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Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12970 Posts
November 11 2015 23:02 GMT
#2381
On November 12 2015 07:20 Half the Sky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 12 2015 06:44 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
So anyway, the fact that rels is already trying to throw shit on me before the mission failed makes me pretty sure he's scum. Looking at potential partners, I actually don't think shockeyy's scum. Two reasons:
A) he really hasn't been playing to any kind of wincon and in the end I have to admit it probably means he's town.
B) I don't think mafia rels would be the first to risk townreading shockeyy whom looked really bad.

As for HtS, I actually think she might be town. The way she keeps on trucking and focuses on solving the game even in the face of being nearly universally townread makes me eerie.

Which means there must be a scum in kita/vivax too since scum xata would never nominate scum sl with him and rayn is never scum this game. Gonna have to focus on that later.


So it looks like we are on nearly the same page, although you think I must be universally scumread, not townread lol.

What do you think about the interactions between Kita/(then) Superbia/and Xatalos day 1?

Points against and/or of discussion on Superbia
- lurky mafia meta
- a bit of a stretch read against Xatalos
- no input on any of the nominations day 1

Thoughts?


Too tired to think about right now. Will check later.

At the moment I'd suggest an Artanis/Coag/Shockeyy/HtS team pending further research.
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
November 11 2015 23:07 GMT
#2382
Shockey, please trust me on this:

Pick any four of:

rayn/HTS/SL/you/Artanis

rayn is town, please trust me on this one, if you cannot, then go with you, me, SL, Artanis.

Absolutely positively avoid Xatalos or Rels.

I am still up in the air with Vivax/Kita. Avoid them not because both of them are scum but I am still looking at both.

Artanis is also examining both atm as well.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
November 11 2015 23:08 GMT
#2383
On November 12 2015 08:07 Half the Sky wrote:
Shockey, please trust me on this:

Pick any four of:

rayn/HTS/SL/you/Artanis

rayn is town, please trust me on this one, if you cannot, then go with you, me, SL, Artanis.

Absolutely positively avoid Xatalos or Rels.

I am still up in the air with Vivax/Kita. Avoid them not because both of them are scum but I am still looking at both.

Artanis is also examining both atm as well.


EBWOP for replacement:

Pick any four of:

Coagulation/HTS/SL/you/Artanis

Coagulation (rayn's old slot) is town, please trust me on this one, if you cannot, then go with you, me, SL, Artanis.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
November 11 2015 23:13 GMT
#2384
I'm out. Good night lovelies.

See you tomorrow....in NYC. (God help me.)
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
November 11 2015 23:17 GMT
#2385
On November 11 2015 22:44 Half the Sky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 11 2015 09:57 sicklucker wrote:
Like rels and shockey .HOW DO YOU VOTE YES HERE? Not only do you get to pick next, but I had already promised to put you on the garanteed team fi your teams you submitted did not pass.

IT MAKES NO SENSE

maybe you guys are just the mafia afterall


sicklucker -

tbf you wanted to put rels on your team, now you absolutely know you cannot. Like I said there is some information gained from this.

rayn even queried some suspicion on Rels JUST before this vote on this team passed that I think might warrant paying some attention.

I am reading and re-reading. Pay attention to that and Artanis' follow on Rels.

I am at Xatalos/Rels/TBD

Final mafia is between Kitaman/Vivax. It is not Shockey based on previous votes, and it's not you (especially with this vote). And I cannot see it being Artanis at all at this point particularly with this vote.

Now between Kita and Vivax, I had associative reasons that it's probably not Vivax's slot based on Xata's early game play but Superbia's lurkiness, even if NAI in the end, which you pushed SL, gave you some pause, so it might be worth it to at least re-eval his posts before he went completely afk.

I'm going to find the third mafia and then work backwards in constructing the cases. Right now, a team I know that will pass a mission based on everything I've looked through:

rayn/sicklucker/Artanis/Shockey

So if I absolutely cannot decide between Kita and Vivax (if Kita is mafia, then it's the point where I have to pretty much save Kita's filter somewhere and then try and solve the game on my flight tomorrow, which is about 8h) then we can start constructing the teams leaving both players out.

Since the entire game is scumreading me, I am purposely leaving myself off. but only because I know my own alignment, I'd swap myself for the individual I've least sure on (at this point Shockey) but I am sure the above four are clean.

rayn/sicklucker/Artanis/myself, I would be 100% confident the team would pass a 4-person mission.

This is where my head is.


i would def put artanis now
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
November 11 2015 23:18 GMT
#2386
acualy your team is completely fine. which makes me suspect that your trying to finish the game like that ;p but im cool with it
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
November 11 2015 23:18 GMT
#2387
so did rayn get mod killed? he should have been
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
November 11 2015 23:20 GMT
#2388
On November 11 2015 21:48 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Btw, if this mission fails there's at most 1 scum between me/hts/shockeyy unless you think rayn id scum.
I look forward to the read evaluations.


explain this?
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12970 Posts
November 11 2015 23:22 GMT
#2389
On November 12 2015 08:20 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 11 2015 21:48 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Btw, if this mission fails there's at most 1 scum between me/hts/shockeyy unless you think rayn id scum.
I look forward to the read evaluations.


explain this?

None of these three have been on a mission yet and two have failed so only if Rayn is scum can two of that group be scum since he was the only one on two missions.
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
November 11 2015 23:22 GMT
#2390
vivax should explain why he voted yes
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
November 11 2015 23:23 GMT
#2391
On November 12 2015 08:22 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 12 2015 08:20 sicklucker wrote:
On November 11 2015 21:48 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Btw, if this mission fails there's at most 1 scum between me/hts/shockeyy unless you think rayn id scum.
I look forward to the read evaluations.


explain this?

None of these three have been on a mission yet and two have failed so only if Rayn is scum can two of that group be scum since he was the only one on two missions.


i see that worrys me. two scum can be on a mission tho. Probably mission 2
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
November 11 2015 23:24 GMT
#2392
On November 12 2015 02:37 Rels wrote:
So the team is either:
Arta / rayn / XXX (not HTS, they're never scums together)
or Arta / Xata / Vivax (or Kita)
I think it makes HTS town actually whatever the case is actually ... at least if the team fails.


you cant possibly think the only one to vote no is scum
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
November 11 2015 23:28 GMT
#2393
anyway this is good. xata is always mafia now so I can do assosation and not be paranoid of that other world because I have never seen rayn so off the hedges.
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
November 11 2015 23:29 GMT
#2394
now the most immediate qeustion is can we even vote on a team that includes shockey? my noms coming up and knowing shockey he wont put up a reasonable team anyway.
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
November 11 2015 23:30 GMT
#2395
were def not trusting rels
Coagulation
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States9633 Posts
November 11 2015 23:36 GMT
#2396
so what did rayn get modkilled for?
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
November 11 2015 23:37 GMT
#2397
idk by poe shockeys probably good.
shockey submit me/art/yourself if its 3 submit hts if its 4 and I would vote yes
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
November 11 2015 23:39 GMT
#2398
On November 12 2015 08:36 Coagulation wrote:
so what did rayn get modkilled for?


[image loading]

oh ya and theres rayn too im prety sure we have an auto town circle now. I know shockeys not gonna submit rayn tho
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
November 11 2015 23:39 GMT
#2399
On November 12 2015 07:17 Half the Sky wrote:
Xatalos/Rels/Vivax everyone

If I'm wrong on Vivax, then it's Kita.

99.9% sure on Xatalos
99.9% sure on Rels
At least 75% sure on Vivax

#youhearditherefirst
#postgamecred
#itsnotover
#nevergiveup


its kita but w/e we can just exclude them both
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
November 11 2015 23:44 GMT
#2400
I would put hts as the last of the 5 tho just because shes too good :D. She literally took my thoughts from my brain and put them on paper. So that makes me paranoid but I trust me town read on her. But at the same time mafia should be trying the hardest at this point of the game
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