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sicklucker
Canada16987 Posts
On November 15 2015 06:18 kitaman27 wrote: This goes so far against Rel's reads all game long that it seems like he wants a re-do on the previous team or something. well if rels is mafia (he probably ) then hes not gonna go. well you got me guys! hes gonna try to position himself to get on the 5th mission | ||
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Half the Sky
Germany9029 Posts
On November 15 2015 05:36 sicklucker wrote: im pretty sure im vivax's strongest townread now and its very logical. Do you live in paris? The answer to that question is yes, we've chatted out of game  Aside, overall I feel this is a WIFOM attempt to (perhaps?) eventually get on someone's team and eventually fail a mission. I will explain why in his world, this proposal does not make sense from town side. (All references at bottom of post so you can see context and judge for yourselves.) From town side. Rels was hard scumreading Artanis and in his world one of Artanis or myself has to be mafia. He is proposing a team with both of us on it. He was asking me multiple times (well at least once I know I recall) why I was townreading Artanis. He concluded that one of us has to be scum. Now? He places both of us on the team. Second he hard townreads rayn. Now? He leaves him off. Not as sharp as the first point, but quite curious given prior reads. Furthermore he pushes the line that it's not possible that two scums voted no, and then Artanis and I having both voted yes, he puts us both up. (I don't believe I misunderstood this.) What changed? (of course, when you can answer, I understand obv not right away) Overall, ironically the team he's put up is a clean team, but seeing as town have to get three missions passed to win and scum only need to fail one more, I have a strong sense of WIFOM/disassociation/tinfoil/whatever you want to call it about so another scummer (or him?) can slip through on a later mission (Kita's or someone else slipping up). Follow the read progression folks. References: 1 Scumreading Artanis v myself Rels' filter page 20/thread page 127-128 (posts 2540/2552) Rels' filter page 21/thread pages 129 on and off through 138 (posts 2572, 2638, 2639, 2640, 2654, 2667, 2758) Rels' filter page 22/thread page 139 (posts 2766) - trying to convince Artanis he's scum) 2 Townread of rayn Rels' filter page 22/thread page 139-140 (post 2769/2773/2775/2777/2779/2782/2783) - Artanis' post on familiarity is valid as Rels has played 3 games with rayn (SOTW, Newbie 13, Drams) at least 2 he was abrasive, warned in Drams (which rayn admitted to). 3 Rels pushing the two scums voting no line Rels' filter page 23/thread page 143 (post 2844) - he was pushing that well before that page before but that was the latest he was pushing that idea | ||
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Half the Sky
Germany9029 Posts
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Xatalos
Finland9675 Posts
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sicklucker
Canada16987 Posts
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Half the Sky
Germany9029 Posts
On November 15 2015 06:49 sicklucker wrote: well if rels is mafia (he probably ) then hes not gonna go. well you got me guys! hes gonna try to position himself to get on the 5th mission Are you scared of Artanis/myself because of tinfoil/voting record or something else? If it's voting record, read my explanations right after the voting passed for the mission 2 team plus my last explanation to Xatalos (post 3032/3044) and let me know if you still have a problem with me at least. | ||
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Half the Sky
Germany9029 Posts
On November 15 2015 07:26 sicklucker wrote: we should all vote no to this and see who votes yes. ill put up pretty much the same team next anyway. more info the better and artanis can still be scum. Dont say you agree if you agree ill vote no I will be very honest, I really feel this team is clean. But if you want me to downvote this team, I can. I definitely trust you and Vivax and that will put the 5th mission in my hands (assuming we all downvote whatever Kita puts up) so I can go either way on this. I can also do one final check on Artanis as well prior to upvoting. | ||
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sicklucker
Canada16987 Posts
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sicklucker
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sicklucker
Canada16987 Posts
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Half the Sky
Germany9029 Posts
But if it is trust you need me to resolve and you're tinfoiling me, then I'll downvote it for you. I think that might be the issue here. | ||
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Half the Sky
Germany9029 Posts
On November 15 2015 07:31 sicklucker wrote: Like i just want more information. please dont prevote like me I just had to because if im the only no vote it will probably pass. If the info gained favors artanis ill probably put him up myself Alright, fair enough. I can accept this. | ||
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Fidei86
United Kingdom2116 Posts
##Nominate Artanis/Vivax/HTS/Shockey 24 hour vote. Will pretty up post when I get a chance. | ||
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Artanis[Xp]
Netherlands12968 Posts
I can vote either way really. I still think the team's clean and he's just trying to wifom, but a good team will probably come up soon anyway. | ||
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Coagulation
United States9633 Posts
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Vivax
21960 Posts
He has these brash parts of his filter where he does what the fuck he wants which is kinda townie, but then there are also parts, especially at the start of the game, where I feel like he's going after people for bad reasons. It's so tough to read new players. | ||
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Vivax
21960 Posts
Check this out, it's around the mission Xata issued. Pre-mission-pass: On November 05 2015 10:47 raynpelikoneet wrote: Fuck you are so town sl.  Post-mission-pass: On November 06 2015 09:21 raynpelikoneet wrote: Haha^^ GJ town game is gg. On November 07 2015 18:29 raynpelikoneet wrote: I never pushed SL to be on the mission. As you see, he actually believes the mission passes, then he comes back and realizes that everyone else has another opinion and immediately defends himself from the notion that he wanted SL on a mission. That doesn't add up Paying more attention to the way he talks to Rels pre-mission, it looks to me like he gets angry to have an excuse to leave. Pushes scum on Shockey and Rels, but especially on Rels. Will post more as I keep on reading. | ||
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Vivax
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Vivax
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ShoCkeyy
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