[T][M] Resistance V - Section 31 - Page 89

On November 08 2015 01:22 raynpelikoneet wrote:

not even close.

On November 08 2015 01:24 Xatalos wrote:


You think we can easily nominate 3 all-town missions in a row afterwards?

On November 07 2015 22:28 Half the Sky wrote:
Actually I missed this quote about Xatalos' read on you SL.



Ugh, the sad part here is that I could see both of you playing suboptimally here too. I don't think Xata should have had the reads he did on rayn, post-failure, the first two quotes he posted are IMO NAI, the second quote especially for anyone of either alignment who knows the game well can talk about the scum-packing strategy. (Kita did as well and I know I disregarded that as NAI and was townreading him on other things.)

The problem here is that when I read your filter, I can actually understand your progression on Xatalos. That actually makes Xatalos worse to me and thus of the three, the most likely scum.

On November 08 2015 01:26 raynpelikoneet wrote:

no but it doesnt get much harder even if this mission fails.

On November 08 2015 00:51 Xatalos wrote:


Not very confident on this team...

I mean, Artanis, do you currently townread the people there? Why? Or is this just a reaction test and the "final team" will be something different? I'd think it would be better to post your real suggestion well enough before the deadline.

For example, the Superbia pick doesn't seem to make much sense. You scumread him here:



And there's nothing to indicate you think he's town afterwards? Did his NO vote really matter that much? Or shockeyy/HTS just look worse?

The kita and Rels additions I can somewhat understand. You already townread them before, and neither wanted the previous mission to go through when it should have been scum's main goal to make it approved...

I'm not really sold on the logic that none of us in the first mission should be sent on the second mission though. Since there's probably only one scum on the first team (like rayn said - scum rayn wouldn't probably be eager to send scum SL on the mission with him), I'd think there would be an equal chance of picking town on the team inside or outside the first team (2/3 chance). What's more, SL is quite a lot more likely to be scum than rayn based on play, so all the less reason to exclude us from the mission... Even rayn seemed to agree with excluding us though, but why would that be the obvious solution? I don't really see it. There are just too many potential scum outside of the first mission team. Even if Superbia/kita/Rels all voted NO (townie points, I'll admit), it's not far-fetched for scum to be included there. Meanwhile I'm pretty sure rayn is town and I'm quite clearly town as well, so... Including both of us, or at least me/rayn, would make the mission all-town quite a bit more likely.

The scumteam should be SL + 2 out of shockeyy/HTS/Superbia/Rels/kita. I don't think I can vote YES on a team that has most of its members from those. I guess Superbia/Rels/kita are the most likely town out of those (since they voted NO), but still... I'm like 90% sure rayn is town and not at all sure that Superbia/Rels/kita are all town.

rayn, would be nice if you explained what's the logic behind excluding us two? Just so that the mission is more likely to be voted YES? I don't think it makes sense to make people vote YES at the expense of more likely including scum :/ We still have several leader cycles after all, and you're even next in order yourself.

As for Artanis himself, I'm not as confident on him as on rayn (voted YES and has previously been very townie as scum), but I guess we'll just have to bet on him. It's kind of like how we couldn't afford to lynch him if this was normal Mafia.

On November 08 2015 01:28 Xatalos wrote:


I guess so... But it's still harder to be one step away from defeat than two.

Will have to go soon. Anything before I go?

On November 08 2015 00:59 Xatalos wrote:


I didn't say HTS voted NO?

On November 08 2015 01:00 Xatalos wrote:


Mainly because I think rayn is town. Also because you still haven't answered how your read progression on me worked until now, and why Rels is 100% town. If you want to convince me otherwise, start from there.

On November 08 2015 01:01 raynpelikoneet wrote:
sicklucker why are you questioning Xatalos when you think i am more likely to be mafia?

On November 08 2015 01:12 raynpelikoneet wrote:

You mean this?
Because i can't be 100% sure of which of you two is mafia.

If you think Shockeyy/HtS/SL is the scumteam why are you not okay with the current team?

Like neither of you is okay with the current team so i think the team is all town.

On November 08 2015 01:32 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
##Nominate Artanis[Xp], Raynpelikoneet, Superbia, Kitaman27
Fuck the police.