so let's lynch scott" Is Onegu town and is scumteam GB/fefe/OO and are they going for the modkill win today? | ||
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But let's not give more reasons why GB might be mafia, otherwise GB might asks if there are any reasons why people think he is mafia. | ||
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On November 25 2015 09:09 Koshi wrote: ##vote ANickelDrink Brilliancy needs to be rewarded. I was totes with sl from second 1. | ||
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On December 03 2015 20:55 Tictock wrote: @ Koshi You got to remember, mafia knows more than town does, so you got to ask yourself what the mafia agenda of GB was. Yesterday when you had that argument with GB there was a 0% chance you would get lynched and a +80% chance that fefe would get lynched. Would it not be strange play for mafia GB to call you out for not voting for him and instead voting for fefe? Like... In normal games, on day 3 after 2 town lynches, mafia are bussing like shit and trying to look as good as possible going into D4. There was not much to gain for mafia GB yesterday by being a dumbass. Everything can be wifomed but if GB is the sole mafia trying to win the game with his AFK teammates his endgame would be to win vs OO in lylo. He is doing a piss poor job securing the win like this. Dnu. Onegu --> Scott and we will see. | ||
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I also think fefe would play better if he had a good teammate like TT/Chrom/GB/Koshi. I was pretty pissed at a possible town!fefe yesterday but in a team with scott/Onegu/OO his lackluster play makes sense. Worst case scenario for us townies is fefe/GB/OO. If we can rule that out we got this covered till at least lylo. | ||
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On December 03 2015 22:21 Tictock wrote: 1) Eh, maybe. But if this is afk mafia!Onegu why bother saying that so far after the fact and when FF wasn't under any real suspicion? If we decide to lynch into the lurker pool tomorrow (which is still a good idea as we are still 1 mislynch from LyLo) I def think Scott is the lynch. If nothing else his excuses lining up perfectly with EoD's is way too convenient. 2) Also why doesn't scum!Onegu at least sheep town last phase? Throwing his vote away and missing a chance to sheep confirmed town onto scum? 1) At that point Onegu might have wanted to actually play this game. As mafia he tends to look good on his reads. 2) Are you sure that if Onegu voted fefe he would look "better"? After all the trowaway votes he would suddenly vote mafia the day we lynch mafia? That would be suspicious for somebody who is always 30 pages behind. | ||
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I didn't put any pressure on Chrom so I don't see why we would ever lynch him. I also don't agree Onegu isn't mafia. I would still vote Scott/Onegu first out of this game. | ||
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But in case OO is town scott is kinda PoE mafia. And in Case OO is mafia and scott voted to save his buddy, scott is still mafia. ##vote Scott I didn't read your night posts too carefully yet sl. But I'll think about the fact if Onegu is town. I don't think he is more town than GB. Solo voting doesn't matter shit if it is always town on town. Which OO might be if the mafia team is fefe/OO/Onegu. If there is another reason why Onegu might be town I didn't read it or forgot it. | ||
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SL, Koshi confirmed TT, Chrom top tier town or top tier mafia OO, GB town or mafia Scott, Onegu trash town or trash mafia Scott voting for Snow to put him in the lead vs OO does not make OO more mafia, it just means that if it was town vs town mafia scott was more afraid that Snow could prove himself town and that OO was more lynchbait in the future. Ofc it also could be OO is mafia and scott tried to save him. Dnu. OO is pretty null from all these votes. | ||
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On November 30 2015 07:00 Rels wrote: Abstimmung - Tag 2 Sn0_Man (7): ObviousOne (3): Chromatically, ANickelDrink (0): Koshi (1): Onegu GlowingBear (0): Nicht abgestimmt (2): boxerfred, Benevolent Ghosts Im Moment werden wir Sn0_Man von der Tour ausschließen! Dieser Tag endet in 0m 0s um 22:00 GMT (+00:00). Bitte geben Sie ihre Stimme hier ab. Wir werden nur Stimmen berücksichtigen die von dem Stimmzähler erfasst wurden. (Only votes in the voting thread will be counted.) Beachten Sie bitte die Wahlfrist! Wenn nicht Sie nicht abstimmen, werden sie vom Spiel entfernt werden. (Please mind the deadline. Failure to vote will result in a modkill.) I rarely ever saw 3 mafia vote in a row to start a wagon. This is pure wifom and dumb reasoning but it rarely ever happens. Mafia doesn't like to sit on the same wagon. | ||
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If the scumteam is actually active, they would have been able to make fefe do more. fefe, Scott, Onegu still works like a charm and I don't see a good reason to think OO is mafia. Scott is afraid to play as mafia and didn't post enough. Onegu is mafia and is playing solo. fefe got discouraged and stopped caring. OO got "saved" by 2 mafia because OO was less likely to do something and actually solve the game in the future. With snow simply not posting on D2 during the weekend. Even though snow his filter is garbage, he did go into a clinch with fefe for the slightest of moments. | ||
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On December 04 2015 08:21 sicklucker wrote: its not lylo we have a mislynch I know, but after that it is mylo. But I just understood your "let's lynch Chrom" post wrongly. I thought you meant we got another ml to lynch Chrom with. | ||
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On December 04 2015 08:29 Koshi wrote: If the scumteam is actually active, they would have been able to make fefe do more. fefe, Scott, Onegu still works like a charm and I don't see a good reason to think OO is mafia. Scott is afraid to play as mafia and didn't post enough. Onegu is mafia and is playing solo. fefe got discouraged and stopped caring. OO got "saved" by 2 mafia because OO was less likely to do something and actually solve the game in the future. With snow simply not posting on D2 during the weekend. Even though snow his filter is garbage, he did go into a clinch with fefe for the slightest of moments. ↑ This is all pure speculation | ||
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In an oversimplified mathy way, but actually adding the fact mafia would really really really really really really really really really really really really prefer to keep OO in the game over Snow: If scott mafia and OO town: 0% vote OO 100% vote Sno If scott mafia and OO mafia: 100% vote OO 0% vote Sno 1 out of the 2 worlds where scott votes OO, OO is mafia -> 50% In an oversimplified mathy way, but actually adding the fact mafia would really really prefer to keep OO in the game over Snow: If scott mafia and OO town: 20% vote OO 80% vote Sno If scott mafia and OO mafia: 100% vote OO 0% vote Sno Both worlds combined the chance OO is mafia is 60% vs 40% where he is town I don't remember the thread sentiment precisely. But I think people wanted to kill snow over OO because we thought snow was more likely mafia for doing nothing. Wasn't based on any reasoning at all. | ||
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1) Was I targeted because I see GB as town? Before Onegu and OO Oh now I remember. The song fefe choose. "I hate you" I wonder if it was based on the fact I should have died and I called Onegu/Scott Trash that should be banned from TL. Maybe they are all mad in their QT. | ||
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Like... I have been pretty nice to people except Scott, Onegu. That being said. It also could just be that he is mad and that the "you" stands for the town that lynched him. I was just thinking about the game and found it possibly funny/. | ||
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That is a bit op imo. I actually was also thinking and now remember: 2) ghost can only vote once, and marv was so smart to not vote between snow and OO because he thought it might be town on town. But alas, marv can vote a lot and just slacked D2 | ||
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On December 05 2015 15:23 Chromatically wrote: Scott has to be lynched though, and I think Onegu does too. | ||
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It's almost always Onegu. Dont get fucked due to the meta nobody even double checked. Because he does do a little bit normally. While here he is just adding to the paranoia train because he needs 2 more ml. 99% of the times Onegu is the lynch. For me it is 100% | ||
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On December 06 2015 08:53 GlowingBear wrote: Don't lynch him and lose the game then. Then I'll requote this. You can just type solely "yes" next time. Then I got to read less words. | ||
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On December 06 2015 08:56 GlowingBear wrote: Keep posting this so I can have more than one quote to PM you every day I would like to point out I had Chrom as mafia D1, and I didn't want to vote Vivax or TT. | ||
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On December 06 2015 08:59 GlowingBear wrote: Cool Do you understand where I'm coming from? No because Onegu is still in the game. | ||
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Then on top of that, his D3 was fucking awesome and he followed my train of thought perfectly. On top of that, why would he change the killtarget from sicklucker -> Koshi and risk another save on N3? Why would he do work N3, he already bussed for towncred and nobody looked his way?: + Show Spoiler + On December 03 2015 02:36 Chromatically wrote: I understand GB's thing about scott vs FF today. I don't think his thing about the FF wagon piling up too easily makes a lot of logical sense given his reads but I don't think it makes him a lynch before Onegu by any means. On December 03 2015 04:17 Chromatically wrote: I really don't think GB is the lynch over FF today at all On December 03 2015 06:45 Chromatically wrote: It's pretty nice how like the whole town circle has essentially the same PoE list. We just have to collectively find one solid town out of there and we should be able to pull this off. On December 03 2015 06:46 Chromatically wrote: also lol @ FF, "spirits making me actually give a shit about this game" indeed On December 03 2015 07:03 Chromatically wrote: There's probably a lot of info in those interactions D1 with SL pushing him and people taking sides on that, I'll go check that out at some point. On December 03 2015 16:25 Chromatically wrote: So I read through early D1 again to see how things went down when SL pushed FF for outing his smurf so early. Here are the relevant people's reactions: Out of these, I would say that scott and Onegu's are the worst (huge information, I know). scott gives as little of an opinion on it as humanly possible, just says that it's NAI and passes. Very easy for mafia to do, want to avoid giving opinions on their partners. Onegu says that FF looks worse for outing his smurf, but then never mentions FF again after it. He leaves his vote on Koshi all of D1 for no reason over someone he thinks is scummy (this part could just be him not playing at all). I think this reaction makes a lot of sense from mafia who know that the points on FF are correct but don't want to actually push them by bringing it up later. OO at least takes a stance on the issue. SL brought up earlier that mafia would probably have followed my argument against him and OO is the prime culprit of that, but it's a better reaction than scott/Onegu's at least. And since everyone else is convinced about him, I'm fine not dealing with him until after we have mafia #2. GB goes as far as to call SL mafia for his push, which would be a kind of bold move for mafia but it's certainly not out of the realm of possibility. So scott and Onegu look scummier, OO and GB mostly null. Not super helpful conclusions but it does make me feel good about lynching scott and Onegu. | ||
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While this game he starts playing to add to the paranoia train on Chrom WITHOUT ANY FUCKING REASONS TO GIVE TOWN. Ugh. I can't possibly be bothered to push a guy that is completely null over a guy that actually played the game and is most likely town. Just because some braindead fucks decide paranoia is bliss. | ||
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On December 06 2015 09:30 GlowingBear wrote: I thought Chrom voted OO at the shenanigan's time? From what I can read, he wanted Onegu but 2 other wanted OO, so he sheeped them because you need to vote together. | ||
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On December 06 2015 09:34 Koshi wrote: From what I can read, he wanted Onegu but 2 other wanted OO, so he sheeped them because you need to vote together. Also, OO is a ml Chrom needs as mafia.... ffs GB. | ||
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On December 06 2015 09:38 GlowingBear wrote: Well, Koshi, if Chrom is the last Mafia he would shenannie on anyone just to have one less ML No wait Let me do the math As mafia he would not want to shennanies because he would lose a ml to town..... But w.e. He could be mafia, (not really), but his play is superb then. Nobody gives reasons good enough to lynch him over Onegu. Just lynch ONegu and do w.e you want after that. Just lynch Onegu. | ||
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On December 06 2015 09:41 GlowingBear wrote: Yeah. He would need one less mislynch, Koshi. Any town up for the lynch would help him. NO HE WOULDN'T????????????????????????????????????????????????? | ||
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Town has 2 ml at this point. Let's say Onegu get's modkilled now. (was the other way around if we lynched Onegu and modkill scott) Then we STILL GOT 2 ml. Which means we can lynch/choose 3 people instead of 2. | ||
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The only interest I have is that you people lynch Onegu tomorrow. | ||
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On November 26 2015 19:52 ANickelDrink wrote: This post really feels like coasting along to me The spoiler complains about the low activity and koshi/marv which is whatever. He says Vivax isn't a good lynch because he was town one time where he ignored OO's questions. The bolded says that OO has a personal heuristic for playing with marv but provides no read on marv. So if you haven't read tictocks recent posts why is he 'out' of the top of your list? Because others started to go on him? That's an odd reason? What do the smurf stuff and marv have to do with sn0_man? You say he's a possible lynch target but only list a thing you like about his play the classic: don't really talk about FF but keep him open for later. I've seen this before. Explain what my stride is as town please. Pretty sure this will be a mess of a post but oh well Not sure if OO is a good lynch after Onegu. So I will let the baddies be after Onegu dies. But please do read both Chrom and TT if you want to do dumb shit. After Onegu dies. | ||
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and fefe is like: "why didn't you start saying it earlier". Like... He knew scott is mafia and is somehow using that info to make GB look worse: On November 30 2015 07:05 ANickelDrink wrote: You were thinking about shenanigan into scott when 5 mins before deadline you waited for the main wagon to explain himself... On November 30 2015 10:22 ANickelDrink wrote: GB what I'm trying to ask is at what point were you considering a shenanigan on scott when you made no indication you were even goinbg to switch votes until 7 mins or some shit before deadline There is a bit more... I really don't think GB is mafia because of this? I already didn't think it but this entire chain is really odd between 2 mafia. | ||
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On November 29 2015 10:52 ANickelDrink wrote: Call me paranoid but what if the scumteam is onegu/bf/scott and they're trying some RL excuse shenanigans.... On November 30 2015 06:03 ANickelDrink wrote: Flashbacks to the game I hosted where mafia team was so AFK they missed a night kill. Town lynched them that game tho.... On November 30 2015 06:22 ANickelDrink wrote: so if boxerfred shows up right before deadline with another 'lol idk what's going on' and a vote it's going to be so fun having a policy lynch among afkers on day fucking 3.... Lot's of focus by fefe on afkers. He voted boxerfred D1, and in last comment he also focusses WAY more on boxerfred than scott/Onegu. fefe never said anything about Onegu and his excuses. ... From reading the fefe filter I would lynch Onegu. (but I might be tunneled) But GB looks clear. And fefe making that counterpost on OO his first whinepost... Then instantly backing off when OO replied to him... Dnu... Onegu first. | ||
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From reading fefe filter a couple times I think GB and OO are in the clear. Would be nice if the paranoia train people would actually read some fucking filters. Start with fefe and Scott. And tell mewhat you think. | ||
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I am really warming up to lynch Onegu --> Chrome. Just because the fefe filter. fefe talks to OO like he does to other townies. Interaction with GB abput scott is odd, especially if they are all 3 mafia. Really unseen. fefe didn't vote Vivax when TT was on the block. While on the other hand: -waffles on scott, defended him once, said he could be mafia a lot. -ignores Onegu totally while having a fixation on the afkers -has a boner for people who think Chrome is mafia (both Koshi and OO) | ||
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And how did GB reply? : On November 27 2015 07:03 GlowingBear wrote: Tomorrow we lynch Tictock Then we lynch Koshi Then we lynch SL That's all Brilliant player that GB. | ||
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On December 06 2015 10:20 Koshi wrote: If Chrome is fucking mafia. Imagine how good I fucking was D1 again. I am really warming up to lynch Onegu --> Chrome. Just because the fefe filter. 3 townreads: -fefe talks to OO like he does to other townies. -Interaction with GB abput scott is odd, especially if they are all 3 mafia. Really unseen. -fefe didn't vote Vivax when TT was on the block. While on the other hand: -waffles on scott, defended him once, said he could be mafia a lot. -ignores Onegu totally while having a fixation on the afkers -has a boner for people who think Chrome is mafia (both Koshi and OO) I can back off all this shit with posts from his filter obviously. But I would like if people would read fefe filter carefully and analyze it. | ||
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On December 06 2015 10:56 GlowingBear wrote: That was before the lynch on Vivax happened. And that's not even a response to your scum read on Chrom. This was unfair, Koshi, come on. it was during night. After Vivax. But it is less fair. | ||
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On December 06 2015 11:29 Tictock wrote: Your suddenly very defensive... Also sweet flip, sorry I was so waffely about it. I'll be active tomorrow, today has been a fucking long day. Pretty down to see Onegu flip, Scott flipping mafia makes it super likely the last member is Onegu. Still some chance GB or OO are mafia, I really doubt Chrom is the last mafia. Onegu tomorrow, Prob OO after that, plenty of time for me to continue to tunnel GB. I fucking hope you didn't read all the stuff I said yet. GB is extremely unlikely reading fefe filter. And in general. Stop the shit with GB is mafia. He isn't. ffs. OO is also more unlikely due to fefe filter. But possible. Chrome on the other hand is super likely. His D1 was shit, the stuff we melded on D3 was actually good for him. So it pushed his own mafia agenda. And fefe had a strange fucking boner for people who wanted to lynch Chrom, but somehow was not pushing Chrom himself. There is enough information in filters/thread to make actual cases now. Don't trust your own brain. | ||
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On November 26 2015 07:59 ANickelDrink wrote: Couple questions, who is still being fluffy, or was when you made this post? I'd like to see who you're scumming based on the bolded. Can you elaborate on what chrome's post is lacking or containing to make it seem forced to you? The biggest fucking boner from Chrom. Literally if anybody said anything about Chrom fefe jumped on it. | ||
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It just clicks together. Fucking piece of shit Onegu not playing pisses me off so much. Still want to lynch him just because I don't want to lose vs Onegu at all. And he already pulled the solo mafia victory once. So I am ok with lynching chrom and Onegu. DON'T BE FUCKING TARDS AND LYNCH OO, GB unless you got some insane good reasons. Look at the filters. Look at the fucking filters. | ||
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His push and interactions with OO really not feel mafia on mafia. (somebody please check this) His interaction with GB on scott is impossible to be mafia on mafia over mafia. His boner for Chrom his unnatural, just because he never actually says something interesting or odd about Chrom. It is just him jumping on posts around Chrom. Like... All the small things, even the things like being surprised that Chrom answered so well to OO. Onegu is still possible out of the fefe filter as well. Like I said, fefe also focused a lot on the inactives. But never mentioned Onegu and constantly pushed boxer over the other 2 inacitves. | ||
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On November 30 2015 02:38 Onegu wrote: OK want to get this down. Scum reads as of page 38 Chrome. TT. Sn0. Out of all of these Chrome is giving me the bigger heebie jeebies. GB vivax unvote is really fucking wierd... Do you remember what you thought back then? Why was Chrome mafia at that moment in the game. | ||
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http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/496215-mini-mafia-the-kinda-vanilla-experience?user=Chromatically&view=all Way better start imo. | ||
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OO is the only other option. And I don't know... Read fefe filter to see if it is viable. | ||
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ON THE FUCKING RECORD: ONEGU IS STILL TOP TIER LYNCH | ||
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On December 07 2015 04:12 Tictock wrote: I'm on board with most of what you'r talking about here Koshi, but I think you're jumping to conclusions a bit easily. Besides that one interaction with GB there was almost no mention of GB in FF's filter. GB did defend FF fairly hard regarding the smurf stuff early on (mostly kus he pushed anyone who thought it was scummy). Neither of them really made a read on the other nor interacted before the stuff you're talking about. The Chrom stuff is super weak and I think your jumping on it more because of Than FF's filter. Whats convincing you that FF isn't just fence sitting regarding OO vs Chrom? Kus to me he goes back and forth on both of them like he doesn't really care if either get lynched. I like TT. He is a pretty cool guy. | ||
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So marv/TT can vote if they want. I don't know if they can switch their votes but w.e. GB has been extremely lackluster after D1. And I really don't have anything else than that mafia on mafia about 3rd mafia thig that is not enough tbh. | ||
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Chrom/Onegu: Could you tell me how you perceived TT this game? If you read his posts, what did you think? In general. | ||
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His dumb argument yesterday about him not being mafia I kinda ignored but it was kinda horrible. Ugh having to believe somebody as TT above my own reads is annoying. :/ | ||
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Dnu. The thing after nk with GB going "WTF" was also GB biting his tongue. Didn't really try to explain it. Just holding back and looked afraid to say something "wrong". | ||
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On December 07 2015 20:21 ObviousOne wrote: koshi did your rant yesterday about onegu mean we're lynching him today or do i need to read gb's filter post-haste? I don't know what post-haste means, but I think I might lynch GB today. But I got to read shit myself. TT really opened my eyes with those last posts. | ||
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On December 07 2015 21:27 sicklucker wrote: ya he is. Remember when I told you fuckers not to lynch him? I remember me yelling to lynch Chrom and that Vivax and TT were townie but because a bunch of fuckers wanted to lynch between Vivax and TT I decided to side with the biggest fucker. | ||
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TT his reasons for you being mafia are good. The reason I had for you not being mafia is wifom. I actually have more reasons why you are mafia. The reason why you say you arent mafia are some of the most retarded dumb idiotic bullshit reasons I ever saw. And your scumhunting has been even worse the last 5 cycles. | ||
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But to claim to be the least likely person to kill TT as mafia because: 1) it is better for mafia!gb to keep somebody alive who will vote and tunnel him all the time, using good argumentation. 2) he would kill a confirmed town who has the biggest chance of getting docsaved again and giving town another ml is 29 bridges too far. because 1) it is better for literally all other mafia!players exept OO to have TT in the fucking game. 2) it is literally the same for all other mafia!players to make a call between docsave dodge or killing 99,999% confirmed town. And that is beside the point. What didn't you do so far, and this is something everybody would do on fucking D5 if he cba to bother up in this game: 1) confirm your earlier suspicions and vote who you think is mafia or if you can't do 1) 2) look for the fucking mafia and try to figure out who it is. What you did do: 1) be completely and utterly surprised about a text about a saved shot, couldn't imagine wtf was going on. (even though with 1 braincell you could figure out the only possibility) 2) make 0 sense about how you are not mafia | ||
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tldr: you are equally useless as onegu, and that for 4 days already. Really, wtf have you been doing GB? Can't you just fucking concede if this is how you want to play it out. It's fucking pathetic. which is in perfect line of how the mafia team played par day 1 | ||
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it doesn't fucking fit. I classified it under GB is a dumbass I should ignore because he is not mafia because marv told me and he did play pretty well D1 and fefe filter had him somewhat cleared on a technically but seriously all those reasons are fucking shit and TT woke me up. Not only by dieing but also those posts he made. Which you read before the night ended. So unless you want to make a real effort you can really just stfu and go away GB. town or mafia. | ||
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On December 08 2015 02:30 GlowingBear wrote: Tell me what's wrong in my thought process Tell me why would I fucking kill TT under the current circumstances. Like... You come into this thread looking for me to explain why you would kill 99,99999% confirmed town TT as mafia!GB. TT who has been gunning for your ass since D2 and made a couple really good posts on Chrom being town and you being mafia during the night. Instead of fucking looking for mafia. Which you still haven't fucking done and we are 24 hours into D fucking 5. What fucking game are you playing? | ||
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##vote: Onegu The TT kill incriminates OO over Onegu. But OO has a couple good towntells (dumbtell & a couple townie posts) I am at this point a bit indecisive between OO and Onegu. Onegu his 2 biggest towntells: 1) Does nothing as town: Is pretty much WIFOM with him going to the hospital and everybody yelling he was possible town for doing nothing. He milked his meta out hard. Also, he came back at a point it was the most beneficial for him as mafia. Voted Scott to belong with the town, even tried to connect with people. The point he started playing was a perfect mafia moment and not the perfect town moment. 2) Is fucking with me pretty hard: He already did that as mafia once. He is just pure cancer. Don't think that makes him town at all. He didn't do it as town yet, yet did it once as mafia. | ||
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On December 08 2015 17:25 Chromatically wrote: Yeah, this is fine too if people would prefer it. I don't think the order matters too much now Going to read think about it a bit more... TT kill kinda points towards OO. | ||
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Both GB and OO have townie points. Both have mafia coincidentalities: OO --> mafia fefe voted snow over him. I think this could be explained though. GB --> all night kills incriminate him. But Onegu is pure cancer without townie treats. Sadly also without mafia treats? | ||
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On December 08 2015 17:41 ObviousOne wrote: Pick me if it helps to solve the game later in the same way I wanted to lynch Onegu d1 You have my axe I think you should move your vote off Chrom. | ||
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On December 08 2015 17:10 Chromatically wrote: Could be town because: - Really cared about the D1 lynch, which we know now was 2 town. Going back and rereading his D1 filter reminded me of this. It's not impossible that he's mafia and just faked it really well, but the fact that he clearly had an opinion that he was pushing a lot (like really trying to get people to vote TT) when he had no reason to as mafia is a pretty big point in his favor. - Just generally seems to be thinking about the game and trying to solve it (true that this has died off a lot recently, but there still was a lot D1/N1/D2). - Some "soft" interactions with FF that don't feel particularly mafia-mafia to me. This is also a pretty good list for why GB is town btw. I don't know why he decided to stop really caring about this game. Going to reread TT his arguments again. | ||
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On December 08 2015 20:36 sicklucker wrote: KOSHI I THINK YOUR BLINDED BY HATE. I GET IT BUT YOU ARE BLIND SON I am actually pretty calm about this btw. DotA training. Onegu is the most likely to be mafia. He played like mafia would play since D4. It is pretty awesome you are all falling for the mindgames though. Think about the facts only. GB and OO have town features. A list why they are town. Onegu does not have that. He only has meta (which he could have abused this game due to irl hospital visit) and then the fact he taunts me and gets townreads for but that is pure mindgames and fabricated by Onegu himself. It is not something townie, it is something you think he wouldn't do as town, or "people" in general wouldn't do. But he is doing it. Partly because I have been shitting on him D2-D3 probably. Remember how Onegu always said he was VT in the early game and called it his town seal? He broke that in XXX as mafia goon. The guy uses the fact it is more likely to roll town to create a meta and then abuse that town meta as mafia. This time he abused his uselessness because: 1) people very early said he was town for doing nothing (but even that is not true) 2) he couldn't do anything regardless of alignment because he had irl issues. So he is tricking you all. Don't be tricked. Kill Onegu. | ||
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On December 08 2015 20:50 ObviousOne wrote: Does mylo change for the worse if I forget to vote today? Don't do this. Just vote Onegu. | ||
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1 guy didn't. Don't be fucking tricked. This is why fefe didn't play. It is fucking Onegu. | ||
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On December 08 2015 21:00 GlowingBear wrote: Although I think Onegu has a good shot at flipping town... put it in words why you think that. I will put a reason for why OO, Chrom and GB are town next to each one you give why Onegu is town. But not the useless meta. Because I know the useless Onegu meta as town and this is not it. It is not this. | ||
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On December 08 2015 21:07 GlowingBear wrote: Actually it's a town tell that I still need to confirm but I think town Onegu is more prone to waste his votes as town than as Mafia. Usually, as Mafia, he uses his votes consciously to help his team. Here he is just constantly voting you, doing whatever. Because it was town on town the entire time? | ||
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M][N] Carnaval do Brasil Mafia Town Vanilla Killed Night 3 [M][N] Holy Guardians Chapter 1 Town Vanilla Endgamed Day 5 [M][T] Witchcraft Mini Mafia III Town Acolyte Survived Night 2 [N] Mafia in the Himalayas Town Miller Lynched Day 6 [M][N] Lost But Not Forgotten Mini Mafia Town Vanilla Survived Day 2 [M][N] Mini Mafia Down Under 3 Town Named Town Survived Day 6 [M][T] II Cannons Mini Mafia Town Vanilla Killed Night 3 [M][N] Completely Normal Generic Mini Mafia Town Vanilla Killed Night 1 [S] Student Mafia XV Town Vanilla Survived Night 1 Onegu town meta is not doing absolutely nothing and being a disruptive town. He actually gives some dumb insight on the game. Totally uninterested sometimes but also sometimes enjoys solving the game. There is nothing like that here. It is PURE FUCKING MINDGAMES: waste votes harass koshi meta old games all mafia mindgames. | ||
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On December 08 2015 20:47 ObviousOne wrote: You and me were the only two to really gain from shooting TT and it's not me Resting on your laurels since fecal died Nobody wants to kill chrom with me Looked at fecal and Onegu filters so it's either you or chrom Or Koshi is god tier mafia like I said before but he deserves to win if that's the case I like this post a lot. And the one he said he had a feeling it was Chrom against better judgement felt townie as well. | ||
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On December 09 2015 00:15 sicklucker wrote: screw this were killing OO today . onegu will probably forget to vote and get mod killed anyway No. Onegu is the only right lynch. | ||
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On November 27 2015 07:48 GlowingBear wrote: Why did you waste your vote FF? GB or OO tomorrow.... | ||
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On December 10 2015 13:19 Chromatically wrote: What do you think Koshi? I need someone to tell me I'm being tunneled if I am. We agreed on this yesterday though so I assume you still think so? I think it was a pretty good save because if GB isn't mafia you probably are ![]() | ||
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On December 11 2015 01:58 Chromatically wrote: If OO is mafia I expect to be worshiped by everyone postgame tbf. I also was voting OO over snow on D2. seriously. marv. I hope you are still fucking playing. Grrr. It really should be OO tbh. | ||
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On December 12 2015 00:10 GlowingBear wrote: And don't come and blame me for my inactivity in the End Game. I've been lurking but very often I came back to the thread to contribute. I've also posted every reason why you should read me as town (since nobody had the brains to figure it out) but you chose to ignore it. So if we lose, and if we lose to OO, you're the main one to blame, just because you couldn't use your brain. Still the only reason you have to scum read me is that my activity and a little of my interest in the game fell down. You have nothing else. It's laughable. No. I actually know all the reasons. tbh I would probably lynch OO over you if it was solely up to me. Maybe. It's annoying. But like I said. it is like 33% each for me. | ||
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Well it was the overselling into the complete silence after it. TT mafia Koshi mafia sicklucker mafia And then you just kept knocking on marv his door without any decent reasoning. Just dumbness. And then marv dies and you completely let it go... I don't know. I could see you do it as town as well though. I think the nks also incriminate you. But second in the list is OO and in theory that would make it good nks for OO as well... I don't know bro. 33% 33% 33% | ||
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On November 27 2015 21:22 Koshi wrote: 1) I hope marv isn't mafia 2) I hope Chrom is mafia 3) I hope TT isn't mafia If 2/3 are correct I am not too devestated. | ||
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D1 I was total boss. Rest was terribad. Dnu. Could I have lynched Chromie? I don't think so. | ||
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That was practically 50% of my tactic for today. | ||
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On December 12 2015 07:05 Half the Sky wrote: No. There is no protection when there are less than 4 players. smart rule. | ||
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On December 12 2015 07:06 Tictock wrote: GG Chrom, you fucking deserved that win. Really piss poor town play in a lot of ways this game, I know I didn't help being so tunneled on GB but I couldn't make sense of any townie motivation from him all game. Onegu lynch was pretty bad though guys, me and SL pointed out so many reasons why it made no sense for him to be scum this game. But with so many low hanging fruit and such terrible activity this was a rough game. Says the guy who said it was OO or GB and told me IT COULD NEVER BE Chrom and I was superwrong about it ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
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Now the tunnel will just need to happen each game. | ||
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Slightly erotic story promised and not delivered. jeez. | ||
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On December 12 2015 07:06 Tictock wrote: GG Chrom, you fucking deserved that win. Really piss poor town play in a lot of ways this game, I know I didn't help being so tunneled on GB but I couldn't make sense of any townie motivation from him all game. Onegu lynch was pretty bad though guys, me and SL pointed out so many reasons why it made no sense for him to be scum this game. But with so many low hanging fruit and such terrible activity this was a rough game. No seriously. How can you say something like this when you never ever would have fucking voted the mafia in this game? | ||
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Blame marv and TT for making it impossible. | ||
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On December 12 2015 07:14 Tictock wrote: Problem is nobody ever did much to prove it. Sure it was a possibility but what made it more likely than OO or GB? Yelling about it and giving out reasons and explanations why are totally different things. It actually helped Chrom a ton that this was such a low activity game and that one of his teammates never really played. Gave us very little to look at after lynching Scott and FF in terms of association. Read my D1 case on him. It had 15 reasons. | ||
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And then after reading the fefe filter I knew it once again. It was so obvious on how fefe had a boner for Chrom.............................................. OMG | ||
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On December 12 2015 07:17 Tictock wrote: How did we make it impossible? Me and marv did a shit ton of reevaluation and looking at this game in our QT. More than town did the last 2 days of play. But w/e Koshi you put more faith in a Vote with no idea of the mechanics behind it than your your own reads and want to blame us. Though tbf to you you didn't really have anyone to talk too, which is why I say town played pretty shitty this game. Well. I am pretty obnoxious but I am not going to go after Chrom when there is marv watching the game and saying it is 100% GB. You know.. Spirit messages and shit. | ||
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Now I can just "gloat" endgame?? Dnu. It didn't feel right to go after Chromie. Even though dem hunches said it was chromie. | ||
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jeezus. | ||
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On December 06 2015 11:28 Koshi wrote: I fucking told all of you on D1. Unbelievable. Just reread my own filter. Just fucking brilliant. | ||
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On December 06 2015 10:24 Koshi wrote: I cannot fucking believe how talented I am tbh. | ||
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On December 06 2015 11:33 Koshi wrote: I fucking hope you didn't read all the stuff I said yet. GB is extremely unlikely reading fefe filter. And in general. Stop the shit with GB is mafia. He isn't. ffs. OO is also more unlikely due to fefe filter. But possible. Chrome on the other hand is super likely. His D1 was shit, the stuff we melded on D3 was actually good for him. So it pushed his own mafia agenda. And fefe had a strange fucking boner for people who wanted to lynch Chrom, but somehow was not pushing Chrom himself. There is enough information in filters/thread to make actual cases now. Don't trust your own brain. | ||
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On November 27 2015 05:30 Koshi wrote: red: I will be back if it fits my mafia agenda. bolded: Chrom was ok with a TT lynch...... Why can't Vivax be sure? This is how you push people D1. You push em and try to get them lynched. Chrom suspect list: OO TT Marv And then he sheeps marv and TT onto Vivax????????????????????? On November 27 2015 06:30 Koshi wrote: What is your opinion on this? | ||
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But seriously. I am boss. | ||
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Really funny how people think it is "unreasonable" by me to lynch town!Onegu over town!OO or town!GB While I have been giving good cases on Chrom. (as only one in the entire game. literally 4-5 cases and 5-10 reasons). And those where not even being considered to be true. Well maybe considered. But in every case your own lynch (marv-->Vivax D1, TT--->GB D4-5) was the hallelujah case I should listen to ![]() | ||
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I thought it was because you couldn't consecutive heal and you wanted to go for the 50/50 because you had Chrome as second mafia. | ||
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I can't take that responsibility. That's obnoxious on a level I haven't reached yet. | ||
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I want to thank Rels and Cohost for the game. Really like the idea of the ghosts being the blue role. I think that the Vengeful spirit idea was stupid. But luckily it didn't have any impact, but it was stupid because alignment changes are THE FUCKING WORST MECHANIC IN MAFIA, and to have them in a normal game (even though it was [T]) is fucking bullshit. But like I said, no impact, so lucky. I also think that the ghost being able to vote like normal players is pretty strong. I think that an invisible vote that gets locked and becomes visible 1 hour before the lynch is better balanced. The secret message was a bit meh, it could/should just have been some sort of "testament" 24 hours into the next day tbh. But the dead people being the doc is really cool. Great idea. An incredible mechanic that can be applied to future normal games. It can be modified so that lynched townies get a docsave the next night or something. Really cool idea. It can be any blue power revealed with the daypost. Like copcheck or something. Really cool stuff. | ||
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