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On November 15 2015 01:57 Half the Sky wrote:Show nested quote +On November 15 2015 01:53 Xatalos wrote:
Hm, so I assume you've dropped the earlier arguments by now then? It's just hard to tell because it's a continuous push where you switch arguments whenever you can, and kind of leave the earlier arguments hanging in there.
I think you said you haven't seen my towngame, so I'd say you're unqualified to talk about my towngame in any case. I usually stick to my reads as town, unless there's heavy reason to reconsider. Your vote record and push on me have kept being awful, so...
That latter argument "I took attention off my teammates" is just unflipped association. You just assume someone is scum and I'm scum when I'm not scumreading them (at least as much as you are). Not very convincing. The point I tried to make and I did in my earlier post is that you failed to answer any question or take a stance on Kita or Rels prior to the team going up. "It's not the best and it's not the worst" simply means it's easier for you to evade accountability regardless of anyone's alignment. The answer you simply gave to rayn was poor irrespective of their alignments.
Well, since I thought they were mediocre choices, should I have said they were good or bad? No.
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kitaman27
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On November 15 2015 01:35 Half the Sky wrote:Show nested quote +On November 14 2015 23:25 kitaman27 wrote:
Riddle me this, if there were two spies on the second mission where did me and Rels coordinate how to avoid the double sabotage?
We chose to pass it, so there had to be some secret communication to avoid essentially loosing the game automatically, yet there was only one sabotage.
It's very rare for a scum team to upvote a double spy mission because of this reason. No coordination is needed. If I recall correctly, it was also discussed prior to the game that the spy at/closer to the top of the list would be the one to pull it off. It was hashed out by Artanis and rayn. Posts #67 and #69 of the thread.
I was under the impression that the host decided the rules, not some random comment from rayn.
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On November 15 2015 02:01 kitaman27 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 15 2015 01:35 Half the Sky wrote:On November 14 2015 23:25 kitaman27 wrote:
Riddle me this, if there were two spies on the second mission where did me and Rels coordinate how to avoid the double sabotage?
We chose to pass it, so there had to be some secret communication to avoid essentially loosing the game automatically, yet there was only one sabotage.
It's very rare for a scum team to upvote a double spy mission because of this reason. No coordination is needed. If I recall correctly, it was also discussed prior to the game that the spy at/closer to the top of the list would be the one to pull it off. It was hashed out by Artanis and rayn. Posts #67 and #69 of the thread. I was under the impression that the host decided the rules, not some random comment from rayn.
Well, we did talk about it extensively in the pre-game. I don't think we'll ever see 2 sabotages per mission in this game.
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You basically said Kita had more credibility based off an associative read.
On November 10 2015 23:39 Xatalos wrote:Show nested quote +On November 10 2015 22:49 Rels wrote:
Xata, why are you suspicious of me ?
Why are you suspicious of kita ? The NO votes look good for you two, it's just not on the level of a confident townread. Kita for being so vague and non-committal throughout the game, and you because your recent scumgames looked pretty similar to this game too (very active and engaged..). Now that I think about it, though, scum HTS would have had no good reason to put scum Kita into the first team.... So that gives kita a bit more credibility at least.
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You even said that Kita was vague and noncomittal. Irrespective of your read on me you should have voted this team down.
I was negligent with Kita and I openly admitted that. I fucked that one up. Rels when I re-evaluated him, I was wrong in my evaluation. But with (now knowing) two on the team it was moot. Even if I HAD tinfoiled Kita, I would have fucked up on Rels still.
In any case, if you had reasonable doubt, you should have proposed an alternative to those two players or searched for one. Not fade out (yes I read from there to page 115 which was end of phase) and pass the team.
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On November 15 2015 02:01 kitaman27 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 15 2015 01:35 Half the Sky wrote:On November 14 2015 23:25 kitaman27 wrote:
Riddle me this, if there were two spies on the second mission where did me and Rels coordinate how to avoid the double sabotage?
We chose to pass it, so there had to be some secret communication to avoid essentially loosing the game automatically, yet there was only one sabotage.
It's very rare for a scum team to upvote a double spy mission because of this reason. No coordination is needed. If I recall correctly, it was also discussed prior to the game that the spy at/closer to the top of the list would be the one to pull it off. It was hashed out by Artanis and rayn. Posts #67 and #69 of the thread. I was under the impression that the host decided the rules, not some random comment from rayn.
Coagulation said the same thing I did. Are you trolling me now Kita?
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Sidenote - Rels if I could hug you right now, I would. <3
I'm going out again. Will be in and out.
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I guess I should have, in hindsight. But I really doubted SL's auto-nomination would have worked any better (and that's where it looked like things were going with the team being so harshly rejected in the most recent vote). At least rayn's team had a chance.
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kitaman27
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On November 15 2015 02:09 Half the Sky wrote:Show nested quote +On November 15 2015 02:01 kitaman27 wrote:On November 15 2015 01:35 Half the Sky wrote:On November 14 2015 23:25 kitaman27 wrote:
Riddle me this, if there were two spies on the second mission where did me and Rels coordinate how to avoid the double sabotage?
We chose to pass it, so there had to be some secret communication to avoid essentially loosing the game automatically, yet there was only one sabotage.
It's very rare for a scum team to upvote a double spy mission because of this reason. No coordination is needed. If I recall correctly, it was also discussed prior to the game that the spy at/closer to the top of the list would be the one to pull it off. It was hashed out by Artanis and rayn. Posts #67 and #69 of the thread. I was under the impression that the host decided the rules, not some random comment from rayn. Coagulation said the same thing I did. Are you trolling me now Kita?
You're so far gone that anything I say is going to be ignored or come out as scummy. Whatever.
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On November 15 2015 02:29 kitaman27 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 15 2015 02:09 Half the Sky wrote:On November 15 2015 02:01 kitaman27 wrote:On November 15 2015 01:35 Half the Sky wrote:On November 14 2015 23:25 kitaman27 wrote:
Riddle me this, if there were two spies on the second mission where did me and Rels coordinate how to avoid the double sabotage?
We chose to pass it, so there had to be some secret communication to avoid essentially loosing the game automatically, yet there was only one sabotage.
It's very rare for a scum team to upvote a double spy mission because of this reason. No coordination is needed. If I recall correctly, it was also discussed prior to the game that the spy at/closer to the top of the list would be the one to pull it off. It was hashed out by Artanis and rayn. Posts #67 and #69 of the thread. I was under the impression that the host decided the rules, not some random comment from rayn. Coagulation said the same thing I did. Are you trolling me now Kita? You're so far gone that anything I say is going to be ignored or come out as scummy. Whatever.
Pretty much my reaction to HTS in recent days  Although she's been surprisingly reasonable in the pages just now. Oh well. Looks like I'm still scum regardless, not a surprise.
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On November 15 2015 02:12 Half the Sky wrote:
Sidenote - Rels if I could hug you right now, I would. <3
I'm going out again. Will be in and out.
<3
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On November 15 2015 01:53 Half the Sky wrote:
Well it should be obvious to everyone else, but just in case, purposely leaving myself off, I would propose the following teams if I was leader.
Team of 4: Artanis/Vivax/sicklucker/Shockey (Shockey is switchable for Coag depending on how people feel)
Team of 5: Artanis/Vivax/sicklucker/Shockey/Coagulation
I strongly feel that rayn was town, but if people have had doubts on him respective of his voting record, I am confident in the other four.
I have nothing to hide.
Vivax is not here and this is the last time I'm here before getting insanely drunk so let's go with that. No SL though.
##Nominate Artanis/Vivax/HTS/Shockey
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kitaman27
United States9244 Posts
On November 15 2015 04:08 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On November 15 2015 01:53 Half the Sky wrote:
Well it should be obvious to everyone else, but just in case, purposely leaving myself off, I would propose the following teams if I was leader.
Team of 4: Artanis/Vivax/sicklucker/Shockey (Shockey is switchable for Coag depending on how people feel)
Team of 5: Artanis/Vivax/sicklucker/Shockey/Coagulation
I strongly feel that rayn was town, but if people have had doubts on him respective of his voting record, I am confident in the other four.
I have nothing to hide. Vivax is not here and this is the last time I'm here before getting insanely drunk so let's go with that. No SL though. ##Nominate Artanis/Vivax/HTS/Shockey
Hmm, so now you're saying me or rayn failed the second mission? o.O
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xat in those quotes oyu brought up hts is acualy calling me town something like oculums razor says sl is town. So like your mistaked i think
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On November 15 2015 04:08 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On November 15 2015 01:53 Half the Sky wrote:
Well it should be obvious to everyone else, but just in case, purposely leaving myself off, I would propose the following teams if I was leader.
Team of 4: Artanis/Vivax/sicklucker/Shockey (Shockey is switchable for Coag depending on how people feel)
Team of 5: Artanis/Vivax/sicklucker/Shockey/Coagulation
I strongly feel that rayn was town, but if people have had doubts on him respective of his voting record, I am confident in the other four.
I have nothing to hide. Vivax is not here and this is the last time I'm here before getting insanely drunk so let's go with that. No SL though. ##Nominate Artanis/Vivax/HTS/Shockey
hum this is terrible why not me? im still worried about worlds with hts and artanis especially and I didnt think I would have to make a decision so soon. Cant you just do me and we have 3 more days to decide? im going ot be on the mission 4/5 if this passes anyway so you may as well put me in now...
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On November 15 2015 01:52 Rels wrote:Yo folks. Sry I don't have time to play due to this fucking attack. My take on the vote: Show nested quote +On November 14 2015 09:11 Tictock wrote:
Day 3
ShoCkeyy's Nomination (Shockey, Vivax, Half the Sky, sicklucker)
Vote Result
Half the Sky - YES
Xatalos - NO
Artanis[Xp] - YES
Coagulation - NO
ShoCkeyy - YES
Rels - NO
sicklucker - YES
kitaman27 - NO
Vivax - NO
MISSION IS REJECTED
Day 3
Rels's Nomination Phase
Phase will end in at 23:00 GMT (+00:00) on 14 November 2015.
This was a bit rushed as I'm posting via mobile, will fix it up later. Not all votes were sent to me so if there was a mistake please PM myself or Fidei and we will get it fixed asap.
Apologies for the delay Vivax could have voted YES to a team containing himself. Hell, he said he would vote YES but didn't for some reason. I think that makes him confirmed town. Vivax, name a team and I'll probably nominate it when I come back tonight.I didn't read anything from today so this might be stupid but whatever. Anyway I'm with my family so see you later.
vivax can you just tell him to put up the same team? explain to him how vote logic makes it town like 99% of the time
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On November 15 2015 04:08 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On November 15 2015 01:53 Half the Sky wrote:
Well it should be obvious to everyone else, but just in case, purposely leaving myself off, I would propose the following teams if I was leader.
Team of 4: Artanis/Vivax/sicklucker/Shockey (Shockey is switchable for Coag depending on how people feel)
Team of 5: Artanis/Vivax/sicklucker/Shockey/Coagulation
I strongly feel that rayn was town, but if people have had doubts on him respective of his voting record, I am confident in the other four.
I have nothing to hide. Vivax is not here and this is the last time I'm here before getting insanely drunk so let's go with that. No SL though. ##Nominate Artanis/Vivax/HTS/Shockey
im pretty sure im vivax's strongest townread now and its very logical. Do you live in paris?
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kitaman27
United States9244 Posts
On November 15 2015 04:08 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On November 15 2015 01:53 Half the Sky wrote:
Well it should be obvious to everyone else, but just in case, purposely leaving myself off, I would propose the following teams if I was leader.
Team of 4: Artanis/Vivax/sicklucker/Shockey (Shockey is switchable for Coag depending on how people feel)
Team of 5: Artanis/Vivax/sicklucker/Shockey/Coagulation
I strongly feel that rayn was town, but if people have had doubts on him respective of his voting record, I am confident in the other four.
I have nothing to hide. Vivax is not here and this is the last time I'm here before getting insanely drunk so let's go with that. No SL though. ##Nominate Artanis/Vivax/HTS/Shockey
This goes so far against Rel's reads all game long that it seems like he wants a re-do on the previous team or something.
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That's a weird nomination >.> How did you come up with that lineup?
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You even said that there's 99% scum guaranteed between HTS/Artanis.....?
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