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On November 13 2015 06:34 Artanis[Xp] wrote:Show nested quote +On November 12 2015 21:13 sicklucker wrote:
Also you saying that the vote was "obviuosly going to be a majority" rubs me the wrong way. when I checked out of the thread I acualy thought it was never passing. (and this is a huge reason why im mad at you) I also felt like it was a team you would have issues with. Did you really town read all of these guys enough to vote yes? really? How does this match up with Show nested quote +On November 12 2015 19:46 sicklucker wrote:
Im pretty sure of the others and your crafty and kind of low key this game. Infact I was super suspicious of you untill you no voted thats probably the only reason im including you and you could be smart enough to vote for cred there since it was a landslide vote ? Either it appeared to be a landslide and my no vote doesn't mean anything in which case your initial reason to townread me again wasn't actually anything you believed in, or it didn't actually appear to become a landslide and it does have meaning. You can't have it both ways. Also, Rels attempting to bury me is fairly expected. I'm amazed at how quickly you changed your mind again believing someone you scumread pretty strongly. What happened? Show nested quote +On November 12 2015 22:20 sicklucker wrote:
Just dont follow hts suggestions and add art. hes not in your town read list and im pretty sure hes fucking scum based on day 1 vote logic and reads So I'm scum for my Day 1 vote despite the fact that HtS did the exact same? I also had an actually good reason for it in that if it passed I could just send the same mission + myself and win the game if you're all town. HtS didn't quite have that reason, yet for some reason it makes me scum yet doesn't make her scum. Yeah, don't think I want SL on any mission right now.
stfu dude those were not related your so desperate. point one you made is what i expected. Point two was what really happened and me dealing with it
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On November 13 2015 06:34 Artanis[Xp] wrote:Show nested quote +On November 12 2015 21:13 sicklucker wrote:
Also you saying that the vote was "obviuosly going to be a majority" rubs me the wrong way. when I checked out of the thread I acualy thought it was never passing. (and this is a huge reason why im mad at you) I also felt like it was a team you would have issues with. Did you really town read all of these guys enough to vote yes? really? How does this match up with Show nested quote +On November 12 2015 19:46 sicklucker wrote:
Im pretty sure of the others and your crafty and kind of low key this game. Infact I was super suspicious of you untill you no voted thats probably the only reason im including you and you could be smart enough to vote for cred there since it was a landslide vote ? Either it appeared to be a landslide and my no vote doesn't mean anything in which case your initial reason to townread me again wasn't actually anything you believed in, or it didn't actually appear to become a landslide and it does have meaning. You can't have it both ways. Also, Rels attempting to bury me is fairly expected. I'm amazed at how quickly you changed your mind again believing someone you scumread pretty strongly. What happened? Show nested quote +On November 12 2015 22:20 sicklucker wrote:
Just dont follow hts suggestions and add art. hes not in your town read list and im pretty sure hes fucking scum based on day 1 vote logic and reads So I'm scum for my Day 1 vote despite the fact that HtS did the exact same?I also had an actually good reason for it in that if it passed I could just send the same mission + myself and win the game if you're all town. HtS didn't quite have that reason, yet for some reason it makes me scum yet doesn't make her scum. Yeah, don't think I want SL on any mission right now.
hts is bleeding town your not
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"Im pretty sure of the others and your crafty and kind of low key this game. Infact I was super suspicious of you untill you no voted thats probably the only reason im including you and you could be smart enough to vote for cred there since it was a landslide vote"
I said many time in thread art I left the thread after the noms were released voted no thinking their is no way this will pass. Then I came back saw 7 votes and you were not one of them.
Like your trying to twist my words (poorly) to make me look scummy to suit your agenda I hope everyone notices what I do
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Are you able to nominate a team without yourself in it SL?
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On November 13 2015 07:17 Artanis[Xp] wrote:Show nested quote +On November 13 2015 07:15 Vivax wrote:
There's one thing I wanna know though: Why is Artanis not trusting me? I thought his early townread wasn't bad if genuine (he worded it kinda sloppy tho). I am kind of trusting you, but it requires Xata to be scum and with how scummy SL just looked I'm actually not sure on that one anymore.
how did I look even remotely scummy other then not including you in the cool kids club?
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i did nothing DIfferent other then that
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On November 13 2015 07:20 Half the Sky wrote:Show nested quote +On November 13 2015 07:18 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Anyway, gone for the rest of the night. Good night Lex <3 I know I'm right on sicklucker and Xatalos. I just wish we were both a little more articulate about it (although it's better for sicklucker at this point to be so). I tried explaining it once. Ugh.
No I tried my heart out I went over the thread on and off for like 6 hours today. I did my part im done and voting yes on this because its apparently the best were gonna get
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On November 13 2015 07:23 Half the Sky wrote:
sicklucker - #2686 is a VERY good post by Artanis. I suggest you read it when you wake up.
thats not even the first time he posted that shit
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Anyway since hts thinks I somewhat have to justify myself being an obviuos town its my filter. If you ever want to tell the different between me town game and my mafia game just look at my filter. I have never had this big of a filter as mafia in like my 12 mafia games on tl...
Im sure some nerd can dig up this stat submitting my vote now hopefully next time I enter the thread its not the post game thread where I will berate you all ;p
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kitaman27
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On November 13 2015 07:39 Vivax wrote:
Kita we need to talk, can you give me a summary entirely without quoting anything about why you think Rels is town?
He appears to be reading the thread, he is speaking logically, he is looking for contradictions and pushing them in the thread when he is ignored. Most of the stuff he has been saying makes sense. He has the opportunity to jump on shockeyy as the low hanging fruit, but chooses not to. In resistance, mafia are essentially forced to choose their scum reads based on process of elimination. Not going after someone like shockeyy when everyone else scum reads him seems townie.
He has the opportunity to align himself against Xata, but posts the filter length analysis that makes Xata look pretty decent. If I remember correctly, this was posted prior to the mission one failure meaning that he was making a player who is up for consideration look decent, while lessening his own chance of inclusion. This doesn't apply if it is Xata + Rels as the spy, but I thought the other stuff outweighed the exception.
He attacks rayn at several spots where rayn is widely seen as town, costing himself town cred. The safer option would be to sheep him there. His reads are frequently changing. He starts the game scum reading myself, rayn, and super. He then shifts to town reading us, while scum reading other players. He goes back and forth on certain players, which I feel is townie.
I haven't had the opportunity to look at the games HTS linked me yet. I will when I have more time.
Could I be wrong about Rels? Yeah, but that could apply to anyone. Right now I think he's town.
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kitaman27
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On November 13 2015 08:47 sicklucker wrote:
Anyway since hts thinks I somewhat have to justify myself being an obviuos town its my filter. If you ever want to tell the different between me town game and my mafia game just look at my filter. I have never had this big of a filter as mafia in like my 12 mafia games on tl...
22 pages as scum in Battle of the Drams
24 pages as scum in TL Mafia LXX: Guardians of the Galaxy
19 pages as scum in Void
meh filter length is null here
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On November 13 2015 08:02 NocturneMage wrote:
Shockey's Nomination Phase - End
ShoCkeyy has nominated the following team for Mission 3:
(1) Shockey
(2) Vivax
(3) Half the Sky
(4) sicklucker
Please PM your votes to Fidei86 and Tictock.
You may switch your vote as often as you like, until the deadline.
Deadline is in at 23:00 GMT (+00:00), 13 November.
What was the team you wanted to make shockeyy...? At least I very much doubt there isn't scum in this team, with it including both SL/HTS....
The scumteam is probably SL/HTS/Rels at this point. SL even just for the first failed mission, HTS for just making really crappy reasons to scumread people (as noted by basically everyone who read her posts so far) and Rels for voting YES last team when he still scumread people on it....
I think shockeyy and kita just have to be town by PoE.
So I think that's about it... Unfortunately Rels is next, but perhaps kita could be able to put up a decent team.
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This is a much smaller game then any of those. Ive had many 30+ town filters
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And im pretty sure void was like 300+ pages off the top of my head I know alot of you were in it
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But theres a few pages in this thread where I have like 20 straight posts? come on thats so my town tell
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On November 13 2015 09:03 kitaman27 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 13 2015 07:39 Vivax wrote:
Kita we need to talk, can you give me a summary entirely without quoting anything about why you think Rels is town? He appears to be reading the thread, he is speaking logically, he is looking for contradictions and pushing them in the thread when he is ignored. Most of the stuff he has been saying makes sense. He has the opportunity to jump on shockeyy as the low hanging fruit, but chooses not to. In resistance, mafia are essentially forced to choose their scum reads based on process of elimination. Not going after someone like shockeyy when everyone else scum reads him seems townie. He has the opportunity to align himself against Xata, but posts the filter length analysis that makes Xata look pretty decent. If I remember correctly, this was posted prior to the mission one failure meaning that he was making a player who is up for consideration look decent, while lessening his own chance of inclusion. This doesn't apply if it is Xata + Rels as the spy, but I thought the other stuff outweighed the exception. He attacks rayn at several spots where rayn is widely seen as town, costing himself town cred. The safer option would be to sheep him there. His reads are frequently changing. He starts the game scum reading myself, rayn, and super. He then shifts to town reading us, while scum reading other players. He goes back and forth on certain players, which I feel is townie. I haven't had the opportunity to look at the games HTS linked me yet. I will when I have more time. Could I be wrong about Rels? Yeah, but that could apply to anyone. Right now I think he's town.
Hm, what about his last vote?
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kitaman27
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On November 13 2015 07:52 Vivax wrote:
you lack one thing so far even after team 2 failed and it's you pushing your favourite team like a lot of people are doing.
You are good at talking about things and around things but I don't really see you pushing anything concrete as your own preference when you should actually know that you can be more influent than what you are pulling off with all these summaries, setup talk, iterations and occasional questions about people you mildly townread (Rels).
That's not true though.
I posted that shockeyy should not include you in his nomination. I questioned shockeyy's logic for Artanis's inclusion because his voting record isn't any better than me or Rels and that was the reasoning he was providing. I posted a read on Rels with several examples of things that I felt looked townie. I shot down the faulty logic being used on HTS from Rels. I suggested Rels or myself as alternatives to you for nominations. There are plenty instances that show that I have a preference for the nominations.
Kita/Rels/HTS/Rayn is my preferred team. I'm not going to convince shockeyy to exclude himself, which is why I went with myself/Rels in place of Vivax. It would obviously be a challenge to get this to passed, but "compromising" isn't really the priority right now. We have five days to pass a team so my focus is getting the team I think has the best chance of passing. I'm still not sure about the scum trio, but right now I'd say something like
Vivax + Artanis + (SL/Xat)
If I were to consider a compromise, it might be the inclusion of shockeyy, but I'm not sure enough that he is town in place of artanis. We have 4 more days so it's not like I have to accept the first team nominated yet.
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kitaman27
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On November 13 2015 09:08 Xatalos wrote:Show nested quote +On November 13 2015 08:02 NocturneMage wrote:
Shockey's Nomination Phase - End
ShoCkeyy has nominated the following team for Mission 3:
(1) Shockey
(2) Vivax
(3) Half the Sky
(4) sicklucker
Please PM your votes to Fidei86 and Tictock.
You may switch your vote as often as you like, until the deadline.
Deadline is in at 23:00 GMT (+00:00), 13 November. What was the team you wanted to make shockeyy...? At least I very much doubt there isn't scum in this team, with it including both SL/HTS.... The scumteam is probably SL/HTS/Rels at this point. SL even just for the first failed mission, HTS for just making really crappy reasons to scumread people (as noted by basically everyone who read her posts so far) and Rels for voting YES last team when he still scumread people on it.... I think shockeyy and kita just have to be town by PoE. So I think that's about it... Unfortunately Rels is next, but perhaps kita could be able to put up a decent team.
HTS + Rels? Could you elaborate?
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kitaman27
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On November 13 2015 09:11 Xatalos wrote:Show nested quote +On November 13 2015 09:03 kitaman27 wrote:On November 13 2015 07:39 Vivax wrote:
Kita we need to talk, can you give me a summary entirely without quoting anything about why you think Rels is town? He appears to be reading the thread, he is speaking logically, he is looking for contradictions and pushing them in the thread when he is ignored. Most of the stuff he has been saying makes sense. He has the opportunity to jump on shockeyy as the low hanging fruit, but chooses not to. In resistance, mafia are essentially forced to choose their scum reads based on process of elimination. Not going after someone like shockeyy when everyone else scum reads him seems townie. He has the opportunity to align himself against Xata, but posts the filter length analysis that makes Xata look pretty decent. If I remember correctly, this was posted prior to the mission one failure meaning that he was making a player who is up for consideration look decent, while lessening his own chance of inclusion. This doesn't apply if it is Xata + Rels as the spy, but I thought the other stuff outweighed the exception. He attacks rayn at several spots where rayn is widely seen as town, costing himself town cred. The safer option would be to sheep him there. His reads are frequently changing. He starts the game scum reading myself, rayn, and super. He then shifts to town reading us, while scum reading other players. He goes back and forth on certain players, which I feel is townie. I haven't had the opportunity to look at the games HTS linked me yet. I will when I have more time. Could I be wrong about Rels? Yeah, but that could apply to anyone. Right now I think he's town. Hm, what about his last vote?
Hmm?
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kitaman27
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Football time. Probably won't be back for 14 hours or so till morning.
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