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Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
November 14 2015 09:53 GMT
#2921
Dunno. Rels voted against the earlier fail team too, so maybe he likes to play it safe/WIFOM? Same looking at you/Kita's voting record, really. No matter who the scum there is, ultimately, the voting records don't make too much sense as scum. Except for rayn, I guess, but then the overall play / ragequit wouldn't fit well.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
November 14 2015 09:54 GMT
#2922
On the other hand, 2 scum voted YES (most likely), so..............
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
November 14 2015 09:56 GMT
#2923
To this fail team, I mean.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
November 14 2015 09:59 GMT
#2924
On November 14 2015 04:50 Half the Sky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 14 2015 04:21 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Because in the end then that should mean Xata is town, you're town, Rels is town, everyone could be town... Like you seriously think that by having some one that was in two failed missions could possible be more town? That's the complete wrong logic to think about it by. I don't care how good meta read he is, it's the worst thing to do is place him into another team when two with him already have failed. Don't give two shits if he's town or not. I rather just not have him on a team again...


You need to ask yourself why mafia are NOT trying to bury him (note: I'm not saying this makes you mafia) when he was on both failed missions.

I don't know if you are biased somewhat because of how rayn was treating/reading you earlier this game but if you ignore everything he has said and done towards you this game and focus on the way he was reading others, ask yourself if that come from a town or a mafia mindset.

(I realise Coag's inactivity isn't helping atm, but that is a separate issue.)


Tbf you did try but it didn't work out well
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
November 14 2015 10:02 GMT
#2925
After the first fail mission you brought suspicions on him, I mean, but gave up
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
November 14 2015 10:03 GMT
#2926
On November 14 2015 18:31 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 14 2015 13:00 Xatalos wrote:
So it's not over yet... SL is near certainly scum, so that would have been game over. Both SL/HTS upvoted too.

Sorry about AFK'ing all day today. Ended up playing games with my brother all day. Slightly demotivated about this game anyways after events with rayn/HTS so it wouldn't have been the most terrible result if we just lost today.

Still have to survive through three missions.... Not really confident on teams that would come from Rels or SL, so most likely voting NO on their missions.

Seems like there's time to decide the team after voting information from Rels/SL teams and such though, but I'll try to get some work done tomorrow. Recently HTS's posts have been on some sort of subconscious ignore list already, so I guess I'm done trying to even reason about them. Someone asked if I should evaluate her again since some have started townreading her, but I just can't accept her posts to rayn/me could have come from town. They're simply grasping at totally far-fetched reasons to justify suspicion. I guess I'll commend her activity. The motivation to play is there regardless of the motivations for doing things.

Anyways, it's 6am here atm :/ gn


You funny spy ;>

Noone who was in the failed second mission voted yes, so if SL is scum as you say, there's 1 spy who decided not to win the game by voting yes cause ... ??????


I mean.... For the first failed mission, they all voted NO too (except rayn). So.....??? And since when did you scumread me btw?
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
November 14 2015 10:05 GMT
#2927
That argument just doesn't make sense... Especially when nobody can foresee the exact vote results anyway.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22405 Posts
November 14 2015 10:08 GMT
#2928
On November 14 2015 19:03 Xatalos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 14 2015 18:31 Vivax wrote:
On November 14 2015 13:00 Xatalos wrote:
So it's not over yet... SL is near certainly scum, so that would have been game over. Both SL/HTS upvoted too.

Sorry about AFK'ing all day today. Ended up playing games with my brother all day. Slightly demotivated about this game anyways after events with rayn/HTS so it wouldn't have been the most terrible result if we just lost today.

Still have to survive through three missions.... Not really confident on teams that would come from Rels or SL, so most likely voting NO on their missions.

Seems like there's time to decide the team after voting information from Rels/SL teams and such though, but I'll try to get some work done tomorrow. Recently HTS's posts have been on some sort of subconscious ignore list already, so I guess I'm done trying to even reason about them. Someone asked if I should evaluate her again since some have started townreading her, but I just can't accept her posts to rayn/me could have come from town. They're simply grasping at totally far-fetched reasons to justify suspicion. I guess I'll commend her activity. The motivation to play is there regardless of the motivations for doing things.

Anyways, it's 6am here atm :/ gn


You funny spy ;>

Noone who was in the failed second mission voted yes, so if SL is scum as you say, there's 1 spy who decided not to win the game by voting yes cause ... ??????


I mean.... For the first failed mission, they all voted NO too (except rayn). So.....??? And since when did you scumread me btw?


Since you claimed that 1 spy voted no for some odd reason when they win after sabotaging one more mission.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22405 Posts
November 14 2015 10:15 GMT
#2929
But actually I have 1 dumb question, didn't see the answer in the OP.
If two spies are on a mission, are there 2 sabotage attempts even outside mission 4 or always just 1?

On November 14 2015 19:08 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 14 2015 19:03 Xatalos wrote:
On November 14 2015 18:31 Vivax wrote:
On November 14 2015 13:00 Xatalos wrote:
So it's not over yet... SL is near certainly scum, so that would have been game over. Both SL/HTS upvoted too.

Sorry about AFK'ing all day today. Ended up playing games with my brother all day. Slightly demotivated about this game anyways after events with rayn/HTS so it wouldn't have been the most terrible result if we just lost today.

Still have to survive through three missions.... Not really confident on teams that would come from Rels or SL, so most likely voting NO on their missions.

Seems like there's time to decide the team after voting information from Rels/SL teams and such though, but I'll try to get some work done tomorrow. Recently HTS's posts have been on some sort of subconscious ignore list already, so I guess I'm done trying to even reason about them. Someone asked if I should evaluate her again since some have started townreading her, but I just can't accept her posts to rayn/me could have come from town. They're simply grasping at totally far-fetched reasons to justify suspicion. I guess I'll commend her activity. The motivation to play is there regardless of the motivations for doing things.

Anyways, it's 6am here atm :/ gn


You funny spy ;>

Noone who was in the failed second mission voted yes, so if SL is scum as you say, there's 1 spy who decided not to win the game by voting yes cause ... ??????


I mean.... For the first failed mission, they all voted NO too (except rayn). So.....??? And since when did you scumread me btw?


Since you claimed that 1 spy voted no for some odd reason when they win after sabotaging one more mission.


Addendum: This doesn't apply if rayn was mafia.

Actually my tinfoil is starting to tingle, cause everyone on mission 2 voted no to a sabotaged mission except rayn himself, and I really didn't get why he was scumreading Shockey. But if he's spy it makes sense cause then he was able to replace a no-voter with himself as spy.
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
November 14 2015 10:15 GMT
#2930
On November 14 2015 17:59 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Looking at the votes I'm quite sure this team was clean. Going to afk through Rels' noms and probably yayvote whatever SL puts up.


you voting yes was... surprising... but the only team I can see you with is hts+1 who had who scum claim to vote there. or two people who would scum claim.

Also vivax why didnt you vote? I liked your logic for voting there since it was the same as mine. Infact I put that list of the next 4 cycles out since I knew you scum read them all too.

Now we have to wait 2 days for me to submit the same team lulz. I might not include vivax tho
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
November 14 2015 10:19 GMT
#2931
On November 14 2015 18:31 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 14 2015 13:00 Xatalos wrote:
So it's not over yet... SL is near certainly scum, so that would have been game over. Both SL/HTS upvoted too.

Sorry about AFK'ing all day today. Ended up playing games with my brother all day. Slightly demotivated about this game anyways after events with rayn/HTS so it wouldn't have been the most terrible result if we just lost today.

Still have to survive through three missions.... Not really confident on teams that would come from Rels or SL, so most likely voting NO on their missions.

Seems like there's time to decide the team after voting information from Rels/SL teams and such though, but I'll try to get some work done tomorrow. Recently HTS's posts have been on some sort of subconscious ignore list already, so I guess I'm done trying to even reason about them. Someone asked if I should evaluate her again since some have started townreading her, but I just can't accept her posts to rayn/me could have come from town. They're simply grasping at totally far-fetched reasons to justify suspicion. I guess I'll commend her activity. The motivation to play is there regardless of the motivations for doing things.

Anyways, it's 6am here atm :/ gn


You funny spy ;>

Noone who was in the failed second mission voted yes, so if SL is scum as you say, there's 1 spy who decided not to win the game by voting yes cause ... ??????


also vivax said in thread he was voting yes. so it was very clear there was going ot be 4 town votes. the surprising part was he didnt but ya. if kita/rels etc are scum with me they probably vote yes here.

I have literally no partners that make sense in the game except maybe artanis. literraly none. I am confirmed town. ALso xata has literally given up on this game anyone with more then 1 game experience can see this.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22405 Posts
November 14 2015 10:20 GMT
#2932
On November 14 2015 19:15 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 14 2015 17:59 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Looking at the votes I'm quite sure this team was clean. Going to afk through Rels' noms and probably yayvote whatever SL puts up.


you voting yes was... surprising... but the only team I can see you with is hts+1 who had who scum claim to vote there. or two people who would scum claim.

Also vivax why didnt you vote? I liked your logic for voting there since it was the same as mine. Infact I put that list of the next 4 cycles out since I knew you scum read them all too.

Now we have to wait 2 days for me to submit the same team lulz. I might not include vivax tho


I went from wanting to vote yes to pretending I would vote yes.

Pretending to vote yes to a team people are unsure on is a great way for townies to smoke out spies.
Cause then spies feel safe to let a flawed team pass and all end up voting yes expecting to win after the flawed mission passes.
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
November 14 2015 10:25 GMT
#2933
Like if im scum my team has to be hts/artanis/sicklucker based on votes in this game nothing else makes sense.

vivax/rels/kita/ryan have all voted no TWICE to teams I was on TWICE

they can mathematically not be my partners. Shockey voted on once.

Hts/artanis voted yes twice so they acualy make sense as my partners but.

Read the fucking game do we look like partners? Hts has made like 20 posts to me trying to convince me that artanis is town. Like why would she do this if we are a team of three? Seems like a huge waste of time.
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
November 14 2015 10:26 GMT
#2934
oh ya and hts/artanis cant be scum together unless its with coag. so that team does not even make sense either. im just confirmed town and you guys are so bad for not seeing it
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
November 14 2015 10:28 GMT
#2935
vivax/rels/kita/ryan DOWN VOTED MY TEAMS TWICE TWICE.

Due to not being on any mission that failed hts/art can only be scum with ryan who was on both failed missions

This confirms me town unless you think shockey is mafia because mathamaticly the only scum teams i can be on is

hts/shockey/sicklucker
art/shockey/sicklucker

and everyones ok to vote any team with shockey on it so why not vote yes to me too?
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22405 Posts
November 14 2015 10:28 GMT
#2936
On November 14 2015 19:26 sicklucker wrote:
oh ya and hts/artanis cant be scum together unless its with coag. so that team does not even make sense either. im just confirmed town and you guys are so bad for not seeing it


Who is bad and not seeing it?
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22405 Posts
November 14 2015 10:30 GMT
#2937
Literally the only people you can be referring to are kita/coag/Rels/Xata and they are all likely to be spies at this point.

I already said:

On November 14 2015 18:29 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 14 2015 17:59 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Looking at the votes I'm quite sure this team was clean. Going to afk through Rels' noms and probably yayvote whatever SL puts up.


I agree, I'd vote yes to the same combination that got rejected now.


So I don't get why you're throwing this tantrum
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
November 14 2015 10:37 GMT
#2938
So all this analyst confirms that the scum team is xata/rels/kits + an outside chance of vivax but this is less likely because he had a very good inthread excuse to vote. I think if hes mafia here he would have voted yes so acualy im pretty sure on vivax vivax can be town.

Art is also likely town but his yes vote is worrisome since his last inthread posts were talking about how he cant vote yes because of me. But his most likely partner is hts. Hts is probably on my mission so including art is not the worst. Replacing coag with art is possible.

That leaves me with coag. im not as sure as the rest of you that hes town but there are obvious meta reasons to think thats the case. While I originally wanted to include him im thinking I might not just because the last team seemed pure already based on votes. He was on both missions and there is weird worlds were he is scum with the no voters.

one of ryan/art will have ot be included on mission 4/5 anyway so I dont think it matters much if we put one of the two on the missions.

Acualy since we need 5 confirmed towns heres what I promise to do on my noms. I will try to nominate a team of 4 that does not include myself. This will confirm me (again) and the 4 people who I submitted.

This will give us 5 confirmed towns and force the scum the concede earlier and make you morons less suspicious of me since im not submitting myself. But if I have doubts I will include myself
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
November 14 2015 10:40 GMT
#2939
On November 14 2015 19:28 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 14 2015 19:26 sicklucker wrote:
oh ya and hts/artanis cant be scum together unless its with coag. so that team does not even make sense either. im just confirmed town and you guys are so bad for not seeing it


Who is bad and not seeing it?


vivax? I sapose the rest are scum now. The scum tried but I won. I told those fuckers day 1 when i was nominated before the vote im not the fucking easy scapegoat
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
November 14 2015 10:42 GMT
#2940
Your right vivax but yesterday I had 5 being scum reading me two town . you /art im glad your coming around.

And coag is a pylon in this game we have to play round like I told you guys already. he shit fought me about that too while still doing nothing and downvoting this team
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