EPT[T][M] Resistance V - Section 31 - Page 136
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Half the Sky
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Half the Sky
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Vivax
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That's basically his first response to him: Though I do wonder to myself why a spy Rels would attack me for such a ticky tack point. I'd expect a spy to push something along the lines of "kita isn't contributing what I would expect from his town play", rather than trying to paint me in a bad light from the start. Notice the lack of omgus. If you keep reading you will note that kita talks a lot indirectly about him in his conversations with rayn, Shockey, and Artanis. It's the feeling that kita tries to be invisible while posting, asking a ton of questions without posting much own opinion (setup talk doesn't count). I hope you see what I mean when you read around that time. | ||
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Vivax
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On November 13 2015 07:19 Half the Sky wrote: Kita Vivax has said he's not have had the time to play this game. He is probably going to have bad and/or suboptimal reads regardless of alignment. Why are you suggesting (if you are?) this could be mafia motivated? I don't think my reads are bad (I'll never know until it ends tho), I only regret that I was too optimistic on rayn already being right. I'd have done more research on kita if I had the time :/, since just voting no wouldn't have been enough. | ||
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kitaman27
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On November 13 2015 07:19 Half the Sky wrote: Kita Vivax has said he's not have had the time to play this game. He is probably going to have bad and/or suboptimal reads regardless of alignment. Why are you suggesting (if you are?) this could be mafia motivated? On November 13 2015 03:31 Vivax wrote: I need more time for this game :> , but my SL read will probably stay as it is, so will the kita read. He has already stated that more time probably won't change his reads. Vivax decided that he needed to push me as his spy read from the moment he entered the game. In his first post, he states that I should be excluded because of "paranoia". He says he is not sure about me, but if the mission failed, he would take a closer look at me. The mission did fail and he states that his read on me will stay as is. Well considering his initial read was "I don't know", his read becoming mafia is not "staying as it is". There are two possibilities here: 1) He did indeed read my filter leading to my conclusion that I'm mafia 2) He did not read my filter, yet I go from a "I don't know" read to his scum read anyways Considering he is clearly not familiar with my interaction with SL, then option one wouldn't be true. That's why I think it is option two. He doesn't take a real look at my filter, yet decides that I'm mafia. He brings up a list of generic talking points like "lack of interest", "setup talk", "hes good at scum", "your posts are spammy not helpful", but never bothers to confirm that what he is suggesting actually makes sense. If Vivax concludes that the mafia team is kita + SL and states that his opinion is unlikely to change, don't you think that a town Vivax would actually read my filter first? | ||
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Vivax
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Vivax
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1) He did indeed read my filter leading to my conclusion that I'm mafia 2) He did not read my filter, yet I go from a "I don't know" read to his scum read anyways No I didn't read your entire filter but it was enough to see how you started the game off. I can sum up that you initially dodged the Xata/my slot fight and quickly switched to setup talk, then gave a sketchy read on Rels and proceeded to not talk about him but asking people about him without really posting conclusions for yourself. Later on you just kept pushing my slot which is the most unproductive thing I have witnessed in the game and I know that for 100 % cause I know my slot. That already cost you my trust points. Then you went to comment on mission 2 including all of me/SL/Xata among possible mafia (in your summary of everyone's reads), with emphasis on SL. But you also said "Xata if SL is town" (which you will never know, and then included me in the remaining pool of suspects outside these two (why outside??) Now you're pushing the notion that I'm mafia. I'm reasonably confident this isn't your town game. Are you okay with shockey's team having SL on it? | ||
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kitaman27
United States9245 Posts
On November 13 2015 07:39 Vivax wrote: Kita we need to talk, can you give me a summary entirely without quoting anything about why you think Rels is town? Okey dokey. I'm about to leave work (I've already stayed an hour late as it is). I won't have much free time this evening, but I'll do my best to get a post in. | ||
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Vivax
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I'm at like page 6 and overall I see you posting a lot of scenarios, or summarize other people's scumreads but you lack one thing so far even after team 2 failed and it's you pushing your favourite team like a lot of people are doing. You are good at talking about things and around things but I don't really see you pushing anything concrete as your own preference when you should actually know that you can be more influent than what you are pulling off with all these summaries, setup talk, iterations and occasional questions about people you mildly townread (Rels). | ||
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kitaman27
United States9245 Posts
On November 13 2015 07:47 kitaman27 wrote: Okey dokey. I'm about to leave work (I've already stayed an hour late as it is). I won't have much free time this evening, but I'll do my best to get a post in. Read my filter in the meantime if you can. It will take 15 minutes max I bet. You're bringing up stuff that happened an hour into the game several times, while ignoring the remaining 250 hours. It's tough to discuss things if you are completely in the dark. | ||
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Vivax
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NocturneMage
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NocturneMage
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ShoCkeyy has nominated the following team for Mission 3: (1) Shockey (2) Vivax (3) Half the Sky (4) sicklucker Please PM your votes to Fidei86 and Tictock. You may switch your vote as often as you like, until the deadline. Deadline is in at 23:00 GMT (+00:00), 13 November. | ||
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Vivax
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Mention a team of people you would accept being sent, cause there's little point in me just calling you mafia if what we're discussing isn't a team with you on it. | ||
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Vivax
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Which is what you have been doing contrary to other people who actually propose teams of townreads, not scumreads. | ||
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ShoCkeyy
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Vivax
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On November 13 2015 08:09 ShoCkeyy wrote: Oh man, I just realized I didn't even nominate the team I wanted..... Work got the best of me Which 1 did you intend to send? | ||
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sicklucker
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sicklucker
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On November 13 2015 02:55 Rels wrote: So what scummy townie am I attacking this game ? Who are my danden ion / bm / coolTLname (lol my phone has this name registered cause I typed it so much) / JRoc ? me? | ||
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sicklucker
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On November 13 2015 03:31 Vivax wrote: You don't just walk into TL and townread kita. Especially when he pushes my slot who will start expelling massive townie bricks when I have more time for this game. I just went a bit over Xatalos last pages and I like where his head is, actually. I need more time for this game :> , but my SL read will probably stay as it is, so will the kita read. The last mafia is tricky but I'm leaning towards HTS. you cant possibly think me and kita are on a team... | ||
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