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Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
November 09 2015 17:53 GMT
#2121
If Vivax is town, he nearly cracked Gaiden before he got nightkilled, he just might be the man for the job here

sicklucker, I don't think either of rayn or Kita are spies here. I really don't think.

Kita could you please answer why you think SL's erratic posting is alignment indicative? I asked a question of you sometime back....ehh let me find it.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
November 09 2015 17:54 GMT
#2122
All rayns doing is crying and making a joke with the first team he submitted because he knows his team wont pass. I think he can do this as either alignment so im moving on. I have never seen him this inactive as town tho...
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
November 09 2015 18:01 GMT
#2123
On November 10 2015 02:52 sicklucker wrote:
im asking myself if rayn would be a cry baby if the game was not going the way scum would want? Yes hes done this the one time we were scum together and he got replaced out day1 and banned


Yeh you are talking about TL LXX, and I was just going to ask you about that game. But you look at Drams, you look at Titanic....

I think rayn's last decent scum game was Debauchery and I know he blamed the loss partially on the scummates that went down before him, he was caught out late game. I'm saying this from memory so you should verify.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22269 Posts
November 09 2015 18:02 GMT
#2124
Hi everyone! Will try to be operative enough for this game in 1-3 hours, I want to catch up properly or I might end up posting crap.
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
November 09 2015 18:02 GMT
#2125
On November 10 2015 02:31 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2015 23:35 Half the Sky wrote:
If people don't want to reconsider Shockey, we could try

Kita/sicklucker/Rels/Rayn

For sure, three of the players should be Kita/Rels/Rayn, but the 4th we are going to have a hard time coming to a consensus. Ugh.

Will be back.


its not like you have any say in the matter. Just keep being town and stop suggesting bad teams with kita on it


Oh I know, but it can't hurt to let people know what's on my mind.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
November 09 2015 18:07 GMT
#2126
its ok vivax you posting crap is your super power
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
November 09 2015 18:08 GMT
#2127
On November 09 2015 20:20 raynpelikoneet wrote:
So that was the only team that had a reasonable chance of going onto a mission.

##Nominate: raynpelikoneet, sicklucker, Half the sky, Shockeyy


On November 09 2015 21:31 Xatalos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2015 20:20 raynpelikoneet wrote:
So that was the only team that had a reasonable chance of going onto a mission.

##Nominate: raynpelikoneet, sicklucker, Half the sky, Shockeyy


Quite a curious nomination. Another reaction test, or you don't think any other team can pass at this point......?


On November 09 2015 22:00 Xatalos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2015 21:52 raynpelikoneet wrote:
So like, Xatalos is stubbornly trying to push a team that has both me and him in it, when at least half of the people in the game think one of us might be scum.

HtS doesn't even read the game (or apparently any game she has ever played) so i don't see any reason i should pay any attention to what she posts.

Shockeyy hasn't made a single logical conslusion in this game, and Artanis now for some reason thinks Xatalos is mafia instead of sicklucker because of what Shockeyy says.

sicklucker doesn't wanna say yes to any team he doesn't pick himself, doesn't scumhunt and just hides behind his heuristic.

Superbia gave up a long time ago on this game.

So yeah, i am just gonna vote yes to any team that gets picked and/or wait for SL to present his team and if the team is all town we win -- or if the team fails i am gonna blame the dude who picked the team. Because that's the correct play, right sicklucker?

Basically this game cannot possibly go anywhere so i don't really see any reason why i should give any fucks rn.


Tbh I think this nomination is probably the only one where we have a chance anymore.... But I guess quite a few scumread you now so I can understand why it seems difficult. Then should we just try voting for a team or something?


More on why Xatalos is a spy -

Mission 1: Xatalos, rayn, sicklucker - vote passed 5:4, mission failed.

Rayn suggested a team of himself, sicklucker (TWO FROM THE ABOVE FAILED MISSION!!!!) me, and Shockey.

And then Xatalos turns around and says "this nomination is the only one we have a chance"??????

When in HIS world he's town and we know for a FACT one of these two failed, he's saying we have a chance?

Are you remotely kidding me?!?!?!?!?

That is one atrocious response if I've ever seen one.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
November 09 2015 18:11 GMT
#2128
I have to wrap up and work and head home in roughly an hour. Hopefully I'll catch you somepoint this evening Vivax. Looking forward to your thoughts.

See you soon lovelies!
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
November 09 2015 18:23 GMT
#2129
On November 10 2015 02:53 Half the Sky wrote:
Kita could you please answer why you think SL's erratic posting is alignment indicative? I asked a question of you sometime back....ehh let me find it.


His strategy is essentially to accept any team that includes himself and attack any player that attacks him. I feel this is alignment indicative because it's exactly how I played as spy in resistance 2.

+ Show Spoiler +
On November 03 2015 22:20 sicklucker wrote:
yo xataloser is a bad guy


On November 03 2015 22:24 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2015 22:21 Half the Sky wrote:
On November 03 2015 22:20 sicklucker wrote:
yo xataloser is a bad guy


Why?


he failed my omgus test where I omgus people who put doubt on my not giving a fuck.

I call it plan no give a fuck


On November 03 2015 22:29 sicklucker wrote:
No but I figured scum would go out of there way to not let me get away with being a shitty player


On November 03 2015 22:36 sicklucker wrote:
Note that xata is annoyed trying to convince me otherwise and backtracked later with reasons to townread me. He didnt bring this reason up when he complained to rayn


On November 04 2015 19:44 sicklucker wrote:
Like do you want me to summarize my filter for you. Ive given my plan. gonna veto any xatalos unless its like me and rayn then ill reread his shit. Taking it day by day. playing the long and underwhelming game


On November 05 2015 09:43 sicklucker wrote:
like if xata picks the team i want (he did kinda) that proves to me i can probably trust him



He scum reads Xata, explains why, and states that he would reject any team with Xata unless SL is included. Whether or not your scum read brings you along on a mission set up for failure should not influence your read on that player.

Xata + X + Y = Fail because Xata is scum
Xata + X + SL = Pass because ????

He later explains that he "didnt think a scum xata would have the balls". He didn't have the balls to bring along a townie? As opposed to bring along some other random townie? Huh?

Next, he calls super scum because super stated that the Xat/rayn/SL team would get rejected and that SL should have been replaced by Artanis. He explains that super wanted to reject the all town team, even though he didn't think Xat was mafia at the time. He then explains that the all town team in reference was rayn/SL/artanis. This doesn't make sense either because the post SL attacked super for stated that he wanted SL replaced by artanis.

On November 09 2015 02:28 sicklucker wrote:
xata if your the town in rayn/you your literally losing town the game thinking the way you do. People like shockey/rels who voted no on a mission that failed are not going to be scum very often. you need to adjust your reads as scum bro


Next he uses this explanation to state that shockeyy and rels are town. Yet his scum reads include myself and super, also no voters. He is using the same argument to state that certain players are town, yet ignores his own argument in regards to others. He buddies the players that town read him and attack the players the scum read him.

Right now the policy he is pushing is to fail every team until it is his turn to nominate himself.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22269 Posts
November 09 2015 18:57 GMT
#2130
Superbia started out the game great and Xata looks like scum, I have to agree with my predecessor. That's what I gain from reading the start of this game.

Although for me it's more of a toneread on Xata around the phase where super stops posting and kita joins the game. These are all consecutive posts and they look kinda nervous to me.

Xata just came out from an extended discussion with my slot, and that's how his posts look (like he's worn out).
Him talking about kita as if it mattered about his alignment that he didn't reply within ~30 minutes, dropping a series of exhausted posts that look like he's crying out to someone to end his life.

That's a bit exaggerated but

tl;dr: This post series I don't like.

They just look fake and are kinda apathetic. The way he thinks of "oh shit I need to get some reads out now" right after the convo when only 3 players posted look like he feels forced to do that.

+ Show Spoiler +

On November 02 2015 09:00 Xatalos wrote:
Well, I mostly hope Half the Sky would appear. A great deal will depend on her alignment. Such as if her proposed team can even be considered.

Next up seems to be me... That's nice. Should be enough time to find two townies by that time.


On November 02 2015 09:02 Xatalos wrote:
Damn... Am I just antepenultimate because I forgot to claim penultimate?


On November 02 2015 09:06 Xatalos wrote:
kita, did you get anything out of our furious exchange just now?


On November 02 2015 09:19 Xatalos wrote:
Either there's an elaborate essay incoming or that was a really weak entry....


On November 02 2015 09:29 Xatalos wrote:
I guess there isn't anything.

Can't say either kita or Superbia left good impressions yet. kita for just ignoring everything and leaving, and Superbia for announcing some long-term scumread (??) based on me saying that the lack of communications should be a mess for scum...

Eagerly anticipating Half the Sky's entry... I go to sleep.



And I like rayn for townreading my predecessor and bashing heads with Rels on that matter. I think I want to TR rayn for that.
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
November 09 2015 19:08 GMT
#2131
Kita me not remembering my reads or getting myself confused on what i said is not a scum trait. I call it a sunday afternoon
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
November 09 2015 19:08 GMT
#2132
Well I usually remember my reads but your qeustions confused the shit out of me
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
November 09 2015 19:11 GMT
#2133
On November 10 2015 03:08 Half the Sky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2015 20:20 raynpelikoneet wrote:
So that was the only team that had a reasonable chance of going onto a mission.

##Nominate: raynpelikoneet, sicklucker, Half the sky, Shockeyy


Show nested quote +
On November 09 2015 21:31 Xatalos wrote:
On November 09 2015 20:20 raynpelikoneet wrote:
So that was the only team that had a reasonable chance of going onto a mission.

##Nominate: raynpelikoneet, sicklucker, Half the sky, Shockeyy


Quite a curious nomination. Another reaction test, or you don't think any other team can pass at this point......?


Show nested quote +
On November 09 2015 22:00 Xatalos wrote:
On November 09 2015 21:52 raynpelikoneet wrote:
So like, Xatalos is stubbornly trying to push a team that has both me and him in it, when at least half of the people in the game think one of us might be scum.

HtS doesn't even read the game (or apparently any game she has ever played) so i don't see any reason i should pay any attention to what she posts.

Shockeyy hasn't made a single logical conslusion in this game, and Artanis now for some reason thinks Xatalos is mafia instead of sicklucker because of what Shockeyy says.

sicklucker doesn't wanna say yes to any team he doesn't pick himself, doesn't scumhunt and just hides behind his heuristic.

Superbia gave up a long time ago on this game.

So yeah, i am just gonna vote yes to any team that gets picked and/or wait for SL to present his team and if the team is all town we win -- or if the team fails i am gonna blame the dude who picked the team. Because that's the correct play, right sicklucker?

Basically this game cannot possibly go anywhere so i don't really see any reason why i should give any fucks rn.


Tbh I think this nomination is probably the only one where we have a chance anymore.... But I guess quite a few scumread you now so I can understand why it seems difficult. Then should we just try voting for a team or something?


More on why Xatalos is a spy -

Mission 1: Xatalos, rayn, sicklucker - vote passed 5:4, mission failed.

Rayn suggested a team of himself, sicklucker (TWO FROM THE ABOVE FAILED MISSION!!!!) me, and Shockey.

And then Xatalos turns around and says "this nomination is the only one we have a chance"??????

When in HIS world he's town and we know for a FACT one of these two failed, he's saying we have a chance?

Are you remotely kidding me?!?!?!?!?

That is one atrocious response if I've ever seen one.


.....You're not even reading anymore. That wasn't obviously about rayn's proposed team there, but about this nomination overall (considering the next leaders we have).

Your push is still making no sense....

On November 09 2015 23:36 Xatalos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2015 23:33 Half the Sky wrote:
What you are saying right now doesn't make any sense. rayn had his reasoning for his reads, he had always townread you and scumread sicklucker - but your reasoning isn't flowing at all.


.......wtf

1) I heavily townread rayn, somewhat townread SL
2) rayn heavily townreads me, somewhat townreads SL
3) mission fails
4) we both still townread each other, scumread SL
5) HTS says Xata is sure scum, rayn is sure town for these events
6) ?????????????????????!?!!!!!!

"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
November 09 2015 19:12 GMT
#2134
vivax I think we can be friends. maybe. Im still undecided at rayn/xata there both pretty scummy its hard to choose. But the fact your not coming out calling me scum is a good sign
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
November 09 2015 19:13 GMT
#2135
On November 10 2015 03:57 Vivax wrote:
Superbia started out the game great and Xata looks like scum, I have to agree with my predecessor. That's what I gain from reading the start of this game.

Although for me it's more of a toneread on Xata around the phase where super stops posting and kita joins the game. These are all consecutive posts and they look kinda nervous to me.

Xata just came out from an extended discussion with my slot, and that's how his posts look (like he's worn out).
Him talking about kita as if it mattered about his alignment that he didn't reply within ~30 minutes, dropping a series of exhausted posts that look like he's crying out to someone to end his life.

That's a bit exaggerated but

tl;dr: This post series I don't like.

They just look fake and are kinda apathetic. The way he thinks of "oh shit I need to get some reads out now" right after the convo when only 3 players posted look like he feels forced to do that.

+ Show Spoiler +

On November 02 2015 09:00 Xatalos wrote:
Well, I mostly hope Half the Sky would appear. A great deal will depend on her alignment. Such as if her proposed team can even be considered.

Next up seems to be me... That's nice. Should be enough time to find two townies by that time.


On November 02 2015 09:02 Xatalos wrote:
Damn... Am I just antepenultimate because I forgot to claim penultimate?


On November 02 2015 09:06 Xatalos wrote:
kita, did you get anything out of our furious exchange just now?


On November 02 2015 09:19 Xatalos wrote:
Either there's an elaborate essay incoming or that was a really weak entry....


On November 02 2015 09:29 Xatalos wrote:
I guess there isn't anything.

Can't say either kita or Superbia left good impressions yet. kita for just ignoring everything and leaving, and Superbia for announcing some long-term scumread (??) based on me saying that the lack of communications should be a mess for scum...

Eagerly anticipating Half the Sky's entry... I go to sleep.



And I like rayn for townreading my predecessor and bashing heads with Rels on that matter. I think I want to TR rayn for that.


Read the game besides the first posts before making accusations please.......
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
November 09 2015 19:16 GMT
#2136
On November 10 2015 03:08 Half the Sky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2015 20:20 raynpelikoneet wrote:
So that was the only team that had a reasonable chance of going onto a mission.

##Nominate: raynpelikoneet, sicklucker, Half the sky, Shockeyy


Show nested quote +
On November 09 2015 21:31 Xatalos wrote:
On November 09 2015 20:20 raynpelikoneet wrote:
So that was the only team that had a reasonable chance of going onto a mission.

##Nominate: raynpelikoneet, sicklucker, Half the sky, Shockeyy


Quite a curious nomination. Another reaction test, or you don't think any other team can pass at this point......?


Show nested quote +
On November 09 2015 22:00 Xatalos wrote:
On November 09 2015 21:52 raynpelikoneet wrote:
So like, Xatalos is stubbornly trying to push a team that has both me and him in it, when at least half of the people in the game think one of us might be scum.

HtS doesn't even read the game (or apparently any game she has ever played) so i don't see any reason i should pay any attention to what she posts.

Shockeyy hasn't made a single logical conslusion in this game, and Artanis now for some reason thinks Xatalos is mafia instead of sicklucker because of what Shockeyy says.

sicklucker doesn't wanna say yes to any team he doesn't pick himself, doesn't scumhunt and just hides behind his heuristic.

Superbia gave up a long time ago on this game.

So yeah, i am just gonna vote yes to any team that gets picked and/or wait for SL to present his team and if the team is all town we win -- or if the team fails i am gonna blame the dude who picked the team. Because that's the correct play, right sicklucker?

Basically this game cannot possibly go anywhere so i don't really see any reason why i should give any fucks rn.


Tbh I think this nomination is probably the only one where we have a chance anymore.... But I guess quite a few scumread you now so I can understand why it seems difficult. Then should we just try voting for a team or something?


More on why Xatalos is a spy -

Mission 1: Xatalos, rayn, sicklucker - vote passed 5:4, mission failed.

Rayn suggested a team of himself, sicklucker (TWO FROM THE ABOVE FAILED MISSION!!!!) me, and Shockey.

And then Xatalos turns around and says "this nomination is the only one we have a chance"??????

When in HIS world he's town and we know for a FACT one of these two failed, he's saying we have a chance?

Are you remotely kidding me?!?!?!?!?

That is one atrocious response if I've ever seen one.


I just can't understand why you even bother pushing this bullshit. This whole post is just completely false. As was your previous reason of me "TMI'ng" rayn after the fail.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
November 09 2015 19:17 GMT
#2137
But at least now I can be pretty confident that HTS is scum.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
November 09 2015 20:24 GMT
#2138
On November 09 2015 20:20 raynpelikoneet wrote:
So that was the only team that had a reasonable chance of going onto a mission.

##Nominate: raynpelikoneet, sicklucker, Half the sky, Shockeyy

LOL did you nominate yourself and your three scumreads ? =D
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
November 09 2015 20:26 GMT
#2139
On November 09 2015 22:56 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Hold on
I just realized one of HtS/Rels/Shockeyy is always town.
I'm not sure why I didn't realize that before.

Please share your thought process.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 09 2015 20:28 GMT
#2140
On November 10 2015 05:26 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2015 22:56 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Hold on
I just realized one of HtS/Rels/Shockeyy is always town.
I'm not sure why I didn't realize that before.

Please share your thought process.

think harder...
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