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On November 21 2015 04:13 Rels wrote: Lol did koshi make you switch ? :p On phone right now so won't update the list until Monday; I think we have 3 open slots left Let's just say a bird whispered in my ear  | ||
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On November 21 2015 05:47 scott31337 wrote: Lynch the bear! Nooooo If you in I promise I will be your buddy regardless of alignment | ||
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I had to stop playing DotA because I was too addicted to it. It's like, I don't dare to touch it, and it has been this way for like 2 years :O | ||
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On November 25 2015 01:36 scott31337 wrote: ##signemedown Watch out guys! We've got a badass over here | ||
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On November 25 2015 01:48 Rels wrote: Lots of rebels around here Looks like we're only missing one confirmation! Won't tell who but its an obvious one 10/10 | ||
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On November 25 2015 08:30 Koshi wrote: Was too busy playing Diablo III to see the start of this game. I rolled town. I have total interest to play a calm and smooth game though. Diablo III? You've lost all my respect | ||
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On November 25 2015 08:34 Koshi wrote: I am also going to create a town circle. The rules to join this town circle will be formed tomorrow. I need to think about a flawless system. First couple of requirements: 1) Keep Koshi entertained. (aka post enough and don't be boring) 2) Call a lot of people mafia, and therefore vote a shitton (You are allowed to vote for Koshi but membership might be revoked, it depends on how I perceive my own play) I'll find more rules on the way. PS: it isn't really a towncircle, more a town pyramid and I am on top and you are all on the bottom. That being said, being in the town pyramid makes you a better person. Btw, you feel fairly town. | ||
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On November 25 2015 08:43 sicklucker wrote: ya probably. Hes afraid he will be outed and coming clean will gain him town cred. Theres no way ff smurfed to reveal himself the 80% of the time he rolled town. It makes no sense... Espiecally since I have never seen him get mafia in like 15 games with him... lynch ff for sanity And this post makes you fairly scum | ||
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On November 25 2015 08:46 Chromatically wrote: Hmm, I had the opposite reaction. Why would he be afraid of being outed as a smurf? Townie post here | ||
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On November 25 2015 09:04 Tictock wrote: Hmm? You might have a point here, especially revealing so early before he could even see the affects of smurfing. FF tends to play fairly lazily the first few days and picks it up later. Maybe he rolled mafia and was worried people would push him early on? Course all of this is assuming it's actually FF and not someone trying to mind game us early... that's pretty tinfoily though and would be a pretty silly play. Gunna put this down as slightly suspect but possibly NAI for now. I don't like this post | ||
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Koshi looks townie for his tone. Especially when he makes the post of the town pyramid and the following one. Chrom looks townie for thinking critically about the game. SL looks scummy for this hard push on FF on a matter that isn't really alignment indicative. Tictock looks scummy for commenting that SL may have a point but concluding that FF's thing isn't alignment indicative. If SL does have a point then it is alignment indicative. If it isn't alignment indicative, SL doesn't have a point. Therefore you just look you're posting to look contributive while actually being fluffy and pushing the matter nowhere | ||
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On November 25 2015 11:25 ANickelDrink wrote: You're in a good mood GB I can tell I actually am! Are you... Watching me from somewhere? On November 25 2015 11:26 Chromatically wrote: hahaha trying to keep me off your tail this game with smilies, I'm onto you  Hahaha not actually, I townread you the whole game we played together | ||
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On November 25 2015 11:32 Koshi wrote: The money grabbing assholes from Activision completely fucked Diablo III on release, making it a piece of garbage. But in it's current form it is a very enjoyable game. It became really good. Trivia: I and 3 friends took 2-3 days free of work to play Diablo III on release. I even bought a new PC, then we played for like 60+ hours in 5 days. We were all sick to our stomach on how completely utterly shit the game was. Biggest disappointment I ever had in a game I ever played. We played for 60 hours hoping it would be better but it was so unbelievable shit. Didn't touch the game for over a year. Recently picked up the expansion with a mate and it has been fun because other people kept saying it became good. And it did. Ran through the entire campaign in 4-5 non consecutive days (dnu in how many hours, maybe 20?), very enjoyable because you can actually change the difficulty of mobs in exchange for more gold and xp and items. And today we did the new dungeon thingie in which you get a random generated dungeon and then need to run it on the difficulty you chose, harder = more loot. Item progression is steady and enjoyable. Good game. I am just upset they fucked it so hard in the ass on release. Yeah, the last time I played we still had the auction house. But the plot is a disgrace to the franchise anyway | ||
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On November 25 2015 11:39 ANickelDrink wrote: I played Diablo II so many hours. I'm relentlessly biased toward that game. Including LoD I'd put it in my top 3 easily up there with brood war and Heroes of newerth. + Show Spoiler + HoN with a playerbase = best MOBA LOL No. Btw FF can you post with your original account just to make sure you are FF? | ||
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On November 25 2015 11:43 Chromatically wrote: GB, what do you think about OO and Sn0's reactions to the sicklucker-FF situation? I think I like OO's reaction the least out of anyone. I like your point about TicTock too, though. I really don't get a read from those reactions. I didn't dislike them, but they doesn't sound fairly townie either. | ||
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On November 25 2015 11:44 Koshi wrote: I agree porn is better with a good story added to it. Bad comparison. Right comparison: Previous games - porn with a good story that you can skip Diablo III - porn with shitty story with unskippable fat naked man appearing on the screen screaming "you'll never get to the end of it!!!" | ||
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What do you guys think of what I've brought on Tictock? | ||
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On November 25 2015 12:25 ANickelDrink wrote: Yes sir, sorry sir. No I haven't had anything to drink tonight officer. Am I free to go? I do not consent to any searches. You can't go. How could you not have any drinks tonight? This is insane! Anyway, I'm going to re read tictock's post to check what you're saying | ||
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On November 25 2015 09:04 Tictock wrote: Hmm? You might have a point here, especially revealing so early before he could even see the affects of smurfing. FF tends to play fairly lazily the first few days and picks it up later. Maybe he rolled mafia and was worried people would push him early on? Course all of this is assuming it's actually FF and not someone trying to mind game us early... that's pretty tinfoily though and would be a pretty silly play. Gunna put this down as slightly suspect but possibly NAI for now. Nah, FF. He clearly agrees with SL. It's not a "I understand you, but..." Let me expand my suspicions on this post. If I see somethig that is NAI, whenever someone says it is suspicious, I will tell them that it's NAI. Whenever I see something that I find suspicious and someone say its suspicious, I will simply agree with it. I don't understand how can someone agree on a suspicion but reach the conclusion that that is NAI. His thought process is disconnected with his conclusion. In other words, it just sounds that he tried to fake putting thoughts on it when he was really just... Posting. Also, if this is slightly suspicious, why classifying it as NAI now instead of pushing it further, especially on the early phase of the game when usually we have NOTHING to pursue? Do you understsnd what I'm trying to say? | ||
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On November 25 2015 12:37 Chromatically wrote: sicklucker I'm not sure about. I agree he could be mafia for his push over something which I agree wasn't alignment indicative, but I liked that he didn't back down about it when he came under pressure. Ticktock I agree with your point, plus he just kind of came in and posted those non-opinions on FF and then peaced out. Koshi I don't have a read on. Let me expand on what I mean about OO: sicklucker posts his stuff about FF's claim being weird and also makes a comment about rolehunting. OO jumps on the "rolehunting" part of it, which is the part that looks weird and is easy to jump on as mafia (I was interested in his read on FF from it). The third post is the one I particularly didn't like. The whole post says nothing at all (no conclusion or any point for the post), it seems like it's just a poor attempt to explain why he jumped on the rolehunting comment when it clearly didn't mean much. I agree with you + the part where he overreacts to your suspicions | ||
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On November 25 2015 18:53 marvellosity wrote: I had this problem last game i played OO where his posts all seemed really stilted and formulaic and emotionless, except he was town. So that was fun Well but this is not Chrom's argument on OO | ||
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On November 25 2015 23:40 Koshi wrote: You guys convinced me that TT is a better lynch. ##unvote ##vote: TickTock When did you get convinced? | ||
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On November 26 2015 01:14 Onegu wrote: I figured out you guys need to ask me stuff. I am not really good at seeing things on my own but if you are like, Onegu what do you think about _______? I will look it up and give you a answer.+ Onegu what do you think about what I've said on Tictock and what Chrom said about OO? Also, would you rather milk a cow or let a cow milk you? | ||
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On November 26 2015 01:46 marvellosity wrote: how many games have you played with me now? if I had something worthwhile to say about either, do you estimate the chances i'd just sit on it silently to be a) low b) very low c) non-existent d) eerily homosexual ? Letter D!!! I know, Marv. But if I say "someone is scummy because of X", you automatically have an opinion that is either "I agree this is scummy", "I disagree this is scummy" or "it is NAI". Being silent may imply the latter, but it doesn't hurt to explicitly say that in the thead I always feel compelled to ask you questions, anyway. This is how I play. I try to get people to talk | ||
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On November 26 2015 02:10 Chromatically wrote: I'm totally alright with having a wagon on TicTock. marv makes me a bit uncomfortable for now but I feel like that will become clearer with time. Meh, don't be, Marv should never be a worry | ||
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On November 26 2015 02:14 marvellosity wrote: And I always feel compelled to remind people that I offer my opinions when I have them I guess we are both satisfied, then! Isn't it marvelous? | ||
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On November 26 2015 02:16 Sn0_Man wrote: I'm curious as to why u feel taht way gb In late game he is pretty obvious when he is mafia (usually) and if he is town his existence is always a threat to mafia. Which means I don't have to worry | ||
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On November 26 2015 02:24 Sn0_Man wrote: if i vote sicklucker its me'n'him in a shitflinging fest nobody cares about with extremely limited material to work with that develops into a useless sideshow that if he's maf he can use to say "look i'm scumhunting" by targetting townie ol me. meanwhile we make a nice wagon on tictock and he gets pressured in a way that should help us read him. It's not like this is a serious lynch wagon. yet. u know basic mafia things It's pretty serious to me | ||
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On November 26 2015 02:36 Sn0_Man wrote: u do u i guess Like, she sent me heart emoticons and shit. I can't see it getting more serious than this. | ||
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On November 26 2015 04:41 Koshi wrote: Let me clarify: We can lynch marv Or We cannot lynch marv On d1 Both are possible. We just wait and see. Wow!! Are you implying that in a mafia game the players either gets voted and die or they survive??? :OOOO | ||
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On November 26 2015 08:12 Koshi wrote: Ticktock made a random post. 3 people found the exact same thing scummy. I'm like meh. But then again. TickTock is as good as a lynch target as anybody else currently. Maybe better. You don't think what I've said is right? | ||
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On November 26 2015 09:13 Koshi wrote: And that's comingfrom a GB who asked marv a question, marv dodged the question (-ish), and then GB sucked up to marv for it. I'm not willing to keep pushing Marv until he talks about what I want. Too much energy for too little. | ||
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Koshi, if what I've brought has something to it, how come he be as good as a lynch target as anybody else (your "maybe better" doesn't sound you realy think it's better)? Why are you voting him? Why were you convinced only when chrom went against him, ignoring what I've posted until then? If Chrom is the only one you like, why aren't you interacting with him? What do you think of OO? (I know, lots of questions) | ||
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Does your theory makes sense? Yes Does FF explanation makes sense? Yes Therefore you could be right or wrong equally. We can't really know why FF did what he did. In other words, blowing his smurf or not is NAI. So if that's your only argument on FF, you're trying to lynch a guy based on something that doesn't make him mafia. | ||
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On November 26 2015 10:10 marvellosity wrote: dunno, unlike koshi i didn't really get what he was saying about you also last time i was in a game with him and he was mafia i townread him d1 because i thought he was trying and useful, so. er, i dunno? not sure if this makes sense but i don't get the townie feels i did when i thought he was town and he was mafia, but i don't know if that really means anything D: This post bothers me. Simply because Marv answered the question right away but wasn't willing to answer me when I asked about a guy that is the main wagon. In other words, Marv has no opinion on the main wagon and isn't willing to talk about it but is okay to talk about anybody else and expand on it even to just say that he doesn't know | ||
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On November 26 2015 23:45 sicklucker wrote: w/e dead game i have no idea who outside of ticktock is lyncable so ill just vote myself to make fun of the stupid rules. I want the people voting him to do Game is going decently well, we have few pages but it's all mostly full of content. Why are you so grumpy SL jeez. | ||
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On November 26 2015 17:45 Tictock wrote: Yea, like 90% sure this is town SL. I'm also about 75% sure he's wrong about FF here though. Townpiled. Can you explain to me what in those posts makes SL town? | ||
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On November 27 2015 00:34 marvellosity wrote: also sicklucker's point about the Tictock wagon wasn't bad in any way, and the way you dismissed it smells horrible. the game is really slow. the tictock wagon has been rumbling for... however long? mafia just give up on a player based on one post and nothing? how often do you see votes just pile up on mafia day 1 while nothing else is happening? it doesn't make tictock "confirmed town" like sl says, but you know how sl talks. The point he raises has merit though and the way you dismissed it looks rubbish You know that sicklucker's argument on the early wagon isn't that strong because mafia could be just not trying to vote him and wait until town decides another lynch/bussing a team mate because he is AFK and there could be no way to save him. It's also possible that Tictock decided to be quiet to see if the lynch moves off of him and if it doesn't he just needs to come back to the thread and put some effort so people would be like "ok I'm not comfortable to lynch him anymore" and start another wagon (like what is happening right now). You may believe Tictock is town but not for that argument | ||
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On November 27 2015 01:17 marvellosity wrote: you guys do what you want i will have no part in lynching tictock vivax is mafia. I don't dislike your case and I may vote Vivax if I can overcome my urge to see if I was right on Tictock | ||
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On November 27 2015 01:33 marvellosity wrote: bear in mind if you lynch Tictock and he flips town, I will be *unbearable* like, even by my standards. and we both know that's saying something Being a bear, I completely understand | ||
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On November 27 2015 01:33 Tictock wrote: His in your face, I don't give a F*$%, attitude Why this has to come from a town sicklucker? In other words, mafia!sicklucker can't do that? Because I think it's too easy to come up with a theory and don't reevaluate it and refuse to talk about anything else as Mafia | ||
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On November 27 2015 01:37 marvellosity wrote: oh you so went there I see an opportunity, I grab it | ||
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On November 27 2015 01:43 Tictock wrote: Really you make a read on me based on one post 5 hours into the game, and now just want to see if your read was good? Like it doesn't even sound like you really think I'm mafia but would rather just flip me than try to read into anything happening more recently... What do you "not dislike" about the case on Vivax? Here is my problem: I don't trust your explanation for your early post. I really think that post was way too scummy. On the other hand, I like that you gave your thoughts on players. On the other other hand (I may have three), some of them looked to me like you were try harding just to look contributive and save yourself, like your obvious one thing. You talked about him like he was being the second wagon but he is only being voted by Chrom. It felt like unnecessary to me. So your contributions sound to me like it could be coming from both alignments. In other words, I see one townie trait on you (the fact that you are contributing)/ NAI posts (your contributions per se)/ and a scummy trait on you (that post) Plus: you being AFK and coming just now and xontributing just now fits mafis strategy that I've used before. I'm just trying to decide if this is wifom and if I'm tunneled on you for no reason. I liked the entire case on Vivax. Not being contrivutive and that contradiction marv pointed out. I'm waiting for Vivax to reply | ||
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On November 27 2015 02:12 marvellosity wrote: this is totally wifom because if he's town then... he's gonna come back to the game and contribute? he's been here all fucking day after all Yeah, I get what you say, but... you also understand what I'm talking about, right? It would be more townie if he came back earlier... Ok marv, you're right, I shouldn't be lynching someone who is at least contributing. | ||
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On November 27 2015 02:21 marvellosity wrote: Tictock: here for the last 10 hours. (it may not be 10. the gist is correct) Vivax: here briefly, made shit posts, afked. hmmmm hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm I've never said you were wrong on Vivax? | ||
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On November 27 2015 02:42 marvellosity wrote: he looks kinda like me... I've always thought you looked like an young Rob Halford | ||
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On November 27 2015 02:47 GlowingBear wrote: I've always thought you looked like an young Rob Halford + Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://2fast2die.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/Halford-82.jpg) | ||
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On November 27 2015 02:49 Vivax wrote: We can do this the other way, you lynch TT and if he's town you lynch me, except that I don't leave myself outs like marv does. Or, we lynch you and if you're town we lynch TT, are you okay with it? | ||
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On November 27 2015 02:54 Vivax wrote: No, then you lynch marv. Then I'm okay with it, if I didn't know you don't have the balls. I'm actually one of few people that have the balls to do so. Marv can confirm. | ||
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On November 27 2015 02:57 marvellosity wrote: can confirm GB will (and has) pursued me like a rabid dog. he likes to do that to HF too. Something about the english. I envy people that can enjoy London whenever they want. That's all | ||
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On November 27 2015 02:59 Vivax wrote: Yes, guide to not getting lynched as mafia being wagoned: Answer everything you can find, talk about every issue that seems important, and generally rustle as few jimmies as possible in the process. Except the jimmies of those who are voting him, cause they are rustled anyway, ergo he scumreads me, GB, sno_man. Everyone else basically stays null/town or he talks about em on request (like FF) This is so so true... | ||
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On November 27 2015 03:10 Koshi wrote: Ok now I got to play Diablo III for 20 minutes. I ll be useless today. Maybe also tomorrow. But after that, I will be totes good. I will still read a lot though. Also I am unlynchable. Have you ever been useful? KIDDIIIIIIIING | ||
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On November 27 2015 03:23 Chromatically wrote: GB, is TT's post on FF still the reason why you're on him? Yes. And I can relate to Vivax when he says Tictock came back over-contributive | ||
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On November 27 2015 03:42 Vivax wrote: Cause I just played with him when he was town in the game BH won and he feels different. Fake contributive, opportunistic. I scumread him and marv when marv asked him something and he answered it or the other way around, I don't remember exactly. But it's more a tonish/feelish read, not really anything I can justify with specific content, except for one thing: He has been maneuvering around TT while agreeing on him with me and GB, at least around the time we posted against TT. Precisely how I'd see him bussing TT. Do you see any intention of him wanting to lynch TT while saying he agreed with the arguments???? Marv was also really silent around the time the TT thing got started. Now what really matters for me is: Do you think TT had any reason to agree with SL on FF if you look back to it except to not piss him off? I don't. It's obvious he only agreed with him for the sake of agreeing (who doesn't like people who agree with you?), since afterwards FF didn't mean jack to him except when marv asked him about it. Ok I think you're town [b]##Unvote ##Vote: Tictock[/b{ | ||
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On November 27 2015 05:54 Koshi wrote: WHY TICKTOCK. CHROM IS SO MUCH BETTER............. HE IS DOING NOTHING Because I want to be right. btw, nice ninja vote boxerfred | ||
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On November 27 2015 05:54 Koshi wrote: WHY TICKTOCK. CHROM IS SO MUCH BETTER............. HE IS DOING NOTHING Koshi, he was the leading wagon the whole day1, he came back 10 hours from the deadline and made a lot of posts on people withoht a clear direction, he even threw suspicions on me and chrom but decided to vote AFK Vivax (easiest target possible after Onegu). Now that Vivax wagon is rolling, he's been silent about everyone but is here defending himself. Defending HIMSELF, not pushing his lynch. He is mafia | ||
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Marv, if Tictock is town I promise I'll lynch Vivax on day2. Please trust me. | ||
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On November 27 2015 06:09 marvellosity wrote: what absolving of responsibility? I HAVE BEEN SO CLEAR ON WHAT I THINK you are scum. you have to be. you misrepresent EVERYTHING Calm down, marv. Please don't flip out | ||
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On November 27 2015 06:08 Sn0_Man wrote: day 1 is so hard le sigh hows marv just trying so hard to absolve himself of all responsibility GB is so nice and sheepable he makes me just wanna lynch tictock Do it! Call me Commander Shephard! | ||
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On November 27 2015 06:32 Koshi wrote: Yeah chrom is not happening. Great. It's not. If you're certain he is mafia, you should vote Tictock | ||
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On November 27 2015 06:37 marvellosity wrote: i'm watching someone teach someone how to stir a cup of tea on tv could this get any more british Any cake on the table? | ||
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I had to google it. I've never eat scones in my life :/ But I tried cake and tea once on England. The cake was delicious but the tea was black tea. The forest sip I took made me sound like a murloc, it was too strong | ||
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On November 27 2015 06:43 ANickelDrink wrote: You're correct sn0 I never said that in as many words. I see what you mean. I think your first point about him knowing he's talking shit is a better point than him having seen both sides of the story in your second quote. I get that townies don't have info and seeing both sides of the story could be born of extra info but just that he is considering both sides isn't scum indicative imo. His dropping of OO is kinda odd but it's not like OO is being at all consequential this game. His vote in on a plynch AFKer and he hasn't really brought anything to the table. Either chrome forgot about him or I see your point about those two being partners. I have to go to work and I start exatcly at deadline. Koshi you and your 8 page filter have my sword. ##unvote ##vote chromatically For all the good it will do anyway At least hammer Tictock first since if chrom is mafia you can associate him with Tictock and Vivax is probably town. | ||
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On November 27 2015 06:45 GlowingBear wrote: I had to google it. I've never eat scones in my life :/ But I tried cake and tea once on England. The cake was delicious but the tea was black tea. The forest sip I took made me sound like a murloc, it was too strong The first* sip | ||
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You either sheep marv Or you sheep GB! Think of it! Who is the player you want to sheep??? Nevermind this is probably working against me. Lynch Tictock. I wanna be right! | ||
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On November 27 2015 06:50 Koshi wrote: I am going to go with marv. It is completely ridiculous but maybe Vivax knows some shit. For me Chrom is 100% mafia. ##unvote ##vote Vivax Like Marv is right and we lynch mafia. Or he is wrong and Vivax is town and we cross the marv bridge tomorrow. Vivax being town will make me hunt Chrom/TT/Marv like a motherfucker. LET ME GET THIS RIGHT You're saying Chrom is 100% Mafia But YOU'RE VOTING WITH HIM and not the guy he said WAS LOOKING BAD but REFUSED TO VOTE? To vote Vivax, that came with a scum team that is EXACTLY WHAT YOU'RE BRINGING NOW WTF KOSHI | ||
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On November 27 2015 06:54 marvellosity wrote: no idea how you're so convinced vivax is a bad lynch when you agreed with my case, GB? He has thoughts that crossed my mind that I crossed out for being tinfoil. Kinda a mindmeld that made me realise it could be paranoid Vivax but my problem isn't that My problem is that Koshi's reasoning is pure shit | ||
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On November 27 2015 06:57 marvellosity wrote: koshi will be koshi That's awful even by his standards. And this is coming from me. | ||
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On November 27 2015 07:01 marvellosity wrote: damnit maybe it is tt/chrome/marv after all Tomorrow we lynch Tictock Then we lynch Koshi Then we lynch SL That's all | ||
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On November 27 2015 07:03 Koshi wrote: Yeah this was bullshit. Should have went something else. Uh huh | ||
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On November 27 2015 08:04 ANickelDrink wrote: Had to go to work, thought maybe shenanigans would happen while I was gone Sigh... And to think this is totally within the town realm of possibilities... | ||
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On November 27 2015 17:32 sicklucker wrote: vivax being town does not make tt mafia. and if tt is mafia then im probably not withihm. Do you remember the reason you guys scumread him? he was sucking up to me hard. I think he would do this as mafia because we have butted heads in previous games and he has never agreed with anything I have said This is not the reason anyone scumread him. Read the game and stop playing like old SL or I'll find infinite effort to have you lynched | ||
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Could be intentionally but it indicates he is probably town here Scott could be Mafia but his IRL excuses are usually true and he AFKs like this Snow can only be mafia if TT isn't That's all | ||
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On November 27 2015 19:26 marvellosity wrote: i really don't think Koshi is mafia though, GB. If TT flips red, I will have a bad time believing this | ||
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On November 27 2015 21:34 marvellosity wrote: hopefully i'll be around to stop you then although i get what you're saying, i don't really believe it Stop me from lynching who? Koshi or TT? Because I think that nobody {Koshi} that votes with his scumread {Chrom} and kills a guy that had the exact scumteam as him {Vivax} and let's the Mafia counterwagon to survive {TT} (even tho this very second wagon {TT} has been refused to be voted by the main scumread{Chrom}) should be spared. Poorly phrased but my bad english isn't on the level where explain this properly, sorry. | ||
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No it wasn't. Stop being obnoxious. | ||
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I don't know, I think you might be Mafia but you could be town, so I was asking you to play properly instead of being this bad. | ||
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On November 27 2015 21:47 Koshi wrote: In my defense: I was play Diablo III, Dota 2 and nobody cared about my Chrom push. I've argued several times that you should lynch TT because Chrom was lynching Vivax and it was before you parked your vote on him | ||
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On November 27 2015 21:46 marvellosity wrote: Koshi. and no I get your argument. still don't think koshi is mafia though. Do you have a specific reason or just an overall tone? I can't push this unless TT flips red, anyways. | ||
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On November 27 2015 21:41 sicklucker wrote: gb with the slip if hes mafia fyi This makes me feel you're Mafia so so hard. | ||
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On November 27 2015 21:49 marvellosity wrote: like, when Koshi came back to the thread at some point yesterday. If koshi is mafia with Tictock. koshi knows tictock is leading the votes and has a good chance of being lynched. sees a couple of votes on Vivax. expresses some sadness that Vivax has votes. doesn't seem very likely. also Koshi got quite obnoxious about people voting Vivax on the back of what I said. So even though he ended up voting for Vivax, i think it's a really weird way to go about things in the Koshi/TT mafia Vivax town scenario If I got what you said, it's basically too scum to be scum? Because, marv, it also doesn't make sense as town to be sad that Vivax is getting votes but to vote him anyway for all the reasons I've said + he even said before that TT was a slightly better lynch than others It is pretty suicidal as Mafia, yes But it doesn't follow a clear thought process as Town, either. Is your argument that it is a very suicidal play as Mafia? | ||
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On November 27 2015 21:58 Koshi wrote: Koshi will be Koshi bois. But seriously... marv can't be mafia or I will be sad. No. I remember two games where Onegu hammered a partner in a similar way you did and I hard defended a partner before he got lynched and got away with the too scummy to be scum. It wouldn't be the first time someone did that Anyway, no use discussing this It's kinda hard to believe that you forgot Chrom was on Tictock when I constantly reminded you of this. | ||
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On November 27 2015 22:01 marvellosity wrote: what koshi just wrote in his post is right though "it doesn't make sense for either mafia or town so town is more likely" that's very often true as a general heuristic. townies do do silly things all the time. you should know this, you do silly things :p whereas mafia know exactly what's up. mafia koshi knows mafia TT is on the block and mafia koshi knows vivax is town. it's much less explainable how bizarre his actions when he is mafia. because he knows everything already. Alright, alright. I'll roll with this Although I pretty much understand the bolded, I really think these guys shouldn't be spared or you give Mafia a chance to be scummy without being compromised. But okay for now + Show Spoiler + By the way I'm pretty sure I've stopped doing silly things lately | ||
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On November 27 2015 22:05 marvellosity wrote: but those examples don't compare well to here because we're comparing koshi's whole body of play throughout the 2nd 24 hours but whatever, i don't think i will convince you of this so for now i will stop trying :> Nah, it's okay, I'm not fully convinced but I can understabd where you're coming from and I'll settle this for now, as there are way better targets anyway | ||
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On November 27 2015 22:08 marvellosity wrote: no i agree with you sometimes scummy things are just, well, scummy i just think in this particular instance, the way he goes about it. like if you read through his filter from when he made his first post yesterday (Detective Vivax is getting votes  ) and onwards - i just find it hard to believe the scenario you're proposing. in this instance.Fair enough | ||
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On November 27 2015 22:35 sicklucker wrote: Like I have been getting these weird senses that gb is mafia and koshi is town all game. I cant really explain the koshi one because hes an idiot but gb has been so negative and quick to scumread me for small things. I have played so much against gbs mafia and he always does this Yeah but no, I have fair reasons to scumread you | ||
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On November 27 2015 22:40 Koshi wrote: I agree gb might be mafia. ROFL Tell me you aren't serious here. | ||
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On November 27 2015 23:15 Koshi wrote: Because you are way to final/certain in your posting already. If I had to give a reason. Too much drama? I can't nail it. I am far from convinced TT is mafia. Could be though. I should really look who voted Vivax and at what times. Chrom/TT scumteam might be possible, Chrom did lose track of his own game (OO) and went for the vote on Vivax while he had TT and marv as suspicious. So dnu. It is possible. It's not something I am going to be hunting any time soon. If TT flips mafia I am coolio, but if he will be able to proof himself coming days there is nothing much left of your play tbh. I've been giving thoughts on mostly of things. The problem is that we don't have much to work with. If you add my filter to marv's, we have almost half of the thread's pages. So I stick to what sounds certain to me. As the game goes by I grow more and more certain Tictock is mafia because now it's clear his contribution was solely to drive the lynch away from him. You don't see him actively talking about people now. The moment the main wagon wasn't him anymore, BAM, he was just around defending himself and not talking about anything else. | ||
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On November 27 2015 23:19 sicklucker wrote: and im not even talknig about now im talking about after my first posts Those were weak early reads that could be proven right or wrong later in the game, and I would reevaluate you if you played differently. As you can see, I didn't push you as hard as I pushed Tictock because my scumread of you wasn't even nearly as strong as the scumread I had on Tictock. Then you keep calling FF scum, scum, scum and suddenly he isn't scum anymore, Sn0 is, so you park his vote no Sn0 and peace out. You come back the next day with some random rant and calling me mafia. I have yet to know your opinion on Tictock. But my main problem with you, SL, is that you are way too focused on yourself, which tend to happen when you're mafia. You keep saying "listen to me", "I don't have the mafia motivation", "you're calling me mafia so you're mafia", when usually, when you're town, you are way more interactive and really trying to convince people your target is mafia. Here you just say random stuff and say "oh since you guys aren't agreeing with me I'll fuck off", which is... too easy to do as mafia. You're following your own agenda rather than actually thinking about the game, and I find that scummy. + every time you're town you are way more inclined to interact with marv, making him read your scumreads or at least bouncing some ideas, and I also don't see you doing it here. | ||
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On November 27 2015 23:53 marvellosity wrote: like given i'm at least somewhat town on GB and Koshi, and they are 2 of the only active players i think the last thing town needs is the infighting or we're gonna lose horribly If Koshi is town, I don't think he thought well before posting that he thinks I'm mafia. Anyway, I'm letting it pass because I'd rather lynch TT and sicklucker. | ||
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On November 27 2015 23:55 marvellosity wrote: + every time you're town you are way more inclined to interact with marv, making him read your scumreads or at least bouncing some ideas, and I also don't see you doing it here. that's not really true. i have long and varied memories of being ignored by sl :p It's not the experience I had in the games I have being with you and SL... But if you say so, I guess I can't disagree | ||
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marvellosity Sn0_Man Chromatically ANickelDrink Koshi ObviousOne boxerfred scott31337 Onegu sicklucker TicTock This is how bad we are at the moment, because I had a hard time organising the nulls. And when I've been suspicious of Koshi but think that he has sufficient townie traits to put him closer to the town side, you know the game is looking pretty bad. | ||
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On November 28 2015 00:08 Koshi wrote: Chrom being green is a total joke though. Do you even know how he plays? I actually don't. I've played with him once and although his play style is different here, I thought he came pretty well on early day1, enough for me to give him a townread. I'm giving his inactivity a leeway because of Thanksgiving On November 28 2015 00:10 marvellosity wrote: why do you townread me so hard GB? not that i'm complaining but i did just push town off your "mafia" lynch, essentially also not sure i really agree with any of your other townreads... game is gross Marv, out of activity and the way you are approaching the game. I don't know, you feel townie to me. You're the only person actually playing this for real atm. If you're not town then fuck the townies in this game for inactivity. | ||
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On November 26 2015 22:14 marvellosity wrote: i'd say this is a town sl post because he suddenly lurches to the opposite conclusion of where his posts had been going up to that point Is this the reason? | ||
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On November 27 2015 02:02 marvellosity wrote: no you wouldn't because you've been misunderstanding or misrepresenting context all game basically sicklucker was questioning Tictock over the course of many posts about his attitude towards FF. Saying that he thought he was scummy (for smurf stuff) and that the read change didn't make sense or was unexplained the clear subtext being sl is suspicious of Tictock at that moment then in the blink of an eye he decides Tictock is town after all because of the wagons and stuff whether his reasoning or not is correct, it was a very natural and sl-type way of going about a read. You don't think SL could do this as mafia? | ||
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On November 28 2015 00:50 marvellosity wrote: i think it's a natural and townie way of thinking anyone can do anything. sure he can do it as mafia, but i do find the town suggestion much more plausible I strongly disagree this time, especially if I consider that TT is Mafia. I've done it before: a scum partner was up for the lynch for a long time and I was trying to push someone else. When I realised that wasn't working, I've pulled this card out. I don't remember if it worked, tho. I don't even remember the game. But I remember it happened. If Tictock is Mafia then it makes perfect sense that SL tried to distance himself from TT by having weak suspicions on him. When the wagon got real, keep on pushing FF or even Sn0 was a good choice. When none of this works, all he had to do was pulling that card. This actually reinforces my two scum reads who originally had no association. feels good | ||
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On November 28 2015 00:58 Koshi wrote: It's funny that there is a 100% chance marv dies. I can't get shit done. GB has the worst town list since 2011. Nobody else is town. I bet I'm dead tonight unless scum team wants to WIFOM or the hidden mechanic messes the night kill up. | ||
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On November 28 2015 01:14 marvellosity wrote: you always strongly disagree with me still, i'm probably right and you're probably wrong. I strongly disagree that I strongly disagree I'm home. Brb | ||
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+ Show Spoiler + On November 26 2015 21:45 sicklucker wrote: you acualy didnt say that tho. all you said was "if hes not really ff then its not valid" you 100% said my shit was valid nice backtrack to popular thread sentiment... hum On November 26 2015 21:49 sicklucker wrote: i have 0 history with this man its super weird and only a mafia would think like that when I think about it. only mafia wants to avoid fights and confrontations no real good town thinks like that Town read at 10:08pm + Show Spoiler + On November 26 2015 22:08 sicklucker wrote: well im sure ticktock is confirmed town considering how many votes he has already in the most slow and boreing game of all time. people seem to just want to put there vote somewhere and I doubt all of them are town Meh... I don't know, I can't take a townread out of that although I understand what you say... Argh... It still feels to me that he only went to the voting thread, saw tictock was really the main wagon and came back with that theory. 20 minutes is enough for a mafia to have that thought process. He was scumreading FF and Sn0 before that. Anyway, again, that will only work if Tictock is in fact mafia. I'll save this discussion for when his flip happens. | ||
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On November 28 2015 01:53 Koshi wrote: And this is why I think you are mafia. I'll tell you. You are very wrong about everything. Consider starting over entirely. Like how I was wrong on Vivax OWAIT On November 28 2015 01:54 Koshi wrote: That phrase is so annoying because you are so close minded already and we are 48 hours in the game. I am dead or mafia wants to wifom...... hilarious. Koshi, please. I'm not closed minded. You saw me holding back a tunnel on you while I was discussing with marv. I don't understand why you think I've been closed minded... | ||
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On November 28 2015 02:01 Koshi wrote: Anyway. GB/Marv/Koshi kinda have posted enough. Game is getting big for 0 reasons. Like... If the mafia are still hiding they literally won't have anything to do if we keep rehearsing same shit and don't stay open for other possibilities. Which there are millions. Case against TT: 1) Made a post that overexplained things? Vivax + GB jumped on it. 2) Tried to put effort into this game so he didn't get lynched. Then disappeared. What kind of retarded case is that? It is possible that he is mafia. The first thing is something that can happen, if I compare that post from TT with WHAT I FUCKING SAID ABOUT CHROM his post, then Chrom is way more mafia. And the second looks worse. HOWEVER, there are a lot of fuckers who didn't even did anything yet. And maybe TT tried to put effort in because he is town and 4 people were voting him? Then he AFK'ed like the 6 other names we could sum up. What the fuck did Chrom do? 1) Early game gave opinions on everything but was everybodies advocate. 2) Said OO could be mafia out of somewhat nowhere. 3) Said OO could be mafia for that big post he made. 4) Said marv and TT are suspicious and TT a fine lynch. 5) Voted with marv and TT on Vivax for a pretty lame reason. 6) Fucked off. And that guy got a green read?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? zomg omg wtf bbq Dude I'm really holding me back to not lynch you. First: the case on Tictock isn't only that. The case is: Tictock made a post of how SL got a point, and it was going in the way that he was agreeing with the suspicions, but he reached the conclusion it wasn't alignment indicative. You can only have two logic here - SL has a point and FF is suspicious OR SL doesn't have a point and the smurf thing is NAI. Saying SL has a point and the smurf thing is NAI is simply Tictock posting just to post, just to look contributive, and not thinking critically about what he is saying. THAT'S the point. He was the wagon for a long long time and all he did was throw suspicions and townreads everywhere. Again, sounding contributive without actually being contributive. Want a especial post where he did this? On November 26 2015 17:57 Tictock wrote: Ok all caught up, I also realize I forgot to keep up with my silly little thing for this game, but oh well. Anyways I have some serious doubts about GB, Sn0, Chrom, and Vivax atm and think there is probably 2 mafia in that group. I'm not really sure regarding my Chrom and GB reads atm, will have to relook through things but I get the sense that they are trying to lineup and push some early game reads without really looking at the game as a whole. I'm not that familiar with GB but the fact that he's really only been pushing OO and myself and keeps wanting people to talk about us seems strange. I recall town!GB being all over the place, changing his mind, and always reevaluating. Not the feel I get from him this game. I'm not sure how to put into words my read on Chrom just yet, maybe I should leave him more null atm because it's more just a scumfeel I have on him than anything really solid. I'm a bit torn on who is the better lynch between Vivax and Sn0, but I'm thinking Vivax atm. I'll make individual posts about them in a min (both have super short filters so it wont take long), but gunna go ahead and ##Vote: Vivax for now "I think GB is suspicious, I think Chrom is suspicious, I'm voting Vivax". Again, he isn't trying to defend himself and go against who he thinks is mafia, he is just trying to sound contributive enough to survive. This gets way more confirmed once we realise that he never gets this committed to the game after he isn't the wagon anymore. He just hangs around and defends himself. <hr> It is funny that you try to reduce your list on Tictock by putting two different traits in the same item but enlarges Chrom list by putting the same items twice: Case against TT: 1) Made a post that overexplained things? Vivax + GB jumped on it. 2) Tried to put effort into this game so he didn't get lynched. Then disappeared. Would be Case against TT: 1) Made a post that overexplained things 2) Tried to put effort into this game so he didn't get lynched 3) Then disappeared 4) Comes back and hangs out just to defend himself And this 1) Early game gave opinions on everything but was everybodies advocate. 2) Said OO could be mafia for that big post he made. 3) Said marv and TT are suspicious and TT a fine lynch and voted with marv and TT on Vivax for a pretty lame reason. 4) Fucked off. <hr> You, for insance, Koshi 1) Said Vivax lynch was bad but voted Vivax 2) Said once that TT was a slightly better lynch than Vivax but refused to vote him 3) Voted Vivax EVEN when Vivax had THE EXACT MAFIA TEAM as you 4) Voted Vivax even when I've repeatedly said that, for your thought process (Chrom being mafia), Tictock was a beter lynch. 5) Justified your vote on Vivax so you could get a better grasp on marv's alignment (implying a green flip would implicate marv) - Vivax flips green and you do nothing about it - instead, you call marv town out of fucking nowhere 6) Now you're hard defending Tictock even after you admitted Vivax was a bad lynch and that you would listen to my opinion, and even after you keep scumreading Chrom. 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On November 28 2015 03:13 Chromatically wrote: See GB I understand your frustration on Koshi's weird reads (believe me lol), but his lynch play is really bold if he's mafia. He was pushing against the Vivax lynch really hard (which doesn't make a lot of sense if mafia with TT) and as mafia I think he would be way more self-conscious over doing a 180 and voting with his scumread. I think he might be pulling the too scum to be scum. Really. It's totally in the realm of possibilities. I was dropping it until he came back and start DEFENDING Tictock and calling ME mafia. OMFG like I didn't need more fuel. BTW, Koshi, why's marv town? | ||
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On November 28 2015 03:25 Chromatically wrote: I don't get it on TT. The one post was bad, and I guess he did disappear for a little (not a unique trait to him), but I liked his contributions and they didn't seem fake to me. Why not OO? He's like the definition of "sounding contributive without actually being contributive". Because I want my lynch and TT isn't any better than OO. IMHO. | ||
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On November 28 2015 03:49 Koshi wrote: No. ty. If you're town and we lose I'll blame you. | ||
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On November 28 2015 05:11 sicklucker wrote: then how is marv number one? ;p if you think tt is mafia you know he just saved him right? That's exactly why marv is number one. I'm disregarding any unflipped association. | ||
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On November 28 2015 04:51 Tictock wrote: GB man, I don't even know what to say to you. Your so tunneled on me that your setting up associations for if I flip mafia. Can you explain your townread on Sn0? Sn0 voted you with me. He could've just piled on Vivax. Instead he followed his play. It's a weak townread tho, I must admit. Maybe he is just the highest null and not a town read | ||
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On November 28 2015 05:15 sicklucker wrote: gb theres so many reasons me and tt are not partners if either of us are even mafia Name them. | ||
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On November 28 2015 05:31 sicklucker wrote: if your smurfing you get lynched more then if your ff that is a fact This is not a fact, I was scum when I smurfed as FreezingFoot and was never lynched. Instead I was actually universally townread | ||
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On November 28 2015 05:53 ANickelDrink wrote: You actually think this makes sense don't you? It has no logic behind it, it's hilarious | ||
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On November 28 2015 04:06 Chromatically wrote: Just to expand on OO: Read this rant, and then look through OO's filter, especially after he makes this post, and see how inconsistent it is. This really feels like OO faking emotion to make it seem like he cares about the game. I don't think anyone so obviously uninvested in this game supposedly cares so much about it. I could just be reading into this too much, but I thought it was really weird how he comes back to the thread with a nonchalant attitude, asking people who he should sheep. Then, in the next post is a giant list with a bunch of back-and-forth reads, ending with a vote on Onegu (?). Those are two different mindsets ("hey I'll sheep someone" vs "look at me I'm trying"), which I think makes more sense from mafia who wanted to act like they were contributing but forgot that it was inconsistent with their attitude. (you can ignore this if you think it's stretching, it was just something I felt) I think this is the most important point: He votes Onegu out of nowhere and then peaces out for a while. Then, when he comes back and it's clear that Onegu isn't happening (the votes were 4 Vivax - 2 TicTock, no one talking about Onegu), he doesn't consolidate or take a stance on the lynch at all like he claimed he would in the above post. Actually, he never actually takes a stance on the lynch of Vivax vs TicTock, even when it's really clear that those are the wagons. This shows him being really disconnected from the thread, just popping in to make a "contribution" when needed. Other stuff: He's very interested in posting whenever people express suspicion of him (happens both with me and with FF). I don't think the points I had against him earlier were weak either (jumped on the rolehunting comment and had a bad explanation for it, overreacted to suspicion). Chrome, I agree with most of things you say about OO. If I lynch him would you give me my lynch? | ||
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On November 28 2015 06:22 ANickelDrink wrote: See, I was super excited that I had such a strong town toneread on your day one that a went and found that bear mask from a while ago. It's still here I'm just not sure I want to put it on anymore, you know? OH PLEASE DO IT FF IT HAS BEEN AGES SINCE YOU DID IT | ||
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On November 28 2015 06:30 ANickelDrink wrote: I only wear the face of locked-in townreads nowadays. I'll let you know. I've got a couple suspicions. Let me check you out a little more after I finish looking at eod but I'm so townie in this game... | ||
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On November 28 2015 07:01 Rels wrote: You all hear a ghostly voice that sounds like Vivax: lynch the guy who sounds like a clock A NICKEL DRINK???? | ||
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On November 28 2015 07:09 Sn0_Man wrote: wtf votecount thread includes "vengeful ghosts" and "benevolent spirits" in the voting list sounds like you keep ur vote post death Sounds like you know too much | ||
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Sheeping Chrom because I'm tired of speaking the obvious | ||
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On November 28 2015 11:31 scott31337 wrote: Allright guys I found a place and paid my deposit but it won't be ready until Wednesday? so it'll be sleeping with friends/homeless until then - One goal accomplished. I have a lot to catch up and have some time at the moment. I'm glad you found a place Also, you're probably town | ||
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On November 28 2015 13:15 ANickelDrink wrote: Based on rl excuses? I'm a sucker but it doesn't actually change his alignment Yeah I see no reason for him to come back and say something like that and fuck off again when nobody was talking about him | ||
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On November 29 2015 01:54 GlowingBear wrote: Yeah I see no reason for him to come back and say something like that and fuck off again when nobody was talking about him But now I think this is shit and that if he had such serious problem he would ask for a replacement and I see no replacement post on the replacement thread | ||
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On November 29 2015 02:25 Koshi wrote: scott might be pullinga BH. At first I thought he wasn't because he usually have these RL stuff but this one I must admit is odd | ||
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On November 29 2015 09:12 ANickelDrink wrote: Your stuff on GB is really on point actually. His EoD and his bartering lynches really gave me a bad feeling. From what you're saying a glowingbear flip would be really telling. It would basicaly make me think you and sn0 are both town based on how he is so adamant about you both being opposite alignments. He dismissal of chrome while saying it has merit is weird too. Makes me want to look at OO again but I'm not sure he's done a whole lot since I last looked. TT, why would you not use your pretend gun on GB since you have so much dirt on him? What EXACTLY is good? Drunk senses Is calling scott máfia | ||
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SCUM TEAM IS OO SNO AND SCOTT BYE BYE DRUNK AENSES NOT SO SURE ON OO THO | ||
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ONEGU IS TOWN ACCORDINGLY TO DRUNK SENSES I LUV U | ||
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On November 30 2015 01:04 sicklucker wrote: Theres literally little reasons why Sn0_Man is scum but since everyone scum reads him including his probable partners its probably true. His scum team mates are probably more likely to jump and copy other towns rather then logic Or You know He is just town and Mafia agrees to lynch him | ||
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On November 30 2015 01:12 Tictock wrote: Agreed. Starting to really wish we had a vig or something to resolve all these dead slots. Anyways Not much more to add until more people post/vote. GB did you not have any reaction to my mega posts? I notice you drunkenly dropped your scum read on me. Yeah i usually don't scum read anyone when they put effort That was my drunken self tbh. But I surely think you could be town right now | ||
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On November 30 2015 01:18 Tictock wrote: ... Can't dig up posts atm, but your tune was very different last EoD. So then, who do you think is the best lynch today? Why does my tone matter? I'm thinking about what marv said about SL so I'm stepping back, and I think you look fair enough today to guarantee a lynch. So I'm just sticking with what I find a good read made by someone I town read. So yeah, OO | ||
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On November 30 2015 03:47 Tictock wrote: What? And I said tune, not tone. As in you were pushing me last phase kus I was "over-contributing" saying it was mafia indicative. Yet you've never really responded to any of the content of my posts. Which posts? I thought I've answered everything. And I wrote that wrongly. I think you look fair enough today so I don't want to lynch you, at least today. Because you've actually have put effort and effort is a very strong sign that you are town. | ||
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On November 30 2015 05:37 Tictock wrote: I'm back home, and should be around the rest of EoD. Nothing from Sn0 is convincing me he is town, but something about how afk and dead this game has been today kinda makes me think mafia doesn't care if he gets lynched. So, lets lynch GB! ##Vote: GlowingBear See? This is why it's so hard to see you as town. You've just said there is nothing convincing you snow is town but for a wifom argument you've decided to vote me. Lol | ||
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On November 30 2015 06:08 Tictock wrote: Yea I have really bad issues with this thinking. You've got to at least consider the possibility of Scum being active, and town getting shit on with so many non-contributors. Again, summarise your reasons to why am I Mafia and tell us who are my partners if I am | ||
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On November 30 2015 06:09 Koshi wrote: Hmm. Not yet sure if town!GB is incapable of that. In a game like this. Would mafia really be so active and insane that they "annoy" people with inconsistency? They would be more like snow, OO, fefe etc I think? dnu I'm far from being inconsistent tho | ||
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On November 30 2015 06:11 Tictock wrote: I'm not trying to build a scumteam here, and I've made plenty of posts explaining why I think you are scum. I know, that's why I'm asking you to summarise | ||
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If you don't have time to play the game and you don't wish to vote on people, why do you enter the voting thread right at the beginning of the day? | ||
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On November 30 2015 06:20 GlowingBear wrote: EBWOP: If you don't have time to play the game and you don't wish to vote on people, why do you enter the voting thread right at the beginning of the day? Please help me think this through | ||
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Well Sn0 is clearly lurking, generally because he doesn't have the time to play I suppose. But when day2 started he just came to the thread and said OMG WTF SPIRITS IN VOTE COUNTS. I went to see if he casted a vote, but he didn't (unless the vote count is wrong) So why the hell did he enter the coting thread in the first place? Then I remembered Mafia knows what the hidden mechanic is, and that made me think it was a slip? | ||
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On November 30 2015 06:50 Sn0_Man wrote: still don't see how we could ever lynch me over onegu/boxer/scott but w/e You have 5 minutes to explain my concern on you and I may switch | ||
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On November 30 2015 06:55 Sn0_Man wrote: ur really questioning because I was around at end of night? sure dude No I was asking what were you doing on the vote count | ||
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On November 30 2015 07:01 Rels wrote: You hear a ghostly voice that sounds like marvellosity: ... Thank you marv, gonna do that. | ||
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On November 30 2015 07:10 ANickelDrink wrote: what time period do you expect shenanigans to go through in? I like to start them around 15 mins or so before deadline if it's an active deadline I don't have such thing as this?? O.o | ||
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On November 30 2015 07:16 sicklucker wrote: looks like my town circle is koshi/me/tt/chrom the rest of you gotta battle Uh huh | ||
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On November 30 2015 10:25 ANickelDrink wrote: Wow readability at an all time low GB did you make any indication of wanting to shenanigan onto scott in thread before EoD? No I didn't, and sorry, I didn't understand that was what you were asking It just crossed my mind, so I made the math | ||
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On November 30 2015 10:51 sicklucker wrote: this is a super weird post 1 min before the reveal like he already knew it... there was nothing that made snow any alignment really.. Yeah, I knew his alignment. You've caught me slipping again, SL! ZOMG Really, it was very easy to know he was town when he kept with the EoN argument thing seconds before the deadline. | ||
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On November 30 2015 11:27 GlowingBear wrote: No I didn't, and sorry, I didn't understand that was what you were asking It just crossed my mind, so I made the math Like, not really a shenanigans, I was thinking about just lyching scott if we had another mislynch. Because he is a coinflip at this point. | ||
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On November 30 2015 12:14 Koshi wrote: Just go for OO next. Scum made it so that vote switch couldn't happen. I was the one that hammered Sn0. And I'm town. If you think they tried their best to have Sn0 lynched instead of OO, then you must agree that all 3 Mafia were on Sn0's wagon. Also, you'll definitely have to admit that TT is town because he unvoted Sn0 to try a wagon on me. | ||
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On December 01 2015 02:32 Koshi wrote: If I had to guess. Maybe GB, TT and then OO? Not that I ever would lynch them. We lost town. RIP. We tried. (I think) Are you serious? Koshi I have no idea what you're doing in this game | ||
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On December 01 2015 07:03 ObviousOne wrote: sick mafia strategy pretend the mafia team isn't playing so any lurker is a candidate for a swift no-fuss low-activity victory. gr8 b8 m8 Yeah right | ||
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##Vote:Scott Btw something amazing happened to me but it will make me busy for a long time so I'll be less active from now on | ||
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On December 01 2015 13:20 Koshi wrote: Yeah, GB tried to influence marv the entire night. First tried to call me mafia --> marv smacked him away (and called me town btw, it is good to remember this) Then tried to call both SL/TT mafia --> (marv smacked him away, didn't believe both would ever be mafia, and sl most likely town) Must be annoying for a scum GB :D I don't understand this | ||
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On December 01 2015 13:25 Koshi wrote: But I guess you would like to focus on the fun things in life and not this game in which your shot just got denied Oh you're actually calling me Mafia? | ||
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On December 01 2015 16:25 sicklucker wrote: >75% chance oo is town. hell we may as well add him to the koshi club + Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/zelda/images/9/92/Fi_%28Hyrule_Warriors%29.png/revision/latest?cb=20140711023732) | ||
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On December 01 2015 19:06 Tictock wrote: I think that's definitely a possibility. ##Unvoteing Koshi, was mostly a vote for pressure so he'd at least make some sense when proposing teams and shit. Like the notion that GB is scum pushing both his teammates the whole game is total garbage imo. @ GB, why are you pushing Scott now? FF had a pretty good point about your statement that "you thought about Shenanies onto Scott" but you basically ignored him D1 and D2, only mentioned your desire to lynch him after the Sn0 flip. Then again, idk if i trust FF anymore. As town he picks up as the game gets on, here he is slowing down. Even after his post that "Mafia is trying to incriminate me with that shot" there is nothing, no followup, no passion. Ehh it doesn't make much sense for FF to push GB after EoD like he did if they are mafia together though... Because we can afford a mislynch | ||
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On December 01 2015 19:26 Koshi wrote: yeah ok TT is town. It's fine. Why? | ||
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On December 02 2015 00:29 Tictock wrote: Noting that GB has managed 2 pages of filter since D2 started. Last real suggestion from him was a team of OO, Sn0 and Scott, and maybe BF. Now suggests Scot kus we can "afford the mislynch" Clearly a player who cares. Clearly you're a player "tunneled" in me but does not hesitate to vote FF instead | ||
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On December 02 2015 01:30 Tictock wrote: So is it a bad vote or what? Am I faking this tunnel on you or not? Like what the hell man, your not doing jack shit. I've reevaluated most of my reads after marv died and I've sticked to it. I don't have to do much more if I'm not sure on anyone. Chrom is my biggest townreas so I sheeped him. Then I realised a lot of things about Sn0 (the mechanics thing, the lack of pushes, marv dying night 1 while suspecting him, and the drunk read) and decided to vote him. Turns out I should've stick to objective reads but I relied on WIFOM. Meh. Drunk bear gets at least 1 Mafia on his reads so I'm voting scott since he is just a paper weight that has a good shot on being Mafia (I kinda doubt he wouldn't ask for a replacement as town if he got such serious problem and I if his problem is that big I don't vieve he would ninja vote without even trying to talk about ongoing things even if he didn't read the thread) | ||
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On December 02 2015 01:40 sicklucker wrote: sure marv lets vote ff you did save me afterall this is your vote You can't rest assured the benevolent spirit is marv | ||
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On December 02 2015 01:30 Tictock wrote: So is it a bad vote or what? Am I faking this tunnel on you or not? Like what the hell man, your not doing jack shit. And yes, it's a horrible vote, by your POV everything should point out to me being Mafia. | ||
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On December 02 2015 02:16 Tictock wrote: I don't understand. Voting FF is bad, because I should be pushing you? Yes | ||
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On December 02 2015 07:21 Chromatically wrote: top scumread comes back to the thread tells me to kill myself votes me for no reason and peaces out people say he's probably town and put me in their mafia teams top play guys Chrom, I've already said I agree with what you've said about OO and I'd sheep you. I don't remember a sane person saying that you are Mafia. You're overreacting here. A message to the players: we don't know if it's still marv or anyone else as the benevolent spirit. Stop relying on that to lynch a guy. | ||
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On December 02 2015 08:50 ObviousOne wrote: honestly feels like i'm playing with people who think higher of their play than they are capable of at least i'm honest and aware that i'm shit Meh, not true for most players in this game. It seems it has been a long time since you last played here. | ||
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On December 02 2015 09:49 ObviousOne wrote: Now you're telling me how I'm misreporting how I feel This is fucking legend Lolololol Stop being obnoxious, I've only mentioned that most people in this game have their ego in very okay standards comparing to other latest games that have been played in here. | ||
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On December 02 2015 17:58 Koshi wrote: The endgame should be GB/OO/(TT, Chrom, Koshi) With TT, Chrom, Koshi being the not lynch. However, this can still change because we are 1 week away from that. But these is no hair on my head that wants to leave fefe, Onegu and scott alive over any of the above 5 names. Koshi why am I Mafia? | ||
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On December 02 2015 23:01 Koshi wrote: There have been so many questions raised against you in the last pages. But if you are so fucking blind you can't read those and answer them I really can't help you anymore. I've answered all the questions I've seen in the thread and im doing my best to keep track of things. It's not because I'm not pushing anyone hard that I'm doing nothing. I'm not confident on my scum reads but I am reevaluating stuff pretty constantly to be able to do PoE | ||
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On December 02 2015 23:24 Koshi wrote: Explain to me why it is fucking impossible that I see you as potential mafia? Or do you think I am mafia? I think you might be town, I'm not sure on you, but I am asking you why am I Mafia so I understand where your suspicions are coming from. Just that. | ||
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On December 02 2015 23:36 Koshi wrote: So you got around 96 hours to figure out you want to do anything and proof to TT, Chrom and Koshi that you are town GB, or you risk getting lynched before Onegu. If you're considering lynching me before Onegu then I won't put a single piece of effort in this game because that's already outrageous | ||
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On December 02 2015 23:34 Koshi wrote: Because since D1 I have no idea anymore 1) How you will solve this game. I have no clue at all. 2) Who your scumreads are. I mean... you think I am mafia, TT is mafia, OO is mafia. You can't know if Onegu is mafia, or scott. So really? Maybe you should just start making a list of people who you would accept losing to if they are mafia. Because you aren't get anywhere. And is not that by time we can cut down the fucking list. Cuz shitters like scott and Onegu are refusing to make a single post about this game in 192 hours. Scott is actually reading the game though. So that is why tomorrow we lynch Scott. And then Onegu. None of these people are strong reads But I'm doing things by PoE So today I don't want to lynch Chrom (top town), Koshi, TT and OO (his latest reactions sounded townie to me) I think scott should be the lynch today since we can afford a mislynch. I think FF cares too little to be Mafia here. Or it would make him more likely to be Mafia? I don't know. But I would always lynch scott first. SICKLUCKER is confirmed town so whatever This is where I'm at | ||
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On December 02 2015 23:58 Koshi wrote: If that is where you are. You shouldn't care if it is fefe or scott. at all. But you do (also in previous posts) which is odd. So I don't know what you are doing. I care because ff was here for a long time and scott wasn't + the way FF's wagon piled up is suspicious | ||
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On December 03 2015 00:31 Koshi wrote: The people you think are mafia didn't even vote. Still the wagon was started suspiciously? TT, marv ded confirmed town, alive confirmed town, Koshi, top town read. Suspiciously... I can't take anything you say seriously GB. In 1 hand I got fuckers that don't play the game. other hand I got GB that say his top townread, a dead townie and a confirmed townie started a suspicious wagon/ Koshi, shocking news: I don't know who is Mafia and that wagon now has almost all the players in, which makes it a bus or... TA-DA! A mislynch!!! I've told you more than once that I'm also not confident on my reads and that I'm kinda doing PoE. | ||
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On the other hand I saw a lot of people talking about lynching lutkers but Scott's name was usually ignored. Which reinforces my suspicions that he is Mafia. + I prefer to lynch the lurkers and if they are town we blame them, but I really don't want to let Mafia lurkets to win the game. I can't bear another Abogadro's Number Mafia. + I forgot but once I remember I'll write it | ||
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All people are doing is "SL was shot, SL suspected FF, let's lynch FF", and the wagon is full. You really can't understand where I'm coming from??? | ||
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On December 03 2015 00:56 Koshi wrote: Or is it the timing of how all the confirmed townies voted for fefe? Was there exactly 2557 seconds between each vote? Illuminati confirmed? Am I reading this wrong? So a bunch of confirmed towns and a townread vote for a guy. GB does not want to lynch this guy because the piling on is suspicious. However, GB thinks the person who is voted on is top 3 mafia. And the 3 people who haven't voted yet are his top 3 mafia reads. (Which can be deduced by his reads and the fact it is an outrage if GB is voted out before Onegu) OMFG WHICH PART OF "I'M NOT CERTAIN OF WHO IS MAFIA SO IT DOESN'T INFLUENCE MY SUSPICIONS ON HOW THE WAGON WAS PILED UP"??? JESUS CHRIST | ||
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On December 03 2015 11:27 sicklucker wrote: I feel like if the team was scott/onegu or some dumb shit mafia would have conceded ( they still might) but lets assume they dont concede that means they are trying. That means one of gb or oo is mafia always. Remember these words of wisdom. The best play is probably to lynch two of scott/onegu and one of gb/chrome to extend the game. But picking one from each group will probably let mafia have a chance Trust me, I'm not Mafia | ||
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On December 03 2015 11:35 Tictock wrote: Can I start calling you BoringBear? Alliteration is always appealing Sure, why not | ||
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On December 03 2015 11:37 sicklucker wrote: gb if your not mafia is the team just onegu scott? i need to see fight Yeah, it could be. I don't know | ||
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On December 04 2015 04:25 sicklucker wrote: ok my job is done rip dont ignore the votes SL, if people take the votes into consideration you'll realise that FF voted me. So your vote count thing isn't really a thing. Also, just because FF flipped red it doesn't mean that the reason you've scum read him for was right. It's like that classis math exam where you have to choose option A or B and you use all the wrong formulas but choose the right option. Anyway, go on | ||
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On December 04 2015 07:26 Tictock wrote: None of this post makes any sense. FF did NOT vote you GB, what you smokin? (are you sharing?) Oxygen I saw it wrong LOL! Anyway, the second paragraph is still right | ||
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On December 05 2015 03:46 sicklucker wrote: Like thisi s probably the mafia qt right now featuring scott and gb. you know were really screwed but on the plus side onegu is the most scummy and dumb person of all time we cant give up yet Wow did you get the link to it??? | ||
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On December 06 2015 07:07 Onegu wrote: Chrome is last mafia. Onegu has figured out the game. You are welcome. You have my bow | ||
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On December 06 2015 08:37 Koshi wrote: But it is only an option for the people who love to play mafia. Because the cancer team took the mafia out of this game. It's almost always Onegu. Dont get fucked due to the meta nobody even double checked. Because he does do a little bit normally. While here he is just adding to the paranoia train because he needs 2 more ml. 99% of the times Onegu is the lynch. For me it is 100% I'm kinda confident last mafia is Chrom | ||
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I am town Therefore all I have is Onegu and Chrom Since I THINK Onegu is more likely to be town here, Chrom is suspicious to me (I was already thinking about this before) and it fits his play very well | ||
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Don't lynch him and lose the game then. Then I'll requote this. | ||
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On December 06 2015 08:54 Koshi wrote: You can just type solely "yes" next time. Then I got to read less words. Keep posting this so I can have more than one quote to PM you every day | ||
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On December 06 2015 08:57 Koshi wrote: I would like to point out I had Chrom as mafia D1, and I didn't want to vote Vivax or TT. Cool Do you understand where I'm coming from? | ||
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On December 06 2015 09:11 Koshi wrote: This compared to Onegu who was always here reading. Following the thread. Who has not have an original thought ever. Who DOES NOT HAVE A FUCKING TOWN META OF DOING LITERALLY NOTHING YOU DUMB MORONS, he does less, but still does things for town. While this game he starts playing to add to the paranoia train on Chrom WITHOUT ANY FUCKING REASONS TO GIVE TOWN. Ugh. I can't possibly be bothered to push a guy that is completely null over a guy that actually played the game and is most likely town. Just because some braindead fucks decide paranoia is bliss. Meh You're right We are always lynching Onegu here. | ||
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On December 06 2015 09:09 Koshi wrote: Oh stupid that I wasn't here for shennanies, but explain to me why Chrom would like to kill Onegu and modkill scott? Because that would give town another ml. A ml Chrom needs. Then on top of that, his D3 was fucking awesome and he followed my train of thought perfectly. On top of that, why would he change the killtarget from sicklucker -> Koshi and risk another save on N3? Why would he do work N3, he already bussed for towncred and nobody looked his way?: + Show Spoiler + On December 03 2015 02:36 Chromatically wrote: I understand GB's thing about scott vs FF today. I don't think his thing about the FF wagon piling up too easily makes a lot of logical sense given his reads but I don't think it makes him a lynch before Onegu by any means. On December 03 2015 04:17 Chromatically wrote: I really don't think GB is the lynch over FF today at all On December 03 2015 06:45 Chromatically wrote: It's pretty nice how like the whole town circle has essentially the same PoE list. We just have to collectively find one solid town out of there and we should be able to pull this off. On December 03 2015 06:46 Chromatically wrote: also lol @ FF, "spirits making me actually give a shit about this game" indeed On December 03 2015 07:03 Chromatically wrote: There's probably a lot of info in those interactions D1 with SL pushing him and people taking sides on that, I'll go check that out at some point. On December 03 2015 16:25 Chromatically wrote: So I read through early D1 again to see how things went down when SL pushed FF for outing his smurf so early. Here are the relevant people's reactions: Out of these, I would say that scott and Onegu's are the worst (huge information, I know). scott gives as little of an opinion on it as humanly possible, just says that it's NAI and passes. Very easy for mafia to do, want to avoid giving opinions on their partners. Onegu says that FF looks worse for outing his smurf, but then never mentions FF again after it. He leaves his vote on Koshi all of D1 for no reason over someone he thinks is scummy (this part could just be him not playing at all). I think this reaction makes a lot of sense from mafia who know that the points on FF are correct but don't want to actually push them by bringing it up later. OO at least takes a stance on the issue. SL brought up earlier that mafia would probably have followed my argument against him and OO is the prime culprit of that, but it's a better reaction than scott/Onegu's at least. And since everyone else is convinced about him, I'm fine not dealing with him until after we have mafia #2. GB goes as far as to call SL mafia for his push, which would be a kind of bold move for mafia but it's certainly not out of the realm of possibility. So scott and Onegu look scummier, OO and GB mostly null. Not super helpful conclusions but it does make me feel good about lynching scott and Onegu. I thought Chrom voted OO at the shenanigan's time? | ||
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On December 06 2015 09:34 Koshi wrote: From what I can read, he wanted Onegu but 2 other wanted OO, so he sheeped them because you need to vote together. Well, Koshi, if Chrom is the last Mafia he would shenannie on anyone just to have one less ML No wait Let me do the math | ||
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On December 06 2015 09:41 Koshi wrote: As mafia he would not want to shennanies because he would lose a ml to town..... But w.e. He could be mafia, (not really), but his play is superb then. Nobody gives reasons good enough to lynch him over Onegu. Just lynch ONegu and do w.e you want after that. Just lynch Onegu. I will lynch Onegu because that's objectively the best play. Koshi he can try to mislynch anyone, he is already top town. LYLO would be 4 people instead of final 3. One less mislynch he needs to accomplish | ||
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On December 06 2015 09:43 Koshi wrote: As mafia he gives town another flip FFS! Town has 2 ml at this point. Let's say Onegu get's modkilled now. (was the other way around if we lynched Onegu and modkill scott) Then we STILL GOT 2 ml. Which means we can lynch/choose 3 people instead of 2. OH nevermind. Got it. You're right | ||
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On December 06 2015 09:46 Onegu wrote: It does save him a ml if he lynched town and scott was modkilled it would go 7/1 next day instead of 8/1 that goes down to 3/1mylo vs 4/1 lylo-1 We are actually 6 - 1 right now. So next day will be 5 - 1 Then the other day it's final 4 If he killed a townie we would be 5 - 1 Next day would be 4 - 1 LYLO would be final 3 | ||
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On December 06 2015 09:49 Onegu wrote: oh I was counting the ghosts... OOOOH I forgot them | ||
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On December 06 2015 10:22 Koshi wrote: No seriously. GB is going to give me shit if Chrome is mafia. While I said Chrome was mafia D1. And how did GB reply? : Brilliant player that GB. That was before the lynch on Vivax happened. And that's not even a response to your scum read on Chrom. This was unfair, Koshi, come on. | ||
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On December 06 2015 10:58 Koshi wrote: it was during night. After Vivax. But it is less fair. Yeah I meant after I might be braindead today, after all | ||
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On December 06 2015 11:50 Koshi wrote: Oh and fefe voted for Chrome when TT could be lynched over Vivax and I didn't vote Vivax yet. kinda makes TT almost 99% town. Maybe more. This is actually very accurate | ||
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On December 06 2015 12:43 Koshi wrote: sicklucker found that out 48 hours ago btw. He also said I was with scott in the Mafia qt | ||
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On December 07 2015 07:04 sicklucker wrote: not at all he was confirmed town and an easy medic dodge. it can also to make you look like mafia or you are mafia Yeah, looks like it was to frame me. I'm saging yhst it is weird that we have two shots. Maybe it wasn't a save, but just a statement that you were protected | ||
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On December 07 2015 08:21 sicklucker wrote: like ghosts dont know whos town or mafia. its the ghosts way to give reads as well. say they save me here and im not the kill it would mean marv town reads me Yeah, it's just that I was wondering if vengeful spirits could have an extra kp | ||
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On December 07 2015 13:56 sicklucker wrote: vengeful spirits are not mafia there the towns we lynch aka vivax. we know this because he existed after vivax was lynched and not after a mafia was They existed but they didn't vote until Mafia died, right? | ||
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On December 08 2015 00:48 Koshi wrote: Don't be a retard GB. It annoys the living shit out of me. Tell me what's wrong in my thought process Tell me why would I fucking kill TT under the current circumstances. | ||
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On December 08 2015 02:43 Koshi wrote: It is impossible to see you as not mafia when you even lie about the fact tt was not confirmed town in the fucking sentence in which you claim to have no reason to kill tt. OH GOD DID HE GET PROTECTED WHEN NOBODY DIED? NO! SO HE WASN'T FUCKING CONFIRMED TOWN OMFG | ||
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On December 08 2015 04:06 Koshi wrote: And the most annoying thing about you GB is that you come in this thread pretending you are some sort of fucking town Messiah who is going to explain how the future lynches need to go using as little logic as possible, while feigning some sort of shitty cluelessness about how to solve the game except using PoE, and being offended if called mafia. it doesn't fucking fit. I classified it under GB is a dumbass I should ignore because he is not mafia because marv told me and he did play pretty well D1 and fefe filter had him somewhat cleared on a technically but seriously all those reasons are fucking shit and TT woke me up. Not only by dieing but also those posts he made. Which you read before the night ended. So unless you want to make a real effort you can really just stfu and go away GB. town or mafia. I'm sorry Koshi, but there are things that I don't have to put effort to explain. When I use "confirmed town" I am talking about host-confirmed town. So, no matter how hard townread someone is, they will never be confirmed town if his alignment can't be proved by mechanics. So when you question me when I use the term "confirmed town" as like it doesn't make sense, I will obviously lose my shit. I'm telling you that if I were Mafia is way much better to have TT alive and turn his tunnel against him, or just keep him alive just to not confirm him and throw suspicions at me. If you believe this or not, it's your problem, not mine. But what bothers me is that there is an evidence that I'm probably not Mafia. And that evidence was that I hard defended scum!FF to push scum!scott. This doesn't make sense as Mafia because: 1) If I want to bus it's because I want towncred. If I want towncred I could simply vote FF and not have all that bullshit thrown at me at that time. In other words, if I don't manage to lynch scott and my partner flips Mafia I will have a hard time with suspicions thrown at me and maybe even getting mislynched on the next day. 2) If I want a mislynch I won't try to have scott lynched (duh). And let's be honest: the more time Mafia has all their partners alive, closer they are to victory. And there were A LOT of other possible targets other than scott and FF. Onegu and OO could be lynched very easily. Why putting some effort just to have my other partner as a wagon? Hell, why would I even townread OO for that reason? I could just keep hard townreading Chrome and force a lynch on OO. Why townreading a mislynch? If I'm Mafia I NEED his mislynch, because it would be way easier to have him lynched instead of going against Chrome. You can say that I haven't been active and that I haven't been putting effort since day2. That's right. But I AM playing the game. I've been very busy but I often come to the thread to see where it is going and I comment on stuff being discussed. I don't have to hard push someone. I would if I had a clear scum read. I don't. I think Chrom, OO and Onegu have fair shots on being Mafia. That said, I was rethinking about OO and something got into my attention. I may have given him a town read for a reaction but there are some evidence that makes me think otherwise. When Onegu and Scott were equally horrible lurkers, OO tried to push a lynch on Onegu but mostly (mostly) ignored Scott's existence. All that I remarkably remember from him was his pushes on Onegu. This, per se, is already bad. Now that we are in this dichotomy of who to lynch, he agrees we should lynch Chrome. Well, if the thought Onegu was a fair lynch before, why not going against Onegu now? This makes him look worse. You can add to that the fact that he townreads me, but I never saw the thought process that made him reach this conclusion. In fact, I never saw him evaluating and reevaluting my alignment. Actually, his townread on me came out of the blue, and it doesn't make sense that he never casted a doubt on me (like you guys casted). Chrome had a crystal clear play in this game. That's my problem with it. It is too clear. That's why I suspected him yesterday. His play makes too much sense, he is very objective and the points he brings are very good. Typical of a very good player or someone who simply has perfect information. His play lacks some town paranoia, some mess up thoughts, some reevaluation that usually comes from townies. Adding to that (but kinda WIFOMy), he is alive. He has been hard townread since night 1 but sicklucker and Koshi were shot before him. Why? How come he wasn't shot until today if he is basically town Jesus? (Yes, I know why this is wifom and that could be a medic dodge, but still, it's an okay thing to think). Also WIFOMy, if OO was Mafia, Chrom should've died already. But this is WIFOM. What isn't WIFOM is that Chrom have been hard scumreading OO since day 1 but being very comfortable with letting his target live to lynch another target. After three days of mislynches, I think anyone with a constant scumread would try hard to have his target lynched. And I sill don't see Chrom doing this. Which makes me very suspicious of him. Onegu is being Onegu, so, yeah. This is where I'm at, Koshi. I have reasons to scum/townread the three of them, and I really don't know who is a better lynch. The arguments on OO seems to me the strongest, but the fact that Chrome is alive and that some of his reactions sounded pretty genuine gives me pause. Then there are the two faces of Chrome's play; the very good player or the perfect information scum. And then there's Onegu who I refuse to lose the game to if he is Mafia. It's just a matter of who to lynch first IMO. And I prefer to decide this by coming to the thread and read what you guys post and try to comment what I find important, and to show you I'm town so we can get on the right traction. That's it. | ||
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On December 08 2015 18:25 ObviousOne wrote: all done already i was eating ribs at the time so i typed one-handed it was pretty amaze You had me as town. What changed? | ||
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On December 08 2015 20:47 ObviousOne wrote: You and me were the only two to really gain from shooting TT and it's not me Resting on your laurels since fecal died Nobody wants to kill chrom with me Looked at fecal and Onegu filters so it's either you or chrom Or Koshi is god tier mafia like I said before but he deserves to win if that's the case Basically, nothing changed so you could flip your read on me. Just because I'm being voted you've decided I'm Mafia. Argh. | ||
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On December 08 2015 21:02 Koshi wrote: put it in words why you think that. I will put a reason for why OO, Chrom and GB are town next to each one you give why Onegu is town. But not the useless meta. Because I know the useless Onegu meta as town and this is not it. It is not this. Actually it's a town tell that I still need to confirm but I think town Onegu is more prone to waste his votes as town than as Mafia. Usually, as Mafia, he uses his votes consciously to help his team. Here he is just constantly voting you, doing whatever. | ||
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On December 08 2015 23:55 Koshi wrote: Looking at today posting I almost can't believe it is either Chrom/OO or GB anyway. To be fair I'm way more suspicious of OO today. I still have this feeling Onegu is town here but it's impossible to disagree that he is the best lynch today... | ||
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On December 09 2015 00:03 Koshi wrote: Grr. I wonder who this Vengeful spirit is. It concerns me a bit because I can't believe it is Vivax. Really? He still cares? Maybe he does. But why instant vote Onegu? He cares that much? Kinda odd. We can't find out who or how the spirits operates. Let them do their own job and we do ours | ||
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On December 09 2015 00:04 Koshi wrote: I like this post a lot. And the one he said he had a feeling it was Chrom against better judgement felt townie as well. Funny, I hate this post. Most of his arguments are based on facts that made him townread me. He only decided I was Mafia when I stopped scumreading him/got votes on me. Somehow FF's and Onegu's filter PoE's me and Chrom for some reason I can't understand. Now he is voting Onegu. | ||
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On December 09 2015 04:28 Chromatically wrote: lol we switcherood at the same time GB idk I'll be back before lynch to figure things out more OO has been doing a whole lot of read flipping LOL ok Ok ok, I'll wait until deadline. I'll be here | ||
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On December 09 2015 04:44 Koshi wrote: I ll be here as well. If you are not sure you are here you can switch already. I'll definitely be here. | ||
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On December 09 2015 06:49 Onegu wrote: You cant handle the truth! Son we live in a fourm where scum need to be caught. And those scum need to be caught by men with reads. Whose going to do it? You? You Sicklucker? I have a greater responsibility than you can possibly fathom. You weep for Sn0 and you curse the people who mislynched him. You have that luxury. You have the luxury of not knowing what I know. That Sn0's death while tragic probably won us this game. And my existence while grotesque, and incomprehensible to you wins the game! You dont want the truth because deep down in places you dont talk about in threads you want me in this game you NEED me in this game! We use words like reads, analysis, and cases as the backbone of figuring games out. You use them as a punchline. I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to someone who posts in a thread I win for them. And the question the manner in which I win it for them. I would rather you just said thank you and went on your way. Otherwise I suggest you read a filter and make a read either way I dont give a damn to what you think. This is so confusing that I once thought this was slam and chez fusing with coagulation | ||
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On December 09 2015 06:56 Chromatically wrote: lol what GB how eh whatever, doesn't matter I just feel it | ||
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On December 09 2015 06:58 Chromatically wrote: If OO gets lynched and flips mafia I'd like to say that I still get all the credit here Nobody was here by deadlibe :/ | ||
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On December 09 2015 07:14 Half the Sky wrote: You hear a voice that sounds like Tictock Kill He who called out a mafia drink for a wasted Vote, then proceeded to townread him and react strangly to his wagon. His read on the absent scum was null, into town, then hardcore Scum. Perhaps he realized it was time to drive the bus. -Both Ghosts of Night So this is how it is to be haunted by an annoying ghost | ||
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On December 09 2015 07:18 GlowingBear wrote: So this is how it is to be haunted by an annoying ghost Just to be clear, when I asked FF about the wasted vote and he said he thought a possible shenanigans could occur, I thought that it was completely under the possibilities of his town play. And I never hard townread FF, I saw things that could make him possibly town to survive more days than a lot of townies here. | ||
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Then he went to null because he could try harder even if he had problems. He was dropping to null then to mafiaish when he simply came to the thread to say he was busy and to ninja vote twice. If e has the time I say he is busy, he could've at least tried to engage in some discussion. Then I realised that he was probably pulling a BH because if he had such big problem he would simply ask for a replacement. He didn't because it wasn't just a problem (if he really had a problem), but a play. | ||
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On December 09 2015 13:11 sicklucker wrote: theres o replacementd in this game and its probably why it was cancer nd part of why i townread onegu. its ogi stuff but hes dead so i can sy it, onegu replaced out of the other ongoing game so he would have here if he could have. I like the idea of not allowing relacements but you have to monitor the player list first lol Sorry, could you rewrite the sentences? I couldn't understand you. Also, I meant that if scott was town he would ask for a replacement and there was no post in the replacement thread | ||
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On December 09 2015 13:15 sicklucker wrote: like screw you koshi if we went h my plan to lynch gb and oo we probably had auto =[. how dare we let this terrible mafia player have a chance Also, I'm not Mafia. Care to read what I write now that I am actually defending myself? | ||
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On December 09 2015 13:42 sicklucker wrote: how is the relevant shh mafia SL I could talk to you but first I need to understand what you're saying | ||
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On December 10 2015 07:53 Koshi wrote: I actually wanted to vote chrom for pressure but TT/marv take rrsponsability. I will auto vote gb tomorrow Ok GG | ||
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On December 10 2015 17:45 Koshi wrote: I think I am fine with GB. ##vote: GB If we lose to OO, it sucks for you Chromsie. And GB It sucks for you, actually, because you are the one who can't use your brain at LYLO | ||
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In the other hand, I'd rather lose to mafia Chrome than lose to Mafia ObviousOne. So I'm voting him. | ||
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On December 10 2015 21:53 Koshi wrote: Also, I just blame marv. Marv played his part while he was alive. He managed to convince me to look again at TT and SL and I was able to take a step back (and finally be able to hard town read SL). But he is dead now and you hardly know if he is reading the thread right now. You're just blindly voting with him like you blindly voted Vivax even when your reads were exactly the same as his. Vote by yourself for once | ||
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On December 10 2015 22:06 Koshi wrote: I did. I removed cancer from this game and I am really really happy about that. Unfortunately, the cancer was town, just as SL said and I thought at deadline. This is Mafia, Koshi, not Trauma Center | ||
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On December 10 2015 22:44 Koshi wrote: look gb... If I say something it is true. So better use your brain and figure it out. I am sorry bro. I love how you try. But you wont persuade me. Sorry. I am really sorry about this. But it is out of my hands. It won't work. So GG | ||
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On December 11 2015 13:51 Chromatically wrote: RIP game? I guess everything has kind of already been said though, people just have to make the decision. Are you set on GB Koshi? You're mafia | ||
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On December 11 2015 01:21 Chromatically wrote: Yeah. The part about which loss is worse sucks more is kind of silly I think, but there was a reason we were on OO early on and not on GB. GB played townie early and OO didn't. ##Vote: ObviousOne for justice. I hope I get to berate everyone postgame for not agreeing with me on OO the whole game then Or it's just GB and then we win instead! I'm okay with that too. Koshi, Chrome has been pushing OO since the beginning of the game and townreading me. Now it is LYLO and instead of screaming his lungs off I save me and vote his all-times scumread OO, he is okay with me dying. Especially now that he came back and asked if you're set on my lynch. He is clearly not worried about who is getting lynched. | ||
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On December 11 2015 23:54 Koshi wrote: Sorry bro. It is out of my hands. It's actually solely in your hands. Unfortunately | ||
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On December 11 2015 23:55 Koshi wrote: I only feel sorry for Chromie if OO is mafia. And don't come and blame me for my inactivity in the End Game. I've been lurking but very often I came back to the thread to contribute. I've also posted every reason why you should read me as town (since nobody had the brains to figure it out) but you chose to ignore it. So if we lose, and if we lose to OO, you're the main one to blame, just because you couldn't use your brain. Still the only reason you have to scum read me is that my activity and a little of my interest in the game fell down. You have nothing else. It's laughable. | ||
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On December 12 2015 09:01 sicklucker wrote: kosh can you plz go back to putting the blame where it belongs at gb/onegu/bf and many others i probably forgot I take no blame for the loss. 0 blame. You are incredibly annoying sometimes. My god. | ||
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On December 12 2015 09:25 sicklucker wrote: you were the worst still hard to believe you were town. we can talk about this when i get home drunk =] Edit: no need to be an ass. | ||
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On December 12 2015 10:44 Chromatically wrote: gg everyone, and thanks to the hosts as well! It was definitely an interesting setup. I agree with a lot of what Rels said above about it (I think medic probably should have been either public or consecutive but not both), vanilla games are super interesting in general. Weirdly enough, I think this game played out very similarly to the other vanilla game. I think the best point against me was FFs weird push on me, that probably should have been pushed harder. Again if anyone has any advice for me, I'd love to hear it. I tried to be a bit less... invested this game (I usually stress out about the game a lot when I'm mafia) and it definitely made it more enjoyable for me (and made me more relaxed when posting too I think). Your play was really solid here IMO with just one little problem: you have scun read OO the whole game but was fine with anyone else's lynch + town reading me and keeping it but not fighting my mislynch at LYLO. If I wasn't so focused on OO I would have voted you here. Other than that, I think you've played great in here. Especially your reactions and some posts unrelated to the game. Like the end game credits. They were very well faked. | ||
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On December 12 2015 16:11 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Well played chrom. Really thought it was gb from the little I observed in the end. I still have no idea why. I totally understand the argument of "he called out FF for not voting but let him go", but other than that, I see nothing scummy in my play. Whatever | ||
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On December 12 2015 16:07 Chromatically wrote: Yeah, I felt really awkward about that. I didn't really have the effort to push OO hard there when it didn't matter to me but I definitely should have, like I would have as town. I thought that after the game we've played together, in which you tried your best to get me lynched, you decided to take a step back and listen to the rest of the players. But when you keep the scumread when townies are getting mislynched over and over again, I would expect you to say "okay, NOW we are lynching OO. Right NOW!" That's why I suddenly flipped my read on you. There are some kind of reads that can only be made after a couple of days. And I would totally flip my reads because of them. I now see that the biggest problem in my play here was that I didn't explain most of my shit. :/ I've landed on an incredible job, but it is taking a lot of my time and energy, and I just couldn't put the effort of closely reading AND contributing constantly. | ||
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On December 13 2015 03:48 Tictock wrote: - Read progression on Scott and FF was a bit wierd -Seemed like you were attacking people for reading FF as scum, or thinking it based on the Smurf thing -The way you were going back onto me EoD1, with all the "I wanna be right" and "Give me my lynch" -Way you reacted to the FF wagon -Dropped off heavily after D1, never really seemed like you cared after that -Wanted us to think you helping lynch Scott proved you were town (It never does in that situation) -Reads in LyLo seemed like you were most suspicious of Chrom but didn't really have reasons nor did you push very hard and it didn't seem like you cared who got lynched (besides yourself) In short, there were a few things that looked like associations with Scott and FF plus the fact that you dropped off really hard about the time we started lynching Scum. Most of these is actually NAI, and the fact that I went against scott when another partner was up for the lynch is really an indicatice I'm town. But I can understand most of these | ||
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On December 13 2015 07:48 sicklucker wrote: There was like 3 days in arow where you made 1 or two posts max. Or so it felt like. this aligned with town getting 3 nk saves didnt look so great. Literally everyone thought you were mafia over the actual mafia its not just me Yeah, I know this, that's why I was asking what was so scummy in my play. It seems that the drop was very weird, then. | ||
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On December 14 2015 11:00 scott31337 wrote: All I'll mention from what I did catch - is when Marv (or the ghosts) saved SL -town should've focused on why he was saved and why he was attempted to be shot. I know, you didn't know the rules - but it should've been a big phat clue. GG We have found a new place Everything is good now - Moving in to it this week. I was thrown out of my home during the game. I had my situation mostly figured out on Day 3? I think but once I was basically toast I didn't want to say much and just voted to not get modkilled. Chrom played it well enough and if you read the QT I asked to be bussed. I did not know what to say for rolling scum the first day - unlike my last scum game I replaced into - then RL happened and well... I apologize for not "playing" - to everybody in this one. I'm taking a break for at least a month. TY to Rels/Hts and also GB You'll always be my buddy, scum or not <3 come back soon | ||
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