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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
November 09 2015 14:20 GMT
#11
/in
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
November 10 2015 08:47 GMT
#15
/out. I got hit by cancer.
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
November 10 2015 10:19 GMT
#17
On November 10 2015 19:11 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 10 2015 17:47 Koshi wrote:
/out. I got hit by cancer.

Bah, the game shouldn't start before at least next week, and that means you will have done like 15 days of sitout; I will accept you if you still want to play at that point. If this means the game doesn't follow the banlist, so be it.

...
Nha, it needs to happen anyway. I got to wait till this resistance bullshit ends. Somewhere 2017 I'll be able to play.
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
November 10 2015 17:23 GMT
#20
On November 10 2015 21:23 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 10 2015 19:19 Koshi wrote:
On November 10 2015 19:11 Rels wrote:
On November 10 2015 17:47 Koshi wrote:
/out. I got hit by cancer.

Bah, the game shouldn't start before at least next week, and that means you will have done like 15 days of sitout; I will accept you if you still want to play at that point. If this means the game doesn't follow the banlist, so be it.

...
Nha, it needs to happen anyway. I got to wait till this resistance bullshit ends. Somewhere 2017 I'll be able to play.

That's why you should think about which game you sitout :p

Only game that started in November so far. It was that or not sitout a game at all. One can always pray somebody fucks up and the game ends.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
November 12 2015 15:48 GMT
#24
On November 12 2015 22:50 NocturneMage wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 11 2015 02:23 Koshi wrote:
On November 10 2015 21:23 justanothertownie wrote:
On November 10 2015 19:19 Koshi wrote:
On November 10 2015 19:11 Rels wrote:
On November 10 2015 17:47 Koshi wrote:
/out. I got hit by cancer.

Bah, the game shouldn't start before at least next week, and that means you will have done like 15 days of sitout; I will accept you if you still want to play at that point. If this means the game doesn't follow the banlist, so be it.

...
Nha, it needs to happen anyway. I got to wait till this resistance bullshit ends. Somewhere 2017 I'll be able to play.

That's why you should think about which game you sitout :p

Only game that started in November so far. It was that or not sitout a game at all. One can always pray somebody fucks up and the game ends.


Town are currently 0-2 right now.

Still waiting for the newbie to begin here otherwise I'd try this. Doubt I'd do too well in a no-coaching game though.

Town can get outplayed in all vanilla. Once a couple blues enter the playing field it get easier.
Balance is probably around 60/40 but it is fine because it is a vanilla game. There are no surprises.
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
November 12 2015 15:49 GMT
#25
Also you should totally join if you are not playing in the newbie. The things you said in previous obs QT were spot on.
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
November 16 2015 11:53 GMT
#31
at the rate this game fills resistance might end sooner. How the heck did this happen :L.
Maybe I should do some recruitment. But I lost my list :/
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
November 16 2015 17:57 GMT
#34
On August 21 2013 23:27 Koshi wrote:
Clearly people did not understand my previous picture. So I improved it a little bit.

[image loading]

Evul Snowman is back in town!!!
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-11-16 18:21:44
November 16 2015 18:20 GMT
#37
Joke will be on you when you realize I only became worse over time.
I advise bringing one of these
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
November 17 2015 18:26 GMT
#39
!!! oldskool !!!
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
November 19 2015 12:42 GMT
#50
Is this saturday/sunday you speak of planned in 2017? Otherwise I'm pretty sure you'll make it.
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-11-19 16:06:37
November 19 2015 16:02 GMT
#52
------------ w.e------------
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
November 19 2015 16:15 GMT
#54
I am improving my lifestyle as you can see.
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
November 20 2015 08:40 GMT
#58
On November 20 2015 16:46 Alakaslam wrote:
Bah this one isn't running yet.

Are you the hidden mechanic, Mr Slam?
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
November 20 2015 15:00 GMT
#59
5 more people. Come on.........
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
November 20 2015 15:13 GMT
#61
PLEASE MARV PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE I LOVE YOU BIG DADDY
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
November 20 2015 15:20 GMT
#62
Also I heard rumors about your physical performance during mafia games lately and I am totally capable fixing those.
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
November 20 2015 17:03 GMT
#67
Euuhm. It's not normal normal but WE WILL TAKE YOU


1) Player who died can make 1 more post the next phase whenever he wants, as long as it is in the next phase.
2) Hidden Mechanic
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-11-20 17:03:37
November 20 2015 17:03 GMT
#68
Genius minds
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
November 20 2015 17:16 GMT
#74
7 GAME BAN AVOIDED
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
November 20 2015 17:17 GMT
#75
Thx guys.
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
November 20 2015 18:27 GMT
#77
On November 21 2015 02:18 Sn0_Man wrote:
i read ur edited post in dis thred btw good thing ur a changed man

I know. I am close to a Saint.
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-11-20 19:28:37
November 20 2015 19:27 GMT
#80
I wouldn't dare. Jeezus.
These accusations hurt me.
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
November 20 2015 19:48 GMT
#82
4 more. I got to fill 8 hours work without having actually work so........ Come on bois. We can fill this game by Monday.
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
November 20 2015 19:48 GMT
#83
On November 21 2015 00:09 marvellosity wrote:
beg.

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
November 20 2015 19:49 GMT
#84
This is how I actually look like. I am 100% innocent.
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
November 20 2015 22:55 GMT
#88
On November 21 2015 05:47 scott31337 wrote:
Lynch the bear!

You need to /in first.
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
November 21 2015 00:47 GMT
#90
sicklucker pls
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
November 22 2015 14:55 GMT
#99
On November 22 2015 20:36 Onegu wrote:
Sno when you going to teach me to be good at dota. Now that I have a PC that can run the game at more than 20fps, Would like to get more than 1.2k mmr.

I ll play. I can't promise you will get any better though.
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-11-22 17:46:32
November 22 2015 17:44 GMT
#101
max 2 hours for me to be ideal. Except when I am mafia then 3-4 hours is fine.
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
November 23 2015 16:36 GMT
#106
good. I was superbusy today. I was amazed myself.
If we can find 3 people for tomorrownight start that would be nice.

Wednesday will also be busy though. Damn.
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
November 23 2015 16:42 GMT
#107
Oh and what a dickmove by marv
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
November 23 2015 16:49 GMT
#109
Every post I made is necessary and should be read as it was written by Jeebus our Great Saviour himself.
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
November 23 2015 19:15 GMT
#119
On November 24 2015 03:51 NocturneMage wrote:
my biggest beef with dota is that it is crushing on caster heroes compared to league. yes I've tried dota. relatively speaking, longer cooldowns, higher mana costs on average w/each spell, idiotic counters like anti-mage/silencer, yes I know there's shit like regen ring/euls/scepter but some of those items are very costly, hard to get if you aren't getting a lot of kills right away. and shit like pipe/bkb renders you useless late game.

also most casters are relatively frail and more burst damage items/abilities in dota hurt that.

aware there are situational builds for heroes....but the learning curve is steep. too steep.

Everybody got his role in DotA. From start to finish. While the not support casters are good from the start of the game till the end of the game, they will never be completely "insane". However, during the first 20-30 minutes, they will be the strongest heroes on the field and will swing the game in favor for their team. While end game they still have strong disables and AoE damage. (QoP, invoker, puck, zeus and so many more)

Support caster heroes get stomped the entire game 1v1 but that is part of the gameplay. They are useful in other ways.
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
November 23 2015 19:16 GMT
#120
But I haven't played LoL in years. I played it for like 2 years between dota 1 and dota 2
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
November 23 2015 19:18 GMT
#122
Playing support is playing another game than playing carry. Same for mid. Same for offlane. Everybody plays a different game.

It's not "crushing" on any of them. You just get less of the gold.
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
November 23 2015 19:20 GMT
#124
On November 24 2015 04:17 Sn0_Man wrote:
wats ur mmr kosheep

Highest 4.5. Most of the time 4.1.

I like to tell myself that if I play my core heroes I am 4.3. But I cba to play weeks in a row the same 5-10 heroes while the games are exhausting. So I am sitting pretty on low mmr to enjoy the games more.
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
November 24 2015 02:42 GMT
#128
3 people. 3 motherfucking people.
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
November 24 2015 03:20 GMT
#130
Thank you scott. You are a man between bois.
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
November 24 2015 15:05 GMT
#151
##signmeup

Hell yeah!
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
November 24 2015 23:30 GMT
#207
Was too busy playing Diablo III to see the start of this game.
I rolled town.

I have total interest to play a calm and smooth game though.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
November 24 2015 23:34 GMT
#208
I am also going to create a town circle. The rules to join this town circle will be formed tomorrow. I need to think about a flawless system.

First couple of requirements:
1) Keep Koshi entertained. (aka post enough and don't be boring)
2) Call a lot of people mafia, and therefore vote a shitton (You are allowed to vote for Koshi but membership might be revoked, it depends on how I perceive my own play)


I'll find more rules on the way.



PS: it isn't really a towncircle, more a town pyramid and I am on top and you are all on the bottom. That being said, being in the town pyramid makes you a better person.
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
November 24 2015 23:37 GMT
#209
I could also argue that scott is mafia for not saying he is town in his first post but I won't go there. Improved lifestyle and such.
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
November 25 2015 00:07 GMT
#233
I completely understand what sicklucker is saying. I just do not know if I want to follow it. It sounds so randomly brilliant.
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
November 25 2015 00:09 GMT
#236
##vote ANickelDrink

Brilliancy needs to be rewarded.
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
November 25 2015 00:13 GMT
#240
On November 25 2015 09:08 ObviousOne wrote:
the outing scenario, taken alone:

i take fefe's self-outing to mean that he's town and he wants to win the game, and that he believes his normal town behaviour when not associated with his name will lead to being lynched, therefore he can be himself from the beginning. would be hella easy if he rolled mafia to just go along with staying closeted about his identity and doing literally anything else.


that said, i don't think it's really worth using the situation to judge whether or not he's town in a vacuum so just see where he goes from here

How many times did ff roll mafia? What would ff do different when he is mafia? Why the fuck did ff actually roll a smurf?

Somebody who isn't me should look up:

A) If ff got misslynched recently as town. If he was recently misslynched, ff would make a smurf to see if he can play town how he likes under a smurf.

B) If ff got identified as mafia recently, ff would make a smurf to hide as mafia better.


Outing being smurf town as town in scenario A) doesn't make sense, in scenario B) it makes sense.
Outing being smurf town as mafia makes sense in scenario A) but doesn't in B).


GAME SOLVED.

Now do the legwork my minions.
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
November 25 2015 02:11 GMT
#247
This thread needs more drama.
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
November 25 2015 02:32 GMT
#259
On November 25 2015 11:17 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 25 2015 08:30 Koshi wrote:
Was too busy playing Diablo III to see the start of this game.
I rolled town.

I have total interest to play a calm and smooth game though.


Diablo III? You've lost all my respect

The money grabbing assholes from Activision completely fucked Diablo III on release, making it a piece of garbage. But in it's current form it is a very enjoyable game. It became really good.


Trivia:
I and 3 friends took 2-3 days free of work to play Diablo III on release. I even bought a new PC, then we played for like 60+ hours in 5 days. We were all sick to our stomach on how completely utterly shit the game was. Biggest disappointment I ever had in a game I ever played. We played for 60 hours hoping it would be better but it was so unbelievable shit.

Didn't touch the game for over a year. Recently picked up the expansion with a mate and it has been fun because other people kept saying it became good. And it did.

Ran through the entire campaign in 4-5 non consecutive days (dnu in how many hours, maybe 20?), very enjoyable because you can actually change the difficulty of mobs in exchange for more gold and xp and items.

And today we did the new dungeon thingie in which you get a random generated dungeon and then need to run it on the difficulty you chose, harder = more loot.

Item progression is steady and enjoyable.


Good game. I am just upset they fucked it so hard in the ass on release.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
November 25 2015 02:32 GMT
#260
Oh wait. Somebody here is actually around to play mafia.
Time to sleep.
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
November 25 2015 02:35 GMT
#261
I wonder where Diablo II sits on my best games I played list. Under Warcraft III, C& C: Red alert, WoW, Dota. Somewhere there?
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
November 25 2015 02:36 GMT
#263
Is there a rule about offtopic discussions? Otherwise I suddenly get banned for 15 games again. Would be said.
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
November 25 2015 02:36 GMT
#264
sad*
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
November 25 2015 02:37 GMT
#265
Anyway, too tired. 3:37 am. Dafuq.... I got timez tomorrow except in evening.

I got no reads tbh.
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
November 25 2015 02:44 GMT
#271
On November 25 2015 11:38 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 25 2015 11:32 Koshi wrote:
On November 25 2015 11:17 GlowingBear wrote:
On November 25 2015 08:30 Koshi wrote:
Was too busy playing Diablo III to see the start of this game.
I rolled town.

I have total interest to play a calm and smooth game though.


Diablo III? You've lost all my respect

The money grabbing assholes from Activision completely fucked Diablo III on release, making it a piece of garbage. But in it's current form it is a very enjoyable game. It became really good.


Trivia:
I and 3 friends took 2-3 days free of work to play Diablo III on release. I even bought a new PC, then we played for like 60+ hours in 5 days. We were all sick to our stomach on how completely utterly shit the game was. Biggest disappointment I ever had in a game I ever played. We played for 60 hours hoping it would be better but it was so unbelievable shit.

Didn't touch the game for over a year. Recently picked up the expansion with a mate and it has been fun because other people kept saying it became good. And it did.

Ran through the entire campaign in 4-5 non consecutive days (dnu in how many hours, maybe 20?), very enjoyable because you can actually change the difficulty of mobs in exchange for more gold and xp and items.

And today we did the new dungeon thingie in which you get a random generated dungeon and then need to run it on the difficulty you chose, harder = more loot.

Item progression is steady and enjoyable.


Good game. I am just upset they fucked it so hard in the ass on release.


Yeah, the last time I played we still had the auction house.

But the plot is a disgrace to the franchise anyway

I agree porn is better with a good story added to it.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
November 25 2015 02:53 GMT
#274
On November 25 2015 11:51 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 25 2015 11:44 Koshi wrote:
On November 25 2015 11:38 GlowingBear wrote:
On November 25 2015 11:32 Koshi wrote:
On November 25 2015 11:17 GlowingBear wrote:
On November 25 2015 08:30 Koshi wrote:
Was too busy playing Diablo III to see the start of this game.
I rolled town.

I have total interest to play a calm and smooth game though.


Diablo III? You've lost all my respect

The money grabbing assholes from Activision completely fucked Diablo III on release, making it a piece of garbage. But in it's current form it is a very enjoyable game. It became really good.


Trivia:
I and 3 friends took 2-3 days free of work to play Diablo III on release. I even bought a new PC, then we played for like 60+ hours in 5 days. We were all sick to our stomach on how completely utterly shit the game was. Biggest disappointment I ever had in a game I ever played. We played for 60 hours hoping it would be better but it was so unbelievable shit.

Didn't touch the game for over a year. Recently picked up the expansion with a mate and it has been fun because other people kept saying it became good. And it did.

Ran through the entire campaign in 4-5 non consecutive days (dnu in how many hours, maybe 20?), very enjoyable because you can actually change the difficulty of mobs in exchange for more gold and xp and items.

And today we did the new dungeon thingie in which you get a random generated dungeon and then need to run it on the difficulty you chose, harder = more loot.

Item progression is steady and enjoyable.


Good game. I am just upset they fucked it so hard in the ass on release.


Yeah, the last time I played we still had the auction house.

But the plot is a disgrace to the franchise anyway

I agree porn is better with a good story added to it.


Bad comparison.

Right comparison:

Previous games - porn with a good story that you can skip

Diablo III - porn with shitty story with unskippable fat naked man appearing on the screen screaming "you'll never get to the end of it!!!, unless you do exactly the things I just told you"

If we are talking about act 3
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
November 25 2015 02:54 GMT
#277
2 game ban.
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
November 25 2015 02:56 GMT
#280
Personally I haven't read it and I need to sleep.

Next in line are more rules and possible candidates for the town pyramid of love.
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
November 25 2015 14:40 GMT
#312
You guys convinced me that TT is a better lynch.


##unvote
##vote: TickTock
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
November 25 2015 14:52 GMT
#313
I also want to point out that everybody who voted is most likely town. Xcept Onegu, who I will not attempt to read ever.
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
November 25 2015 14:54 GMT
#314
What I actually wanted to point out was that people should vote. Slow game will be speed up. Just do something crazy.
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
November 25 2015 18:26 GMT
#345
Imo we should just lynch marv tbh. Nothing wrong with it. It has been ages since he actually found mafia d1 and got his target lynched.

If we lynch town today and marv did is standard boring poe thingie on that person I wouldnt even be surprised.

I guess we can give him 24 more hours. But everybody should prepare their minds and bodies for a d1 marv lynch.
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
November 25 2015 19:29 GMT
#348
I am not mafia though. I also dont see why I am mafia for saying that it is a dumb way to scumread marv on how many mafia he caught. Like the graph gb described.

My point was that if marv is not really looking too good 2 hours before deadline we should just lynch him.


Now I am not completely reading this trhead atm but I have seen signs of disinterest. Like somebody saying you misread OO and you didnt clarify.


So I was simply stating marv should be a target d1 and we should not be "waiting to see if he lynches town the first 2 days"
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November 25 2015 19:31 GMT
#349
I am not even remotely close to spammy and yolo atm. But I welcome all the townreads.
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November 25 2015 19:34 GMT
#351
I mean... We could argue my post was a bit rude towards marvie. But it was made with good intents.

Just focus on actual play in this game and not focus on results.
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November 25 2015 19:39 GMT
#357
No marv. You were not lynched d1 in a previous game because everybody was "let's ignore marv till d3 and he we lymched 2 townies" instead you tried to get town hero cephiro lynched and town actually kept that sentiment in the thread even after you died and lynched cephiro in lylo
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November 25 2015 19:41 GMT
#360
Let me clarify:

We can lynch marv
Or
We cannot lynch marv
On d1

Both are possible. We just wait and see.
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November 25 2015 19:42 GMT
#362
What we dont do:

Guys let's not lynch marv till d3 and only if we didnt lynch any mafia since then.


It's also not fair to marv if he didnt lynch mafia and mafia keeps him alive.
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November 25 2015 19:47 GMT
#366
I shall reward that with nicer formulated posts about your abilities.
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November 25 2015 19:52 GMT
#367
I ll put some random problems I had in writing
1) Vivax saying he mindmelded with gb but ignored chrom who said same thing.
2) marv ignoring 2 comments made directly to him (not ignoring that makes his filter big in town games)
3) gb saying we should not worry at all ever about marv
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November 25 2015 20:09 GMT
#370
Next game I am mafia I am going to spare marv his life.
Or will I?
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November 25 2015 20:13 GMT
#371
If you are mafia in this game there is like a 0% chance you kill marv. Or he is actually dangerous.

D3 he ded anyway

We shall see who will receive the n1 respect kill.


Disclaimer: This post has been sponsored by "what if marv is town" thought
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November 25 2015 22:24 GMT
#377
True random fact:

I locked myself out the house for 2 hours and had to sit in the garden house (w.e it is called) without phone. The only thing I had was my ipod.

I did horrible things.
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November 25 2015 22:55 GMT
#379
The only person I really like this game is Chrom. But I respect his scumgame too much to allow him in the Pyramid of Love.
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November 25 2015 22:56 GMT
#380
4 misslynches sound so much though. I think we can just sit pretty for a while and not worry.
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November 25 2015 23:11 GMT
#384
On November 26 2015 08:00 ANickelDrink wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2015 04:54 boxerfred wrote:
marv is good, don't kill him. only if he's alive after N2 or so

lol isn't this exactly what koshi was saying NOT to do?

This thread is full of bad minions.
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November 25 2015 23:12 GMT
#385
On November 26 2015 08:03 ANickelDrink wrote:
Is the tictock stuff just based on GB's explaination?

Ticktock made a random post. 3 people found the exact same thing scummy.
I'm like meh.

But then again. TickTock is as good as a lynch target as anybody else currently. Maybe better.
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November 26 2015 00:06 GMT
#389
On November 26 2015 09:01 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2015 04:41 Koshi wrote:
Let me clarify:

We can lynch marv
Or
We cannot lynch marv
On d1

Both are possible. We just wait and see.


Wow!! Are you implying that in a mafia game the players either gets voted and die or they survive???

:OOOO

COMING FROM THE PERSON WHO SAID "We don't need to worry about marv, we lynch him only after he misslynched 2 townies".
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November 26 2015 00:09 GMT
#392
I actually need to add the fact marv didn't read the thread carefully enough that my dumbish written post was perceived way more offensive than it actually was.

That and he didn't reply to 2 people who called him out.
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November 26 2015 00:10 GMT
#393
On November 26 2015 02:15 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2015 02:10 Chromatically wrote:
I'm totally alright with having a wagon on TicTock.

marv makes me a bit uncomfortable for now but I feel like that will become clearer with time.


Meh, don't be, Marv should never be a worry

Nope it is this guy ↑↓
On November 26 2015 02:19 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2015 02:16 Sn0_Man wrote:
I'm curious as to why u feel taht way gb


In late game he is pretty obvious when he is mafia (usually) and if he is town his existence is always a threat to mafia. Which means I don't have to worry

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November 26 2015 00:13 GMT
#395
And that's comingfrom a GB who asked marv a question, marv dodged the question (-ish), and then GB sucked up to marv for it.
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November 26 2015 00:18 GMT
#396
On November 26 2015 04:42 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2015 04:40 marvellosity wrote:
On November 26 2015 04:39 Sn0_Man wrote:
?
Koshi "we shud be ready to lynch marv"
marv "don't lynch me its obvious when i'm maf"
?

ok so i don't need to talk to you anymore, cool

to clarify:

what my post said was "it's pointless for koshi to tell the thread they can lynch marv"

and you somehow morphed that into me saying "don't lynch me"

nowhere did i say please don't lynch me or don't lynch me

this should be really obvious stuff

Also this:

It is not pointless for me to tell the thread we could lynch marv D1 and not D3 like 50% seems to think for no reason at all. Unless they can point me towards marv last game in which he caught all mafia instantly.

And as marv himself said in the thread, it is obvious when he is mafia, that's why I said that 2 hours before the lynch we should be ready to switch. I just already told everybody 26 hours in advance because you will all be to pussied out at that time. I need to train my minions.
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November 26 2015 00:25 GMT
#398
But I will let go of this tunnel and give marv a total fair chance to get connected to this beautiful game of mafia we are playing here.


but while I do that I want to point out to people that the last game he played, it was a game in which he died N1, but during the day he had many opinions (and all were wrong). Again, I am not saying marv is wrong all the time, I shall say this once, he is probably the best active sane player, but he can be wrong.

then I want to point out people to the second last he played in which he was mafia, played the same game as here, made a pretty decent case against cephiro the second half of the day, people switched to cephiro but eventually lynched somebody else, while this happened marv just shimmered away and bought himself a ticket to day 2.



Soooooooooooooooooo Let's just lynch marv if it is needed hmmk?



Like he said himself. It is OBVIOUS when he is town. Now ask yourself, is it obvious to you marv is town?

I DON'T THINK SO





TOOO WAARRR MY MINIONS!!!!!!!!!

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November 26 2015 00:33 GMT
#400
mafia never does the least. They do just enough not to get lynched.
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November 26 2015 00:39 GMT
#402
Jeezus. I as Overlord should not be asked to do legwork by a want to be anonymous minion.

What is this? A democracy?
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November 26 2015 00:42 GMT
#404
Game in which he died N1, 10 pages of filter:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/496215-mini-mafia-the-kinda-vanilla-experience?user=marvellosity

Game in which he was mafia, also way more filters than I remember:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/494010-completely-normal-generic-mini-mafia?user=marvellosity&page=9
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November 26 2015 00:43 GMT
#405
On November 26 2015 09:40 ANickelDrink wrote:
Can I apply for welfare under your rule? I hear over the water you guys have good freeloading opportunities.

My minions are apparently all disobeying my rules lately so I guess 1 more freeloader won't make a difference.
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November 26 2015 00:44 GMT
#406
The case is on page 5
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November 26 2015 01:07 GMT
#418
am I saying he is mafia? No. I am saying WAIT AND FUCKING SEE.

jeezus
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November 26 2015 01:14 GMT
#429
On November 26 2015 10:10 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2015 10:07 ANickelDrink wrote:
On November 26 2015 10:04 marvellosity wrote:
On November 26 2015 09:42 Koshi wrote:
Game in which he was mafia, also way more filters than I remember:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/494010-completely-normal-generic-mini-mafia?user=marvellosity&page=9

yes that was an efforty mafia game.

I had my bumbuddy Palmar to talk to on irc all the time about it ^^

What do you think of licksucker? He won't respond to me

dunno, unlike koshi i didn't really get what he was saying about you

also last time i was in a game with him and he was mafia i townread him d1 because i thought he was trying and useful, so.

er, i dunno?

not sure if this makes sense but i don't get the townie feels i did when i thought he was town and he was mafia, but i don't know if that really means anything D:

It had something to do with ff only rolls town, so ff could only made a smurf to improve his towngame. Why would he then abandon his smurf? = ff must be mafia.

I asked my minions to see in previous games how ff did and why he would make a smurf.


Minions didn't do shit.
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November 26 2015 01:15 GMT
#431
At the time it sounded really smart.
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November 26 2015 01:21 GMT
#439
On November 26 2015 10:20 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2015 10:14 marvellosity wrote:
On November 26 2015 09:51 sicklucker wrote:
you guys said alot of garbage but no one disproved my theory. since no ones cares ill just afk vote ff and be right

that's because it can't be disproven

nor can the alternative valid explanation where he is town though

that's the problem


ya but not only did no one agree with me you guys all decided to vote the only other guy that agreed with me. your all the enemy

I also agreed. This pains me. How can you forget our moment?
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November 26 2015 01:22 GMT
#441
On November 26 2015 10:17 ANickelDrink wrote:
not since carnival IIRC

when was this? 2013?
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November 26 2015 03:08 GMT
#454
On November 26 2015 12:01 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2015 08:12 Koshi wrote:
On November 26 2015 08:03 ANickelDrink wrote:
Is the tictock stuff just based on GB's explaination?

Ticktock made a random post. 3 people found the exact same thing scummy.
I'm like meh.

But then again. TickTock is as good as a lynch target as anybody else currently. Maybe better.


You don't think what I've said is right?

It has something to it.
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November 26 2015 04:19 GMT
#462
On November 26 2015 12:37 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2015 12:08 Koshi wrote:
On November 26 2015 12:01 GlowingBear wrote:
On November 26 2015 08:12 Koshi wrote:
On November 26 2015 08:03 ANickelDrink wrote:
Is the tictock stuff just based on GB's explaination?

Ticktock made a random post. 3 people found the exact same thing scummy.
I'm like meh.

But then again. TickTock is as good as a lynch target as anybody else currently. Maybe better.


You don't think what I've said is right?

It has something to it.


Koshi, if what I've brought has something to it, how come he be as good as a lynch target as anybody else (your "maybe better" doesn't sound you realy think it's better)? Why are you voting him? Why were you convinced only when chrom went against him, ignoring what I've posted until then? If Chrom is the only one you like, why aren't you interacting with him?

What do you think of OO?

(I know, lots of questions)

Not sure if I only went for him after Chrom went for him, I went for him when I went for him. Might have been after I read GB, Chrom and Vivax on the matter. It's a good find but it is 1 thing, obviously TT hasn't done anything really so who knows?
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November 26 2015 05:16 GMT
#464
scott never had BH as coach right? Cuz so many excuses.
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November 26 2015 17:56 GMT
#624
I am on page 24. Also got invited to play some doto so
Then I see that Detective Vivax is getting votes.
Not happy

But I forgot to press enter so now I can start reading!
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November 26 2015 17:59 GMT
#629
Holy fuck TickTock and OO being bosses on page 24. Jeez.
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November 26 2015 18:01 GMT
#632
On November 26 2015 20:08 Tictock wrote:
Ohh Dreamhack!

I'm about to start cooking some Baklava, also with my eyes open

nxt

Ohh that shit is so good. So good so Sweet. yumyumyumyumyumyumyumyum
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November 26 2015 18:08 GMT
#637
After reading page 29 I am in the marv camp.

##unvote
##vote Vivax


I am not 100% sure Vivax is mafia. But I can sheep marv.

And TT is not going to get lynched. Even if he is mafia he can stay alive over a ton of other people.

I might lynch the evul Snowman. Maybe not. Dnu.
Can't say marv is "off" his play and then don't back it up at all. Ignores to talk about Vivax.




Everything written here is produced by the bird of skimming words.
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November 26 2015 18:10 GMT
#638
Ok now I got to play Diablo III for 20 minutes. I ll be useless today. Maybe also tomorrow. But after that, I will be totes good.

I will still read a lot though.

Also I am unlynchable.
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November 26 2015 18:11 GMT
#639
I can still read for an hour at least today. So I will be totally here.
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November 26 2015 18:27 GMT
#647
Ok. I am already back and read everything! Friend had to go eat... AND WE JUST FOUND A PURPLE GOBLIN AND HE BROUGHT US TO THE COWLVEL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Fuck yeah. Never been there before.

irrelevant news:
I might have been too quick on the Snowman accusations. I have no clue yet there.

Also I am nog going to meditate if we are lynching mafia, or the town that found all the mafia. Because that seems to happen 35% of the time.

It's like
15% mafia
35% town that found all mafia
50% some dumbwit
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November 26 2015 18:28 GMT
#651
Vivax

Can you explain to me why Chrom is mafia? It is like the one I don't really think is mafia. All the others I cba about atm if I have to be really honest here.
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November 26 2015 18:29 GMT
#653
On November 27 2015 03:27 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 27 2015 03:23 Chromatically wrote:
GB, is TT's post on FF still the reason why you're on him?


Yes.

And I can relate to Vivax when he says Tictock came back over-contributive

How the fuck can 1 over contribute?
Show me with a chain of posts. Did he repeat himself a lot or something?
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November 26 2015 18:33 GMT
#656
Ok. I may or may not have been too fast.
What Vivax says actually makes some sense.
It's not that TT his filter is so impressive.
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November 26 2015 18:36 GMT
#658
On November 27 2015 03:31 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 27 2015 03:28 Koshi wrote:
Vivax

Can you explain to me why Chrom is mafia? It is like the one I don't really think is mafia. All the others I cba about atm if I have to be really honest here.


See, this is precisely why I cba to mention everyone I'm scumreading besides my strongest scumread, it leads to shitty questions like these and is the reason I should just shut up about my thoughts.

I want to lynch TT today and I cba to answer anything about marv or Chrom. No,I won't answer, gtfo.

I just want to see if you have anything smart to say or just gave an extra name and are basically bullshitting.

When you answer like this... I am going for bullshitting.


Why Chrom?
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November 26 2015 18:37 GMT
#659
When I am mafia I also make 1 case on somebody, sometimes it even sounds believable. But 2-3? That is hard work.
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November 26 2015 18:40 GMT
#662
On November 27 2015 03:37 Tictock wrote:
Sure, first I'm scum because I make a post that's not coming to a solid conclusion, not advancing the game.

Now I'm scum for contributing too much to the game.

I take it I should be silent unless spoken to then?

It's that you have scumreads on all the people scumreading you, and then hard townread all the people who were on the fence.
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November 26 2015 18:42 GMT
#664
On November 27 2015 03:40 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 27 2015 03:37 Tictock wrote:
Sure, first I'm scum because I make a post that's not coming to a solid conclusion, not advancing the game.

Now I'm scum for contributing too much to the game.

I take it I should be silent unless spoken to then?

It's that you have scumreads on all the people scumreading you, and then hard townread all the people who were on the fence.

Chrom, GB and Vivax said the exact same thing about you, and then in your comeback post you call those 3 the most scummy... Jumped on Vivax, said something about GB being too disruptive, and then Chrom is the guy on everybody his scumlist but no reasons ever are given.


Chrom is probably mafia and ends up on his buddies their list )
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November 26 2015 18:43 GMT
#665
On November 27 2015 03:42 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 27 2015 03:36 Koshi wrote:
On November 27 2015 03:31 Vivax wrote:
On November 27 2015 03:28 Koshi wrote:
Vivax

Can you explain to me why Chrom is mafia? It is like the one I don't really think is mafia. All the others I cba about atm if I have to be really honest here.


See, this is precisely why I cba to mention everyone I'm scumreading besides my strongest scumread, it leads to shitty questions like these and is the reason I should just shut up about my thoughts.

I want to lynch TT today and I cba to answer anything about marv or Chrom. No,I won't answer, gtfo.

I just want to see if you have anything smart to say or just gave an extra name and are basically bullshitting.

When you answer like this... I am going for bullshitting.


Why Chrom?


Cause I just played with him when he was town in the game BH won and he feels different. Fake contributive, opportunistic. I scumread him and marv when marv asked him something and he answered it or the other way around, I don't remember exactly. But it's more a tonish/feelish read, not really anything I can justify with specific content, except for one thing: He has been maneuvering around TT while agreeing on him with me and GB, at least around the time we posted against TT.

Precisely how I'd see him bussing TT. Do you see any intention of him wanting to lynch TT while saying he agreed with the arguments????

Marv was also really silent around the time the TT thing got started.

Now what really matters for me is:

Do you think TT had any reason to agree with SL on FF if you look back to it except to not piss him off? I don't. It's obvious he only agreed with him for the sake of agreeing (who doesn't like people who agree with you?), since afterwards FF didn't mean jack to him except when marv asked him about it.

Hmm. What if we lynch Chrom?
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November 26 2015 18:43 GMT
#666
Nobody likes Chrom. Yet nobody votes him.

Perfect mafia.
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November 26 2015 18:44 GMT
#667
Chrom and OO

My 2 mafia tbh.
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November 26 2015 18:45 GMT
#668
##unvote
##vote: Chromatically
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November 26 2015 18:46 GMT
#669
Now I go read Marv his filter and see how much he talks about Chrom.
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November 26 2015 18:49 GMT
#670
I don't think marv knows Chrom is in the game.

On November 27 2015 00:01 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 27 2015 00:00 Vivax wrote:
I've also having a team of chrom/marv/TT in the back of my head since around yesterday but I refrained from posting it for post game cred to avoid chaos. Best course of action is keep calm and lynch TT.

But now that marv pokes my sore butt with his vote I'll join the Koshi revolution if it gets to it.

not sure how you can believe any of this?

explain yourself.

all of it.

now.


On November 27 2015 00:31 marvellosity wrote:
the problem is, TT has produced the most content by far and you're not evaluating any of it, you're just stuck on one post from earlier that you sheeped off

you also casually drop this "marv (and tt, chrome) for endgame credit" which i find totally unbelievable.

Specifically "to avoid chaos" ?

The game is SO. GOD. DAMN. SLOW. what fucking chaos? the game could DO with some chaos. I don't think you think any of it, I think you just wrote it to bullshit.

ergo you are mafia




5 pages.
0 Chrom mentions
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November 26 2015 18:50 GMT
#671
God damnit. TT and Vivax... I don't know about either.

OO did nothing, made 1 big post, somewhat a smart mafia post. Chrom is actually the one who points out what is wrong with it. My first reaction to OO his posts was positive, but after reading Chrom his reply I actually switched my opinion.

Maybe we should lynch OO?
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November 26 2015 18:52 GMT
#672
I mean.... Chrom & OO are getting after each other quite openly. Are we paying attention to this? It is odd no?

Look at that superweak Chrom read.

On November 25 2015 12:23 ObviousOne wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 25 2015 11:30 GlowingBear wrote:
Cool, some weak early reads:

Koshi looks townie for his tone. Especially when he makes the post of the town pyramid and the following one.

Chrom looks townie for thinking critically about the game.

SL looks scummy for this hard push on FF on a matter that isn't really alignment indicative.

Tictock looks scummy for commenting that SL may have a point but concluding that FF's thing isn't alignment indicative. If SL does have a point then it is alignment indicative. If it isn't alignment indicative, SL doesn't have a point. Therefore you just look you're posting to look contributive while actually being fluffy and pushing the matter nowhere

koshi just being koshi but good on you for tone read stuff

sounds really generous towards chrom but i thought we were still fucking around mb you are right

agree on sl

only negative vibe i have about ticktock so far is the helpful townie post "i'm here to help" or whatever it was, your point by itself isn't necessarily hard evidence given how little has gone down so far

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November 26 2015 19:23 GMT
#676
So is this Chrom thing happening?
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November 26 2015 19:24 GMT
#677
I am currently disappointing 1 guy playing Diablo for another guy playing DotA. This is sick stuff. I am too busy to pay attention to this game. Even though I am probably the rightest and most righteous player in this game.
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November 26 2015 19:24 GMT
#678
sick = sad
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November 26 2015 19:25 GMT
#679
For me Chrom is a good lynch. Vivax and TT might have 1 mafia in them.
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November 26 2015 19:26 GMT
#680
Somewhere I feel marv is more likely town than Vivax. And Vivax and TT are like even to me.
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November 26 2015 20:02 GMT
#684
On November 27 2015 04:58 Tictock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 27 2015 04:23 Koshi wrote:
So is this Chrom thing happening?


Your going to have to do a little more to convince me than him showing up in several lists.

You think he is town? Explain this to me?
You were the one saying he was mafia not so long ago, and now you want me to make the holy grail case and prove without a doubt Chrom is mafia?


lol
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November 26 2015 20:13 GMT
#690
Compare Vivax play to Chrom play?

Vivax has somewhat of a clue on what is happening. He is (might be) trying to solve the game and by doing that he pissed of marv saying dumb shit but is that mafia alignment?
Chrom is way more passive. Way more prudent. Is not seeking any conflicts. Has pushed 1 person. I actually misread his opinion on TT in the start. It was actually more like "I see what you mean, repeat what somebody else said"

Chrom has way more of those really unspoken reads:
On November 25 2015 12:42 Chromatically wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 25 2015 12:27 ANickelDrink wrote:
like if it's not alignment indicative then he can't really push the discussion anywhere since there's nowhere for it to go.

If he had just said "I see what you mean but..." instead of "You have a point" it would be saying the same thing, no?

besides he actually said
On November 25 2015 09:04 Tictock wrote:

Gunna put this down as slightly suspect but possibly NAI for now.

I guess my problem with the post is more of the fact that it says nothing at all in so many lines. It's not so much that it's a contradiction -> "gg ez scum", but more of the fact that he says "you might have a point" and then waffles for a while and then says "possibly NAI".

That is mafia knowing he is talking bullshit and then goes "I guess it could be this" (but in practice he knows it isn't)


On November 25 2015 12:37 Chromatically wrote:
sicklucker I'm not sure about. I agree he could be mafia for his push over something which I agree wasn't alignment indicative, but I liked that he didn't back down about it when he came under pressure.

Ticktock I agree with your point, plus he just kind of came in and posted those non-opinions on FF and then peaced out.

Koshi I don't have a read on.

Look at how he talks about sl, same shit again: I can see your point BUT yabbyabbayabba. A townie would not always see 2 sides of the story like Chrom seems to do. Especially at the start of the game.


dnu, looks like he is pushing an agenda with the TT/Vivax stuff as well. Suddenly he jumps on that topic and NOTHING IS LEFT ABOUT HIS OO READ? He doesn't even mention it.

Just quickly trows some dirt on Marv.

WHICH MARV FUCKING IGNORED CUZ MARV IGNORED CHROM THE ENTIRE GAME.
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November 26 2015 20:14 GMT
#692
On November 27 2015 05:07 boxerfred wrote:
I caught tonsillitis and am lying in my bed with fever. can't really play. voting vivax to not get modkilled, maybe I'll feel better in a few days once antibiotics kick in. srorry.

##vote Vivax

BOXERFRED. PLEASE DO NOT LYNCH VIVAX. I DO NOT BELIEVE IN THAT LYNCH

Please vote Chrom.


I really see a Chrom/marv/TT and somebody scumteam.



FUCKING VIVAX IS PROBABLY RIGHT.
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November 26 2015 20:15 GMT
#693
Fucking MAFIA IS GUNNING FOR VIVAX BECAUSE HE IS ON THE RIGHT TRACK
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November 26 2015 20:16 GMT
#695
Marv, TT

Do not be offended if you by accident are not mafia. I am just saying that the scumteam from Vivax is not that farfetched. Maybe it is completely wrong. But I can see it possible that a townie could think it.
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November 26 2015 20:16 GMT
#696
On November 27 2015 05:15 Sn0_Man wrote:
there's only 3 scum i think

I meant those 3 or somebody swapped in etc etc.
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#697
On November 27 2015 05:15 Sn0_Man wrote:
there's only 3 scum i think

Lets get this Chrom thing going? You in bro?
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November 26 2015 20:17 GMT
#698
Like.. Chrom/marv scumteam is very possible.
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November 26 2015 20:18 GMT
#700
I think TT is town btw. Chrom kinda called him town.
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November 26 2015 20:19 GMT
#702
On November 27 2015 05:17 Tictock wrote:
I don't get where your hard stance against a Vivax lynch is coming from here Koshi?

Where is the Vivax fucking lynch coming from? He pissed of marv and everybody sucking marv his dick? Why is Vivax being lynched? He made enough posts by now.
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November 26 2015 20:20 GMT
#703
YOU THINK I AM SUDDENLY MAFIA???????????????????????????????

AND VIVAX IS MY SCUMBUDDY??????????????????

AND I AM HARDDEFENDING HIM.???????????????????



lololol0lololol0lololol0lololol0lololol0lololol0lololol0lololol0
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#705
Yeah, now we are somewhere in the area of you being really bad or mafia.
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#706
On November 27 2015 05:20 Sn0_Man wrote:
koshi i don't hate the scumteam ur talking i just don't see ironclad reasons and WAGON OF JUSTICE is not my idea of a day 1 plan

Hmmmm. ok. So vivax is highest bet mafia for you?
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#709
On November 27 2015 00:00 Vivax wrote:
I've also having a team of chrom/marv/TT in the back of my head since around yesterday but I refrained from posting it for post game cred to avoid chaos. Best course of action is keep calm and lynch TT.

But now that marv pokes my sore butt with his vote I'll join the Koshi revolution if it gets to it.

Like this is not the worst post.

Marv jumps on it without asking about his Chrom read. WHICH IS ODD. Just hard pushes the TT thing. And the Chaos thing. Really simple shit.


On November 27 2015 00:39 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 27 2015 00:34 marvellosity wrote:
also sicklucker's point about the Tictock wagon wasn't bad in any way, and the way you dismissed it smells horrible.

the game is really slow. the tictock wagon has been rumbling for... however long? mafia just give up on a player based on one post and nothing? how often do you see votes just pile up on mafia day 1 while nothing else is happening?

it doesn't make tictock "confirmed town" like sl says, but you know how sl talks. The point he raises has merit though and the way you dismissed it looks rubbish


It's funny you say that while trying to lynch me when I think you're mafia. From my perspective your point has no validity.

Chrom has been repeating how he agreed with the points on TT but kept pushing other stuff.

Again. A point brought up on Chrom. And totally ignored.
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#710
On November 27 2015 05:20 Sn0_Man wrote:
koshi i don't hate the scumteam ur talking i just don't see ironclad reasons and WAGON OF JUSTICE is not my idea of a day 1 plan

ahh you are not voting yet. Hmm. We need to get marv or Chrom tbh.
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November 26 2015 20:25 GMT
#711
Hmm but not marv I guess?????

The longer I look at Vivax filter the more it looks like it maybe could be town Vivax.
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November 26 2015 20:27 GMT
#712
On November 26 2015 02:10 Chromatically wrote:
I'm totally alright with having a wagon on TicTock.

marv makes me a bit uncomfortable for now but I feel like that will become clearer with time.

What is this even? This posts makes no sense for somebody on OO.

this post is on page 2. AFTER he voted on OO, went away, and came back.
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#713
On November 27 2015 03:28 Chromatically wrote:
Well, I have to go for thanksgiving festivities and I don't think I'll be back before deadline. I feel good about a Vivax lynch for the reasons I said before, and I don't see how he can possibly be so sure on TT over essentially one post.

##Unvote
##Vote: Vivax

Happy thanksgiving everyone!


red: I will be back if it fits my mafia agenda.
bolded: Chrom was ok with a TT lynch...... Why can't Vivax be sure? This is how you push people D1. You push em and try to get them lynched.


Chrom suspect list:

OO
TT
Marv

And then he sheeps marv and TT onto Vivax?????????????????????
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November 26 2015 20:30 GMT
#714
ARE YOU FUCKERS ALL AFK??????????????
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November 26 2015 20:31 GMT
#715
Chrom just fucking voted Vivax because he was "too sure" with his 2 scumreads.
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November 26 2015 20:32 GMT
#716
Well. I am back to Diablo III.


But this lynch is pure sadness.
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November 26 2015 20:32 GMT
#717
Chrom and marv are going to pay for this.


And I am dieing N1.
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November 26 2015 20:53 GMT
#725
Marv,

Is there by any chance a possibility you can write the word: Chromatically
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November 26 2015 20:54 GMT
#726
On November 27 2015 05:53 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 27 2015 03:42 Vivax wrote:
On November 27 2015 03:36 Koshi wrote:
On November 27 2015 03:31 Vivax wrote:
On November 27 2015 03:28 Koshi wrote:
Vivax

Can you explain to me why Chrom is mafia? It is like the one I don't really think is mafia. All the others I cba about atm if I have to be really honest here.


See, this is precisely why I cba to mention everyone I'm scumreading besides my strongest scumread, it leads to shitty questions like these and is the reason I should just shut up about my thoughts.

I want to lynch TT today and I cba to answer anything about marv or Chrom. No,I won't answer, gtfo.

I just want to see if you have anything smart to say or just gave an extra name and are basically bullshitting.

When you answer like this... I am going for bullshitting.


Why Chrom?


Cause I just played with him when he was town in the game BH won and he feels different. Fake contributive, opportunistic. I scumread him and marv when marv asked him something and he answered it or the other way around, I don't remember exactly. But it's more a tonish/feelish read, not really anything I can justify with specific content, except for one thing: He has been maneuvering around TT while agreeing on him with me and GB, at least around the time we posted against TT.

Precisely how I'd see him bussing TT. Do you see any intention of him wanting to lynch TT while saying he agreed with the arguments????

Marv was also really silent around the time the TT thing got started.

Now what really matters for me is:

Do you think TT had any reason to agree with SL on FF if you look back to it except to not piss him off? I don't. It's obvious he only agreed with him for the sake of agreeing (who doesn't like people who agree with you?), since afterwards FF didn't mean jack to him except when marv asked him about it.


Ok I think you're town

[b]##Unvote
##Vote: Tictock[/b{

WHY TICKTOCK. CHROM IS SO MUCH BETTER............. HE IS DOING NOTHING
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#727
w.e

you all don't deserve my presence.
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#765
On November 27 2015 06:13 ANickelDrink wrote:
Koshi can you point out things I've missed on chrome?

-Tictock avoids talking about him even though he does the same thing as GB and vivax

-marv doesn't talk about chrome

-OO gives chrome an easy town read? More of an agreement with GB

-your scumteam in marv/TT/chrome are all on vivax

-Chrome votes with two of his suspects


That's not a bad list tbh but I think it relies too heavily on association.

I'm more uncomfortable about BF being on vivax than anything at this point


On November 27 2015 05:13 Koshi wrote:
Chrom has way more of those really unspoken reads:
Show nested quote +
On November 25 2015 12:42 Chromatically wrote:
On November 25 2015 12:27 ANickelDrink wrote:
like if it's not alignment indicative then he can't really push the discussion anywhere since there's nowhere for it to go.

If he had just said "I see what you mean but..." instead of "You have a point" it would be saying the same thing, no?

besides he actually said
On November 25 2015 09:04 Tictock wrote:

Gunna put this down as slightly suspect but possibly NAI for now.

I guess my problem with the post is more of the fact that it says nothing at all in so many lines. It's not so much that it's a contradiction -> "gg ez scum", but more of the fact that he says "you might have a point" and then waffles for a while and then says "possibly NAI".

That is mafia knowing he is talking bullshit and then goes "I guess it could be this" (but in practice he knows it isn't)


Show nested quote +
On November 25 2015 12:37 Chromatically wrote:
sicklucker I'm not sure about. I agree he could be mafia for his push over something which I agree wasn't alignment indicative, but I liked that he didn't back down about it when he came under pressure.

Ticktock I agree with your point, plus he just kind of came in and posted those non-opinions on FF and then peaced out.

Koshi I don't have a read on.

Look at how he talks about sl, same shit again: I can see your point BUT yabbyabbayabba. A townie would not always see 2 sides of the story like Chrom seems to do. Especially at the start of the game.


dnu, looks like he is pushing an agenda with the TT/Vivax stuff as well. Suddenly he jumps on that topic and NOTHING IS LEFT ABOUT HIS OO READ? He doesn't even mention it.



What is your opinion on this?
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November 26 2015 21:32 GMT
#767
Yeah chrom is not happening. Great.
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November 26 2015 21:46 GMT
#777
On November 27 2015 06:43 ANickelDrink wrote:
You're correct sn0 I never said that in as many words.

Show nested quote +
On November 27 2015 06:30 Koshi wrote:
On November 27 2015 06:13 ANickelDrink wrote:
Koshi can you point out things I've missed on chrome?

-Tictock avoids talking about him even though he does the same thing as GB and vivax

-marv doesn't talk about chrome

-OO gives chrome an easy town read? More of an agreement with GB

-your scumteam in marv/TT/chrome are all on vivax

-Chrome votes with two of his suspects


That's not a bad list tbh but I think it relies too heavily on association.

I'm more uncomfortable about BF being on vivax than anything at this point


On November 27 2015 05:13 Koshi wrote:
Chrom has way more of those really unspoken reads:
On November 25 2015 12:42 Chromatically wrote:
On November 25 2015 12:27 ANickelDrink wrote:
like if it's not alignment indicative then he can't really push the discussion anywhere since there's nowhere for it to go.

If he had just said "I see what you mean but..." instead of "You have a point" it would be saying the same thing, no?

besides he actually said
On November 25 2015 09:04 Tictock wrote:

Gunna put this down as slightly suspect but possibly NAI for now.

I guess my problem with the post is more of the fact that it says nothing at all in so many lines. It's not so much that it's a contradiction -> "gg ez scum", but more of the fact that he says "you might have a point" and then waffles for a while and then says "possibly NAI".

That is mafia knowing he is talking bullshit and then goes "I guess it could be this" (but in practice he knows it isn't)


On November 25 2015 12:37 Chromatically wrote:
sicklucker I'm not sure about. I agree he could be mafia for his push over something which I agree wasn't alignment indicative, but I liked that he didn't back down about it when he came under pressure.

Ticktock I agree with your point, plus he just kind of came in and posted those non-opinions on FF and then peaced out.

Koshi I don't have a read on.

Look at how he talks about sl, same shit again: I can see your point BUT yabbyabbayabba. A townie would not always see 2 sides of the story like Chrom seems to do. Especially at the start of the game.


dnu, looks like he is pushing an agenda with the TT/Vivax stuff as well. Suddenly he jumps on that topic and NOTHING IS LEFT ABOUT HIS OO READ? He doesn't even mention it.



What is your opinion on this?

I see what you mean. I think your first point about him knowing he's talking shit is a better point than him having seen both sides of the story in your second quote. I get that townies don't have info and seeing both sides of the story could be born of extra info but just that he is considering both sides isn't scum indicative imo.

His dropping of OO is kinda odd but it's not like OO is being at all consequential this game. His vote in on a plynch AFKer and he hasn't really brought anything to the table. Either chrome forgot about him or I see your point about those two being partners.

I have to go to work and I start exatcly at deadline.

Koshi you and your 8 page filter have my sword.

##unvote
##vote chromatically


For all the good it will do anyway

It won't do shit bro. We need to pick between Vivax and TT.

I LITERALLY CANNOT PICK BETWEEN THEM
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November 26 2015 21:50 GMT
#784
I am going to go with marv. It is completely ridiculous but maybe Vivax knows some shit. For me Chrom is 100% mafia.


##unvote
##vote Vivax


Like Marv is right and we lynch mafia. Or he is wrong and Vivax is town and we cross the marv bridge tomorrow. Vivax being town will make me hunt Chrom/TT/Marv like a motherfucker.
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November 26 2015 21:51 GMT
#786
Yeah and I am now in diablo III.
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November 26 2015 22:03 GMT
#802
Yeah this was bullshit. Should have went something else.
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November 26 2015 22:05 GMT
#805
I agree that voting with chrom is shit. Was completely retarded. Ugh I don't even know why.

Anyway. It is Chrom/TT and something else. Only iff TT is mafia lol.
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November 26 2015 22:05 GMT
#806
Like.. Maybe we are completely wrong. It's ok. It's ok.
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November 26 2015 22:06 GMT
#807
afk now. Fuck.
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November 26 2015 22:08 GMT
#809
Marv is laughing so hard now. We probably lynched the guy who named the 3 mafia.
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November 26 2015 22:08 GMT
#810
I did that.... I knew it. Why am I so fucking retarded.
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November 26 2015 22:08 GMT
#811
Fuck me.

that's all.
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November 27 2015 12:22 GMT
#853
1) I hope marv isn't mafia
2) I hope Chrom is mafia
3) I hope TT isn't mafia

If 2/3 are correct I am not too devestated.
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November 27 2015 12:23 GMT
#854
Like a team as Chrom/OO/Evil snowman is still possible. And then we got Onegu/boxerfred/scott as replacements.
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November 27 2015 12:24 GMT
#855
I have no filters here, but I think they could be mafia. bf would play mafia pretty hilariously though.
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November 27 2015 12:47 GMT
#868
On November 27 2015 21:45 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 27 2015 21:34 marvellosity wrote:
On November 27 2015 21:31 GlowingBear wrote:
On November 27 2015 19:26 marvellosity wrote:
i really don't think Koshi is mafia though, GB.


If TT flips red, I will have a bad time believing this

hopefully i'll be around to stop you then

although i get what you're saying, i don't really believe it


Stop me from lynching who? Koshi or TT?

Because I think that nobody {Koshi} that votes with his scumread {Chrom} and kills a guy that had the exact scumteam as him {Vivax} and let's the Mafia counterwagon to survive {TT} (even tho this very second wagon {TT} has been refused to be voted by the main scumread{Chrom}) should be spared.

Poorly phrased but my bad english isn't on the level where explain this properly, sorry.

In my defense:

I was play Diablo III, Dota 2 and nobody cared about my Chrom push.
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November 27 2015 12:52 GMT
#876
I will somehow try to explain my actions though, cuz in retrospect it was pretty retarded:

When Chrom didn't happen and the votes were 4 vs 4 I just looked at the names Vivax and TT and didn't look at who voted for them, even though I knew Chrom voted Vivax, I forgot it in the moment.

So I thought by myself, who should I kill? And I almost solely based me on the fact marv looked inexplicable townie enough to follow. Even though I yelled he was possible mafia for like a couple hours during the day. So in my head I believed that following marv would lead to more success than to follow the 4 guys on TT.

But like I said, my scumreads were more Chrom, maybe OO and then a shitton of others could be mafia, like TT. I was a HUGE DEFENDER of Vivax during the day as well, so why I voted him away... I don't know. It is almost solely based on the fact I wanted to give marv his flip and the fact TT and Vivax were equals to me in my head at that moment.


...

If TT is mafia and Vivax is town I look pretty bad. Totes agree.
But I wonder if I am lynchable in like 3 days if mafia keeps me alive.
Rarely is the case.
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November 27 2015 12:56 GMT
#877
Yes that is a good point by marv. I was actually trying to push people away from Vivax at some point, so if TT is mafia with me that would not be smart. I think at that point it was obvious my preference was Chrom > TT > Vivax. Even though I didn't talk at all about TT.
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November 27 2015 12:57 GMT
#878
My play actually doesn't make sense as either alignment. So most of the time I am town then.
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November 27 2015 12:58 GMT
#880
Koshi will be Koshi bois.

But seriously... marv can't be mafia or I will be sad.
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November 27 2015 13:19 GMT
#887
I shall read my own filter. It sounds interesting.
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November 27 2015 13:20 GMT
#888
nvm I can't here.
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November 27 2015 13:29 GMT
#890
btw. would be nice if people follow the game after they died for 1 more phase and give like a big post to try to help.
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November 27 2015 13:40 GMT
#896
I agree gb might be mafia.
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November 27 2015 13:41 GMT
#898
On November 27 2015 22:40 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 27 2015 22:29 Koshi wrote:
btw. would be nice if people follow the game after they died for 1 more phase and give like a big post to try to help.

i was gonna write some gay erotica

I can read between the lines.
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November 27 2015 14:15 GMT
#904
On November 27 2015 22:59 GlowingBear wrote:
Koshi why am I mafia?

Because you are way to final/certain in your posting already. If I had to give a reason. Too much drama? I can't nail it.

I am far from convinced TT is mafia. Could be though. I should really look who voted Vivax and at what times. Chrom/TT scumteam might be possible, Chrom did lose track of his own game (OO) and went for the vote on Vivax while he had TT and marv as suspicious.

So dnu. It is possible. It's not something I am going to be hunting any time soon. If TT flips mafia I am coolio, but if he will be able to proof himself coming days there is nothing much left of your play tbh.
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November 27 2015 14:17 GMT
#905
"not much left" might be an exaggeration. I don't really know your filter. Like... just from top of my head in 1 phrase:

It seems your play has a very distinct direction. While I don't see how that is possible this game.
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November 27 2015 14:17 GMT
#906
Would be impressive to push mafia agenda this hard though.
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November 27 2015 14:33 GMT
#909
On November 27 2015 06:47 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 27 2015 06:43 ANickelDrink wrote:
You're correct sn0 I never said that in as many words.

On November 27 2015 06:30 Koshi wrote:
On November 27 2015 06:13 ANickelDrink wrote:
Koshi can you point out things I've missed on chrome?

-Tictock avoids talking about him even though he does the same thing as GB and vivax

-marv doesn't talk about chrome

-OO gives chrome an easy town read? More of an agreement with GB

-your scumteam in marv/TT/chrome are all on vivax

-Chrome votes with two of his suspects


That's not a bad list tbh but I think it relies too heavily on association.

I'm more uncomfortable about BF being on vivax than anything at this point


On November 27 2015 05:13 Koshi wrote:
Chrom has way more of those really unspoken reads:
On November 25 2015 12:42 Chromatically wrote:
On November 25 2015 12:27 ANickelDrink wrote:
like if it's not alignment indicative then he can't really push the discussion anywhere since there's nowhere for it to go.

If he had just said "I see what you mean but..." instead of "You have a point" it would be saying the same thing, no?

besides he actually said
On November 25 2015 09:04 Tictock wrote:

Gunna put this down as slightly suspect but possibly NAI for now.

I guess my problem with the post is more of the fact that it says nothing at all in so many lines. It's not so much that it's a contradiction -> "gg ez scum", but more of the fact that he says "you might have a point" and then waffles for a while and then says "possibly NAI".

That is mafia knowing he is talking bullshit and then goes "I guess it could be this" (but in practice he knows it isn't)


On November 25 2015 12:37 Chromatically wrote:
sicklucker I'm not sure about. I agree he could be mafia for his push over something which I agree wasn't alignment indicative, but I liked that he didn't back down about it when he came under pressure.

Ticktock I agree with your point, plus he just kind of came in and posted those non-opinions on FF and then peaced out.

Koshi I don't have a read on.

Look at how he talks about sl, same shit again: I can see your point BUT yabbyabbayabba. A townie would not always see 2 sides of the story like Chrom seems to do. Especially at the start of the game.


dnu, looks like he is pushing an agenda with the TT/Vivax stuff as well. Suddenly he jumps on that topic and NOTHING IS LEFT ABOUT HIS OO READ? He doesn't even mention it.



What is your opinion on this?

I see what you mean. I think your first point about him knowing he's talking shit is a better point than him having seen both sides of the story in your second quote. I get that townies don't have info and seeing both sides of the story could be born of extra info but just that he is considering both sides isn't scum indicative imo.

His dropping of OO is kinda odd but it's not like OO is being at all consequential this game. His vote in on a plynch AFKer and he hasn't really brought anything to the table. Either chrome forgot about him or I see your point about those two being partners.

I have to go to work and I start exatcly at deadline.

Koshi you and your 8 page filter have my sword.

##unvote
##vote chromatically


For all the good it will do anyway


At least hammer Tictock first since if chrom is mafia you can associate him with Tictock and Vivax is probably town.

I totally understand why you are upset though. I do see the posts now but I actually kinda skimmed over them because I was so busy playing Diablo.

Let's say I shall not consider the option you are mafia till TT flipped. I will even respect and read all your opinions as it would come from town. And I will obviously follow you and lynch TT if it is ever close tomorrow. Xcept if it between Chrom and TT.
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Koshi
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November 27 2015 15:07 GMT
#920
Onegu his recent meta is that he really does nothing as town, and a bit more as mafia. But he probably is mafia to fuck me over once more.
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Koshi
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November 27 2015 15:08 GMT
#921
Chrom being green is a total joke though. Do you even know how he plays?
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November 27 2015 15:58 GMT
#932
It's funny that there is a 100% chance marv dies.
I can't get shit done.
GB has the worst town list since 2011.
Nobody else is town.
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Koshi
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November 27 2015 16:53 GMT
#939
On November 28 2015 01:08 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 28 2015 00:58 Koshi wrote:
It's funny that there is a 100% chance marv dies.
I can't get shit done.
GB has the worst town list since 2011.
Nobody else is town.


I bet I'm dead tonight unless scum team wants to WIFOM or the hidden mechanic messes the night kill up.

And this is why I think you are mafia.
I'll tell you.

You are very wrong about everything. Consider starting over entirely.
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Koshi
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November 27 2015 16:54 GMT
#940
That phrase is so annoying because you are so close minded already and we are 48 hours in the game.

I am dead or mafia wants to wifom......

hilarious.
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Koshi
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November 27 2015 17:01 GMT
#941
Anyway. GB/Marv/Koshi kinda have posted enough. Game is getting big for 0 reasons.

Like... If the mafia are still hiding they literally won't have anything to do if we keep rehearsing same shit and don't stay open for other possibilities. Which there are millions.

Case against TT:
1) Made a post that overexplained things? Vivax + GB jumped on it.
2) Tried to put effort into this game so he didn't get lynched. Then disappeared.


What kind of retarded case is that?
It is possible that he is mafia. The first thing is something that can happen, if I compare that post from TT with WHAT I FUCKING SAID ABOUT CHROM his post, then Chrom is way more mafia.
And the second looks worse. HOWEVER, there are a lot of fuckers who didn't even did anything yet. And maybe TT tried to put effort in because he is town and 4 people were voting him? Then he AFK'ed like the 6 other names we could sum up.


What the fuck did Chrom do?
1) Early game gave opinions on everything but was everybodies advocate.
2) Said OO could be mafia out of somewhat nowhere.
3) Said OO could be mafia for that big post he made.
4) Said marv and TT are suspicious and TT a fine lynch.
5) Voted with marv and TT on Vivax for a pretty lame reason.
6) Fucked off.

And that guy got a green read??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????




zomg omg wtf bbq
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Koshi
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November 27 2015 17:02 GMT
#942
So I started with saying we shouldn't rehearse things and then went after Chrom some more. Not bad.

Chrommie, my Baratheon Borther, try to play harder can you?
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Koshi
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November 27 2015 17:11 GMT
#946
Ok. You are a good guy Chrom. You might be town tbh. Just keep playing.
I don't know about this game.

Ugly lurkers.



Also i posted something stupid in the vote thread.... Dumbass that i am.
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Koshi
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November 27 2015 18:09 GMT
#955
On November 28 2015 03:06 Chromatically wrote:
Koshi
GB

marv

TT
FF
SL
scott
Onegu
BF

Sn0
OO

is about where I'm at. The whole middle section is kind of a mess but it's mostly in order.

This I could actually buy. Maybe we should lynch OO tomorrow. Pretty sure we should.
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November 27 2015 18:39 GMT
#962
On November 28 2015 03:25 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 28 2015 03:13 Chromatically wrote:
See GB I understand your frustration on Koshi's weird reads (believe me lol), but his lynch play is really bold if he's mafia. He was pushing against the Vivax lynch really hard (which doesn't make a lot of sense if mafia with TT) and as mafia I think he would be way more self-conscious over doing a 180 and voting with his scumread.


I think he might be pulling the too scum to be scum. Really. It's totally in the realm of possibilities.

I was dropping it until he came back and start DEFENDING Tictock and calling ME mafia. OMFG like I didn't need more fuel.

BTW, Koshi, why's marv town?

Try to read my posts.
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Koshi
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November 27 2015 18:40 GMT
#963
And look it up in my filter.
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November 27 2015 18:49 GMT
#965
No. ty.
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November 28 2015 00:19 GMT
#1046
RIP marv. At least 1 thing I had correct. So the Vivax lynch is "understandable".
TT not mafia pls.
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November 28 2015 00:23 GMT
#1047
On November 28 2015 06:41 ANickelDrink wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 27 2015 02:59 Koshi wrote:
Holy fuck TickTock and OO being bosses on page 24. Jeez.

I'll give you tictock going ham but this?

Show nested quote +
On November 26 2015 19:17 ObviousOne wrote:
+ Show Spoiler [rant as fuck] +
this feels like the slowest day 1 I've been a part of on this site in ages, if not ever. not for lack of posts but for lack of substance. i thought the wordy derpy phase we had at the start was indicative of a bunch of people who wanted to talk but that doesn't seem to be the case. this has led to an environment where the mafia don't have to post at all to blend in, because so few topics have been discussed. i know obviously i'm a part of this particular problem, but it's also become something of a systemic issue.

koshi who is arguably one of the greater forces in this game has it in his head that people will run his errands, which is fine as a character but is kind of silly to expect anyone to jump however high it is he expects. his effort to assert dominance can have subtle effects on the game. a sort of bystander effect where everyone who wants the same information might end up waiting for another person to do it, therefore nobody does it, and nothing is accomplished. the paradigm that comes along with setting himself up as the tip of the power pyramid which may or may no be in jest, i've played with koshi before and he's had a similar attitude about things. nobody wants or needs to challenge him so the whole thing is hollow anyway. like i said before, plenty of room in the shadows with the rest of us.

the issue with having marv in game is that everyone expects godly-play town or shitty-play mafia, when it's probably a bit of both that he's aiming for. posting less when town and slightly more than he feels comfortable with as mafia is how he gets to balance his play so he's not immediately outed when he's mafia. no idea what his alignment is and really nobody should care what he does until he, you know, does something. more useless conversation around this topic.


i have preconceptions about vivax that lead me to believe he is capable of much more but is phoning it in this game. i had the same feeling before in student mafia xv and he was town there, so it might be melding the town and mafia sides of his play or that might just be i need to lower my expectations considerably. the difference between marv and vivax is that i don't have any personal heuristics on how to read vivax whatsoever. fuck, in that student game he pretty much blew off all my questions and i was kinda miffed about the whole thing.

tictock still in my talent pool for today's lynch but not feeling it as strongly as others are, haven't really reviewed his recent posts but he's out of the top of the list for now

sn0 could be added to it i think, but that's a reflection of my thoughts regarding how things seem to usually go down when marv is in a game. i sort of like the idea he had to avoid starting a conflict with SL in favor of seeing tictock's response to his wagon. ugh but the smurf stuff and the marv stuff. icky mess.

boxer situation is hilarious but not gonna take him off my candidate list for today.

fefe hasn't hit his stride yet or is mafia, don't know which.

as for scott, for some reason i have it in my mind that he just rarely actually participates (at least in games we're been in together, pretty sure he's been modkilled in one of them), and that's been when he was town. so i can't judge him based on his participation / engagement. can reflect on him if we find out for sure tictock's or maybe even GB's alignment.

feeling less good about SL but there seems to be the feeling of progression in his filter and i owe him a HJ for saving my life last game.

honestly i should just delete this instead of posting it but whatever

strongest to weakest feels regarding likelihood of mafianess
{boxer onegu} strongerest
{sn0 SL fefe} less stronk
{tictock scott vivax} middling
{everyone else}

oh look a pyramid scheme koshi wouldn't want to be at the top of, lel

i'm not locked into this vote but i better vote so i don't get rekt
between onegu and boxer i'm gonna go with the 'gu bc boxer made a funny

#vote: onegu

that's not really boss material imho

I know. I retracted that. I could actually vote with Chrom on OO.
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Koshi
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November 28 2015 00:26 GMT
#1048
I would have shot OO?
##Vote: ObviousOne

If it was near end of night and Chrom came back. I don't know. I just don't know.

I guess I could vote the snowman as well. Maybe let's start with that.

##unvote
##vote Snowman
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Koshi
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November 28 2015 00:28 GMT
#1049
I am just really annoyed by OO whining like a little bitch while he does nothing to solve the game.
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Koshi
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November 28 2015 17:25 GMT
#1076
scott might be pullinga BH.
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November 28 2015 17:33 GMT
#1078
those spirits might have a different QT for themselves in which they can vote, person with the most votes there gets another vote at the end of the day.

I have played in a game like that before. But there in the QT people could save a person from NK by voting.


That being said. I need to reread the game a bit. I have issues with GB but I might be wrong, people who tend to do a lot also tend to annoy me a lot, but they do a lot because they are town and want to solve the game. So... I don't know yet.

I am just waiting on The Clock to make a case on GB. Cuz the omgus is real.
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November 28 2015 17:36 GMT
#1079
I think voting the snowman is really the best bet here.
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November 28 2015 17:38 GMT
#1080
It is funny to read boxerfred and scott their 1 page filter.

I might be a bad person but I believe boxerfred "more". Might be they are both town though. Just dnu.

I also might be a bad player.
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Koshi
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November 28 2015 17:39 GMT
#1081
I could say something really mean about Onegu and him modkilling somebody for inactivity but I wont.
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November 28 2015 17:41 GMT
#1082
ANickelDrink

This person might be mafia. Isn't doing that much and COULND'T CARE LESS about who got lynched. When he said he voted because "shenannies could happen" IT WAS 100% OBVIOUS it would not happen.

If TT is town like he claims. He should look at this person instead of giving fefe a freaking free pass as top town.
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November 28 2015 17:43 GMT
#1083
On November 28 2015 06:24 ANickelDrink wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 27 2015 00:31 marvellosity wrote:
the problem is, TT has produced the most content by far and you're not evaluating any of it, you're just stuck on one post from earlier that you sheeped off

you also casually drop this "marv (and tt, chrome) for endgame credit" which i find totally unbelievable.

Specifically "to avoid chaos" ?

The game is SO. GOD. DAMN. SLOW. what fucking chaos? the game could DO with some chaos. I don't think you think any of it, I think you just wrote it to bullshit.

ergo you are mafia

lol I know this is on vivax but it makes so much sense. Which makes me worry that marv is doing the thing where he's good at mafia...

Where did I put my foil..

Like... how do you not vote Vivax then?
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November 28 2015 17:44 GMT
#1084
On November 27 2015 06:20 ANickelDrink wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 27 2015 06:18 Sn0_Man wrote:
I'd like to lynch scum as much as the next guy, I just don't have any confidence that anybody else is particularly more likely to flip scum than tictock either.

In general I have a very low level of confidence in andybody flipping scum day 1

Man if sn0 is scum this gives me the worst feelings of all his posts.


weird post as well.


##unvote
##vote ANickelDrink
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Koshi
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November 28 2015 17:45 GMT
#1085
Yeah there is something inside me saying I am wrong about scott and bf. I don't know why.
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Koshi
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November 28 2015 17:46 GMT
#1086
Also, Mr Evul Snowman, your time to shine.

If by accident you are not mafia, which I very much can't see even though I am voting fefe, a scumteam TT/fefe/OO or a 1 pager might be possible.
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Koshi
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November 28 2015 17:49 GMT
#1087
On November 29 2015 02:44 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 27 2015 06:20 ANickelDrink wrote:
On November 27 2015 06:18 Sn0_Man wrote:
I'd like to lynch scum as much as the next guy, I just don't have any confidence that anybody else is particularly more likely to flip scum than tictock either.

In general I have a very low level of confidence in andybody flipping scum day 1

Man if sn0 is scum this gives me the worst feelings of all his posts.


weird post as well.


##unvote
##vote ANickelDrink

Let me expand on this. This is a really weird post if TT and Vivax are town and this happened when they were both the wagons.

It smells of TMI.


I didn't check though. On its own it is a really weird post as well. A townie would maybe try to engage Snow? See what he means? Try to trap the snowman?



Might be mafia on mafia. Finding a normal post weird because of TMI as well.




Weird fucking post.
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Koshi
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November 28 2015 17:51 GMT
#1088
That's all for me. I wont always have computer access from now on till 2-3ish hours before deadline. So if I say stuff it wont be quoted. Might have pc access a bit though. Depends.
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Koshi
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November 28 2015 17:55 GMT
#1089
Yeah it really pisses me off fefe didn't vote for either vivax or TT, and then buddied me and voted for Chrom, seems so much like a mafia knowing his vote doesn't mean shit anyway, laughing his way to the bank.
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Koshi
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November 28 2015 20:01 GMT
#1102
I trust you my townie friends.
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November 29 2015 15:56 GMT
#1140
TT unlynchable. Chrom and OO no clue atm. Bit in favor of Chrom cuz OO decided to do nothing but whine and bitch. Havent read chrom defense though. Probably big in favor of Chrom.

Snowman is giving us nothing to work with.... Think I will lynch him so we dont lose vs an afk scumteam.
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Koshi
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November 29 2015 19:22 GMT
#1172
I am super tempted to just even this out and let marv choose.

lol.
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November 29 2015 19:23 GMT
#1174
BTW. I just remembered something.

Snowman NEVER PLAYS in the weekend. Either alignment.

I don't exactly know why, but it has been like this since forever.
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November 29 2015 19:24 GMT
#1175
On November 30 2015 04:23 sicklucker wrote:
and how would you do that

make it 3-3?
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November 29 2015 19:25 GMT
#1176
I also hope hosts wont modkill... This game kinda get ruined like that and I feel like modkilling for not voting is never something good. It is town their problem. Even if all modkills are mafia lol...
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November 29 2015 19:28 GMT
#1177
Snow, OO and fefe could all be mafia tbh.

I feel this is looking pretty good. Really sad about the afkers.
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November 29 2015 19:31 GMT
#1178
##unvote
##vote: ObviousOne


I am ok with letting snow play an actual day... Still feel he is mafia, because as town he would do more effort around his absence. But for not. OO.
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November 29 2015 19:53 GMT
#1181
evul vengeful spirits
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#1183
On November 30 2015 04:52 Sn0_Man wrote:
how come nobody want's to lynch sicklucker i dun get it oh well

Why are you not playing :'(

You promised to carry me.
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November 29 2015 19:57 GMT
#1186
On November 30 2015 04:54 Sn0_Man wrote:
weekend
plus i wanted to lynch marv but then he got nk'd

No internet, or not interested to play?
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November 29 2015 20:46 GMT
#1198
GB is never the lynch here.
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November 29 2015 20:47 GMT
#1199
On November 30 2015 05:37 Tictock wrote:
I'm back home, and should be around the rest of EoD.

Nothing from Sn0 is convincing me he is town, but something about how afk and dead this game has been today kinda makes me think mafia doesn't care if he gets lynched.

So, lets lynch GB!

##Vote: GlowingBear

This sounds extremely dumb.
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November 29 2015 20:49 GMT
#1201
On November 30 2015 05:47 Tictock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2015 05:46 Koshi wrote:
GB is never the lynch here.


Why not?

Because it is either OO or Snow. So unless you have reasons to believe both are town I don't see why we would lynch GB.
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November 29 2015 20:52 GMT
#1206
Yeah that case you made on GB has a lot of narrative in it. Doesn't make him mafia for being of opinion that sl is mafia for jumping on the ff thing... Then it makes him more mafia if he pulls that through to you and calls you mafia as well?

It's being consistent.


Him jumping around isn't general mafia either. Mafia has way more issues being a chicken without head all the time.
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November 29 2015 20:55 GMT
#1210
On November 30 2015 05:54 Tictock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2015 05:49 Koshi wrote:
On November 30 2015 05:47 Tictock wrote:
On November 30 2015 05:46 Koshi wrote:
GB is never the lynch here.


Why not?

Because it is either OO or Snow. So unless you have reasons to believe both are town I don't see why we would lynch GB.


I really don't like that reasoning. Why should we stick to the 2 lynches that have been slowly going all day that have gotten next to no reactions?

I feel like i have pretty good reasons for why GB is mafia here.

Check out my big case.

Nha. Like I said. I don't believe the case. I don't see why town wouldn't do most of the things you said there.
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November 29 2015 20:56 GMT
#1211
Like... Your case on GB is just a summary of all things he did, it's a lot of different things but at least it were things in a dead game.

You have to tell me why he did that as mafia. Not summarize what he did and say "well this is odd".
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November 29 2015 20:58 GMT
#1212
Like somewhere in that case you even say that mafia didn't have to do shit during EoD. Guess who did nothing?

Top 3 people up for lynch.
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November 29 2015 21:00 GMT
#1215
On November 30 2015 05:58 Tictock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2015 05:52 Koshi wrote:
Yeah that case you made on GB has a lot of narrative in it. Doesn't make him mafia for being of opinion that sl is mafia for jumping on the ff thing... Then it makes him more mafia if he pulls that through to you and calls you mafia as well?

It's being consistent.


Him jumping around isn't general mafia either. Mafia has way more issues being a chicken without head all the time.


For one, he's hardly been jumping around on his reads at all, besides one or two exceptions.

Second, he has hardly given any reasons for why he's changed his reads in the last day.

Like the fact that he only ever talks about my activity, but never the content I'm putting out past that one post he went off on D1. That's not a read, and activity is never a good way to make a read on people. You gotta compare activity with content.

It wasn't game breaking content you put out. And his case on you was that you just omgused all the people who had a scumread on you. Doing just enough work to not get lynched and then fucked off again.

Which could be true.

Like... I don't really hated the scumread on you back then.
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November 29 2015 21:01 GMT
#1217
On November 30 2015 06:00 ANickelDrink wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2015 05:52 Koshi wrote:
Yeah that case you made on GB has a lot of narrative in it. Doesn't make him mafia for being of opinion that sl is mafia for jumping on the ff thing... Then it makes him more mafia if he pulls that through to you and calls you mafia as well?

It's being consistent.


Him jumping around isn't general mafia either. Mafia has way more issues being a chicken without head all the time.

Talking about TT's case? I remember reading it last night and thinking it was ok... Was his conclusion really just that it's weird?

No. It is an ok first read. But nothing in it says:
GB did this because he is mafia, if he was town he would do Y.

It's more of a story of what GB did, and then find it odd to understand, then conclude it should be mafia GB.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
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November 29 2015 21:02 GMT
#1219
On November 30 2015 06:02 ANickelDrink wrote:
Have any of the lurkers provided any content yet? I haven't seen any

Nope
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Koshi
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November 29 2015 21:04 GMT
#1221
Yeah... If OO and snow are not mafia last lynches will be scott, bf and Onegu.

TT, GB, SL, fefe are getting unlynchable at this point.
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Koshi
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November 29 2015 21:05 GMT
#1222
and poor Chrom. + another who I am forgetting.
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Koshi
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November 29 2015 21:09 GMT
#1226
On November 30 2015 06:07 Tictock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2015 06:01 Koshi wrote:
On November 30 2015 06:00 ANickelDrink wrote:
On November 30 2015 05:52 Koshi wrote:
Yeah that case you made on GB has a lot of narrative in it. Doesn't make him mafia for being of opinion that sl is mafia for jumping on the ff thing... Then it makes him more mafia if he pulls that through to you and calls you mafia as well?

It's being consistent.


Him jumping around isn't general mafia either. Mafia has way more issues being a chicken without head all the time.

Talking about TT's case? I remember reading it last night and thinking it was ok... Was his conclusion really just that it's weird?

No. It is an ok first read. But nothing in it says:
GB did this because he is mafia, if he was town he would do Y.

It's more of a story of what GB did, and then find it odd to understand, then conclude it should be mafia GB.


The not understanding was not seeing how it made sense from town!GB.

Hmm. Not yet sure if town!GB is incapable of that.

In a game like this. Would mafia really be so active and insane that they "annoy" people with inconsistency?

They would be more like snow, OO, fefe etc I think? dnu
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Koshi
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November 29 2015 21:12 GMT
#1233
On November 30 2015 06:08 Tictock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2015 06:04 Koshi wrote:
Yeah... If OO and snow are not mafia last lynches will be scott, bf and Onegu.

TT, GB, SL, fefe are getting unlynchable at this point.


Yea I have really bad issues with this thinking.

You've got to at least consider the possibility of Scum being active, and town getting shit on with so many non-contributors.

I do. but I am going to lynch the non contributors who fake activity first. Well make the next days more pleasant than having to lynch GB now and then be stuck in a shitgame.

I am confident that if I give GB 3 more days I will be able to make a better judgment of his alignment. Which I wont be with people like OO, bf, snow, scott etcetc
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
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November 29 2015 21:14 GMT
#1235
It's a good question.

Give us a scumteam TT.

4 names. most likely mafia
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Koshi
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November 29 2015 21:23 GMT
#1242
On November 30 2015 06:19 Tictock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2015 06:14 Koshi wrote:
It's a good question.

Give us a scumteam TT.

4 names. most likely mafia


Without more info my reads are basically still the same as this post.

Show nested quote +
On November 28 2015 21:14 Tictock wrote:
Here is where I am at with this game atm, (things may change as I do filter dives and reread stuff today) listing strongest town to strongest scum

Town:
sicklucker
Koshi
ANickelDrink

Nullish:

ObviousOne
Chromatically + Show Spoiler +
Need to do a proper read on this guy

Onegu
boxerfred
scott31337

Scum:
GlowingBear + Show Spoiler +
Technically more of a scum lean, but strong enough to warrent being down here. Mostly due to his read progression not making much sense, I'll do a post dedicated to looking at GB later.

Sn0_Man


To do List for today:
- Filter dive and get a better read going on Chrom (His EoD felt pretty good to me, which is why he's moved up somewhat in my list from D1)
- Case on Sn0
- Try and put aside my OMGUS on GB and wade through his filter


And with the numerous inactive people and hardly any reads or info from the rest of you all I'm just about over this game.

Then let's just vote snow out?
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Koshi
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November 29 2015 21:25 GMT
#1244
On November 30 2015 06:24 Tictock wrote:
Throwing my vote back onto Sn0.

Guess we'll see how this goes, but my gut feeling is that town is pretty fucked this game.

I think these last post made you pretty mafia.

My townreads all do X, you seem to do Y.
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Koshi
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November 29 2015 21:26 GMT
#1245
Like how can your gut think we are fucked if we are voting away your biggest scumread (par gb)
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Koshi
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November 29 2015 21:28 GMT
#1250
On November 30 2015 06:26 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2015 06:20 GlowingBear wrote:
EBWOP:

If you don't have time to play the game and you don't wish to vote on people, why do you enter the voting thread right at the beginning of the day?


Please help me think this through

Good point tbh. Dnu. happens?
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Koshi
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November 29 2015 21:31 GMT
#1252
On November 30 2015 06:26 Tictock wrote:
Well Koshi I though Shenanigans would be appropriate for how dead the day has been, but you all have undefined hard townreads on GB

or like SL just feel like even if he's mafia he's not the lynch here

this just feels like D1 all over again to me

Both snow and OO need to go asap. This day has been pretty ok. Just sad 2 people are not playing at all and 2 are doing nothing townie in the few posts they made.

If we (aka town) lose this game because of that I am fine with it. If GB/Chrom/TT are mafia for instance, I am really fine with a loss.
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Koshi
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November 29 2015 21:40 GMT
#1256
On November 30 2015 06:34 Tictock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2015 06:31 Koshi wrote:
On November 30 2015 06:26 Tictock wrote:
Well Koshi I though Shenanigans would be appropriate for how dead the day has been, but you all have undefined hard townreads on GB

or like SL just feel like even if he's mafia he's not the lynch here

this just feels like D1 all over again to me

Both snow and OO need to go asap. This day has been pretty ok. Just sad 2 people are not playing at all and 2 are doing nothing townie in the few posts they made.

If we (aka town) lose this game because of that I am fine with it. If GB/Chrom/TT are mafia for instance, I am really fine with a loss.


The fact that you seem fine to just lynch through lurkers or inactive people and don't care if that looses town the game is going to make me really rethink my read on you after this lynch.

Plus I've never understood why you were so adamant that Vivax was town last EoD at first and then jumped on the lynch anyway.

I am just a better player than you are.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
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November 29 2015 21:54 GMT
#1269
On November 30 2015 06:50 Sn0_Man wrote:
still don't see how we could ever lynch me over onegu/boxer/scott but w/e

...
sad days bro.
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Koshi
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November 29 2015 21:54 GMT
#1270
sno can die. Literally did nothing ever.
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Koshi
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November 29 2015 21:54 GMT
#1271
I also believe it is more likely marv voted than Vivax.
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Koshi
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November 29 2015 21:56 GMT
#1274
On November 30 2015 06:55 Tictock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2015 06:50 Sn0_Man wrote:
still don't see how we could ever lynch me over onegu/boxer/scott but w/e


Imagine how Vivax feels getting lynched D1 over everyone else

SAYS THE GUY WHO WANTS TO LYNCH GB????????


HAHAHAHAHA

Fucking joke. That's what you are.
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Koshi
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November 29 2015 22:00 GMT
#1284
On November 30 2015 06:59 Tictock wrote:
Bah... this game

Yeah we are lynching your afk top scumread instead of your overactive top scumread.

The drama.
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Koshi
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November 29 2015 22:00 GMT
#1286
I am lynching TT all future days and afking while doing so.
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Koshi
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November 29 2015 22:01 GMT
#1288
snow still did nothing a mafia couldn't do.
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Koshi
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November 29 2015 22:02 GMT
#1294
oh well. Terrible play by those 2. Not even mad.

TT/OO etc are next.
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Koshi
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November 30 2015 03:14 GMT
#1313
Just go for OO next. Scum made it so that vote switch couldn't happen.
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Koshi
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November 30 2015 17:32 GMT
#1348
If I had to guess. Maybe GB, TT and then OO?
Not that I ever would lynch them.


We lost town. RIP.
We tried. (I think)
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Koshi
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November 30 2015 18:04 GMT
#1350
+1
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Koshi
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November 30 2015 20:15 GMT
#1351
I am actually serious about my team btw
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Koshi
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November 30 2015 20:16 GMT
#1352
1 off probably
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Koshi
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December 01 2015 03:22 GMT
#1405
Pretty nice save. I wonder why sl was shot and saved though. Maybe I ll check that later.
I like how TT is like outrageed by my scumteam and then proposes THE EXACT SAME scumteam only aith our names switched. And ofc pushes me :-D.

Dnu feel like I shoukd have taken the bullet if I was even remotely close to right.... or they medic dodged the shot (mafia knows mechanics), but then why was sl saved . Dnu. Got to think marv somehow had a plan.

I ll check it all later.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
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December 01 2015 03:39 GMT
#1406
Ohh I even misread his mafia team. Still...
GB TT mafia team would be hilarious. But very unlikely.

Dont see why OO is town for rehearsing something about d1.

I guess I am voting Onegu because this is getting really ridiculous. Really. I cant phantom this play as tow where you want to solve the game. So disrespecting towards all people actually trying... This is the true cancer of this site. Afkers and shitters. What is the fun if there are people like him in your game that you have to meta on the fact they do literally nothing. Really. You can be proud of a shittrash meta like that.

Scott same shit. But might be actually having problems? Ughhh is it so hard to properly explain your situation? Like... I thought we were playing a game that required you to be able to type up some words and make coherent sentences.

Boxerfred same shit as well. Sick or not. Trash of the earth for not caring enough to make a post.


But sl got actually saved.........


I cannot believe why I voted Detective Vivax away for TT btw... I blame you for that marv. Great thinker vs lunatic that wants to lynch me. Amazing if people might think I am mafia. But this tt person doesnt underdtand he needs to look for mafia motive and not "strange play". Oh well maybe one day he will learn.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
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December 01 2015 03:47 GMT
#1409
I wonder if I can break the game based on the fact sl got shot and not chrom. Because chrom was also in the clear atm...

Like... if we believe oo to be town, chrom is kinda auto mafia for me. Hmm maybe chrom is always auto mafia.

But why was sl shot... Got to look it all over. Wi do it. Got time maybe. No filters thiugh at work. Quite annoying.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
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December 01 2015 03:51 GMT
#1411
On December 01 2015 12:43 Chromatically wrote:
Koshi, can you explain your read progression on TT?

I ll go to my pc after this.
Hmm never had real sane scumread. But acted so insane abiut the snowlynch. Which wouldnt really be mafia tbh. It's just ........

Dnu. Like I said. Wouldnt lynch gb or tt.

I got to rethink and find the solution.

I am swimming atm. Trying to hit some thoughts and see what mames true sense.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
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December 01 2015 03:52 GMT
#1413
Onegu ciuld easily be mafia because he is following the game and knows this shitmeta on him is in our heads.
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Koshi
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December 01 2015 03:54 GMT
#1414
On December 01 2015 12:51 Chromatically wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2015 12:47 Koshi wrote:
I wonder if I can break the game based on the fact sl got shot and not chrom. Because chrom was also in the clear atm...

Like... if we believe oo to be town, chrom is kinda auto mafia for me. Hmm maybe chrom is always auto mafia.

But why was sl shot... Got to look it all over. Wi do it. Got time maybe. No filters thiugh at work. Quite annoying.

"chrom is so town he should have been shot"

"chrom is always mafia"

?

I ll explain it. Gtg pc. Couple minutes.
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Koshi
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December 01 2015 04:07 GMT
#1416
On December 01 2015 12:51 Chromatically wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2015 12:47 Koshi wrote:
I wonder if I can break the game based on the fact sl got shot and not chrom. Because chrom was also in the clear atm...

Like... if we believe oo to be town, chrom is kinda auto mafia for me. Hmm maybe chrom is always auto mafia.

But why was sl shot... Got to look it all over. Wi do it. Got time maybe. No filters thiugh at work. Quite annoying.

"chrom is so town he should have been shot"

"chrom is always mafia"

?

So basically I am now in believe that there is information around the shot on sl. Why was sl shot and not Koshi/GB or Chrom?
I was in no danger to be lynched, you were in no danger to be lynched, gb was in no real danger to be lynched (TT only)

So why should SL and not anybody else? Mafia had the win after 1 more ml if ghosts didn't save, so obviously their greed took over and they shot with a purpose. Now I wonder what that purpose is.


Now why are you mafia:
In my head OO is always mafia, but if he is, why wouldn't they shoot you? ofcourse... This is all wifom. But still. I am just not having enough people to call mafia atm.

Onegu. OO. Scott. But after that? I got to hit the active people. Who would be the first to go out? Who goes in?


I was not shot. Does that mean I am totally wrong on TT and GB? The first time I said it out of dumbness and because it is so odd that D1 GB pushed TT so hard, and then made so many association reads with TT during the night, and then D2 it was the other way around were TT was going FUCKING MENTAL even before snow flipped.

Like... GB called me mafia because I voted Vivax and not TT. And then TT calls me mafia for voting OO and telling him the GB lynch was completely out of reach D2.

dnu. Odd shit.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
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December 01 2015 04:10 GMT
#1417
On December 01 2015 12:54 ANickelDrink wrote:
I didn't want to say anything about it this game but it seems I'm going to.

Mafia is saving me for later, once again. The kill on SL was to incriminate me.

also

Show nested quote +
On December 01 2015 07:36 ANickelDrink wrote:
Oh shit that's dope

spirits making me actually give a shit about this game


*proceeds to play fallout 4 for 5 hours*

I'll get to it

They only needed 1 more misslynch after SL died. It would not have been you. You know this, so mafia did not kill SL to incriminate you because you were not going to be their game winning lynch.

Please actually play because the more people actual play, and with that I mean bring reasonable and interesting ideas forward, the least we got to worry about potential mafia and solve this fucking game.


The spirit really gave me hope again. Lost cancer to modkill and gained ml with save.

Good stuff.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
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December 01 2015 04:13 GMT
#1418
On November 30 2015 13:36 sicklucker wrote:
FF is lock mafia at this point I dont know why no one else sees it hes even more obvious then oo whos posts I dont really read.

The third would be a toss between gb and scott

On November 30 2015 13:31 sicklucker wrote:
onegu not voting probably makes him town sadly. Id say hes >50% town here

On November 30 2015 13:29 sicklucker wrote:
Like koshi and chrone I want to live in a world where the mafia team is 00 + two of ff/gb/scott onegu?

Not becuase I necessarily believe its that world but because its are only chance of winning

On November 30 2015 13:37 sicklucker wrote:
I dont know why onegu plays mafia but he never trys as town. As mafia im not sure but he brags hat hes good at it so I doubt he would play this bad

On November 30 2015 13:39 sicklucker wrote:
OO gb were both really defensive when I went after ff early if i recall. who else was?



Is this a chain of posts with a shitton of truth?
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Koshi
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December 01 2015 04:14 GMT
#1419
Fuck I kinda messed up the order of the posts. Watch out for the chronological order.

3 2 1 4 5
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Koshi
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December 01 2015 04:14 GMT
#1420
Is Chrom, SL, Koshi going to be the foundation of the Pyramid of Love?
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Koshi
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December 01 2015 04:16 GMT
#1421
Like... Mafia is following this game and ff must have sparked them.

It can be scumreads
but it can also be townreads that ff wouldn't lynch.
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Koshi
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December 01 2015 04:16 GMT
#1422
sl.. I mean sl.
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Koshi
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December 01 2015 04:17 GMT
#1423
On November 30 2015 13:39 sicklucker wrote:
OO gb were both really defensive when I went after ff early if i recall. who else was?

Maybe this lol? Is this the holy grail?
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
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December 01 2015 04:18 GMT
#1424
marv said to GB that SL and TT were never both mafia. I wondered why he died. Could be it.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
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December 01 2015 04:20 GMT
#1425
Yeah, GB tried to influence marv the entire night.

First tried to call me mafia --> marv smacked him away (and called me town btw, it is good to remember this)
Then tried to call both SL/TT mafia --> (marv smacked him away, didn't believe both would ever be mafia, and sl most likely town)


Must be annoying for a scum GB :D
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
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December 01 2015 04:22 GMT
#1426
Ok I think if I reread and totally try to imagine I am TT and I can confirm him as town, or at least see how all his post have a town flow in them, I think this game could be easily solved now.

and I am somewhat good in that.
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Koshi
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December 01 2015 04:24 GMT
#1428
On December 01 2015 13:22 GlowingBear wrote:
I'm lynching scott

##Vote:Scott

Btw something amazing happened to me but it will make me busy for a long time so I'll be less active from now on

You should use that amazingness to continue playing this amazing game of mafia.

Not afk out of it.
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Koshi
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December 01 2015 04:25 GMT
#1429
But I guess you would like to focus on the fun things in life and not this game in which your shot just got denied
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Koshi
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December 01 2015 04:35 GMT
#1433
I am excited to be here till D4 most likely.
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Koshi
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December 01 2015 04:36 GMT
#1435
I agree that FF should be first candidate after those 3. Like... It would make A LOT of sense he is mafia with 2 out of those 3.
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Koshi
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December 01 2015 04:36 GMT
#1436
Chrom you make perfect sense my town buddy.
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Koshi
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December 01 2015 04:37 GMT
#1437
I hope you are not just rehearsing what I said but I am sure you are not. mafia would jsut agree with me.


WELCOME TO THE PYRAMID OF LOVE.


Chrom is first member.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
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December 01 2015 04:38 GMT
#1438
I like this concept of hosting as well.

You got the blueroles, but not the retarded blue claims.


Fucking amazing.
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Koshi
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December 01 2015 04:40 GMT
#1439
okok

I am willing to think GB is town.

fefe Onegu scott and OO

We start there.
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Koshi
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December 01 2015 04:40 GMT
#1440
If i host a game. I am going to make the D1 lynch a parity cop.
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Koshi
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December 01 2015 04:42 GMT
#1442
truly brilliant new mechanic.
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Koshi
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December 01 2015 04:44 GMT
#1444
On December 01 2015 13:42 Chromatically wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2015 13:36 Koshi wrote:
I agree that FF should be first candidate after those 3. Like... It would make A LOT of sense he is mafia with 2 out of those 3.

Yeah, I think 2 out of OO/Onegu/scott pretty much have to be mafia (don't feel like it's three), plus one out of FF/GB makes a lot of sense as the team. Maybe OO + scott + FF makes sense? Probably getting too far ahead at this point.

YOU ARE WALKING IN THE BRIGHT LIGHT.
WELCOME TO THE ROAD OF ENLIGHTENMENT.
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Koshi
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December 01 2015 04:46 GMT
#1445
On December 01 2015 13:42 Chromatically wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2015 13:37 Koshi wrote:
I hope you are not just rehearsing what I said but I am sure you are not. mafia would jsut agree with me.


WELCOME TO THE PYRAMID OF LOVE.


Chrom is first member.

Thanks Koshi, it's a true honor to be here

It's Mr. Koshi for you.
This first mistake will be added to your monthly subscription fee.


I kid I kid

Welcome Brother Chromatically.


The House of Baratheon stands strong again.
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Koshi
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December 01 2015 04:50 GMT
#1447
:D
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Koshi
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December 01 2015 07:08 GMT
#1466
I agree that OO is most likely town for that one... Not sure. I didn't even read it. But now I understand why sl said he was town somewhere. Funny.
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Koshi
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December 01 2015 07:08 GMT
#1467
dnu. it's something stupid mafia might do. but seriously...
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Koshi
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December 01 2015 09:42 GMT
#1476
On December 01 2015 17:12 sicklucker wrote:
theres something bothering me that koshi said. he mentioned how gb was leading marv on to reads he wanted like me being scum. I remember him resisting that pretty hard before kind of agreeing and has never mentioned me again. Because I had the same thought

w0t?

What is bothering you exactly?
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Koshi
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December 01 2015 09:46 GMT
#1478
GB completely changed his reads after N1. dnu. TT made a big post on GB and GB backed off.
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Koshi
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December 01 2015 09:51 GMT
#1479
I need to mindmeld with TT first. After that I will look into GB... Kinda annoying to lynch him tbh.
I might chicken out on that lynch.
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Koshi
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December 01 2015 10:26 GMT
#1484
yeah ok TT is town. It's fine.
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Koshi
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December 01 2015 10:26 GMT
#1485
I will do the mindmeld thingie still though. When I find time and have fitlers.
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Koshi
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December 01 2015 13:06 GMT
#1492
I am missing the gay erotica novel.
It's an empty feeling.
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Koshi
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December 01 2015 13:07 GMT
#1493
Seeing what marv voted is pretty op though. I don't really think that is superbalanced.
The blue roles on dead are so cool though. So good.
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Koshi
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December 01 2015 15:26 GMT
#1498
On December 01 2015 23:48 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2015 19:26 Koshi wrote:
yeah ok TT is town. It's fine.


Why?

Why not?
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
December 01 2015 18:09 GMT
#1510
It's a bit different though. More certainty.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
December 01 2015 18:11 GMT
#1511
On December 02 2015 03:10 Koshi wrote:
##unvote
##vote ANickelDrink


Looks legit. Maybe dangerous though.

Should read that OO and GB defensive stuff and see if they might TMI fefe town.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
December 01 2015 18:11 GMT
#1512
Diablo III now though. And probably too long.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
December 02 2015 08:39 GMT
#1546
Day 3 is bussday anyway.
Paranoia is fine but I got to stick with what I know this game. Quick and dirty:

3. TicTock - Made some townie post. Enough to not be lynched over Onegu/OO/fefe/scott
4. Chromatically - Townmeld early D3, had him as mafia D1 but he showed town and I don't think he buddied me
6. Onegu - If this guy is town, if, then I don't understand what he is doing. So he wants his meta to be this utter shit? I cannot believe it because than what is the fun in playing as mafia? Really. I cannot not lynch this guy down the pipeline. Meta or not. I really have problems with how he plays if he is town here. Like... on human levels.
8. ObviousOne - Dumbtell? Maybe, but can I lynch GB or TT over this guy?
9. GlowingBear - Great D1, marv had him as town, during night 1 fell off, never recovered. First of the active people I might consider.
10. ANickelDrink - Hasn't done shit, really hated his EoD1, hasn't done anything since, afk scumteam? We can't really not lynch him at this point tbh. He is like snow. Just vote away the cancer. If it is town... Nobody cares.
11. scott31337 - Doing nothing else than vote, again, I don't understand why he signs up for this game and he should be banned, this is not the standard of play I like to see on TL, what if there is more people like this in games? Well we found out with Onegu, boxerfred and scott. The game is not as fun like this... Just ban these people. This is not mafia, or it is, but not on TL standards, just vote this cancer away, I don't really care his alignment, I don't lose to mafia like this. I prefer to give a mafia who actually typed 1 sentence a win then to give this guy a win even though he is town with me. Pure fucking cancer.
13. sicklucker - conf town, why was he shot? Look my posts on that.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
December 02 2015 08:46 GMT
#1547
I got the pleasure to play with people I will dodge in future games, and everybody should just shoo away from this site. I will take this to some other thread or this thread after the game.

But is there a point to play a 13 people mafia when 4-5 people are literally not even trying?

Snow - played dota entire weekend and didn't bother to type 1 sentence, was up for lynch and did nothing, didn't give a shit.
Boxerfred - Made 0 content posts, said he was town and cba. disrespectful.
Onegu - Constantly catching up. Hasn't done anything. Why sign up for 2 games and play like this? disrespectful.
scott31337 - irl problems made him unable to play? Still, this is not acceptable, we kept the game small, he could do something. Not as bad mannered as Onegu, but still would prefer to never play a game with this guy. It's just not fun.
ANickelDrink - Has done some things. Still... I hope he is mafia. If he is town he just didn't give a shit. I don't understand. Like literally can't understand why sign up for a game like this. If he is mafia I can understand his play if he has a good team ( disrespectful towards team but game is over), or if he has a shitteam (with Onegu and Scott I would also not give 2 flying fucks)
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
December 02 2015 08:49 GMT
#1549
That is my mindset in this game. It sucks that we had to play with these 5 baddies, but unless we hit mafia between fefe, Onegu and scott, and the game is still ongoing, I might want to play with the good mafia player, otherwise, fuck it, wasted game.

The other people played well btw. I think if they are mafia they played well, just not much competition.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
December 02 2015 08:58 GMT
#1551
The endgame should be GB/OO/(TT, Chrom, Koshi)

With TT, Chrom, Koshi being the not lynch. However, this can still change because we are 1 week away from that.



But these is no hair on my head that wants to leave fefe, Onegu and scott alive over any of the above 5 names.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
December 02 2015 14:00 GMT
#1554
On December 02 2015 22:38 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 02 2015 17:58 Koshi wrote:
The endgame should be GB/OO/(TT, Chrom, Koshi)

With TT, Chrom, Koshi being the not lynch. However, this can still change because we are 1 week away from that.



But these is no hair on my head that wants to leave fefe, Onegu and scott alive over any of the above 5 names.


Koshi why am I Mafia?

You are so fucking out of this game you don't even understand why you are on position 4.

That is the reason.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
December 02 2015 14:01 GMT
#1555
There have been so many questions raised against you in the last pages. But if you are so fucking blind you can't read those and answer them I really can't help you anymore.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
December 02 2015 14:05 GMT
#1556
You have been showing to have an IQ of 65 last 2 days GB. You don't understand anything, don't reply to anything (except "huh? I don't get this") , don't try to figure anything out.


And then you ask "why am I mafia"



Well that is why you are mafia. Or a shitty townie in a world I can only pray the people who are playing this game are good townies and not really good mafia players.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
December 02 2015 14:10 GMT
#1557
Here is how the game looks like

potential good mafia players: Chrom/TT
potential good townies: Chrom/TT
confirmed townies (that are confirmed because they played well): sicklucker
potential townies that tried 1 day, and after that did fucking nothing, like literally nothing: GB
potential bad townies that got lucky: OO
potential mafia: GB, fefe
potential trash townies that I would like to see banned from playing on TL, but I guess I will just have to endure their shittyness: Onegu, scott
potential trash townies that I would like to see banned from playing on TL, but I guess I will just have to endure their shittyness, that have a chance of improving in the future: fefe
potential trash mafia that I would like to see banned from playing on TL, but I guess I will just have to endure their shittyness: Onegu, scott
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
December 02 2015 14:15 GMT
#1558
Instead of playing mafia the next games we got to spend the first 3 lynches on lynching retarded fucks that you can't read because they literally refuse to play the game as town/mafia/3p.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
December 02 2015 14:16 GMT
#1559
I mean look at Onegu/Snow/Boxerfred/Scott their filters. What a joke.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
December 02 2015 14:17 GMT
#1560
Imagine if fefe is town. Just imagine it. taunting town and refusing to do shit for 48 hours.



Great and fun game we are playing here.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
December 02 2015 14:22 GMT
#1561
On December 02 2015 23:10 Koshi wrote:
Here is how the game looks like

potential good mafia players: Chrom/TT
potential good townies: Chrom/TT
confirmed townies (that are confirmed because they played well): sicklucker
potential townies that tried 1 day, and after that did fucking nothing, like literally nothing: GB
potential bad townies that got lucky: OO
potential mafia: GB, fefe, OO
potential trash townies that I would like to see banned from playing on TL, but I guess I will just have to endure their shittyness: Onegu, scott
potential trash townies that I would like to see banned from playing on TL, but I guess I will just have to endure their shittyness, that have a chance of improving in the future: fefe
potential trash mafia that I would like to see banned from playing on TL, but I guess I will just have to endure their shittyness: Onegu, scott

Updated ↑

Forgot OO as mafia.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
December 02 2015 14:24 GMT
#1563
On December 02 2015 23:22 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 02 2015 23:01 Koshi wrote:
There have been so many questions raised against you in the last pages. But if you are so fucking blind you can't read those and answer them I really can't help you anymore.


I've answered all the questions I've seen in the thread and im doing my best to keep track of things. It's not because I'm not pushing anyone hard that I'm doing nothing. I'm not confident on my scum reads but I am reevaluating stuff pretty constantly to be able to do PoE

Explain to me why it is fucking impossible that I see you as potential mafia?
Or do you think I am mafia?
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
December 02 2015 14:34 GMT
#1565
On December 02 2015 23:27 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 02 2015 23:24 Koshi wrote:
On December 02 2015 23:22 GlowingBear wrote:
On December 02 2015 23:01 Koshi wrote:
There have been so many questions raised against you in the last pages. But if you are so fucking blind you can't read those and answer them I really can't help you anymore.


I've answered all the questions I've seen in the thread and im doing my best to keep track of things. It's not because I'm not pushing anyone hard that I'm doing nothing. I'm not confident on my scum reads but I am reevaluating stuff pretty constantly to be able to do PoE

Explain to me why it is fucking impossible that I see you as potential mafia?
Or do you think I am mafia?


I think you might be town, I'm not sure on you, but I am asking you why am I Mafia so I understand where your suspicions are coming from. Just that.

Because since D1 I have no idea anymore
1) How you will solve this game. I have no clue at all.
2) Who your scumreads are. I mean... you think I am mafia, TT is mafia, OO is mafia. You can't know if Onegu is mafia, or scott. So really? Maybe you should just start making a list of people who you would accept losing to if they are mafia. Because you aren't get anywhere. And is not that by time we can cut down the fucking list. Cuz shitters like scott and Onegu are refusing to make a single post about this game in 192 hours. Scott is actually reading the game though. So that is why tomorrow we lynch Scott. And then Onegu.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
December 02 2015 14:36 GMT
#1566
So you got around 96 hours to figure out you want to do anything and proof to TT, Chrom and Koshi that you are town GB, or you risk getting lynched before Onegu.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
December 02 2015 14:40 GMT
#1567
Which would really be an insult.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
December 02 2015 14:50 GMT
#1569
On December 02 2015 23:42 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 02 2015 23:36 Koshi wrote:
So you got around 96 hours to figure out you want to do anything and proof to TT, Chrom and Koshi that you are town GB, or you risk getting lynched before Onegu.


If you're considering lynching me before Onegu then I won't put a single piece of effort in this game because that's already outrageous

+1
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
December 02 2015 14:51 GMT
#1570
I am not considering it. See my posts I made. But others are. Who think Onegu is town for doing nothing, meta or something. Which is true. But this utter shit is a new low.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
December 02 2015 14:58 GMT
#1573
On December 02 2015 23:54 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 02 2015 23:34 Koshi wrote:
On December 02 2015 23:27 GlowingBear wrote:
On December 02 2015 23:24 Koshi wrote:
On December 02 2015 23:22 GlowingBear wrote:
On December 02 2015 23:01 Koshi wrote:
There have been so many questions raised against you in the last pages. But if you are so fucking blind you can't read those and answer them I really can't help you anymore.


I've answered all the questions I've seen in the thread and im doing my best to keep track of things. It's not because I'm not pushing anyone hard that I'm doing nothing. I'm not confident on my scum reads but I am reevaluating stuff pretty constantly to be able to do PoE

Explain to me why it is fucking impossible that I see you as potential mafia?
Or do you think I am mafia?


I think you might be town, I'm not sure on you, but I am asking you why am I Mafia so I understand where your suspicions are coming from. Just that.

Because since D1 I have no idea anymore
1) How you will solve this game. I have no clue at all.
2) Who your scumreads are. I mean... you think I am mafia, TT is mafia, OO is mafia. You can't know if Onegu is mafia, or scott. So really? Maybe you should just start making a list of people who you would accept losing to if they are mafia. Because you aren't get anywhere. And is not that by time we can cut down the fucking list. Cuz shitters like scott and Onegu are refusing to make a single post about this game in 192 hours. Scott is actually reading the game though. So that is why tomorrow we lynch Scott. And then Onegu.


None of these people are strong reads

But I'm doing things by PoE

So today I don't want to lynch Chrom (top town), Koshi, TT and OO (his latest reactions sounded townie to me)

I think scott should be the lynch today since we can afford a mislynch. I think FF cares too little to be Mafia here. Or it would make him more likely to be Mafia? I don't know. But I would always lynch scott first.

SICKLUCKER is confirmed town so whatever

This is where I'm at

If that is where you are. You shouldn't care if it is fefe or scott. at all. But you do (also in previous posts) which is odd.
So I don't know what you are doing.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
December 02 2015 15:27 GMT
#1575
On December 03 2015 00:18 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 02 2015 23:58 Koshi wrote:
On December 02 2015 23:54 GlowingBear wrote:
On December 02 2015 23:34 Koshi wrote:
On December 02 2015 23:27 GlowingBear wrote:
On December 02 2015 23:24 Koshi wrote:
On December 02 2015 23:22 GlowingBear wrote:
On December 02 2015 23:01 Koshi wrote:
There have been so many questions raised against you in the last pages. But if you are so fucking blind you can't read those and answer them I really can't help you anymore.


I've answered all the questions I've seen in the thread and im doing my best to keep track of things. It's not because I'm not pushing anyone hard that I'm doing nothing. I'm not confident on my scum reads but I am reevaluating stuff pretty constantly to be able to do PoE

Explain to me why it is fucking impossible that I see you as potential mafia?
Or do you think I am mafia?


I think you might be town, I'm not sure on you, but I am asking you why am I Mafia so I understand where your suspicions are coming from. Just that.

Because since D1 I have no idea anymore
1) How you will solve this game. I have no clue at all.
2) Who your scumreads are. I mean... you think I am mafia, TT is mafia, OO is mafia. You can't know if Onegu is mafia, or scott. So really? Maybe you should just start making a list of people who you would accept losing to if they are mafia. Because you aren't get anywhere. And is not that by time we can cut down the fucking list. Cuz shitters like scott and Onegu are refusing to make a single post about this game in 192 hours. Scott is actually reading the game though. So that is why tomorrow we lynch Scott. And then Onegu.


None of these people are strong reads

But I'm doing things by PoE

So today I don't want to lynch Chrom (top town), Koshi, TT and OO (his latest reactions sounded townie to me)

I think scott should be the lynch today since we can afford a mislynch. I think FF cares too little to be Mafia here. Or it would make him more likely to be Mafia? I don't know. But I would always lynch scott first.

SICKLUCKER is confirmed town so whatever

This is where I'm at

If that is where you are. You shouldn't care if it is fefe or scott. at all. But you do (also in previous posts) which is odd.
So I don't know what you are doing.


I care because ff was here for a long time and scott wasn't + the way FF's wagon piled up is suspicious

... How is it suspicious if the people you believe are mafia didn't vote early?
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
December 02 2015 15:31 GMT
#1576
On December 02 2015 07:57 Rels wrote:
Abstimmung - Tag 3


ANickelDrink (5): Tictock, Benevolent ghosts, sicklucker, Koshi, Chromatically
Chromatically (1): ObviousOne
scott31337 (1): GlowingBear
GlowingBear (0): sicklucker
Onegu (0): sicklucker

Nicht abgestimmt (5): Onegu, ANickelDrink, scott31337, Vengeful spirits

Im Moment werden wir ANickelDrink von der Tour ausschließen!
Dieser Tag endet in um 22:00 GMT (+00:00).

Bitte geben Sie ihre Stimme hier ab.
Wir werden nur Stimmen berücksichtigen die von dem Stimmzähler erfasst wurden.
(Only votes in the voting thread will be counted.)

Beachten Sie bitte die Wahlfrist! Wenn nicht Sie nicht abstimmen, werden sie vom Spiel entfernt werden.
(Please mind the deadline. Failure to vote will result in a modkill.)

The people you think are mafia didn't even vote.

Still the wagon was started suspiciously?

TT, marv ded confirmed town, alive confirmed town, Koshi, top town read.


Suspiciously...


I can't take anything you say seriously GB.

In 1 hand I got fuckers that don't play the game.
other hand I got GB that say his top townread, a dead townie and a confirmed townie started a suspicious wagon/
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
December 02 2015 15:31 GMT
#1577
Brilliant game.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
December 02 2015 15:49 GMT
#1579
On December 03 2015 00:34 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2015 00:31 Koshi wrote:
On December 02 2015 07:57 Rels wrote:
Abstimmung - Tag 3


ANickelDrink (5): Tictock, Benevolent ghosts, sicklucker, Koshi, Chromatically
Chromatically (1): ObviousOne
scott31337 (1): GlowingBear
GlowingBear (0): sicklucker
Onegu (0): sicklucker

Nicht abgestimmt (5): Onegu, ANickelDrink, scott31337, Vengeful spirits

Im Moment werden wir ANickelDrink von der Tour ausschließen!
Dieser Tag endet in um 22:00 GMT (+00:00).

Bitte geben Sie ihre Stimme hier ab.
Wir werden nur Stimmen berücksichtigen die von dem Stimmzähler erfasst wurden.
(Only votes in the voting thread will be counted.)

Beachten Sie bitte die Wahlfrist! Wenn nicht Sie nicht abstimmen, werden sie vom Spiel entfernt werden.
(Please mind the deadline. Failure to vote will result in a modkill.)

The people you think are mafia didn't even vote.

Still the wagon was started suspiciously?

TT, marv ded confirmed town, alive confirmed town, Koshi, top town read.


Suspiciously...


I can't take anything you say seriously GB.

In 1 hand I got fuckers that don't play the game.
other hand I got GB that say his top townread, a dead townie and a confirmed townie started a suspicious wagon/


Koshi, shocking news: I don't know who is Mafia and that wagon now has almost all the players in, which makes it a bus or... TA-DA! A mislynch!!!

I've told you more than once that I'm also not confident on my reads and that I'm kinda doing PoE.

You mean we either lynch mafia or town? shocking!

And you said it started suspiciously. While it was started by your fucking top townread, a dead townie and a confirmed townie. While your 3 biggest scumreads weren't on it.

The other 2 people are Koshi and TT. Which aren't up for lynch on this day anyway. You don't even want it, you want to lynch somebody who isn't fefe for a reason you don't have.


Dnu if you are just terribly illogical or mafia or you need some special attention. But at this point I am willing to lynch you before Onegu. But after scott though. 96 hours.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
December 02 2015 15:51 GMT
#1580
On December 03 2015 00:18 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 02 2015 23:58 Koshi wrote:
On December 02 2015 23:54 GlowingBear wrote:
On December 02 2015 23:34 Koshi wrote:
On December 02 2015 23:27 GlowingBear wrote:
On December 02 2015 23:24 Koshi wrote:
On December 02 2015 23:22 GlowingBear wrote:
On December 02 2015 23:01 Koshi wrote:
There have been so many questions raised against you in the last pages. But if you are so fucking blind you can't read those and answer them I really can't help you anymore.


I've answered all the questions I've seen in the thread and im doing my best to keep track of things. It's not because I'm not pushing anyone hard that I'm doing nothing. I'm not confident on my scum reads but I am reevaluating stuff pretty constantly to be able to do PoE

Explain to me why it is fucking impossible that I see you as potential mafia?
Or do you think I am mafia?


I think you might be town, I'm not sure on you, but I am asking you why am I Mafia so I understand where your suspicions are coming from. Just that.

Because since D1 I have no idea anymore
1) How you will solve this game. I have no clue at all.
2) Who your scumreads are. I mean... you think I am mafia, TT is mafia, OO is mafia. You can't know if Onegu is mafia, or scott. So really? Maybe you should just start making a list of people who you would accept losing to if they are mafia. Because you aren't get anywhere. And is not that by time we can cut down the fucking list. Cuz shitters like scott and Onegu are refusing to make a single post about this game in 192 hours. Scott is actually reading the game though. So that is why tomorrow we lynch Scott. And then Onegu.


None of these people are strong reads

But I'm doing things by PoE

So today I don't want to lynch Chrom (top town), Koshi, TT and OO (his latest reactions sounded townie to me)

I think scott should be the lynch today since we can afford a mislynch. I think FF cares too little to be Mafia here. Or it would make him more likely to be Mafia? I don't know. But I would always lynch scott first.

SICKLUCKER is confirmed town so whatever

This is where I'm at

If that is where you are. You shouldn't care if it is fefe or scott. at all. But you do (also in previous posts) which is odd.
So I don't know what you are doing.


I care because ff was here for a long time and scott wasn't + the way FF's wagon piled up is suspicious

piled up with dead townie, confirmed town, Koshi and then your top townread.


But please keep up the attitude like what you are saying isn't completely illogical garbage.

Good job.

I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
December 02 2015 15:51 GMT
#1581
On December 03 2015 00:34 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2015 00:31 Koshi wrote:
On December 02 2015 07:57 Rels wrote:
Abstimmung - Tag 3


ANickelDrink (5): Tictock, Benevolent ghosts, sicklucker, Koshi, Chromatically
Chromatically (1): ObviousOne
scott31337 (1): GlowingBear
GlowingBear (0): sicklucker
Onegu (0): sicklucker

Nicht abgestimmt (5): Onegu, ANickelDrink, scott31337, Vengeful spirits

Im Moment werden wir ANickelDrink von der Tour ausschließen!
Dieser Tag endet in um 22:00 GMT (+00:00).

Bitte geben Sie ihre Stimme hier ab.
Wir werden nur Stimmen berücksichtigen die von dem Stimmzähler erfasst wurden.
(Only votes in the voting thread will be counted.)

Beachten Sie bitte die Wahlfrist! Wenn nicht Sie nicht abstimmen, werden sie vom Spiel entfernt werden.
(Please mind the deadline. Failure to vote will result in a modkill.)

The people you think are mafia didn't even vote.

Still the wagon was started suspiciously?

TT, marv ded confirmed town, alive confirmed town, Koshi, top town read.


Suspiciously...


I can't take anything you say seriously GB.

In 1 hand I got fuckers that don't play the game.
other hand I got GB that say his top townread, a dead townie and a confirmed townie started a suspicious wagon/


Koshi, shocking news: I don't know who is Mafia and that wagon now has almost all the players in, which makes it a bus or... TA-DA! A mislynch!!!

I've told you more than once that I'm also not confident on my reads and that I'm kinda doing PoE.

Look at bolded. Some guy is giving me attitude that can't even keep his own reads straight.
Funny.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
December 02 2015 15:56 GMT
#1582
On December 03 2015 00:18 GlowingBear wrote:
I care because ff was here for a long time and scott wasn't + the way FF's wagon piled up is suspicious

On December 03 2015 00:34 GlowingBear wrote:
Koshi, shocking news: I don't know who is Mafia and that wagon now has almost all the players in, which makes it a bus or... TA-DA! A mislynch!!!

Or is it the timing of how all the confirmed townies voted for fefe? Was there exactly 2557 seconds between each vote? Illuminati confirmed?

Am I reading this wrong?


So a bunch of confirmed towns and a townread vote for a guy. GB does not want to lynch this guy because the piling on is suspicious. However, GB thinks the person who is voted on is top 3 mafia. And the 3 people who haven't voted yet are his top 3 mafia reads. (Which can be deduced by his reads and the fact it is an outrage if GB is voted out before Onegu)
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
December 02 2015 15:57 GMT
#1583
D3: fefe
D4: scott
D5: GB
D6: Onegu

win or lose game.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
December 02 2015 16:01 GMT
#1584
I just don't understand why GB is opposing this lynch. If he is mafia with fefe it looks horrible, if he is not mafia with fefe it looks horrible.

"at least fefe is around, so let's lynch scott"

Is Onegu town and is scumteam GB/fefe/OO and are they going for the modkill win today?
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
December 02 2015 16:04 GMT
#1585
Fact that GB had snow as his top townread D1 and disappeared when we lynched snow D2 says enough.

But let's not give more reasons why GB might be mafia, otherwise GB might asks if there are any reasons why people think he is mafia.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
December 02 2015 16:04 GMT
#1586
The less he types the better.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
December 02 2015 23:09 GMT
#1623
I like how it is a mysterious substance and then 5 words later it is arsenic.

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Koshi
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December 03 2015 08:29 GMT
#1641
On November 25 2015 09:09 Koshi wrote:
##vote ANickelDrink

Brilliancy needs to be rewarded.

I was totes with sl from second 1.
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Koshi
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December 03 2015 08:31 GMT
#1642
Yeah, GB is more likely town for that push on SL for the fefe thing. Would be really bold to do it as mafia.

Day 4: Onegu
Day 5: Scott
Day 6: OO


at this point.
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Koshi
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December 03 2015 09:24 GMT
#1643
On the other hand... Pushed mafia agenda pretty hard.
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Koshi
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December 03 2015 09:24 GMT
#1644
All the days every day.
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Koshi
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December 03 2015 12:45 GMT
#1647
On December 03 2015 20:55 Tictock wrote:
@ Koshi

You got to remember, mafia knows more than town does, so you got to ask yourself what the mafia agenda of GB was. Yesterday when you had that argument with GB there was a 0% chance you would get lynched and a +80% chance that fefe would get lynched. Would it not be strange play for mafia GB to call you out for not voting for him and instead voting for fefe?

Like... In normal games, on day 3 after 2 town lynches, mafia are bussing like shit and trying to look as good as possible going into D4. There was not much to gain for mafia GB yesterday by being a dumbass.

Everything can be wifomed
but
if GB is the sole mafia trying to win the game with his AFK teammates his endgame would be to win vs OO in lylo. He is doing a piss poor job securing the win like this.

Dnu.

Onegu --> Scott and we will see.
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Koshi
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December 03 2015 12:49 GMT
#1648
Onegu hasn't done shit this game. But that 1 comment on the fefe smurf was spot on. Could smell like TMI? dnu. I have no interest in guessing the alignment of 2 people who refuse to play.

I also think fefe would play better if he had a good teammate like TT/Chrom/GB/Koshi. I was pretty pissed at a possible town!fefe yesterday but in a team with scott/Onegu/OO his lackluster play makes sense.

Worst case scenario for us townies is fefe/GB/OO. If we can rule that out we got this covered till at least lylo.
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Koshi
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December 03 2015 14:02 GMT
#1651
On December 03 2015 22:21 Tictock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2015 21:49 Koshi wrote:
Onegu hasn't done shit this game. But that 1 comment on the fefe smurf was spot on. Could smell like TMI? dnu. I have no interest in guessing the alignment of 2 people who refuse to play.

I also think fefe would play better if he had a good teammate like TT/Chrom/GB/Koshi. I was pretty pissed at a possible town!fefe yesterday but in a team with scott/Onegu/OO his lackluster play makes sense.

Worst case scenario for us townies is fefe/GB/OO. If we can rule that out we got this covered till at least lylo.


1) Eh, maybe. But if this is afk mafia!Onegu why bother saying that so far after the fact and when FF wasn't under any real suspicion?

If we decide to lynch into the lurker pool tomorrow (which is still a good idea as we are still 1 mislynch from LyLo) I def think Scott is the lynch.

If nothing else his excuses lining up perfectly with EoD's is way too convenient.

2) Also why doesn't scum!Onegu at least sheep town last phase? Throwing his vote away and missing a chance to sheep confirmed town onto scum?

1) At that point Onegu might have wanted to actually play this game. As mafia he tends to look good on his reads.
2) Are you sure that if Onegu voted fefe he would look "better"? After all the trowaway votes he would suddenly vote mafia the day we lynch mafia? That would be suspicious for somebody who is always 30 pages behind.
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Koshi
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December 03 2015 14:57 GMT
#1658
Just got to figure out it can't be OO + GB as last 2. Because they are both not really working towards a lylo GB vs OO.
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Koshi
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December 03 2015 21:38 GMT
#1670
5k mmr. pretty sick.
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Koshi
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December 03 2015 22:49 GMT
#1687
Don't really understand why they pick me now. Unless ghost can protect same person twice...
I didn't put any pressure on Chrom so I don't see why we would ever lynch him.

I also don't agree Onegu isn't mafia.

I would still vote Scott/Onegu first out of this game.
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Koshi
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December 03 2015 22:55 GMT
#1689
If the snow vs OO wagon was town on town it didn't matter how and when scott voted.

But in case OO is town scott is kinda PoE mafia.
And in Case OO is mafia and scott voted to save his buddy, scott is still mafia.

##vote Scott

I didn't read your night posts too carefully yet sl. But I'll think about the fact if Onegu is town. I don't think he is more town than GB. Solo voting doesn't matter shit if it is always town on town. Which OO might be if the mafia team is fefe/OO/Onegu.


If there is another reason why Onegu might be town I didn't read it or forgot it.
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Koshi
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December 03 2015 23:02 GMT
#1690
I agree TT is extra town due to the fact mafia, and potential mafia didn't go for Vivax.
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Koshi
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December 03 2015 23:06 GMT
#1691
We didn't gain a ml though. It is just mylo instead of lylo now. But spirits got the 50/50 gamble in 2 nights if they are smart next night.
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Koshi
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December 03 2015 23:10 GMT
#1692
and mylo is worth shit due to not voting for no lynch.

SL, Koshi confirmed
TT, Chrom top tier town or top tier mafia
OO, GB town or mafia
Scott, Onegu trash town or trash mafia


Scott voting for Snow to put him in the lead vs OO does not make OO more mafia, it just means that if it was town vs town mafia scott was more afraid that Snow could prove himself town and that OO was more lynchbait in the future. Ofc it also could be OO is mafia and scott tried to save him.

Dnu. OO is pretty null from all these votes.
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Koshi
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December 03 2015 23:20 GMT
#1693
On November 30 2015 07:00 Rels wrote:
Abstimmung - Tag 2


Sn0_Man (7): Koshi, ObviousOne, Tictock, sicklucker, scott31337, Vengeful Spirits, ANickelDrink, Tictock, GlowingBear, sicklucker
ObviousOne (3): Chromatically, Koshi, GlowingBear, Koshi, Sn0_Man, ANickelDrink
ANickelDrink (0): Koshi, sicklucker
Koshi (1): Onegu
GlowingBear (0): Tictock

Nicht abgestimmt (2): boxerfred, Benevolent Ghosts

Im Moment werden wir Sn0_Man von der Tour ausschließen!
Dieser Tag endet in um 22:00 GMT (+00:00).

Bitte geben Sie ihre Stimme hier ab.
Wir werden nur Stimmen berücksichtigen die von dem Stimmzähler erfasst wurden.
(Only votes in the voting thread will be counted.)

Beachten Sie bitte die Wahlfrist! Wenn nicht Sie nicht abstimmen, werden sie vom Spiel entfernt werden.
(Please mind the deadline. Failure to vote will result in a modkill.)

I rarely ever saw 3 mafia vote in a row to start a wagon. This is pure wifom and dumb reasoning but it rarely ever happens. Mafia doesn't like to sit on the same wagon.
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Koshi
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December 03 2015 23:29 GMT
#1695
For me it is really 100% scott now.

If the scumteam is actually active, they would have been able to make fefe do more. fefe, Scott, Onegu still works like a charm and I don't see a good reason to think OO is mafia.

Scott is afraid to play as mafia and didn't post enough.
Onegu is mafia and is playing solo.
fefe got discouraged and stopped caring.

OO got "saved" by 2 mafia because OO was less likely to do something and actually solve the game in the future. With snow simply not posting on D2 during the weekend. Even though snow his filter is garbage, he did go into a clinch with fefe for the slightest of moments.
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Koshi
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December 03 2015 23:30 GMT
#1696
On December 04 2015 08:21 sicklucker wrote:
its not lylo we have a mislynch

I know, but after that it is mylo.

But I just understood your "let's lynch Chrom" post wrongly. I thought you meant we got another ml to lynch Chrom with.
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Koshi
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December 03 2015 23:31 GMT
#1697
On December 04 2015 08:29 Koshi wrote:
If the scumteam is actually active, they would have been able to make fefe do more. fefe, Scott, Onegu still works like a charm and I don't see a good reason to think OO is mafia.

Scott is afraid to play as mafia and didn't post enough.
Onegu is mafia and is playing solo.
fefe got discouraged and stopped caring.

OO got "saved" by 2 mafia because OO was less likely to do something and actually solve the game in the future. With snow simply not posting on D2 during the weekend. Even though snow his filter is garbage, he did go into a clinch with fefe for the slightest of moments.

↑ This is all pure speculation
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Koshi
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December 04 2015 00:07 GMT
#1703
I don't see where the 3 worlds are. There are 2 worlds. And in 1 you totally disregard the point I made.

In an oversimplified mathy way, but actually adding the fact mafia would really really really really really really really really really really really really prefer to keep OO in the game over Snow:
If scott mafia and OO town: 0% vote OO 100% vote Sno
If scott mafia and OO mafia: 100% vote OO 0% vote Sno
1 out of the 2 worlds where scott votes OO, OO is mafia -> 50%



In an oversimplified mathy way, but actually adding the fact mafia would really really prefer to keep OO in the game over Snow:
If scott mafia and OO town: 20% vote OO 80% vote Sno
If scott mafia and OO mafia: 100% vote OO 0% vote Sno
Both worlds combined the chance OO is mafia is 60% vs 40% where he is town


I don't remember the thread sentiment precisely. But I think people wanted to kill snow over OO because we thought snow was more likely mafia for doing nothing. Wasn't based on any reasoning at all.
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Koshi
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December 04 2015 00:09 GMT
#1704
ahh I understand where you get your 3rd world.
It is world 1 in which he 50/50 votes snow or OO. That suddenly becomes 2 worlds.
I am not sure your math is right.
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Koshi
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December 04 2015 00:09 GMT
#1705
I would think further about it and proof it but it just feels dirty. I don't like dirty math.
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Koshi
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December 05 2015 00:30 GMT
#1728
I had a brilliant idea earlier today but I forgot it. Anyway other things I was pondering about.

1) Was I targeted because I see GB as town? Before Onegu and OO

Oh now I remember.
The song fefe choose. "I hate you"
I wonder if it was based on the fact I should have died and I called Onegu/Scott Trash that should be banned from TL. Maybe they are all mad in their QT.
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Koshi
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December 05 2015 00:32 GMT
#1729
It was "We hate you" btw.
Like... I have been pretty nice to people except Scott, Onegu.
That being said. It also could just be that he is mad and that the "you" stands for the town that lynched him.


I was just thinking about the game and found it possibly funny/.
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Koshi
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December 05 2015 00:32 GMT
#1730
Or not "mad", just joking around.
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Koshi
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December 05 2015 00:35 GMT
#1731
oh wow. marv can vote again...
That is a bit op imo.

I actually was also thinking and now remember:

2) ghost can only vote once, and marv was so smart to not vote between snow and OO because he thought it might be town on town.



But alas, marv can vote a lot and just slacked D2
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Koshi
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December 05 2015 00:39 GMT
#1732
still grateful he saved me etc etc.
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Koshi
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December 05 2015 10:09 GMT
#1737
On December 05 2015 15:23 Chromatically wrote:
Scott has to be lynched though, and I think Onegu does too.

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Koshi
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December 05 2015 11:59 GMT
#1739
told you 48 hours ago you should focus energy on finding out if OO/GB could be a team.
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Koshi
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December 05 2015 23:30 GMT
#1787
Are you people braindead? There is no fucking reason in the world to vote chrom. Maybe try to give a couple reasons first before starting the paranoia train.
I can give a bunch of reasons why he isnt mafia. And a couple reasons why he can win when he is mafia. But I cant give reasons why he is mafia.
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Koshi
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December 05 2015 23:32 GMT
#1788
The only guy who we will lynch tomorrow is Onegu. There isnt even any need to discuss anything else. We can have some fun and discuss diablo, sc or soccer. But not otber lynches.
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Koshi
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December 05 2015 23:34 GMT
#1789
Voting oo tomorrow is an option. I ll reread his stuff.
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Koshi
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December 05 2015 23:37 GMT
#1790
But it is only an option for the people who love to play mafia. Because the cancer team took the mafia out of this game.

It's almost always Onegu. Dont get fucked due to the meta nobody even double checked. Because he does do a little bit normally.

While here he is just adding to the paranoia train because he needs 2 more ml.


99% of the times Onegu is the lynch. For me it is 100%
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Koshi
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December 05 2015 23:51 GMT
#1793
On December 06 2015 08:30 Koshi wrote:
Are you people braindead?

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Koshi
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December 05 2015 23:54 GMT
#1795
On December 06 2015 08:53 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 06 2015 08:51 Koshi wrote:
On December 06 2015 08:30 Koshi wrote:
Are you people braindead?



Don't lynch him and lose the game then.

Then I'll requote this.

You can just type solely "yes" next time. Then I got to read less words.
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Koshi
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December 05 2015 23:57 GMT
#1797
On December 06 2015 08:56 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 06 2015 08:54 Koshi wrote:
On December 06 2015 08:53 GlowingBear wrote:
On December 06 2015 08:51 Koshi wrote:
On December 06 2015 08:30 Koshi wrote:
Are you people braindead?



Don't lynch him and lose the game then.

Then I'll requote this.

You can just type solely "yes" next time. Then I got to read less words.


Keep posting this so I can have more than one quote to PM you every day

I would like to point out I had Chrom as mafia D1, and I didn't want to vote Vivax or TT.
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Koshi
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December 05 2015 23:58 GMT
#1798
But at this point I am not worried about TT or Chrom. Not even a little bit.
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Koshi
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December 05 2015 23:59 GMT
#1800
Sicklucker
GB
Chrom
TT
------- ↑very town
------- ↓ not town
OO
------- ↓cancer
Onegu
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Koshi
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December 06 2015 00:00 GMT
#1801
On December 06 2015 08:59 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 06 2015 08:57 Koshi wrote:
On December 06 2015 08:56 GlowingBear wrote:
On December 06 2015 08:54 Koshi wrote:
On December 06 2015 08:53 GlowingBear wrote:
On December 06 2015 08:51 Koshi wrote:
On December 06 2015 08:30 Koshi wrote:
Are you people braindead?



Don't lynch him and lose the game then.

Then I'll requote this.

You can just type solely "yes" next time. Then I got to read less words.


Keep posting this so I can have more than one quote to PM you every day

I would like to point out I had Chrom as mafia D1, and I didn't want to vote Vivax or TT.


Cool

Do you understand where I'm coming from?

No because Onegu is still in the game.
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Koshi
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December 06 2015 00:09 GMT
#1802
Oh stupid that I wasn't here for shennanies, but explain to me why Chrom would like to kill Onegu and modkill scott? Because that would give town another ml. A ml Chrom needs.

Then on top of that, his D3 was fucking awesome and he followed my train of thought perfectly.

On top of that, why would he change the killtarget from sicklucker -> Koshi and risk another save on N3?

Why would he do work N3, he already bussed for towncred and nobody looked his way?:
+ Show Spoiler +
On December 03 2015 02:36 Chromatically wrote:
I understand GB's thing about scott vs FF today. I don't think his thing about the FF wagon piling up too easily makes a lot of logical sense given his reads but I don't think it makes him a lynch before Onegu by any means.


On December 03 2015 04:17 Chromatically wrote:
I really don't think GB is the lynch over FF today at all


On December 03 2015 06:45 Chromatically wrote:
It's pretty nice how like the whole town circle has essentially the same PoE list. We just have to collectively find one solid town out of there and we should be able to pull this off.


On December 03 2015 06:46 Chromatically wrote:
also lol @ FF, "spirits making me actually give a shit about this game" indeed


On December 03 2015 07:03 Chromatically wrote:
There's probably a lot of info in those interactions D1 with SL pushing him and people taking sides on that, I'll go check that out at some point.


On December 03 2015 16:25 Chromatically wrote:
So I read through early D1 again to see how things went down when SL pushed FF for outing his smurf so early. Here are the relevant people's reactions:

Show nested quote +
On November 25 2015 15:16 Onegu wrote:
On November 25 2015 14:31 ObviousOne wrote:
On November 25 2015 14:14 Onegu wrote:
VT Claim

Is that a Koshi specific thing? Details?



No I am just claiming VT.

Have something to talk about post game. Wont bring it up now.

I am on side FF looks worse for outing his smurf so early...

Show nested quote +
On November 25 2015 14:55 scott31337 wrote:
Allright, so I'm thinking the FF smurf thing is NAI - I'm glad it got the conversation started though.


...

Show nested quote +
On November 25 2015 09:08 ObviousOne wrote:
the outing scenario, taken alone:

i take fefe's self-outing to mean that he's town and he wants to win the game, and that he believes his normal town behaviour when not associated with his name will lead to being lynched, therefore he can be himself from the beginning. would be hella easy if he rolled mafia to just go along with staying closeted about his identity and doing literally anything else.


that said, i don't think it's really worth using the situation to judge whether or not he's town in a vacuum so just see where he goes from here

Show nested quote +
On November 25 2015 11:18 GlowingBear wrote:
On November 25 2015 08:43 sicklucker wrote:
On November 25 2015 08:09 Chromatically wrote:
I'm more interested in if he thinks FF is mafia for that?


ya probably. Hes afraid he will be outed and coming clean will gain him town cred. Theres no way ff smurfed to reveal himself the 80% of the time he rolled town. It makes no sense...

Espiecally since I have never seen him get mafia in like 15 games with him...

lynch ff for sanity


And this post makes you fairly scum

Show nested quote +
On November 25 2015 11:30 GlowingBear wrote:
Cool, some weak early reads:

Koshi looks townie for his tone. Especially when he makes the post of the town pyramid and the following one.

Chrom looks townie for thinking critically about the game.

SL looks scummy for this hard push on FF on a matter that isn't really alignment indicative.

Tictock looks scummy for commenting that SL may have a point but concluding that FF's thing isn't alignment indicative. If SL does have a point then it is alignment indicative. If it isn't alignment indicative, SL doesn't have a point. Therefore you just look you're posting to look contributive while actually being fluffy and pushing the matter nowhere

Out of these, I would say that scott and Onegu's are the worst (huge information, I know).

scott gives as little of an opinion on it as humanly possible, just says that it's NAI and passes. Very easy for mafia to do, want to avoid giving opinions on their partners.

Onegu says that FF looks worse for outing his smurf, but then never mentions FF again after it. He leaves his vote on Koshi all of D1 for no reason over someone he thinks is scummy (this part could just be him not playing at all). I think this reaction makes a lot of sense from mafia who know that the points on FF are correct but don't want to actually push them by bringing it up later.

OO at least takes a stance on the issue. SL brought up earlier that mafia would probably have followed my argument against him and OO is the prime culprit of that, but it's a better reaction than scott/Onegu's at least. And since everyone else is convinced about him, I'm fine not dealing with him until after we have mafia #2.

GB goes as far as to call SL mafia for his push, which would be a kind of bold move for mafia but it's certainly not out of the realm of possibility.

So scott and Onegu look scummier, OO and GB mostly null. Not super helpful conclusions but it does make me feel good about lynching scott and Onegu.

I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
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December 06 2015 00:11 GMT
#1803
This compared to Onegu who was always here reading. Following the thread. Who has not have an original thought ever. Who DOES NOT HAVE A FUCKING TOWN META OF DOING LITERALLY NOTHING YOU DUMB MORONS, he does less, but still does things for town.

While this game he starts playing to add to the paranoia train on Chrom WITHOUT ANY FUCKING REASONS TO GIVE TOWN.




Ugh. I can't possibly be bothered to push a guy that is completely null over a guy that actually played the game and is most likely town. Just because some braindead fucks decide paranoia is bliss.
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Koshi
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December 06 2015 00:13 GMT
#1804
Hopefully we get another save in the next 3 nights. Then we can lynch all the people.
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Koshi
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December 06 2015 00:34 GMT
#1811
On December 06 2015 09:30 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 06 2015 09:09 Koshi wrote:
Oh stupid that I wasn't here for shennanies, but explain to me why Chrom would like to kill Onegu and modkill scott? Because that would give town another ml. A ml Chrom needs.

Then on top of that, his D3 was fucking awesome and he followed my train of thought perfectly.

On top of that, why would he change the killtarget from sicklucker -> Koshi and risk another save on N3?

Why would he do work N3, he already bussed for towncred and nobody looked his way?:
+ Show Spoiler +
On December 03 2015 02:36 Chromatically wrote:
I understand GB's thing about scott vs FF today. I don't think his thing about the FF wagon piling up too easily makes a lot of logical sense given his reads but I don't think it makes him a lynch before Onegu by any means.


On December 03 2015 04:17 Chromatically wrote:
I really don't think GB is the lynch over FF today at all


On December 03 2015 06:45 Chromatically wrote:
It's pretty nice how like the whole town circle has essentially the same PoE list. We just have to collectively find one solid town out of there and we should be able to pull this off.


On December 03 2015 06:46 Chromatically wrote:
also lol @ FF, "spirits making me actually give a shit about this game" indeed


On December 03 2015 07:03 Chromatically wrote:
There's probably a lot of info in those interactions D1 with SL pushing him and people taking sides on that, I'll go check that out at some point.


On December 03 2015 16:25 Chromatically wrote:
So I read through early D1 again to see how things went down when SL pushed FF for outing his smurf so early. Here are the relevant people's reactions:

Show nested quote +
On November 25 2015 15:16 Onegu wrote:
On November 25 2015 14:31 ObviousOne wrote:
On November 25 2015 14:14 Onegu wrote:
VT Claim

Is that a Koshi specific thing? Details?



No I am just claiming VT.

Have something to talk about post game. Wont bring it up now.

I am on side FF looks worse for outing his smurf so early...

Show nested quote +
On November 25 2015 14:55 scott31337 wrote:
Allright, so I'm thinking the FF smurf thing is NAI - I'm glad it got the conversation started though.


...

Show nested quote +
On November 25 2015 09:08 ObviousOne wrote:
the outing scenario, taken alone:

i take fefe's self-outing to mean that he's town and he wants to win the game, and that he believes his normal town behaviour when not associated with his name will lead to being lynched, therefore he can be himself from the beginning. would be hella easy if he rolled mafia to just go along with staying closeted about his identity and doing literally anything else.


that said, i don't think it's really worth using the situation to judge whether or not he's town in a vacuum so just see where he goes from here

Show nested quote +
On November 25 2015 11:18 GlowingBear wrote:
On November 25 2015 08:43 sicklucker wrote:
On November 25 2015 08:09 Chromatically wrote:
I'm more interested in if he thinks FF is mafia for that?


ya probably. Hes afraid he will be outed and coming clean will gain him town cred. Theres no way ff smurfed to reveal himself the 80% of the time he rolled town. It makes no sense...

Espiecally since I have never seen him get mafia in like 15 games with him...

lynch ff for sanity


And this post makes you fairly scum

Show nested quote +
On November 25 2015 11:30 GlowingBear wrote:
Cool, some weak early reads:

Koshi looks townie for his tone. Especially when he makes the post of the town pyramid and the following one.

Chrom looks townie for thinking critically about the game.

SL looks scummy for this hard push on FF on a matter that isn't really alignment indicative.

Tictock looks scummy for commenting that SL may have a point but concluding that FF's thing isn't alignment indicative. If SL does have a point then it is alignment indicative. If it isn't alignment indicative, SL doesn't have a point. Therefore you just look you're posting to look contributive while actually being fluffy and pushing the matter nowhere

Out of these, I would say that scott and Onegu's are the worst (huge information, I know).

scott gives as little of an opinion on it as humanly possible, just says that it's NAI and passes. Very easy for mafia to do, want to avoid giving opinions on their partners.

Onegu says that FF looks worse for outing his smurf, but then never mentions FF again after it. He leaves his vote on Koshi all of D1 for no reason over someone he thinks is scummy (this part could just be him not playing at all). I think this reaction makes a lot of sense from mafia who know that the points on FF are correct but don't want to actually push them by bringing it up later.

OO at least takes a stance on the issue. SL brought up earlier that mafia would probably have followed my argument against him and OO is the prime culprit of that, but it's a better reaction than scott/Onegu's at least. And since everyone else is convinced about him, I'm fine not dealing with him until after we have mafia #2.

GB goes as far as to call SL mafia for his push, which would be a kind of bold move for mafia but it's certainly not out of the realm of possibility.

So scott and Onegu look scummier, OO and GB mostly null. Not super helpful conclusions but it does make me feel good about lynching scott and Onegu.



I thought Chrom voted OO at the shenanigan's time?

From what I can read, he wanted Onegu but 2 other wanted OO, so he sheeped them because you need to vote together.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
December 06 2015 00:36 GMT
#1813
On December 06 2015 09:34 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 06 2015 09:30 GlowingBear wrote:
On December 06 2015 09:09 Koshi wrote:
Oh stupid that I wasn't here for shennanies, but explain to me why Chrom would like to kill Onegu and modkill scott? Because that would give town another ml. A ml Chrom needs.

Then on top of that, his D3 was fucking awesome and he followed my train of thought perfectly.

On top of that, why would he change the killtarget from sicklucker -> Koshi and risk another save on N3?

Why would he do work N3, he already bussed for towncred and nobody looked his way?:
+ Show Spoiler +
On December 03 2015 02:36 Chromatically wrote:
I understand GB's thing about scott vs FF today. I don't think his thing about the FF wagon piling up too easily makes a lot of logical sense given his reads but I don't think it makes him a lynch before Onegu by any means.


On December 03 2015 04:17 Chromatically wrote:
I really don't think GB is the lynch over FF today at all


On December 03 2015 06:45 Chromatically wrote:
It's pretty nice how like the whole town circle has essentially the same PoE list. We just have to collectively find one solid town out of there and we should be able to pull this off.


On December 03 2015 06:46 Chromatically wrote:
also lol @ FF, "spirits making me actually give a shit about this game" indeed


On December 03 2015 07:03 Chromatically wrote:
There's probably a lot of info in those interactions D1 with SL pushing him and people taking sides on that, I'll go check that out at some point.


On December 03 2015 16:25 Chromatically wrote:
So I read through early D1 again to see how things went down when SL pushed FF for outing his smurf so early. Here are the relevant people's reactions:

Show nested quote +
On November 25 2015 15:16 Onegu wrote:
On November 25 2015 14:31 ObviousOne wrote:
On November 25 2015 14:14 Onegu wrote:
VT Claim

Is that a Koshi specific thing? Details?



No I am just claiming VT.

Have something to talk about post game. Wont bring it up now.

I am on side FF looks worse for outing his smurf so early...

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On November 25 2015 14:55 scott31337 wrote:
Allright, so I'm thinking the FF smurf thing is NAI - I'm glad it got the conversation started though.


...

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On November 25 2015 09:08 ObviousOne wrote:
the outing scenario, taken alone:

i take fefe's self-outing to mean that he's town and he wants to win the game, and that he believes his normal town behaviour when not associated with his name will lead to being lynched, therefore he can be himself from the beginning. would be hella easy if he rolled mafia to just go along with staying closeted about his identity and doing literally anything else.


that said, i don't think it's really worth using the situation to judge whether or not he's town in a vacuum so just see where he goes from here

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On November 25 2015 11:18 GlowingBear wrote:
On November 25 2015 08:43 sicklucker wrote:
On November 25 2015 08:09 Chromatically wrote:
I'm more interested in if he thinks FF is mafia for that?


ya probably. Hes afraid he will be outed and coming clean will gain him town cred. Theres no way ff smurfed to reveal himself the 80% of the time he rolled town. It makes no sense...

Espiecally since I have never seen him get mafia in like 15 games with him...

lynch ff for sanity


And this post makes you fairly scum

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On November 25 2015 11:30 GlowingBear wrote:
Cool, some weak early reads:

Koshi looks townie for his tone. Especially when he makes the post of the town pyramid and the following one.

Chrom looks townie for thinking critically about the game.

SL looks scummy for this hard push on FF on a matter that isn't really alignment indicative.

Tictock looks scummy for commenting that SL may have a point but concluding that FF's thing isn't alignment indicative. If SL does have a point then it is alignment indicative. If it isn't alignment indicative, SL doesn't have a point. Therefore you just look you're posting to look contributive while actually being fluffy and pushing the matter nowhere

Out of these, I would say that scott and Onegu's are the worst (huge information, I know).

scott gives as little of an opinion on it as humanly possible, just says that it's NAI and passes. Very easy for mafia to do, want to avoid giving opinions on their partners.

Onegu says that FF looks worse for outing his smurf, but then never mentions FF again after it. He leaves his vote on Koshi all of D1 for no reason over someone he thinks is scummy (this part could just be him not playing at all). I think this reaction makes a lot of sense from mafia who know that the points on FF are correct but don't want to actually push them by bringing it up later.

OO at least takes a stance on the issue. SL brought up earlier that mafia would probably have followed my argument against him and OO is the prime culprit of that, but it's a better reaction than scott/Onegu's at least. And since everyone else is convinced about him, I'm fine not dealing with him until after we have mafia #2.

GB goes as far as to call SL mafia for his push, which would be a kind of bold move for mafia but it's certainly not out of the realm of possibility.

So scott and Onegu look scummier, OO and GB mostly null. Not super helpful conclusions but it does make me feel good about lynching scott and Onegu.



I thought Chrom voted OO at the shenanigan's time?

From what I can read, he wanted Onegu but 2 other wanted OO, so he sheeped them because you need to vote together.

Also, OO is a ml Chrom needs as mafia.... ffs GB.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
December 06 2015 00:41 GMT
#1817
On December 06 2015 09:38 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 06 2015 09:34 Koshi wrote:
On December 06 2015 09:30 GlowingBear wrote:
On December 06 2015 09:09 Koshi wrote:
Oh stupid that I wasn't here for shennanies, but explain to me why Chrom would like to kill Onegu and modkill scott? Because that would give town another ml. A ml Chrom needs.

Then on top of that, his D3 was fucking awesome and he followed my train of thought perfectly.

On top of that, why would he change the killtarget from sicklucker -> Koshi and risk another save on N3?

Why would he do work N3, he already bussed for towncred and nobody looked his way?:
+ Show Spoiler +
On December 03 2015 02:36 Chromatically wrote:
I understand GB's thing about scott vs FF today. I don't think his thing about the FF wagon piling up too easily makes a lot of logical sense given his reads but I don't think it makes him a lynch before Onegu by any means.


On December 03 2015 04:17 Chromatically wrote:
I really don't think GB is the lynch over FF today at all


On December 03 2015 06:45 Chromatically wrote:
It's pretty nice how like the whole town circle has essentially the same PoE list. We just have to collectively find one solid town out of there and we should be able to pull this off.


On December 03 2015 06:46 Chromatically wrote:
also lol @ FF, "spirits making me actually give a shit about this game" indeed


On December 03 2015 07:03 Chromatically wrote:
There's probably a lot of info in those interactions D1 with SL pushing him and people taking sides on that, I'll go check that out at some point.


On December 03 2015 16:25 Chromatically wrote:
So I read through early D1 again to see how things went down when SL pushed FF for outing his smurf so early. Here are the relevant people's reactions:

Show nested quote +
On November 25 2015 15:16 Onegu wrote:
On November 25 2015 14:31 ObviousOne wrote:
On November 25 2015 14:14 Onegu wrote:
VT Claim

Is that a Koshi specific thing? Details?



No I am just claiming VT.

Have something to talk about post game. Wont bring it up now.

I am on side FF looks worse for outing his smurf so early...

Show nested quote +
On November 25 2015 14:55 scott31337 wrote:
Allright, so I'm thinking the FF smurf thing is NAI - I'm glad it got the conversation started though.


...

Show nested quote +
On November 25 2015 09:08 ObviousOne wrote:
the outing scenario, taken alone:

i take fefe's self-outing to mean that he's town and he wants to win the game, and that he believes his normal town behaviour when not associated with his name will lead to being lynched, therefore he can be himself from the beginning. would be hella easy if he rolled mafia to just go along with staying closeted about his identity and doing literally anything else.


that said, i don't think it's really worth using the situation to judge whether or not he's town in a vacuum so just see where he goes from here

Show nested quote +
On November 25 2015 11:18 GlowingBear wrote:
On November 25 2015 08:43 sicklucker wrote:
On November 25 2015 08:09 Chromatically wrote:
I'm more interested in if he thinks FF is mafia for that?


ya probably. Hes afraid he will be outed and coming clean will gain him town cred. Theres no way ff smurfed to reveal himself the 80% of the time he rolled town. It makes no sense...

Espiecally since I have never seen him get mafia in like 15 games with him...

lynch ff for sanity


And this post makes you fairly scum

Show nested quote +
On November 25 2015 11:30 GlowingBear wrote:
Cool, some weak early reads:

Koshi looks townie for his tone. Especially when he makes the post of the town pyramid and the following one.

Chrom looks townie for thinking critically about the game.

SL looks scummy for this hard push on FF on a matter that isn't really alignment indicative.

Tictock looks scummy for commenting that SL may have a point but concluding that FF's thing isn't alignment indicative. If SL does have a point then it is alignment indicative. If it isn't alignment indicative, SL doesn't have a point. Therefore you just look you're posting to look contributive while actually being fluffy and pushing the matter nowhere

Out of these, I would say that scott and Onegu's are the worst (huge information, I know).

scott gives as little of an opinion on it as humanly possible, just says that it's NAI and passes. Very easy for mafia to do, want to avoid giving opinions on their partners.

Onegu says that FF looks worse for outing his smurf, but then never mentions FF again after it. He leaves his vote on Koshi all of D1 for no reason over someone he thinks is scummy (this part could just be him not playing at all). I think this reaction makes a lot of sense from mafia who know that the points on FF are correct but don't want to actually push them by bringing it up later.

OO at least takes a stance on the issue. SL brought up earlier that mafia would probably have followed my argument against him and OO is the prime culprit of that, but it's a better reaction than scott/Onegu's at least. And since everyone else is convinced about him, I'm fine not dealing with him until after we have mafia #2.

GB goes as far as to call SL mafia for his push, which would be a kind of bold move for mafia but it's certainly not out of the realm of possibility.

So scott and Onegu look scummier, OO and GB mostly null. Not super helpful conclusions but it does make me feel good about lynching scott and Onegu.



I thought Chrom voted OO at the shenanigan's time?

From what I can read, he wanted Onegu but 2 other wanted OO, so he sheeped them because you need to vote together.


Well, Koshi, if Chrom is the last Mafia he would shenannie on anyone just to have one less ML

No wait

Let me do the math

As mafia he would not want to shennanies because he would lose a ml to town..... But w.e.
He could be mafia, (not really), but his play is superb then. Nobody gives reasons good enough to lynch him over Onegu. Just lynch ONegu and do w.e you want after that. Just lynch Onegu.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
December 06 2015 00:42 GMT
#1818
On December 06 2015 09:41 GlowingBear wrote:
Yeah. He would need one less mislynch, Koshi. Any town up for the lynch would help him.

NO HE WOULDN'T?????????????????????????????????????????????????
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
December 06 2015 00:43 GMT
#1819
As mafia he gives town another flip FFS!

Town has 2 ml at this point.
Let's say Onegu get's modkilled now. (was the other way around if we lynched Onegu and modkill scott)

Then we STILL GOT 2 ml. Which means we can lynch/choose 3 people instead of 2.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
December 06 2015 00:44 GMT
#1821
But. I have no interests in defending people.

The only interest I have is that you people lynch Onegu tomorrow.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
December 06 2015 00:45 GMT
#1822
Well we lose after the second ml. But if somebody gets modkilled (that we want to ml) we lose after the 3rd ml.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
December 06 2015 00:59 GMT
#1832
On November 26 2015 19:52 ANickelDrink wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2015 19:17 ObviousOne wrote:
+ Show Spoiler [rant as fuck] +
this feels like the slowest day 1 I've been a part of on this site in ages, if not ever. not for lack of posts but for lack of substance. i thought the wordy derpy phase we had at the start was indicative of a bunch of people who wanted to talk but that doesn't seem to be the case. this has led to an environment where the mafia don't have to post at all to blend in, because so few topics have been discussed. i know obviously i'm a part of this particular problem, but it's also become something of a systemic issue.

koshi who is arguably one of the greater forces in this game has it in his head that people will run his errands, which is fine as a character but is kind of silly to expect anyone to jump however high it is he expects. his effort to assert dominance can have subtle effects on the game. a sort of bystander effect where everyone who wants the same information might end up waiting for another person to do it, therefore nobody does it, and nothing is accomplished. the paradigm that comes along with setting himself up as the tip of the power pyramid which may or may no be in jest, i've played with koshi before and he's had a similar attitude about things. nobody wants or needs to challenge him so the whole thing is hollow anyway. like i said before, plenty of room in the shadows with the rest of us.

the issue with having marv in game is that everyone expects godly-play town or shitty-play mafia, when it's probably a bit of both that he's aiming for. posting less when town and slightly more than he feels comfortable with as mafia is how he gets to balance his play so he's not immediately outed when he's mafia. no idea what his alignment is and really nobody should care what he does until he, you know, does something. more useless conversation around this topic.


i have preconceptions about vivax that lead me to believe he is capable of much more but is phoning it in this game. i had the same feeling before in student mafia xv and he was town there, so it might be melding the town and mafia sides of his play or that might just be i need to lower my expectations considerably. the difference between marv and vivax is that i don't have any personal heuristics on how to read vivax whatsoever. fuck, in that student game he pretty much blew off all my questions and i was kinda miffed about the whole thing.

tictock still in my talent pool for today's lynch but not feeling it as strongly as others are, haven't really reviewed his recent posts but he's out of the top of the list for now

sn0 could be added to it i think, but that's a reflection of my thoughts regarding how things seem to usually go down when marv is in a game. i sort of like the idea he had to avoid starting a conflict with SL in favor of seeing tictock's response to his wagon. ugh but the smurf stuff and the marv stuff. icky mess.

boxer situation is hilarious but not gonna take him off my candidate list for today.

fefe hasn't hit his stride yet or is mafia, don't know which.

as for scott, for some reason i have it in my mind that he just rarely actually participates (at least in games we're been in together, pretty sure he's been modkilled in one of them), and that's been when he was town. so i can't judge him based on his participation / engagement. can reflect on him if we find out for sure tictock's or maybe even GB's alignment.

feeling less good about SL but there seems to be the feeling of progression in his filter and i owe him a HJ for saving my life last game.

honestly i should just delete this instead of posting it but whatever

strongest to weakest feels regarding likelihood of mafianess
{boxer onegu} strongerest
{sn0 SL fefe} less stronk
{tictock scott vivax} middling
{everyone else}

oh look a pyramid scheme koshi wouldn't want to be at the top of, lel

i'm not locked into this vote but i better vote so i don't get rekt
between onegu and boxer i'm gonna go with the 'gu bc boxer made a funny

#vote: onegu

This post really feels like coasting along to me

The spoiler complains about the low activity and koshi/marv which is whatever. He says Vivax isn't a good lynch because he was town one time where he ignored OO's questions. The bolded says that OO has a personal heuristic for playing with marv but provides no read on marv.

Show nested quote +
tictock still in my talent pool for today's lynch but not feeling it as strongly as others are, haven't really reviewed his recent posts but he's out of the top of the list for now

So if you haven't read tictocks recent posts why is he 'out' of the top of your list? Because others started to go on him? That's an odd reason?

Show nested quote +
sn0 could be added to it i think, but that's a reflection of my thoughts regarding how things seem to usually go down when marv is in a game. i sort of like the idea he had to avoid starting a conflict with SL in favor of seeing tictock's response to his wagon. ugh but the smurf stuff and the marv stuff. icky mess.

What do the smurf stuff and marv have to do with sn0_man? You say he's a possible lynch target but only list a thing you like about his play

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fefe hasn't hit his stride yet or is mafia, don't know which.

the classic: don't really talk about FF but keep him open for later. I've seen this before. Explain what my stride is as town please.

Pretty sure this will be a mess of a post but oh well

Not sure if OO is a good lynch after Onegu. So I will let the baddies be after Onegu dies.
But please do read both Chrom and TT if you want to do dumb shit. After Onegu dies.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
December 06 2015 01:01 GMT
#1833
wait no I am retarded. There is almost no way fefe would shitvote on Chrom if TT is mafia.
Almost no way.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
December 06 2015 01:07 GMT
#1834
hahaha. There are actually pretty big clues in fefe his filter that scott was mafia with him. Kinda hilarious. Like how he tries to pressure GB for mentioning he (GB) wanted to do a shennnies on Scott.

and fefe is like: "why didn't you start saying it earlier". Like... He knew scott is mafia and is somehow using that info to make GB look worse:

On November 30 2015 07:05 ANickelDrink wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2015 07:04 GlowingBear wrote:
On November 30 2015 07:03 ANickelDrink wrote:
On November 30 2015 07:02 GlowingBear wrote:
LYLO

Cool

Been calculating this already? lol


Yes

I was thinking about shennanie into scott

You were thinking about shenanigan into scott when 5 mins before deadline you waited for the main wagon to explain himself...


On November 30 2015 10:22 ANickelDrink wrote:
GB what I'm trying to ask is at what point were you considering a shenanigan on scott when you made no indication you were even goinbg to switch votes until 7 mins or some shit before deadline


There is a bit more... I really don't think GB is mafia because of this? I already didn't think it but this entire chain is really odd between 2 mafia.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
December 06 2015 01:11 GMT
#1835
On November 29 2015 10:52 ANickelDrink wrote:
Call me paranoid but what if the scumteam is onegu/bf/scott and they're trying some RL excuse shenanigans....

On November 30 2015 06:03 ANickelDrink wrote:
Flashbacks to the game I hosted where mafia team was so AFK they missed a night kill. Town lynched them that game tho....

On November 30 2015 06:22 ANickelDrink wrote:
so if boxerfred shows up right before deadline with another 'lol idk what's going on' and a vote it's going to be so fun having a policy lynch among afkers on day fucking 3....

Lot's of focus by fefe on afkers.
He voted boxerfred D1, and in last comment he also focusses WAY more on boxerfred than scott/Onegu.

fefe never said anything about Onegu and his excuses.



...
From reading the fefe filter I would lynch Onegu. (but I might be tunneled)
But GB looks clear.
And fefe making that counterpost on OO his first whinepost... Then instantly backing off when OO replied to him... Dnu...

Onegu first.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
December 06 2015 01:12 GMT
#1836
ONEGU FUCKING FIRST BOIS
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
December 06 2015 01:17 GMT
#1837
fefe is also really focussed on Chrome. Always says "nice read on Chrome, figure more stuff out" but never helps.
From reading fefe filter a couple times I think GB and OO are in the clear.


Would be nice if the paranoia train people would actually read some fucking filters. Start with fefe and Scott. And tell mewhat you think.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
December 06 2015 01:20 GMT
#1838
If Chrome is fucking mafia. Imagine how good I fucking was D1 again.
I am really warming up to lynch Onegu --> Chrome.
Just because the fefe filter.

fefe talks to OO like he does to other townies.
Interaction with GB abput scott is odd, especially if they are all 3 mafia. Really unseen.
fefe didn't vote Vivax when TT was on the block.

While on the other hand:
-waffles on scott, defended him once, said he could be mafia a lot.
-ignores Onegu totally while having a fixation on the afkers
-has a boner for people who think Chrome is mafia (both Koshi and OO)
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
December 06 2015 01:22 GMT
#1839
No seriously. GB is going to give me shit if Chrome is mafia. While I said Chrome was mafia D1.

And how did GB reply? :
On November 27 2015 07:03 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 27 2015 07:01 marvellosity wrote:
damnit

maybe it is tt/chrome/marv after all


Tomorrow we lynch Tictock

Then we lynch Koshi

Then we lynch SL

That's all


Brilliant player that GB.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
December 06 2015 01:23 GMT
#1840
On December 06 2015 10:20 Koshi wrote:
If Chrome is fucking mafia. Imagine how good I fucking was D1 again.
I am really warming up to lynch Onegu --> Chrome.
Just because the fefe filter.

3 townreads:
-fefe talks to OO like he does to other townies.
-Interaction with GB abput scott is odd, especially if they are all 3 mafia. Really unseen.
-fefe didn't vote Vivax when TT was on the block.

While on the other hand:
-waffles on scott, defended him once, said he could be mafia a lot.
-ignores Onegu totally while having a fixation on the afkers
-has a boner for people who think Chrome is mafia (both Koshi and OO)


I can back off all this shit with posts from his filter obviously. But I would like if people would read fefe filter carefully and analyze it.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
December 06 2015 01:24 GMT
#1841
I cannot fucking believe how talented I am tbh.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
December 06 2015 01:58 GMT
#1845
On December 06 2015 10:56 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 06 2015 10:22 Koshi wrote:
No seriously. GB is going to give me shit if Chrome is mafia. While I said Chrome was mafia D1.

And how did GB reply? :
On November 27 2015 07:03 GlowingBear wrote:
On November 27 2015 07:01 marvellosity wrote:
damnit

maybe it is tt/chrome/marv after all


Tomorrow we lynch Tictock

Then we lynch Koshi

Then we lynch SL

That's all


Brilliant player that GB.


That was before the lynch on Vivax happened. And that's not even a response to your scum read on Chrom.

This was unfair, Koshi, come on.

it was during night. After Vivax.
But it is less fair.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
December 06 2015 02:24 GMT
#1847
Yeah, it is Onegu/Chrome most likely at this point in time.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
December 06 2015 02:28 GMT
#1848
I fucking told all of you on D1. Unbelievable.
Just reread my own filter.

Just fucking brilliant.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
December 06 2015 02:28 GMT
#1849
The stuff from D1 were so good. So good. Goddamnit. I got buddied.
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
December 06 2015 02:33 GMT
#1851
On December 06 2015 11:29 Tictock wrote:
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On December 06 2015 10:36 Onegu wrote:
the last page is koshi realizing that chrome is last mafia but wanting to confirm how bad he is a reading me.


Your suddenly very defensive...

Also sweet flip, sorry I was so waffely about it.

I'll be active tomorrow, today has been a fucking long day.

Pretty down to see Onegu flip, Scott flipping mafia makes it super likely the last member is Onegu. Still some chance GB or OO are mafia, I really doubt Chrom is the last mafia.

Onegu tomorrow, Prob OO after that, plenty of time for me to continue to tunnel GB.

I fucking hope you didn't read all the stuff I said yet.

GB is extremely unlikely reading fefe filter. And in general. Stop the shit with GB is mafia. He isn't. ffs.
OO is also more unlikely due to fefe filter. But possible.

Chrome on the other hand is super likely. His D1 was shit, the stuff we melded on D3 was actually good for him. So it pushed his own mafia agenda. And fefe had a strange fucking boner for people who wanted to lynch Chrom, but somehow was not pushing Chrom himself.


There is enough information in filters/thread to make actual cases now. Don't trust your own brain.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
December 06 2015 02:37 GMT
#1852
On November 26 2015 07:59 ANickelDrink wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2015 04:04 boxerfred wrote:
On November 25 2015 11:53 Fecalfeast wrote:
On November 25 2015 11:43 GlowingBear wrote:
On November 25 2015 11:39 ANickelDrink wrote:
On November 25 2015 11:35 Koshi wrote:
I wonder where Diablo II sits on my best games I played list. Under Warcraft III, C& C: Red alert, WoW, Dota. Somewhere there?

I played Diablo II so many hours. I'm relentlessly biased toward that game. Including LoD I'd put it in my top 3 easily up there with brood war and Heroes of newerth.

+ Show Spoiler +
HoN with a playerbase = best MOBA


LOL No.

Btw FF can you post with your original account just to make sure you are FF?

oh no oops wrong accouuuunntttt

was just building up my great theory how you're fakeclaiming being FF. neat, right?

anyone still being off-topic (like talking about D3 and shit) is scummy in my eyes.

koshi feels exactly like I got to know him in the banlist - spammy and yolo'y (does that even exist) so town


On November 25 2015 12:37 Chromatically wrote:
On November 25 2015 11:30 GlowingBear wrote:
Cool, some weak early reads:

Koshi looks townie for his tone. Especially when he makes the post of the town pyramid and the following one.

Chrom looks townie for thinking critically about the game.

SL looks scummy for this hard push on FF on a matter that isn't really alignment indicative.

Tictock looks scummy for commenting that SL may have a point but concluding that FF's thing isn't alignment indicative. If SL does have a point then it is alignment indicative. If it isn't alignment indicative, SL doesn't have a point. Therefore you just look you're posting to look contributive while actually being fluffy and pushing the matter nowhere

sicklucker I'm not sure about. I agree he could be mafia for his push over something which I agree wasn't alignment indicative, but I liked that he didn't back down about it when he came under pressure.

Ticktock I agree with your point, plus he just kind of came in and posted those non-opinions on FF and then peaced out.

Koshi I don't have a read on.


Let me expand on what I mean about OO:
On November 25 2015 07:58 ObviousOne wrote:
On November 25 2015 07:57 sicklucker wrote:
And yes i am role hunting

explain

On November 25 2015 08:07 ObviousOne wrote:
how can you be rolehunting when the op says everyone is vanilla?

On November 25 2015 08:10 ObviousOne wrote:
tbh it looks to me like you either a) lied about rolehunting when you meant smurfhunting and then stuck to your lie for whatever reason or b) didn't read the setup or c) you're mafia and just hinted at the hidden mechanic

sicklucker posts his stuff about FF's claim being weird and also makes a comment about rolehunting. OO jumps on the "rolehunting" part of it, which is the part that looks weird and is easy to jump on as mafia (I was interested in his read on FF from it). The third post is the one I particularly didn't like. The whole post says nothing at all (no conclusion or any point for the post), it seems like it's just a poor attempt to explain why he jumped on the rolehunting comment when it clearly didn't mean much.


this post feels totally forced and Im not sure if i like it.

blabla ask me questions im in thread although tired af


Couple questions, who is still being fluffy, or was when you made this post? I'd like to see who you're scumming based on the bolded.

Can you elaborate on what chrome's post is lacking or containing to make it seem forced to you?

The biggest fucking boner from Chrom. Literally if anybody said anything about Chrom fefe jumped on it.
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#1854
It's fucking Chrom. OMG. I reread his filter and everything he said about fefe....
It just clicks together.
Fucking piece of shit Onegu not playing pisses me off so much. Still want to lynch him just because I don't want to lose vs Onegu at all. And he already pulled the solo mafia victory once.

So I am ok with lynching chrom and Onegu.


DON'T BE FUCKING TARDS AND LYNCH OO, GB unless you got some insane good reasons. Look at the filters. Look at the fucking filters.
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December 06 2015 02:46 GMT
#1856
fefe his filter is pretty telling. He should improve that next time lol.

His push and interactions with OO really not feel mafia on mafia. (somebody please check this)
His interaction with GB on scott is impossible to be mafia on mafia over mafia.

His boner for Chrom his unnatural, just because he never actually says something interesting or odd about Chrom. It is just him jumping on posts around Chrom. Like... All the small things, even the things like being surprised that Chrom answered so well to OO.

Onegu is still possible out of the fefe filter as well. Like I said, fefe also focused a lot on the inactives. But never mentioned Onegu and constantly pushed boxer over the other 2 inacitves.
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December 06 2015 02:50 GMT
#1858
Oh and fefe voted for Chrome when TT could be lynched over Vivax and I didn't vote Vivax yet.
kinda makes TT almost 99% town.
Maybe more.
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#1861
sicklucker found that out 48 hours ago btw.
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#1867
I wished Chrom was here to help me so how wrong I am
I think Chrom is my last mafia at this point.

Onegu would be sweeter but Chrom fits better in the filters.
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#1868
On November 30 2015 02:38 Onegu wrote:
OK want to get this down.

Scum reads as of page 38

Chrome. TT. Sn0. Out of all of these Chrome is giving me the bigger heebie jeebies.


GB vivax unvote is really fucking wierd...

Do you remember what you thought back then? Why was Chrome mafia at that moment in the game.
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December 06 2015 13:21 GMT
#1869
recent game Chrom played as town:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/496215-mini-mafia-the-kinda-vanilla-experience?user=Chromatically&view=all

Way better start imo.
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#1870
I meant. He has a way better start in that game than here. In that game he is a pusher and not a controller.
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#1871
And he can actually remember his scumreads, and asks others on how to proceed and try to lynch mafia, not like here in which he forgets his scumreads, and then votes with his scumreads on a person he never thought was scummy.
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December 06 2015 13:24 GMT
#1872
Always go for Onegu and Chrom.
OO is the only other option. And I don't know... Read fefe filter to see if it is viable.
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December 06 2015 15:23 GMT
#1874
No.

ON THE FUCKING RECORD:

ONEGU IS STILL TOP TIER LYNCH
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#1876
Instead of answering my question and showing any form of goodwill you are being the cancer you fucking are. There is no fucking way you should be alive at lylo.
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#1877
MAKE SURE YOU FUCKING LYNCH ONEGU
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December 06 2015 16:58 GMT
#1878
Onegu first.
Always.
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#1879
Always lynch fucking Onegu.
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December 07 2015 05:57 GMT
#1930
Chromatically

Can you read fefe his filter and tell me why OO is mafia? GB, and OO look pretty good from that.
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#1931
On December 07 2015 04:12 Tictock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 06 2015 10:20 Koshi wrote:
If Chrome is fucking mafia. Imagine how good I fucking was D1 again.
I am really warming up to lynch Onegu --> Chrome.
Just because the fefe filter.

fefe talks to OO like he does to other townies.
Interaction with GB abput scott is odd, especially if they are all 3 mafia. Really unseen.
fefe didn't vote Vivax when TT was on the block.

While on the other hand:
-waffles on scott, defended him once, said he could be mafia a lot.
-ignores Onegu totally while having a fixation on the afkers
-has a boner for people who think Chrome is mafia (both Koshi and OO)


I'm on board with most of what you'r talking about here Koshi, but I think you're jumping to conclusions a bit easily.

Besides that one interaction with GB there was almost no mention of GB in FF's filter. GB did defend FF fairly hard regarding the smurf stuff early on (mostly kus he pushed anyone who thought it was scummy). Neither of them really made a read on the other nor interacted before the stuff you're talking about.

The Chrom stuff is super weak and I think your jumping on it more because of
Show nested quote +
On December 06 2015 10:20 Koshi wrote:
If Chrome is fucking mafia. Imagine how good I fucking was D1 again.

Than FF's filter.

Whats convincing you that FF isn't just fence sitting regarding OO vs Chrom? Kus to me he goes back and forth on both of them like he doesn't really care if either get lynched.

I like TT. He is a pretty cool guy.
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#1932
So I will back off from Chrom and reread stuff. GB... hmm. It is possible. I guess.

GB/OO need a good scrubbing. Onegu still cancer.
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#1933
##vote: GlowingBear

So marv/TT can vote if they want. I don't know if they can switch their votes but w.e.
GB has been extremely lackluster after D1. And I really don't have anything else than that mafia on mafia about 3rd mafia thig that is not enough tbh.


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#1934
I also want to point out that mafia can hold their shot. So if the message always pops up it could be that mafia hold their shot to look good. Basically only I could have taken that gamble so far but still. Good to know
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December 07 2015 06:12 GMT
#1935
I honestly don't see who would shoot TT except OO/GB.

Chrom/Onegu:
Could you tell me how you perceived TT this game? If you read his posts, what did you think? In general.
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#1936
I would call GB his EoD1 townie. But he kinda oversold it during the night. imo that wasn't townie.
His dumb argument yesterday about him not being mafia I kinda ignored but it was kinda horrible.

Ugh having to believe somebody as TT above my own reads is annoying. :/
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December 07 2015 10:18 GMT
#1937
Onegu isn't smart enough to kill TT.
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#1938
I was pushing GB pretty hard the night I got shot. Well. I had him on spot 2 for a long time.

Dnu. The thing after nk with GB going "WTF" was also GB biting his tongue. Didn't really try to explain it. Just holding back and looked afraid to say something "wrong".
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#1939
Why did GB vote himself for a second? I must have missed that and I can't read filters.............................. oh well.
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#1942
ah. Thought so. Would be sick if they even can start a wagon.
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December 07 2015 11:25 GMT
#1945
On December 07 2015 20:21 ObviousOne wrote:
koshi did your rant yesterday about onegu mean we're lynching him today or do i need to read gb's filter post-haste?

I don't know what post-haste means, but I think I might lynch GB today. But I got to read shit myself. TT really opened my eyes with those last posts.
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December 07 2015 11:40 GMT
#1947
Vivax is a pretty cool guy.
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#1948
So. TT voted GB. And then marv devoted in the morning.

...

These spirits haunt me.
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#1951
On December 07 2015 21:27 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 07 2015 20:40 Koshi wrote:
Vivax is a pretty cool guy.


ya he is. Remember when I told you fuckers not to lynch him?

I remember me yelling to lynch Chrom and that Vivax and TT were townie but because a bunch of fuckers wanted to lynch between Vivax and TT I decided to side with the biggest fucker.
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#1952
Oh boy. I had so many good reasons to think GB was mafia on D4.
The thing with him talking to marv during the night and getting slapped down into marv dieing was pretty good.
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December 07 2015 13:53 GMT
#1953
And in sicklucker holy grail post GB was also mentioned.
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December 07 2015 13:54 GMT
#1954
And then TT dies after he posted a bunch about GB.



If the last mafia isn't GB that is some really coincidental shit.
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December 07 2015 14:29 GMT
#1956
TT is awake.
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December 07 2015 15:48 GMT
#1960
Don't be a retard GB. It annoys the living shit out of me.
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#1962
Holy shit not sure if serious. I am just going to lunch your dumb ass.

TT his reasons for you being mafia are good.

The reason I had for you not being mafia is wifom. I actually have more reasons why you are mafia.

The reason why you say you arent mafia are some of the most retarded dumb idiotic bullshit reasons I ever saw. And your scumhunting has been even worse the last 5 cycles.
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December 07 2015 17:43 GMT
#1963
It is impossible to see you as not mafia when you even lie about the fact tt was not confirmed town in the fucking sentence in which you claim to have no reason to kill tt.
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#1964
Nha. I am not even trying to explain why that sentence was a pile of shit. It was lies upon misdirection upon shit that shouldnt concern a townie.
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#1966
literally nobody wanted to lynch tt after that fefe didn't vote Vivax D1. On top of that everybody didn't want to lynch him anyway. Including you. So could just as well be confirmed town.

But to claim to be the least likely person to kill TT as mafia because:
1) it is better for mafia!gb to keep somebody alive who will vote and tunnel him all the time, using good argumentation.
2) he would kill a confirmed town who has the biggest chance of getting docsaved again and giving town another ml

is 29 bridges too far.

because
1) it is better for literally all other mafia!players exept OO to have TT in the fucking game.
2) it is literally the same for all other mafia!players to make a call between docsave dodge or killing 99,999% confirmed town.


And that is beside the point.

What didn't you do so far, and this is something everybody would do on fucking D5 if he cba to bother up in this game:
1) confirm your earlier suspicions and vote who you think is mafia
or if you can't do 1)
2) look for the fucking mafia and try to figure out who it is.

What you did do:
1) be completely and utterly surprised about a text about a saved shot, couldn't imagine wtf was going on. (even though with 1 braincell you could figure out the only possibility)
2) make 0 sense about how you are not mafia
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December 07 2015 18:52 GMT
#1967
i don't even know if above posts makes any sense. cba to reread.


tldr: you are equally useless as onegu, and that for 4 days already. Really, wtf have you been doing GB? Can't you just fucking concede if this is how you want to play it out. It's fucking pathetic. which is in perfect line of how the mafia team played par day 1
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#1968
At least Onegu is trying to re-ignite my hate furnace. But as a completely changed man his futile attempts will not succeed.
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#1969
And the most annoying thing about you GB is that you come in this thread pretending you are some sort of fucking town Messiah who is going to explain how the future lynches need to go using as little logic as possible, while feigning some sort of shitty cluelessness about how to solve the game except using PoE, and being offended if called mafia.

it doesn't fucking fit.

I classified it under GB is a dumbass I should ignore because he is not mafia because marv told me and he did play pretty well D1 and fefe filter had him somewhat cleared on a technically but seriously all those reasons are fucking shit and TT woke me up. Not only by dieing but also those posts he made. Which you read before the night ended.


So unless you want to make a real effort you can really just stfu and go away GB. town or mafia.
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#1970
On December 08 2015 02:30 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 08 2015 00:48 Koshi wrote:
Don't be a retard GB. It annoys the living shit out of me.


Tell me what's wrong in my thought process

Tell me why would I fucking kill TT under the current circumstances.

Like... You come into this thread looking for me to explain why you would kill 99,99999% confirmed town TT as mafia!GB. TT who has been gunning for your ass since D2 and made a couple really good posts on Chrom being town and you being mafia during the night.

Instead of fucking looking for mafia. Which you still haven't fucking done and we are 24 hours into D fucking 5.


What fucking game are you playing?
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December 08 2015 08:18 GMT
#1987
I agree with you Chrom. Already read GB response before going to work.

##unvote
##vote: Onegu
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#1990
##unvote
##vote: Onegu


The TT kill incriminates OO over Onegu. But OO has a couple good towntells (dumbtell & a couple townie posts) I am at this point a bit indecisive between OO and Onegu.

Onegu his 2 biggest towntells:
1) Does nothing as town:
Is pretty much WIFOM with him going to the hospital and everybody yelling he was possible town for doing nothing. He milked his meta out hard. Also, he came back at a point it was the most beneficial for him as mafia. Voted Scott to belong with the town, even tried to connect with people. The point he started playing was a perfect mafia moment and not the perfect town moment.

2) Is fucking with me pretty hard:
He already did that as mafia once. He is just pure cancer. Don't think that makes him town at all. He didn't do it as town yet, yet did it once as mafia.
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December 08 2015 08:26 GMT
#1991
On December 08 2015 17:25 Chromatically wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 08 2015 17:18 Koshi wrote:
I agree with you Chrom. Already read GB response before going to work.

##unvote
##vote: Onegu

Yeah, this is fine too if people would prefer it. I don't think the order matters too much now

Going to read think about it a bit more... TT kill kinda points towards OO.
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December 08 2015 08:28 GMT
#1992
sl had a couple points about OO being town in the voting thread. There simply are none for Onegu. fefe filter is extremely quiet about Onegu while focusing so much on afkers. OO at least get pushed and then abandoned.

I agree it is suspicious coincidental suddenly mafia saves snow over OO...
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#1993
Yeah, it is between Onegu and OO for today. Fuck...
I really have no clue. Might really point out more to OO.
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#1996
nha. I think there is enough information to make the correct vote. If there isn't enough information to be 80-90% sure it is just Onegu. Which I think there isn't.


Both GB and OO have townie points.
Both have mafia coincidentalities:
OO --> mafia fefe voted snow over him. I think this could be explained though.
GB --> all night kills incriminate him.


But Onegu is pure cancer without townie treats. Sadly also without mafia treats?
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December 08 2015 09:24 GMT
#1997
And the little things people might think Onegu is town for don't count for shit. It is all fabricated by Onegu, which he would do as fucking mafia.
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#1998
On December 08 2015 17:41 ObviousOne wrote:
Pick me if it helps to solve the game later in the same way I wanted to lynch Onegu d1

You have my axe

I think you should move your vote off Chrom.
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December 08 2015 09:31 GMT
#2000
Nha. I think Onegu is the right call. We got far enough lynching the trash. Got to keep at it.
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#2001
↑ That was typed in general. Not to anybody in particular
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December 08 2015 09:33 GMT
#2002
and with that I voted.
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December 08 2015 10:41 GMT
#2004
btw chrom. don't you think you would have been shot instead of sicklucker if OO is mafia?
bit wifomy but worth thinking about.
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December 08 2015 10:45 GMT
#2005
On December 08 2015 17:10 Chromatically wrote:
Could be town because:
- Really cared about the D1 lynch, which we know now was 2 town. Going back and rereading his D1 filter reminded me of this. It's not impossible that he's mafia and just faked it really well, but the fact that he clearly had an opinion that he was pushing a lot (like really trying to get people to vote TT) when he had no reason to as mafia is a pretty big point in his favor.
- Just generally seems to be thinking about the game and trying to solve it (true that this has died off a lot recently, but there still was a lot D1/N1/D2).
- Some "soft" interactions with FF that don't feel particularly mafia-mafia to me.

This is also a pretty good list for why GB is town btw.
I don't know why he decided to stop really caring about this game.

Going to reread TT his arguments again.
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December 08 2015 10:50 GMT
#2006
Nha. Onegu needs to die. The only one who has no reason to be town except for fabricated made up reasons that he easily could have manipulated as mafia and DO NOT HELPED TOWN EVER.
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December 08 2015 10:51 GMT
#2007
Onegu bois. Just pull that bandage first.
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#2008
fefe filter really points out to afk mafia team. and he was setting up bf to be lynched as first afk. Why not bf and Onegu?


Really guys. Onegu first.
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#2015
Lynch OO tomorrow. I believe it is between OO and Onegu anyway. Today it is Onegu.
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#2016
I am sure he is the best bet atm.
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#2020
On December 08 2015 20:36 sicklucker wrote:
KOSHI I THINK YOUR BLINDED BY HATE. I GET IT BUT YOU ARE BLIND SON

I am actually pretty calm about this btw. DotA training. Onegu is the most likely to be mafia. He played like mafia would play since D4.

It is pretty awesome you are all falling for the mindgames though.


Think about the facts only.

GB and OO have town features. A list why they are town.

Onegu does not have that. He only has meta (which he could have abused this game due to irl hospital visit) and then the fact he taunts me and gets townreads for but that is pure mindgames and fabricated by Onegu himself. It is not something townie, it is something you think he wouldn't do as town, or "people" in general wouldn't do. But he is doing it. Partly because I have been shitting on him D2-D3 probably.

Remember how Onegu always said he was VT in the early game and called it his town seal? He broke that in XXX as mafia goon. The guy uses the fact it is more likely to roll town to create a meta and then abuse that town meta as mafia.
This time he abused his uselessness because:
1) people very early said he was town for doing nothing (but even that is not true)
2) he couldn't do anything regardless of alignment because he had irl issues.

So he is tricking you all.



Don't be tricked. Kill Onegu.
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#2021
On December 08 2015 20:50 ObviousOne wrote:
Does mylo change for the worse if I forget to vote today?

Don't do this. Just vote Onegu.
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December 08 2015 11:55 GMT
#2022
Guys, you have all been posting pretty clean and good analysis posts.

1 guy didn't.

Don't be fucking tricked.


This is why fefe didn't play.

It is fucking Onegu.
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December 08 2015 11:55 GMT
#2023
Kill fucking Onegu.

Then let the real games begin in lylo.
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December 08 2015 11:55 GMT
#2024
Please guys. I beg you.
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December 08 2015 11:55 GMT
#2025
Remove the cancer.
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December 08 2015 12:00 GMT
#2028
Sicklucker. Please... The only reason the benevolent ghosts unvoted is because marv does not believe GB is mafia. Please... Let's leave GB for lylo. Kill Onegu.
I had a good night of sleep.
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December 08 2015 12:02 GMT
#2029
On December 08 2015 21:00 GlowingBear wrote:
Although I think Onegu has a good shot at flipping town...

put it in words why you think that.
I will put a reason for why OO, Chrom and GB are town next to each one you give why Onegu is town.

But not the useless meta. Because I know the useless Onegu meta as town and this is not it. It is not this.
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December 08 2015 12:02 GMT
#2030
I said that from the start. The useless Onegu town meta is not this.
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December 08 2015 12:08 GMT
#2032
On December 08 2015 21:07 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 08 2015 21:02 Koshi wrote:
On December 08 2015 21:00 GlowingBear wrote:
Although I think Onegu has a good shot at flipping town...

put it in words why you think that.
I will put a reason for why OO, Chrom and GB are town next to each one you give why Onegu is town.

But not the useless meta. Because I know the useless Onegu meta as town and this is not it. It is not this.


Actually it's a town tell that I still need to confirm but I think town Onegu is more prone to waste his votes as town than as Mafia. Usually, as Mafia, he uses his votes consciously to help his team. Here he is just constantly voting you, doing whatever.

Because it was town on town the entire time?
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
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December 08 2015 12:09 GMT
#2033
Go to the mafia list of games:

M][N] Carnaval do Brasil Mafia Town Vanilla Killed Night 3
[M][N] Holy Guardians Chapter 1 Town Vanilla Endgamed Day 5
[M][T] Witchcraft Mini Mafia III Town Acolyte Survived Night 2
[N] Mafia in the Himalayas Town Miller Lynched Day 6
[M][N] Lost But Not Forgotten Mini Mafia Town Vanilla Survived Day 2
[M][N] Mini Mafia Down Under 3 Town Named Town Survived Day 6
[M][T] II Cannons Mini Mafia Town Vanilla Killed Night 3
[M][N] Completely Normal Generic Mini Mafia Town Vanilla Killed Night 1
[S] Student Mafia XV Town Vanilla Survived Night 1

Onegu town meta is not doing absolutely nothing and being a disruptive town. He actually gives some dumb insight on the game. Totally uninterested sometimes but also sometimes enjoys solving the game.


There is nothing like that here.


It is PURE FUCKING MINDGAMES:

waste votes
harass koshi
meta old games


all mafia mindgames.
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December 08 2015 12:52 GMT
#2035
possibly.
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December 08 2015 12:53 GMT
#2036
a lot of this is probably just dumb luck. Just like this town meta thing.
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December 08 2015 14:55 GMT
#2038
Looking at today posting I almost can't believe it is either Chrom/OO or GB anyway.
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December 08 2015 15:03 GMT
#2041
Grr. I wonder who this Vengeful spirit is. It concerns me a bit because I can't believe it is Vivax. Really? He still cares? Maybe he does. But why instant vote Onegu? He cares that much? Kinda odd.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
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December 08 2015 15:04 GMT
#2042
On December 08 2015 20:47 ObviousOne wrote:
You and me were the only two to really gain from shooting TT and it's not me

Resting on your laurels since fecal died

Nobody wants to kill chrom with me

Looked at fecal and Onegu filters so it's either you or chrom

Or Koshi is god tier mafia like I said before but he deserves to win if that's the case

I like this post a lot.

And the one he said he had a feeling it was Chrom against better judgement felt townie as well.
I had a good night of sleep.
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December 08 2015 15:16 GMT
#2048
On December 09 2015 00:15 sicklucker wrote:
screw this were killing OO today . onegu will probably forget to vote and get mod killed anyway

No. Onegu is the only right lynch.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
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December 08 2015 19:44 GMT
#2060
I ll be here as well. If you are not sure you are here you can switch already.
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December 08 2015 21:28 GMT
#2064
##unvote
##vote: ObviousOne
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Koshi
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December 08 2015 21:29 GMT
#2065
I cannot believe one of those 2 isn't mafia.
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December 08 2015 21:38 GMT
#2066
start swapping votes.
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December 08 2015 21:40 GMT
#2068
##unvote
##vote Onegu
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December 08 2015 21:41 GMT
#2070
stfu
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December 08 2015 21:41 GMT
#2071
Before your flip I can be totally honest

You are shit.
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December 08 2015 21:58 GMT
#2085
[image loading]
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December 08 2015 22:18 GMT
#2098
On November 27 2015 07:48 GlowingBear wrote:
Why did you waste your vote FF?


GB or OO tomorrow....
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December 08 2015 22:19 GMT
#2100
I'll flip a coin or follow thread sentiment. Just had to get Onegu out.
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December 09 2015 22:53 GMT
#2126
I actually wanted to vote chrom for pressure but TT/marv take rrsponsability.

I will auto vote gb tomorrow
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Koshi
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December 09 2015 22:54 GMT
#2127
Sleep time now.
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December 10 2015 08:39 GMT
#2134
On December 10 2015 13:19 Chromatically wrote:
What do you think Koshi? I need someone to tell me I'm being tunneled if I am.

We agreed on this yesterday though so I assume you still think so?

I think it was a pretty good save because if GB isn't mafia you probably are
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December 10 2015 08:41 GMT
#2135
I don't know anymore. I have given everything yesterday on Onegu. I cba to pick between GB and OO. Only Onegu had to die. I can lose to both OO and GB... Like.. I just don't know who to pick.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
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December 10 2015 08:43 GMT
#2136
If OO is mafia the loss sucks more though. We had him on D2 and GB played more townie early days.

I don't know if it is mafia!OO playing better because the win is getting closer, or mafia!GB playing worse because it has been going bad for mafia...

It is a bit of a contradiction but it depends on who you see as mafia.
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Koshi
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December 10 2015 08:44 GMT
#2137
Problem is nothing really helps us. nightkills incriminate both equally much. Maybe a little bit more GB? No clue.
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December 10 2015 08:45 GMT
#2138
I think I am fine with GB.

##vote: GB

If we lose to OO, it sucks for you Chromsie. And GB
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Koshi
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December 10 2015 12:53 GMT
#2142
I agree my brain is used up.
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December 10 2015 12:53 GMT
#2143
Also, I just blame marv.
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December 10 2015 12:53 GMT
#2144
Also, if you aren't mafia I hope it is Chrome.
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Koshi
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December 10 2015 13:06 GMT
#2146
I did. I removed cancer from this game and I am really really happy about that.
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Koshi
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December 10 2015 13:22 GMT
#2148
I know. That is why I am partially ok with losing as well as long as I sheep.
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Koshi
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December 10 2015 13:22 GMT
#2149
Would make it 3/3 games mafia wins with 1 member.
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December 10 2015 13:23 GMT
#2150
But we got the 50/50 on GB/OO and then ghosts can protect somebody if Chrom is mafia.
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Koshi
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December 10 2015 13:23 GMT
#2151
So tomorrow auto lynch Chrom. Today the 50/50.
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Koshi
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December 10 2015 13:27 GMT
#2153
hahahahahaha Onegu still voting me.

True vengeful
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Koshi
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December 10 2015 13:44 GMT
#2156
look gb... If I say something it is true. So better use your brain and figure it out.


I am sorry bro. I love how you try. But you wont persuade me. Sorry.
I am really sorry about this. But it is out of my hands.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
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December 10 2015 13:56 GMT
#2158
3-1 atm
we lynch you, you claim to be town
2-1 in night
spirits can save somebody, chrom was saved so they will have to pick somebody out of koshi/OO this time (I think they can't save twice same in a row and that the scummer is retarded but w.e)
2-1 in day
we lynch Chrom because mafia would target Chrom.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
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December 10 2015 13:57 GMT
#2159
So spirits pick 1 out of Koshi and OO and if they are successful we lynch Chrom.

50/50 baby
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December 10 2015 13:57 GMT
#2160
If OO is mafia he wins
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Koshi
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December 10 2015 15:36 GMT
#2164
No need to hard try as mafia here OO. You are just looking smug.
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December 10 2015 16:44 GMT
#2167
Chromie. If OO is mafia here I will grant you 1 voucher which you can use in/during a future game and I will stop calling you mafia all together.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
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December 10 2015 16:45 GMT
#2168
It saddens me that the Pyramid if Love is not voting together on the final day.
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December 10 2015 16:45 GMT
#2169
For me it is 33% chrom/gb/oo tbh.
Surprising how bad I am.
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December 10 2015 16:46 GMT
#2170
Future scumteams should stop respect killing me.
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December 10 2015 16:49 GMT
#2172
holy fuck I can't handle that pressure. seriously. my mind is blanco..... dafuq
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December 10 2015 16:49 GMT
#2173
chromie are you serious here.....
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December 10 2015 16:56 GMT
#2174
I am not even going to lie and say I would really consider chromie to be the last.
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December 10 2015 16:59 GMT
#2177
On December 11 2015 01:58 Chromatically wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 11 2015 01:44 Koshi wrote:
Chromie. If OO is mafia here I will grant you 1 voucher which you can use in/during a future game and I will stop calling you mafia all together.

If OO is mafia I expect to be worshiped by everyone postgame

tbf. I also was voting OO over snow on D2.
seriously. marv. I hope you are still fucking playing.

Grrr. It really should be OO tbh.
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December 10 2015 17:00 GMT
#2178
You were never shot Chromie. That is why I think GB is a bit better fit due to nk targets.
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December 10 2015 19:35 GMT
#2182
TT was going hard vs OO/GB and was not considering anybody else. He had hard townreads on Onegu/Chrom.
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December 11 2015 08:23 GMT
#2184
Yeah.
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December 11 2015 14:54 GMT
#2192
Sorry bro. It is out of my hands.
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December 11 2015 14:55 GMT
#2193
I only feel sorry for Chromie if OO is mafia.
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December 11 2015 15:12 GMT
#2196
On December 12 2015 00:10 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 11 2015 23:55 Koshi wrote:
I only feel sorry for Chromie if OO is mafia.


And don't come and blame me for my inactivity in the End Game. I've been lurking but very often I came back to the thread to contribute.

I've also posted every reason why you should read me as town (since nobody had the brains to figure it out) but you chose to ignore it.

So if we lose, and if we lose to OO, you're the main one to blame, just because you couldn't use your brain.

Still the only reason you have to scum read me is that my activity and a little of my interest in the game fell down. You have nothing else. It's laughable.

No. I actually know all the reasons.
tbh I would probably lynch OO over you if it was solely up to me.
Maybe.

It's annoying. But like I said.
it is like 33% each for me.
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Koshi
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December 11 2015 15:13 GMT
#2197
I take my responsibility. But yeah.. sux.
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December 11 2015 15:40 GMT
#2198
I would give you the win just to not give it to OO who is pretty fucking smug.

But I think you should plead to marv/TT.

I wont change my vote.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
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December 11 2015 16:03 GMT
#2200
You overselling the TT lynch on N1 kinda killed you. That moment was really dumb to me.
Well it was the overselling into the complete silence after it.

TT mafia
Koshi mafia
sicklucker mafia

And then you just kept knocking on marv his door without any decent reasoning. Just dumbness. And then marv dies and you completely let it go...

I don't know. I could see you do it as town as well though.



I think the nks also incriminate you. But second in the list is OO and in theory that would make it good nks for OO as well... I don't know bro.

33%
33%
33%
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Koshi
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December 11 2015 16:03 GMT
#2201
I won't change my vote though.
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Koshi
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December 11 2015 16:04 GMT
#2202
Chrom not dieing also points a bit more to you than OO
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December 11 2015 16:05 GMT
#2203
But your D1 was really good. In the lynch knowing I should lynch TT and not Vivax because Chrom was my scumread.

arfff
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December 11 2015 16:53 GMT
#2204
Also GB, during the entire game you kinda lazy townread Chrome. Except in the past 2 days he was suddenly "too clean"
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December 11 2015 16:54 GMT
#2205
It's small things. But reasons why I could lynch you
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December 11 2015 22:02 GMT
#2210
On November 27 2015 21:22 Koshi wrote:
1) I hope marv isn't mafia
2) I hope Chrom is mafia
3) I hope TT isn't mafia

If 2/3 are correct I am not too devestated.

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Koshi
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December 11 2015 22:02 GMT
#2211
Fucking knew it.
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December 11 2015 22:03 GMT
#2214
Ah well. GG. Dnu. Maybe I should have pushed Chromie but dnu. Didn't feel like doing it.

D1 I was total boss. Rest was terribad. Dnu. Could I have lynched Chromie? I don't think so.
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December 11 2015 22:04 GMT
#2216
I also don't understand why ghost can't have extra try on save tonight.

That was practically 50% of my tactic for today.
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December 11 2015 22:05 GMT
#2219
Ghost save into autolynch Chrom was my plan.
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December 11 2015 22:06 GMT
#2222
On December 12 2015 07:05 Half the Sky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2015 07:05 Sn0_Man wrote:
Yeah doesn't ghost save make it not endgame?
too late now ofc


No. There is no protection when there are less than 4 players.

smart rule.
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December 11 2015 22:07 GMT
#2225
awww I knew it. I just knew Chromie was last mafia. ffs. But I couldn't throw the game on a hunch and then see GB or OO be mafia.
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December 11 2015 22:07 GMT
#2226
On December 12 2015 07:06 Tictock wrote:
GG Chrom, you fucking deserved that win.

Really piss poor town play in a lot of ways this game, I know I didn't help being so tunneled on GB but I couldn't make sense of any townie motivation from him all game.

Onegu lynch was pretty bad though guys, me and SL pointed out so many reasons why it made no sense for him to be scum this game. But with so many low hanging fruit and such terrible activity this was a rough game.

Says the guy who said it was OO or GB and told me IT COULD NEVER BE Chrom and I was superwrong about it
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December 11 2015 22:08 GMT
#2227
I can give you a million better reasons why GB or OO were not mafia over Onegu.
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December 11 2015 22:08 GMT
#2228
Hence the 33% endgame on all 3 suspects.
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December 11 2015 22:08 GMT
#2230
Hence me yelling Chrom was mafia each and every day for 1 hour.
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December 11 2015 22:09 GMT
#2231
Damn you Chromie. Damn you.

Now the tunnel will just need to happen each game.
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Koshi
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December 11 2015 22:10 GMT
#2232
D1 mafia lynch denied by marv.
Slightly erotic story promised and not delivered.


jeez.
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December 11 2015 22:11 GMT
#2233
On December 12 2015 07:06 Tictock wrote:
GG Chrom, you fucking deserved that win.

Really piss poor town play in a lot of ways this game, I know I didn't help being so tunneled on GB but I couldn't make sense of any townie motivation from him all game.

Onegu lynch was pretty bad though guys, me and SL pointed out so many reasons why it made no sense for him to be scum this game. But with so many low hanging fruit and such terrible activity this was a rough game.

No seriously. How can you say something like this when you never ever would have fucking voted the mafia in this game?
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December 11 2015 22:12 GMT
#2234
"I would never ever voted or found the last mafia in this game, but the townie you guys lynched was so much more townie than all the townies I would lynch"
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December 11 2015 22:12 GMT
#2235
GB bro. We should have lynched Chromie.


Blame marv and TT for making it impossible.
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December 11 2015 22:12 GMT
#2237
God damnit!
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December 11 2015 22:14 GMT
#2238
GOD DAMNIT I KNEW IT WAS YOU CHROMIE. I KNEW IT. I JUST DIDN4T WANT TO THROW THIS GAME. ARFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFffffffffffffffffffff
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December 11 2015 22:14 GMT
#2240
On December 12 2015 07:14 Tictock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2015 07:08 Koshi wrote:
Hence me yelling Chrom was mafia each and every day for 1 hour.


Problem is nobody ever did much to prove it. Sure it was a possibility but what made it more likely than OO or GB?

Yelling about it and giving out reasons and explanations why are totally different things.

It actually helped Chrom a ton that this was such a low activity game and that one of his teammates never really played. Gave us very little to look at after lynching Scott and FF in terms of association.

Read my D1 case on him. It had 15 reasons.
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December 11 2015 22:16 GMT
#2241
No seriously. I yelled to lynch Chromie. Many times D1. And I had a good case.
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December 11 2015 22:16 GMT
#2242
27 pages though... I am not searching for it.
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December 11 2015 22:18 GMT
#2244
And I FUCKING KNEW IT ON D1. Best fucking cases ever.


And then after reading the fefe filter I knew it once again. It was so obvious on how fefe had a boner for Chrom..............................................




OMG
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December 11 2015 22:19 GMT
#2245
On December 12 2015 07:17 Tictock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2015 07:12 Koshi wrote:
GB bro. We should have lynched Chromie.


Blame marv and TT for making it impossible.


How did we make it impossible?

Me and marv did a shit ton of reevaluation and looking at this game in our QT.

More than town did the last 2 days of play.

But w/e Koshi you put more faith in a Vote with no idea of the mechanics behind it than your your own reads and want to blame us.

Though tbf to you you didn't really have anyone to talk too, which is why I say town played pretty shitty this game.

Well. I am pretty obnoxious but I am not going to go after Chrom when there is marv watching the game and saying it is 100% GB.

You know.. Spirit messages and shit.
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December 11 2015 22:21 GMT
#2246
Maybe not 100%, but going after Chrom when literally everybody else (xcept GB) said it was impossible to be Chrom...


Now I can just "gloat" endgame??


Dnu.


It didn't feel right to go after Chromie. Even though dem hunches said it was chromie.
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December 11 2015 22:21 GMT
#2247
Evul mafia winning 3 in a row. 1 mafia member standing.





jeezus.
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December 11 2015 22:24 GMT
#2250
On December 06 2015 11:28 Koshi wrote:
I fucking told all of you on D1. Unbelievable.
Just reread my own filter.

Just fucking brilliant.

I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
December 11 2015 22:24 GMT
#2251
On December 06 2015 10:24 Koshi wrote:
I cannot fucking believe how talented I am tbh.

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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
December 11 2015 22:26 GMT
#2253
On December 06 2015 11:33 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 06 2015 11:29 Tictock wrote:
On December 06 2015 10:36 Onegu wrote:
the last page is koshi realizing that chrome is last mafia but wanting to confirm how bad he is a reading me.


Your suddenly very defensive...

Also sweet flip, sorry I was so waffely about it.

I'll be active tomorrow, today has been a fucking long day.

Pretty down to see Onegu flip, Scott flipping mafia makes it super likely the last member is Onegu. Still some chance GB or OO are mafia, I really doubt Chrom is the last mafia.

Onegu tomorrow, Prob OO after that, plenty of time for me to continue to tunnel GB.

I fucking hope you didn't read all the stuff I said yet.

GB is extremely unlikely reading fefe filter. And in general. Stop the shit with GB is mafia. He isn't. ffs.
OO is also more unlikely due to fefe filter. But possible.

Chrome on the other hand is super likely. His D1 was shit, the stuff we melded on D3 was actually good for him. So it pushed his own mafia agenda. And fefe had a strange fucking boner for people who wanted to lynch Chrom, but somehow was not pushing Chrom himself.


There is enough information in filters/thread to make actual cases now. Don't trust your own brain.

I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
December 11 2015 22:26 GMT
#2254
On November 27 2015 05:30 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 27 2015 03:28 Chromatically wrote:
Well, I have to go for thanksgiving festivities and I don't think I'll be back before deadline. I feel good about a Vivax lynch for the reasons I said before, and I don't see how he can possibly be so sure on TT over essentially one post.

##Unvote
##Vote: Vivax

Happy thanksgiving everyone!


red: I will be back if it fits my mafia agenda.
bolded: Chrom was ok with a TT lynch...... Why can't Vivax be sure? This is how you push people D1. You push em and try to get them lynched.


Chrom suspect list:

OO
TT
Marv

And then he sheeps marv and TT onto Vivax?????????????????????

On November 27 2015 06:30 Koshi wrote:
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On November 27 2015 06:13 ANickelDrink wrote:
Koshi can you point out things I've missed on chrome?

-Tictock avoids talking about him even though he does the same thing as GB and vivax

-marv doesn't talk about chrome

-OO gives chrome an easy town read? More of an agreement with GB

-your scumteam in marv/TT/chrome are all on vivax

-Chrome votes with two of his suspects


That's not a bad list tbh but I think it relies too heavily on association.

I'm more uncomfortable about BF being on vivax than anything at this point


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On November 27 2015 05:13 Koshi wrote:
Chrom has way more of those really unspoken reads:
On November 25 2015 12:42 Chromatically wrote:
On November 25 2015 12:27 ANickelDrink wrote:
like if it's not alignment indicative then he can't really push the discussion anywhere since there's nowhere for it to go.

If he had just said "I see what you mean but..." instead of "You have a point" it would be saying the same thing, no?

besides he actually said
On November 25 2015 09:04 Tictock wrote:

Gunna put this down as slightly suspect but possibly NAI for now.

I guess my problem with the post is more of the fact that it says nothing at all in so many lines. It's not so much that it's a contradiction -> "gg ez scum", but more of the fact that he says "you might have a point" and then waffles for a while and then says "possibly NAI".

That is mafia knowing he is talking bullshit and then goes "I guess it could be this" (but in practice he knows it isn't)


On November 25 2015 12:37 Chromatically wrote:
sicklucker I'm not sure about. I agree he could be mafia for his push over something which I agree wasn't alignment indicative, but I liked that he didn't back down about it when he came under pressure.

Ticktock I agree with your point, plus he just kind of came in and posted those non-opinions on FF and then peaced out.

Koshi I don't have a read on.

Look at how he talks about sl, same shit again: I can see your point BUT yabbyabbayabba. A townie would not always see 2 sides of the story like Chrom seems to do. Especially at the start of the game.


dnu, looks like he is pushing an agenda with the TT/Vivax stuff as well. Suddenly he jumps on that topic and NOTHING IS LEFT ABOUT HIS OO READ? He doesn't even mention it.



What is your opinion on this?

I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
December 11 2015 22:27 GMT
#2255
Man... I started doubting myself cuz it was D6 and I was still alive.

But seriously.


I am boss.
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
December 11 2015 22:27 GMT
#2256
wp. Chromie. wp.
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
December 11 2015 22:35 GMT
#2258
Oh shouldn't have read the Spirit QT. Baddies are being bad in there.
Really funny how people think it is "unreasonable" by me to lynch town!Onegu over town!OO or town!GB


While I have been giving good cases on Chrom. (as only one in the entire game. literally 4-5 cases and 5-10 reasons). And those where not even being considered to be true.
Well maybe considered. But in every case your own lynch (marv-->Vivax D1, TT--->GB D4-5) was the hallelujah case I should listen to
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
December 11 2015 22:40 GMT
#2259
Oh boy. You even saved Chrome because he was the 'most townie"

I thought it was because you couldn't consecutive heal and you wanted to go for the 50/50 because you had Chrome as second mafia.
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
December 11 2015 22:41 GMT
#2260
While complaining I lynch obvious town Onegu.
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
December 11 2015 22:41 GMT
#2261
hahaha
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
December 11 2015 22:42 GMT
#2262
Like imagine I lynch Chrome D6 and it is GB after all.


I can't take that responsibility.



That's obnoxious on a level I haven't reached yet.
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
December 14 2015 19:00 GMT
#2316
I am still sick to my stomach I didn't just vote Chrom. Now that the game is over I don't understand why I didn't follow the million good reasons I had for him to be scum. God damnit the fefe filter and D1 was so obvious....
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
December 14 2015 19:08 GMT
#2317
That being said.

I want to thank Rels and Cohost for the game. Really like the idea of the ghosts being the blue role.

I think that the Vengeful spirit idea was stupid. But luckily it didn't have any impact, but it was stupid because alignment changes are THE FUCKING WORST MECHANIC IN MAFIA, and to have them in a normal game (even though it was [T]) is fucking bullshit. But like I said, no impact, so lucky.

I also think that the ghost being able to vote like normal players is pretty strong. I think that an invisible vote that gets locked and becomes visible 1 hour before the lynch is better balanced.

The secret message was a bit meh, it could/should just have been some sort of "testament" 24 hours into the next day tbh.


But the dead people being the doc is really cool. Great idea. An incredible mechanic that can be applied to future normal games. It can be modified so that lynched townies get a docsave the next night or something. Really cool idea. It can be any blue power revealed with the daypost. Like copcheck or something. Really cool stuff.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
December 14 2015 19:09 GMT
#2318
Really nice hosting.
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