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sicklucker
Canada16987 Posts
On November 06 2015 15:05 sicklucker wrote: Im sure this mission passes but if rayn and xata are putting me up as the fall guy as thread sentiment seems they better be prepared for the massive amount of shit that will transpire sup scum you mad? you lost! | ||
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sicklucker
Canada16987 Posts
On November 14 2015 19:20 Vivax wrote: I went from wanting to vote yes to pretending I would vote yes. Pretending to vote yes to a team people are unsure on is a great way for townies to smoke out spies. Cause then spies feel safe to let a flawed team pass and all end up voting yes expecting to win after the flawed mission passes. ya well thats just as townie as having a pretty good excuse to hammer your mafia team the win and choosing not too. I get it your town can you stop yelling at me | ||
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Vivax
21989 Posts
On November 14 2015 19:42 sicklucker wrote: Your right vivax but yesterday I had 5 being scum reading me two town . you /art im glad your coming around. And coag is a pylon in this game we have to play round like I told you guys already. he shit fought me about that too while still doing nothing and downvoting this team Yea I'm not that sure on Coag myself. That's why I'm asking if 2 spies on a mission both become visible when sabotaging it. Cause I have the scenario in my head where rayn sends himself with teammate Xata, then blames it on you, then sends himself again along with 3 no voters and scumreads Shockey to have an excuse to send himself onto another mission (he who was a yes voter in every mission scum sabotaged) in order for it to fail. | ||
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sicklucker
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Vivax
21989 Posts
On November 14 2015 19:48 sicklucker wrote: like vivax if your mafia that mission would have passed. Thats the most important info we got I think and im happy to include you in futures missions. Im acualy more worried about hts being mafia because art voted yes there. But ill probably just ignore that paranoia Yep, can't wait for spies to push scum on me after I voted no to a mission I was on when my vote would have tipped the scales :> Didn't even think of that little side effect. Kudos to you. | ||
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sicklucker
Canada16987 Posts
pretty much for the same reasons as you. why is no one voting yes on this mission if hes scum? where are his partners? So we have a 100% confirmed town circle of 3. We need two towns to win. im pretty sure who the 3 scum are (most of us are concede already) so that means we need 2 of hts/art/coag to win the game. Shockey will never vote for coag... Coag might never vote for anyone and he may vote to lose so theres alot og reasons not to include him in are team. Hts I have pretty good reasons to townread here even tho I see a few worlds where there can be scum artanis has thrown some super sketchy votes and reads i need to look into him more | ||
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sicklucker
Canada16987 Posts
On November 14 2015 19:50 Vivax wrote: Yep, can't wait for spies to push scum on me after I voted no to a mission I was on when my vote would have tipped the scales :> Didn't even think of that little side effect. Kudos to you. If i was scum (and they will) say that you didnt expect art to vote yes there. But if your scum you dont know if coag votes yes there and you only need one unexpected person to vote yes. I think as scum you always vote yes there. me/hts/shockey were obviously voting yes | ||
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sicklucker
Canada16987 Posts
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sicklucker
Canada16987 Posts
GG guys I think im done posting other then voting Its auto. If we all stop talking mafia should concede its a solid strat imo | ||
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Artanis[Xp]
Netherlands12968 Posts
On November 14 2015 19:37 sicklucker wrote: So all this analyst confirms that the scum team is xata/rels/kits + an outside chance of vivax but this is less likely because he had a very good inthread excuse to vote. I think if hes mafia here he would have voted yes so acualy im pretty sure on vivax vivax can be town. Art is also likely town but his yes vote is worrisome since his last inthread posts were talking about how he cant vote yes because of me. But his most likely partner is hts. Hts is probably on my mission so including art is not the worst. Replacing coag with art is possible. That leaves me with coag. im not as sure as the rest of you that hes town but there are obvious meta reasons to think thats the case. While I originally wanted to include him im thinking I might not just because the last team seemed pure already based on votes. He was on both missions and there is weird worlds were he is scum with the no voters. one of ryan/art will have ot be included on mission 4/5 anyway so I dont think it matters much if we put one of the two on the missions. Acualy since we need 5 confirmed towns heres what I promise to do on my noms. I will try to nominate a team of 4 that does not include myself. This will confirm me (again) and the 4 people who I submitted. This will give us 5 confirmed towns and force the scum the concede earlier and make you morons less suspicious of me since im not submitting myself. But if I have doubts I will include myself Uh, why would I start doubting you harder and position myself to vote no if HtS is my scumbuddy, and why would HtS try to make you townread me instead of just going with the team that was on there and fail it herself? Makes no sense. Anyways, as I said, I'm yayvoting any team that doesn't include Xata/Rels/Kita. I'm sure Vivax isn't scum because he could've just yesvoted to win the game and I'm pretty sure he knows it. I'm sure HtS is town for reasons mentioned in this post plus everything I said before about how she doesn't seem to be playing towards a scum agenda at all. I'm pretty sure Shockeyy isn't scum (though he might actually be the one I'm worried about most if I'm wrong on any of them) because he doesn't have any kind of scum motivation and seems way too derpy for it. I'm quite sure SL isn't scum because he's going tryhard still when it's probably already in the bag for him if he's scum and suggesting a mission without himself on it too. That, and Kita/Rels/Xata all looking pretty awful helps. | ||
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Artanis[Xp]
Netherlands12968 Posts
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Xatalos
Finland9675 Posts
On November 14 2015 19:08 Vivax wrote: Since you claimed that 1 spy voted no for some odd reason when they win after sabotaging one more mission. By that logic, why would scum ever vote NO to a fail mission? But clearly they have (unless rayn/Coag is scum which I doubt). In any case, it's not like it's unthinkable to do that to confuse town into thinking exactly like you are / to minimize risks by not betting everything on passing a particular fail team. | ||
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Xatalos
Finland9675 Posts
On November 14 2015 19:15 Vivax wrote: But actually I have 1 dumb question, didn't see the answer in the OP. If two spies are on a mission, are there 2 sabotage attempts even outside mission 4 or always just 1? Addendum: This doesn't apply if rayn was mafia. Actually my tinfoil is starting to tingle, cause everyone on mission 2 voted no to a sabotaged mission except rayn himself, and I really didn't get why he was scumreading Shockey. But if he's spy it makes sense cause then he was able to replace a no-voter with himself as spy. See pre-game. Scum can choose to sabotage or not, so there should be only one sabotage regardless of how many scum were on a mission. | ||
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Xatalos
Finland9675 Posts
On November 14 2015 20:13 sicklucker wrote: also if we exlude coag all 5 of the remianing players I believe are willing to townread and vote each other so their is not much more to talk about. Thats the five guaranteed votes we need to win the game and have auto. GG guys I think im done posting other then voting Its auto. If we all stop talking mafia should concede its a solid strat imo lol | ||
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Xatalos
Finland9675 Posts
On November 14 2015 20:34 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Uh, why would I start doubting you harder and position myself to vote no if HtS is my scumbuddy, and why would HtS try to make you townread me instead of just going with the team that was on there and fail it herself? Makes no sense. Anyways, as I said, I'm yayvoting any team that doesn't include Xata/Rels/Kita. I'm sure Vivax isn't scum because he could've just yesvoted to win the game and I'm pretty sure he knows it. I'm sure HtS is town for reasons mentioned in this post plus everything I said before about how she doesn't seem to be playing towards a scum agenda at all. I'm pretty sure Shockeyy isn't scum (though he might actually be the one I'm worried about most if I'm wrong on any of them) because he doesn't have any kind of scum motivation and seems way too derpy for it. I'm quite sure SL isn't scum because he's going tryhard still when it's probably already in the bag for him if he's scum and suggesting a mission without himself on it too. That, and Kita/Rels/Xata all looking pretty awful helps. How am I very awful btw? rayn probably knows me the best around TL Mafia and said he was more sure about me being town in this game than about anything else. You also say that he's town so how does that lead to me being scum? | ||
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Xatalos
Finland9675 Posts
On November 14 2015 20:38 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Oh and I'm quite amused that Kita's PoE basically left him with having to scumread himself now that Vivax is basically confirmed town. I don't think that's how it works :D hahaha | ||
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Xatalos
Finland9675 Posts
On November 14 2015 19:47 Vivax wrote: Yea I'm not that sure on Coag myself. That's why I'm asking if 2 spies on a mission both become visible when sabotaging it. Cause I have the scenario in my head where rayn sends himself with teammate Xata, then blames it on you, then sends himself again along with 3 no voters and scumreads Shockey to have an excuse to send himself onto another mission (he who was a yes voter in every mission scum sabotaged) in order for it to fail. I really don't get how I became scum suddenly for that post. Like, I guess it makes a slight amount of sense if you also assume rayn/Coag is scum, because then it's indeed possible scum *could* have voted like you assume during this game. But if rayn/Coag is town, scum clearly haven't voted in any coordinated fashion (just look at the voting records). So either me+rayn/Coag are scum together (and I'd have sent rayn/Coag with me on the first mission.... really...?) or your argument for me being scum makes no sense. | ||
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Xatalos
Finland9675 Posts
On November 14 2015 19:19 sicklucker wrote: also vivax said in thread he was voting yes. so it was very clear there was going ot be 4 town votes. the surprising part was he didnt but ya. if kita/rels etc are scum with me they probably vote yes here. I have literally no partners that make sense in the game except maybe artanis. literraly none. I am confirmed town. ALso xata has literally given up on this game anyone with more then 1 game experience can see this. Haha :D In my most recent town game (Vanilla mafia) my activity dropped considerably as the game approached its end as well. Not really even sure why, somehow became demotivated. And by that logic, players like Coag/shockeyy in this game who mostly lurk would be 100% scum... So yeah.... | ||
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Vivax
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