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Okay, Trfel:
1) Yes, I remember him liking my post with the null read on him, that everyone else hated. Maybe he was trying to buddy up to me, so I give him a town lean instead?
I also think 2) are 3) are valid points.
But my problem is that I don't agree with your points on Breskhe and think that he has a very high chance of flipping mafia. So while I don't like FF, I am not sure I want to vote FF over Breshke.
Btw... where the hell is Breshke? Also The Shining. Me no like.
On November 20 2015 23:43 Damdred wrote:
Morning.
The vote is a bit worrying I suppose but I'll think and post in a bit
Can you explain what worries you? Did you get anywhere with your inquiries?
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Looking at Trfel's defense on breshke again.
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On November 21 2015 00:52 disformation wrote:
Looking at Trfel's defense on breshke again.
Yeah, looked at Breshke's filter again and I am not seeing the love. 
On November 21 2015 00:59 Damdred wrote:
Why won't you just answer my questions, I have read Breshke and there's not much in the way there of towniness.
So what exactly do you like now?
And dis of course it's nerve racking some people I'm not sure of are on here and unless the scum team is exactly Breshke Trfel and ever something isn't right.
Well, I can really agree to the bold part.
Trfel is really confusing to me this game.
FF is lazy as fuck and/or maffay.
Breshke hasn't been here for... what... like 30 hours or something?
The Shining is like barely playing.
Eversince is MIA since Sunday...
Oh wow. I didn't realize that basically everyone and their Mom is currently voting Breshke. *sigh*
With Breshke gone this long I can see mafia bussing him (if Breshke is maffay), but that is of course a load of WIFOM.
This game is starting to give me real headaches.
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On November 21 2015 01:09 disformation wrote:
Trfel is really confusing to me this game.
FF is lazy as fuck and/or maffay.
Breshke hasn't been here for... what... like 30 hours or something?
The Shining is like barely playing.
Eversince is MIA since Sunday...
So imo the maffay team is within these 5 ppl, but unfortunately the town players in that pile don't make the game easier...
Not that I am a bastion of towniness myself...
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On November 21 2015 01:33 Damdred wrote:
Well disf are you saying you think Trfel is scum?
He is a wtf bananaboat... I have no idea what he is trying to do/achieve this game. Tonal he sounds like frustrated town and I like his case on FF and how he is annoying us into reading that.
Though.. like FF pushing Breshke, isn't Trfel pushing FF just selecting the easiest target?
But I just don't agree with his defense on Breskhe and don't get why he would defend him so hard.
The geript/scott stuff D1 was also super strange and I only was able to understand what Trfel meant after he explained it for the billionth time somewhen D2.
Trfel's PoE is also super scary. He has an uncc blue in it and I know I am VT.
Let me read his filter once more, maybe I will be able to make up my mind. No promises though.
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Also why would scum!Trfel want to wrestle with geript, who he said himself is a very good player, and was townread by like everyone but Trfel?
Damdred logic to stronk.
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So I am basically back at my tinfoil where all the fights/cases/ppl yelling at each other are town on town and mafia is lurking around about doing jack, cause they don't need to. Also protected by the fact that a fair share of townies are also very inactive or have a rather scummy game, so they can look forward to having a bunch of easy misslynches.
Removing trfel from my list PoE thus says maffay is in:
Breshke
Fecalfeast
The Shining
Eversince
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Oh... also: why would scum!trfel keep an uncc blue in his PoE list?
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On November 21 2015 02:26 NocturneMage wrote:
The last question is probably the best question there. I would have to take a look at his read on Moosy or if he even had one.
And disformation did he? I thought Trfel said he gives replacements a days pass?
On November 20 2015 08:07 Trfel wrote:Show nested quote +On November 20 2015 07:59 ritoky wrote:On November 20 2015 07:56 Trfel wrote:
Like, I'm pouring so much time into this game. During my exam week, when I said I'd be busy.
And now I'm being lynched because "geript said..." When geript didn't do a single towny thing all game long?
I don't care that geript's flipped town, that DOES NOT make him right. AS PROVEN BY MY ROLE PM.
Use a bit of sense. so who's mafia then? why did you back off damdred if his slot's play made no sense? I always give replacements a day pass. There's absolutely no reason not to do so. Often times, a replacing player gives a new perspective to the slot's alignment that I simply couldn't see before. I keep looking at Breshke's play, and it seems to be getting worse and worse. The big thing that stands out are the unfulfilled activity promises, he keeps vanishing. But this is exam time for him, he barely signed up to play anyway. Activity aside, his play feels very genuine and there's a natural progression to the way that he pushed his scum reads on Day 1. MoosyDoosy has seemed quite towny with the push on FarahBlackwing, but since Damdred's replacement MoosyDoosy has been pretty awful. The claim included. Shooting someone for information is terrible. But I don't see any reason for him to claim there as mafia, he wasn't really suspected by anyone and the bad claim can only hurt him in the end. By process of elimination, I'm down to disformation, Fecalfeast, Damdred, and Eversince. The last two of which are terrible lynches today for reasons previously mentioned.
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On November 21 2015 02:25 Damdred wrote:
Shining isn't scum like pretty sure about it at this point.
I mean a ff Breshke and ever team isn't the worst idea.
But I'm not so sure entirely.
Disfo talk me through your read progression on Trfel and ritoky.
I am kinda worried I missed something and someone is screwing town hard. But who?
NM and ritoky are very town to me. Your reasoning just now makes me also think you are very town, on top of being uncc. MD is also uncc and constantly pushing ppl he thinks are scum, although I feel his reads do not change much and he fell of D2. My role PM tells me I am a VT. I just excluded Trfel from my PoE cause his play makes a lot less sense as scum.
So unless Eversince is a PR and either MD or you took a HUGE risk in fake claiming there are like no options left.
I also think out of those 4 The Shining is the most town and am still willing to give him a day to town up the thread.
I think I called ritoky town all game, since he gave me no reason to do so otherwise. Give me a moment to write up the progressions though.
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On November 21 2015 02:34 NocturneMage wrote:
Disformation he says Breshke's activity keeps getting worse but he doesn't say the interactions are getting worse (not lack of them but quality of them). He focuses on day 1 but not day 2. That is what I struggled with.
Also I am pretty sure Damdred's question was with respect to his vote day 1 not now and that Trfel quote is day 2?
I quoted that Trfel post for the PoE list that is including uncc Vet Damdred.
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Edited some stuff out, to make this more readable. I add a link to the original post for those I edited.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/497023-newbie-student-mafia-xvii-fullmetal-edition?page=18#359:
On November 16 2015 08:30 disformation wrote:
Trfel.. kinda strange reaction to VE's uh... lets call it a poke. Not sure if his knee jerk reaction is maffay or town motivated.
ritoky: Getting an investigating/engaging/driving the thread feel, so town lean.
ritoky: town for tone and how he was approaching/interacting with the thread.
the trfel read is explained in more detail here:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/497023-newbie-student-mafia-xvii-fullmetal-edition?page=22#433
On November 17 2015 02:30 disformation wrote:Show nested quote +On November 16 2015 23:34 NocturneMage wrote:
Alright, so ritoky is certainly town for 362, I'm moving geript back to null until he can explain why he thinks the Trfel push is malicious, not seeing further explanation yet in his filter.
disformation why is Trfel's post "strange"? You are a newer player like myself so ignoring meta, can you expand on what you thought was wrong with it? I can try.  So TS posts this: Show nested quote +On November 16 2015 06:22 The Shining wrote:On November 16 2015 06:19 geript wrote:
Also if trfel hasn't said at least 1 smart thing by tomorrow we kill him. I like this. Trfels entrance was a one liner asking you to explain your read. And the posts are worryingly short. Is this the same Trfel that likes to post crazy WoT to start games and do stuff to get conversation and reads going? Because that is the town Trfel I know and this isn't him. A few mins later Trfel posts this: Show nested quote +On November 16 2015 06:24 Trfel wrote:VisceraEyesVisceraEyes makes two posts showing suspicion of The Shining. + Show Spoiler +On November 16 2015 05:35 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On November 16 2015 05:34 The Shining wrote:
Farrah your logic is flawed. I rolled scum a few games ago which means I'm due for another 10 town games, which this is. Your instant vote is pretty uncalled for so early, with so many people missing but I'll chalk it up to interesting entrance. How far you plan on pushing this obvious policy lynch?
Actually all the entrances so far suck. No TRs, town Y u make this so hard? No townreads = trying to keep options open. Marfia. On November 16 2015 05:37 VisceraEyes wrote:
Like statistically speaking you could just close your eyes and point at a townie, so the fact that you can't trust ANYONE with so many having posted is a huge red flag for me. After these posts, VisceraEyes treats The Shining like he is town, specifically by telling The Shining how to properly play as town. + Show Spoiler +On November 16 2015 05:43 VisceraEyes wrote:
As for finding scum not town, it's infinitely easier to narrow down your search by correctly identifying townies. This is known. On November 16 2015 05:45 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On November 16 2015 05:44 The Shining wrote:
If you want me to explain, the logic of closing your eyes and finding a town less than an hour to d1 by just pointing means statistically you have a higher chance of finding town by being random. By that same logic, snap voting this early on D1 means it has a higher chance of landing on town.
Farrah why do you think the game is boring less than an hour after it started? That feels pretty ñonsensical. Things have to happen for it to be exciting, or boring. Deciding its boring on the 3rd post of the game is pretty weird. And AS I said, it wasn't a random snap vote. It's a vote placed with reason. You may or may not agree with the reason, that's your prerogative and should affect whether or not you place your vote. Not mine. <3 Furthermore, Eversince's post on FarahBlackwing has a very large logical flaw, in that The Shining hadn't posted at the time. Eversince is comparing a townread based on actual posts to a vote with zero reason from this game, which does not work. VisceraEyes knows much better than this. This isn't VisceraEyes pushing The Shining, this is VisceraEyes reading incorrectly and flailing wildly at The Shining with words that don't match his stance. Hm looking at the timestamps that could have been ninja... Well what I meant at the time with strange: 1) the timing 2) the targets. What is strange with the targets? Well he basically helps defending TS from mean VE, after TS expressed his dislike of Trfel. So in maffay motivations this trfel post could have been motivated to a) "hey look I am doing Trfel town stuff" and b) "hey TS I am totally on your side, ease up your suspicions on me." Even with the TS post being a ninja motivation 1) still is possible, since the geript post. Not enough to give Trfel a scum read, but I won't give him a town read either.
So I find the timing and the motivation of Trfel's post odd, but as always fail to come to a solid conclusion on Trfel.
On November 17 2015 03:06 disformation wrote:Show nested quote +On November 17 2015 02:50 disformation wrote:
So to summarize:
ppl I currently don't like: MoosyDoosy, Trfel, FF Should add at least a bit of reasoning: All three are in dire need of contributing more and have exhibited a bit of suspicious actions. (MoosyDoosy buggering off without explaining his reads, Trefel explained a few posts above and FF being lurky as hell, with minimal contributions.) Other thoughts: Eversince will probably just get a pass from me for D1 because of the surgeries along with some points for trying to be here and do stuff. I didn't mind Farah, but want to see more in the near future. Still a bit waffly (btw: for ppl that don't know me: I am The Waffleboy) on The Shining, but he is a town lean for me atm. Also waffly about Breshke. Kinda liked scotts entry, so townlean unless he just vanishes for the rest of the day. I know scott is a low volume poster and I have a bit of a problem with that, since it often leads to me feeling like I don't see a proper read progression. NocturneMage, geript, ritoky and VE town.
rit town read and despite not reaching a conclusion on Trfel earlier he shows up in the list of ppl that I dislike. A bunch of ppl rightfully complain about this and I try to explain:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/497023-newbie-student-mafia-xvii-fullmetal-edition?page=32#626
So what I wanted to say: I don't have a solid scum read on him, but he shows up in my PoE since I also don't TR him and have suspicious as I indicated earlier.
On November 17 2015 10:58 disformation wrote:Show nested quote +On November 17 2015 10:31 ritoky wrote:On November 17 2015 10:26 disformation wrote:On November 17 2015 10:24 NocturneMage wrote:
Besides Moosy, at the moment, there are others that I have questions on like VE (like FF can't be his only scumread), geript to a lesser extent (he's not lynchable but I want the whole Trfel thing to check out), disformation, the scott followup on Trfel.
And VE completely dodged Breshke's questions upon re-reading. I'll be around another one or two hours, so if you have questions, feel free to ask. 3 never lynch today people and top 3 lynches today plz. a line or 2 on why, thanks bb Kay: Never Lynch Today Hasn't changed much from my last posts. 1) ritoky: Strong thread presence, prodding ppl looking for answers, I genuinely believe he wants to figure out ppls alignment. 2) NocturneMage: Super more active/interactive compared to NSM13. Not by a bit but by a HUGE margin. 3) geript: Came in the thread pretty strong, prodding ppl for different things, but hasn't been here today. I hope he drops by later though. Top Lynches: This is kinda difficult right now. Rethinking a few things... 1) MoosyDoosy: Does he even count? Feels a bit like a policy lynch as stated earlier. So alternatives to MD... The Shining hasn't been here in ages... I am warming up a bit on FF... Scott hasn't done much after he got that hasty town lean from me... not sure on VE, conflicted if I like ritokys (and geripts) meta read more than trfl's case... I should probably like the meta read more since it is by two guys on my never lynch today list... won't lunch ES today... mh... probably next up is scott and I feel like an idiot now. -.- 2) scott bonus: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/497023-newbie-student-mafia-xvii-fullmetal-edition?page=23#441 Not sure what the point of this post was. Buddying up to me? 3) Either still FF or someone else... taking a shower, will think on this, brb
On November 17 2015 11:03 disformation wrote:
Bonus note: I have no real clue where trfl's reads are at...
rit: town.
trfel: no idea where his reads are at: no like still suspicious.
On November 18 2015 01:37 disformation wrote:Trfel- Already expanded on his early VE case here:
+ Show Spoiler +On November 17 2015 02:30 disformation wrote:I can try. So TS posts this: Show nested quote +On November 16 2015 06:22 The Shining wrote:On November 16 2015 06:19 geript wrote:
Also if trfel hasn't said at least 1 smart thing by tomorrow we kill him. I like this. Trfels entrance was a one liner asking you to explain your read. And the posts are worryingly short. Is this the same Trfel that likes to post crazy WoT to start games and do stuff to get conversation and reads going? Because that is the town Trfel I know and this isn't him. A few mins later Trfel posts this: Show nested quote +On November 16 2015 06:24 Trfel wrote:VisceraEyesVisceraEyes makes two posts showing suspicion of The Shining. + Show Spoiler +On November 16 2015 05:35 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On November 16 2015 05:34 The Shining wrote:
Farrah your logic is flawed. I rolled scum a few games ago which means I'm due for another 10 town games, which this is. Your instant vote is pretty uncalled for so early, with so many people missing but I'll chalk it up to interesting entrance. How far you plan on pushing this obvious policy lynch?
Actually all the entrances so far suck. No TRs, town Y u make this so hard? No townreads = trying to keep options open. Marfia. On November 16 2015 05:37 VisceraEyes wrote:
Like statistically speaking you could just close your eyes and point at a townie, so the fact that you can't trust ANYONE with so many having posted is a huge red flag for me. After these posts, VisceraEyes treats The Shining like he is town, specifically by telling The Shining how to properly play as town. + Show Spoiler +On November 16 2015 05:43 VisceraEyes wrote:
As for finding scum not town, it's infinitely easier to narrow down your search by correctly identifying townies. This is known. On November 16 2015 05:45 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On November 16 2015 05:44 The Shining wrote:
If you want me to explain, the logic of closing your eyes and finding a town less than an hour to d1 by just pointing means statistically you have a higher chance of finding town by being random. By that same logic, snap voting this early on D1 means it has a higher chance of landing on town.
Farrah why do you think the game is boring less than an hour after it started? That feels pretty ñonsensical. Things have to happen for it to be exciting, or boring. Deciding its boring on the 3rd post of the game is pretty weird. And AS I said, it wasn't a random snap vote. It's a vote placed with reason. You may or may not agree with the reason, that's your prerogative and should affect whether or not you place your vote. Not mine. <3 Furthermore, Eversince's post on FarahBlackwing has a very large logical flaw, in that The Shining hadn't posted at the time. Eversince is comparing a townread based on actual posts to a vote with zero reason from this game, which does not work. VisceraEyes knows much better than this. This isn't VisceraEyes pushing The Shining, this is VisceraEyes reading incorrectly and flailing wildly at The Shining with words that don't match his stance. Hm looking at the timestamps that could have been ninja... Well what I meant at the time with strange: 1) the timing 2) the targets. What is strange with the targets? Well he basically helps defending TS from mean VE, after TS expressed his dislike of Trfel. So in maffay motivations this trfel post could have been motivated to a) "hey look I am doing Trfel town stuff" and b) "hey TS I am totally on your side, ease up your suspicions on me." Even with the TS post being a ninja motivation 1) still is possible, since the geript post. Not enough to give Trfel a scum read, but I won't give him a town read either.
- Posts a new, way more fleshed out case on VE:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/497023-newbie-student-mafia-xvii-fullmetal-edition?page=23#447
Not sure if the case holds, but the willingness to pursuit his scum read despite resistance, is town for me.
- Follows up with interactions with different ppls. I can clearly follow his train of thought on his new prime suspect scott. Still doesn't like VE.
Agenda seems to be figuring out the game and pushing his prime suspects. Town pile for today.
Did a filter dive on Trfel and decide that his pursuit of VE is rather town than scum.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/497023-newbie-student-mafia-xvii-fullmetal-edition?page=45#890
On November 18 2015 08:57 disformation wrote:
Trfel
Thought he was town before all the EoD stuff happened. Need to look at it again and re-evaluate. Not sure if I'll be able to get that done before EoN though.
On November 18 2015 23:55 disformation wrote:Now what I found in Trfel's filter: Show nested quote +On November 18 2015 04:21 Trfel wrote:
Wait, what the heck?
This push onto Breshke is so mafia-motivated. I don't trust geript at all here.
Look at scott31337's townread of geript. He just says that geript is a top town.
Notice that he repeatedly says "Trfel could be scum or he could be town" in response to me solving the game and pushing my ideas.
He never describes any difference between me and geript, just uses the fact that I had one good game as scum to avoid townreading me. But geript is better than me at mafia, by far, and scott31337 knows this. It's impossible for him not to know that geript is extremely skilled as mafia.
So now geript comes up with this push out of nowhere to prevent scott31337 from being lynched?
I don't like this one bit. Isn't that whole post basically a fear read on geript? Fear reads are bad mkay. Is he trying to sow distraction? Not a fan but I need to read his filter for conclusions.
That is when I was greatly confused by the geript/scott association thing Trfel posted.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/497023-newbie-student-mafia-xvii-fullmetal-edition?page=60#1187
On November 19 2015 23:05 disformation wrote:
ritoky, was worried when he fell off, but since he got back I only got town vibes, so he stays town.
trfel. in my tinfoil world he is town. him being the vig would make tons of sense to me. that being said, I am still confused by a few of his posts. I have a half finished filter dive on him saved somewhere, will look at that some more later.
I later expand on this post:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/497023-newbie-student-mafia-xvii-fullmetal-edition?page=62#1222
On November 20 2015 05:05 disformation wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On November 19 2015 23:05 disformation wrote:Hi Damdred, Hi sicklucker  Should have gone to bed earlier yesterday. 13 hours of mafia after 4 hours of sleep might not have been the greatest of ideas. At least I now 100% believe the vet claim. So: ritoky, was worried when he fell off, but since he got back I only got town vibes, so he stays town. moosydoosy. Still not a fan of my sweetheart, but still think he is far more likely to flip town than scum. damdy. vet. trfel. in my tinfoil world he is town. him being the vig would make tons of sense to me. that being said, I am still confused by a few of his posts. I have a half finished filter dive on him saved somewhere, will look at that some more later. FF. Like null? I know he is supposed to be lazy as town, but I could easily see him as mafia coasting by at this point. Eversince. I also hope there were no problems with the surgery and stuff, but there aren't that many options left and that could bite town in the ass soon. I also remembered that we are supposed to have at least 5 posts per day/night cycle and get modkilled if we don't, as per the rules in the op. Though hoping for a replacement/modkill is probably not the safest/best way to handle this. Breshke. Okay, I admit the stuff I said yesterday about him parking his vote on MD, might just be because of timezones. Still high chance of flipping scum though, since I haven't seen anything that made my stomach tingly and the points from D1 still stand. The Shining. Still want to see a bunch more from him to decide. Not compelled in either direction atm, but the PoE is getting smaller... So yeah if the vigi is someone of the bottom 4 1/2 ppl in this list I would love for him to claim, since this would greatly improve our chances to hit mafia today. So imo we either deal with Eversince today, as damdy suggested or we lynch one of Breshke/FF. To expand and update on my current read list: Townritoky Was worried at one point, cause he kinda fell off the thread, but when he came back I kinda immediately felt the town vibe. It is kinda hard to describe and partially tone based, but it is how he is interacting with ppl and how he kept his cool during the Farah claiming situation D2 and tried to find the best play for town. BananaboatTrfel Currently conflicted here. Wrong/Frustrated town or not? This is probably a big thing to figure out for town as a whole.
So in summary: I think ritoky is pretty towny this game, but that is a pretty tonal read. Maybe I should be more careful with that, but I haven't seen anything to call him scum for.
Trfel I have a hard time reading, since I can't wrap my head around a bunch of his cases, like the defense on Breskhe and the geript/scott thing.
If you have more questions, please shoot.
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Hm. scum!Trfel could have thought that MD would be easier to misslynch later on?
But, WIFOM.
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On November 21 2015 03:29 NocturneMage wrote:
at some point I'll need to actually look into ritoky just to make sure he's not the one fooling us either but right now I can't see why....
also disformation or whoever said that moosydoosy or damdred would chance eversince never returning and fakeclaiming....that's sort of on the lines not playing to moderator actions as either alignment. we don't know what the mods will do, or at least I don't. lets say the moderators modkill eversince and she flips vigilante....
....well then, that blows scumteam strategy out of the water.
let's say they replace her and the replacement claims first thing.
same problem for mafia.
Yeah, hence why I said this would be HUGE risk and therefore highly unlikely... though I kinda can see MD going for a flashy/crazy play like this, especially with the late claim.
But unless there is a claim by Eversince/A replacement I won't actually go there.
Just me being paranoid and not liking MD. :p
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FF:
On November 20 2015 10:51 Fecalfeast wrote:Show nested quote +On November 20 2015 10:42 disformation wrote:Yo, FF any suspects outside Breshke and Trfel? Also would like for you to explain why you prefer lynching Breshke. And furthermore... do you have any solid town reads? Trfel: am I right to assume that you have a solid TR on the ppl not mentioned in: On November 20 2015 08:07 Trfel wrote:On November 20 2015 07:59 ritoky wrote:On November 20 2015 07:56 Trfel wrote:
Like, I'm pouring so much time into this game. During my exam week, when I said I'd be busy.
And now I'm being lynched because "geript said..." When geript didn't do a single towny thing all game long?
I don't care that geript's flipped town, that DOES NOT make him right. AS PROVEN BY MY ROLE PM.
Use a bit of sense. so who's mafia then? why did you back off damdred if his slot's play made no sense? I always give replacements a day pass. There's absolutely no reason not to do so. Often times, a replacing player gives a new perspective to the slot's alignment that I simply couldn't see before. I keep looking at Breshke's play, and it seems to be getting worse and worse. The big thing that stands out are the unfulfilled activity promises, he keeps vanishing. But this is exam time for him, he barely signed up to play anyway. Activity aside, his play feels very genuine and there's a natural progression to the way that he pushed his scum reads on Day 1. MoosyDoosy has seemed quite towny with the push on FarahBlackwing, but since Damdred's replacement MoosyDoosy has been pretty awful. The claim included. Shooting someone for information is terrible. But I don't see any reason for him to claim there as mafia, he wasn't really suspected by anyone and the bad claim can only hurt him in the end. By process of elimination, I'm down to disformation, Fecalfeast, Damdred, and Eversince. The last two of which are terrible lynches today for reasons previously mentioned. I'm not gonna make up scumreads. I haven't reread you, I haven't reread eversince, I haven't reread shining and I haven't reread moose but those are people I would look at. Towny: NM, ritoky townlean based on real time reading: disform damdred(did he reject the vet claim? I didn't see) ????????? moose ever shining scummy trfel breshke This list is hardly informed I've only been diving a couple filters
Did you get the time to dive a few filter and have new opinions?
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cooking time. random sidenote thought: damdred you haven't given your soulread on ritoky yet, right? Do you suspect he might not be town?
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Yeah, the last time I saw someone not even returning to cast a vote, when he had a ton of votes on him, that was a scum flip.
NSM13 D1 for reference.
Also... that was the answer I was fearing Damdred. Kinda parnoid now.
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Yeah. If breshke is town I am throwing my dinner out of the window and eat a broom instead.
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That would be the second game I am eating a broom related to mafia games on this site.
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So. The roleblocker is dead. That means they need two shots for our vet.
Do you know someone who was maybe trying from preventing that from happening?
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