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Xatalos
Finland9675 Posts
On November 02 2015 23:55 raynpelikoneet wrote: There are certain situations where not picking yourself as town is the best move you can possibly make. Hm? | ||
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Half the Sky
Germany9029 Posts
On November 02 2015 23:43 ShoCkeyy wrote: How much can I trust you with that piece of information? The one thing I'm getting from you right now is that you're friends with rayn, as to where I see rayn being on the other side of the fence due to my previous encounters with him. I think your meta read on rayn is wrong, but at least I understand why it's wrong. And when you say you are "friends" with rayn, can you clarify that? Are you suggesting he's buddying rayn (this is scum indicative) - because I cannot tell from context. Or are you suggesting those two are legitimately townreading each other? | ||
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kitaman27
United States9245 Posts
On November 02 2015 23:52 raynpelikoneet wrote: The problem is that is actually bad advice. rayn trying to trap me into talking about setup more. NOT FALLING FOR IT! | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
On November 02 2015 23:56 Half the Sky wrote: I think your meta read on rayn is wrong, but at least I understand why it's wrong. And when you say you are "friends" with rayn, can you clarify that? Are you suggesting he's buddying rayn (this is scum indicative) - because I cannot tell from context. Or are you suggesting those two are legitimately townreading each other? Interesting. | ||
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Half the Sky
Germany9029 Posts
On November 02 2015 23:55 raynpelikoneet wrote: There are certain situations where not picking yourself as town is the best move you can possibly make. I can agree with this. That said as for my picking the team, my RL situation aside, I have yet to see any objections from anyone to myself being on the team. | ||
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Half the Sky
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raynpelikoneet
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Half the Sky
Germany9029 Posts
On November 03 2015 00:01 raynpelikoneet wrote: Did anyone actually look at the game and why i got mad there? This game? (or another?) Yeh this game, I know why, and even drew out that explanation in quering Rels. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
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Xatalos
Finland9675 Posts
On November 02 2015 23:54 Half the Sky wrote: Xatalos - because I haven't looked into you that closely. Aside from yourself, where else do you disagree, or do you? At least you agree on the other two to take. And yes there are still too many nulls. Artanis has legit reasons (the ones he's cited are reasons he's discussed with me out of game and prior to this game starting) and I know sicklucker sleeps during the day and works at night. So I don't know if that will resolve at least before I fly home before deadline, or if that even happens. Well, continue reading  Hm.. I'd maybe put Rels into the null pile. I think his explanations somewhat made sense, and he's actively doing stuff (even if he can be active as scum, it's still easier to be a little less active than that as scum). Otherwise it seemed generally okay. I don't think you ordered the reads within the groups? | ||
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Xatalos
Finland9675 Posts
On November 03 2015 00:01 raynpelikoneet wrote: Did anyone actually look at the game and why i got mad there? Yeah you messed up the vote timing I think? Well, you basically lost because of it, so I can understand getting angry in that situation. | ||
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kitaman27
United States9245 Posts
On November 02 2015 20:41 Superbia wrote: 2. It downplays scum. 2 is super weird from a town perspective, and leans me more towards mafia. Regardless I feel like commenting on how "weak" mafia is is mafia indicative as it sets up for a lax game. This seems like quite the over analysis for an intro one-liner. There doesn't have to be spy motivation in every post. Why conclude that he is somehow pushing an agenda where it benefits him to trick town into thinking the spies will get steam rolled. On November 02 2015 20:41 Superbia wrote: I feel like if you were town and believed this you would've focused on the strength of town, rather than the weakness of mafia, and as a result, would've said something along the lines of "mafia gonna get #rekt #noqt" (or something less trolly) Really a stretch here. More speculation without basis than anything. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
On November 03 2015 00:07 Xatalos wrote: Yeah you messed up the vote timing I think? Well, you basically lost because of it, so I can understand getting angry in that situation. yep, completely the same thing than getting mad at someone's terrible argument, right? | ||
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Xatalos
Finland9675 Posts
On November 03 2015 00:03 raynpelikoneet wrote: After your read on Xatalos, HtS, i would like you to explain how do you get where shockeyyy is coming from with his read. Well, I hope he's currently reading the game I linked. If he comes to the conclusion that you rage regardless, he could be misguided town. If he keeps pushing it, he's probably scum. | ||
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Xatalos
Finland9675 Posts
On November 03 2015 00:08 raynpelikoneet wrote: yep, completely the same thing than getting mad at someone's terrible argument, right? Haha... Btw is there some real difference in rayn's ragefests between alignments? Maybe he gets angry a bit easier as town? I don't think he even got really MAD in the VS game, compared to the Vanilla game. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
On November 03 2015 00:12 Xatalos wrote: Haha... Btw is there some real difference in rayn's ragefests between alignments? Maybe he gets angry a bit easier as town? I don't think he even got really MAD in the VS game, compared to the Vanilla game. Probably not. I don't actually fake emotion as mafia. | ||
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Half the Sky
Germany9029 Posts
On November 03 2015 00:05 Xatalos wrote: Well, continue reading Hm.. I'd maybe put Rels into the null pile. I think his explanations somewhat made sense, and he's actively doing stuff (even if he can be active as scum, it's still easier to be a little less active than that as scum). Otherwise it seemed generally okay. I don't think you ordered the reads within the groups? No not really but if I had to Kita was more scummy than Rels, and rayn is more town if I am splitting hairs than Superbia. Nulls - SL/Artanis are policy lynch equivalent. At least Shockey is now trying to do something. And rayn, quick response to your question as I read Xata's filter - my comments there were in reference to that Shockey is (meta) reading you off one game. The read isn't malicious (from what I can tell) but I pointed out that his tone is NAI and he assumed it to be so. It's wrong, I pointed out why it's wrong, but as we are discussing it, there is no malicious (mafia) intent. Still I feel I need more to see him more clear as town because that is the only substance I see from him now. Does that make sense? | ||
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kitaman27
United States9245 Posts
On November 03 2015 00:13 raynpelikoneet wrote: Probably not. I don't actually fake emotion as mafia. Do you find Rels would be so antagonistic against you, the person pushing discussion in the thread, on day one as spy? Making firm conclusions like "rayn leaving the thread as soon as he's being pushed is scum indicative. Please don't include him in a team.". | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
On November 03 2015 00:15 kitaman27 wrote: Do you find Rels would be so antagonistic against you, the person pushing discussion in the thread, on day one as spy? Making firm conclusions like "rayn leaving the thread as soon as he's being pushed is scum indicative. Please don't include him in a team.". Definitely could be the case given how the last game with Xatalos went. | ||
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