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disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
November 22 2015 16:28 GMT
#1701
MoosyDoosy had still like 5 votes on him at that time and Breshke only 3. Scott had 2 I think?
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
November 22 2015 16:33 GMT
#1702
I kinda have the problem that this move makes no sense from neither a town nor a mafia perspective.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
November 22 2015 16:37 GMT
#1703
Read EoD again. The Breshke train had like zero pull.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
November 22 2015 16:39 GMT
#1704
Now this is the hard question to me.

To me it seems moosey was the preference for scum going into the last 8-10 hours. No real counter wagon and we only see a flurry of people when moosey wagon starts breaking down.

Way I'm reading it,

Moosey maxed out at 5-6 votes
The majority of the game is scattered about
Trfel pushes a Scott lynch but states would be willing to lynch moosey as well just prefers moosey. Goes afk.
Farah starts moving back and forth between Scott, Disfo being indecisive but doesn't want to lynch moosey.
Geript pushes Breshke and gains Disfo and Farah tying him with moosey but not drawing ahead.
Trfel shows up and yells about lynching Scott.
Farah switches to Scott. Ff when he arrives votes Scott putting him into a 3-3-2 tie with moosey but ahead of Breshke.
From this moment on Breshke has no chance of being lynched Trfel and ritoky stone wall the idea of lynching Breshke.
People pile up on Scott, he gives a last second will ritoky freaks out and switches.

Now what do you think is the most interesting thing in it disfo?
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
November 22 2015 16:58 GMT
#1705
On November 23 2015 01:39 Damdred wrote:
Now this is the hard question to me.

To me it seems moosey was the preference for scum going into the last 8-10 hours. No real counter wagon and we only see a flurry of people when moosey wagon starts breaking down.

Way I'm reading it,

Moosey maxed out at 5-6 votes
The majority of the game is scattered about
Trfel pushes a Scott lynch but states would be willing to lynch moosey as well just prefers moosey. Goes afk.
Farah starts moving back and forth between Scott, Disfo being indecisive but doesn't want to lynch moosey.
Geript pushes Breshke and gains Disfo and Farah tying him with moosey but not drawing ahead.
Trfel shows up and yells about lynching Scott.
Farah switches to Scott. Ff when he arrives votes Scott putting him into a 3-3-2 tie with moosey but ahead of Breshke.
From this moment on Breshke has no chance of being lynched Trfel and ritoky stone wall the idea of lynching Breshke.
People pile up on Scott, he gives a last second will ritoky freaks out and switches.

Now what do you think is the most interesting thing in it disfo?


Hmmm... that Trfel is fine going afk when the two wagons are MD and scott (both town). But comes back and yells about Scott basically the moment Breshke might become a solid lunch option?
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
November 22 2015 17:05 GMT
#1706
Well that is a decent question as well truth be told.

Another good one is if you are ok with a moosey lynch why push another town over him?
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
November 22 2015 17:07 GMT
#1707
That's totally wifom to a degree because I'm not sure what to do with Trfel, or oneg in that regard
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
November 22 2015 17:35 GMT
#1708
On November 23 2015 02:05 Damdred wrote:
Well that is a decent question as well truth be told.

Another good one is if you are ok with a moosey lynch why push another town over him?


Yes.

On November 23 2015 02:07 Damdred wrote:
That's totally wifom to a degree because I'm not sure what to do with Trfel, or oneg in that regard


Yes.
Trfel and Onegu are huge question marks for me.
Well, Onegu is probably a huge question mark for everyone.
And most arguments in favour or against Trfel are kinda WIFOMY.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
November 22 2015 17:40 GMT
#1709
One thing is that Trfel is just complaining but not trying to survive and only wants us to listen to him.

That seems towny to me
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
November 22 2015 17:51 GMT
#1710
I will say however that ritoky could of been vomited town by breshke.

Like that would,make the game super easy.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
November 22 2015 17:58 GMT
#1711
On November 23 2015 02:51 Damdred wrote:
I will say however that ritoky could of been vomited town by breshke.

Like that would,make the game super easy.


Hmm... Breshke did give ritoky a fairly easy townread lumped together with geript D1:

On November 17 2015 07:28 Breshke wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2015 06:04 Trfel wrote:
On November 17 2015 05:58 NocturneMage wrote:
On November 17 2015 05:50 Trfel wrote:
So you're saying that Breshke is suspicious because he's not focusing on the important things in the thread, at the time that he was there?

I guess my question back to you is, how do you determine what the important things in the thread are? Isn't that a matter of opinion?

I'll take a look at the context again, this kind of read is definitely valid and can be very powerful, but it's also extremely subjective, which makes it so, so difficult to apply correctly.


You have a point with the second sentence but when you read Breshke's filter, he talks about geript and VE "grilling" him. So he mentions them at the very least. It can be assumed that he's at least read and he makes a read on Shining but fails to take a stance on geript and VE.

Now, I realise there are a lot of Americans in this game and maybe the word "grilling" has a different meaning or a different context to some people but he clearly has an opinion on what is happening but doesn't focus on VE one way whereas other people are. He even says geript taunts him (post 377) but doesn't focus further. Like in his world, something should have tipped him off. Maybe I'm reading too much into it.

MoosyDoosy was not quite as active so he might get a pass if he may have failed to notice but
On November 17 2015 06:00 NocturneMage wrote:
edit: last sentence at Trfel - Moosy not quite as active, but there's no way he couldn't have followed up on VE/geript.
Breshke, please answer this.

NocturneMage, I think I see what you're getting at now. I'd like to see Breshke answer first.


To bet totally honest with my short amount of time yesterday and getting sidetracked posting about the shining I kind of forgot that I hadn't given like any reads on the game especially because the reads are really weak.

So with Geript if it was just some random would be town reading him because his posts don't feel like structured? Im not sure if that is the ebst way to explain it but his posting feels very care free like he has nothing to hide and he ranked people out of 7 like why 7 idc if this sounds dumb but that's just peculiar and not in a bad way because it draws attention to his reads. The problem is I don't doubt Geripts mafia ability especially after some big game that I don't remember the name where he was mafia. Still would not lynch though.

Ritoky is in the same grain as Geript where he is pushing the game forward and I still disagree with him on the shining but I don't think it makes him mafia.

Moosy would lynch in a heartbeat. His mafia list is basically people not being talked about to be lynched and he doesn't even try explain his reads. Doesn't really make much sense

Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
November 22 2015 18:52 GMT
#1712
Well here we are, I'm pretty confident none of dis mages or shining is tricking me currently.

Also reasons I think rit is town.

Now we are down to one Trfel and ff.

One thing that worries me is ff voting and then leaving today without pushing. Oneg still isn't doing anything.

Trfel is pulling a breshkr
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
November 22 2015 18:57 GMT
#1713
I was just reading ff filter and if he's scum he did a pre try good burst activity last night though...

So maybe it just is easy oneg+Trfel.

But

##vote onegu

Let's do this, we won't ever get anything from him plus if we are wrong on Trfel gives us more time to re evaluate.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
November 22 2015 19:19 GMT
#1714
I thought time was almost up zzz well hopefully we get more active
Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
November 22 2015 19:40 GMT
#1715
Ye we still have 24h yet. Idk onegu popping in to say he wont do any work maybe didn't make me feel better about him and i guess killing the question mark before lylo is good too.

Also good morning
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disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
November 22 2015 19:42 GMT
#1716
Yeah. I think getting rid of one of the two big confusing ppl (Onegu and Trfel) is the right choice today. Don't want to have to think about both of those in a mylo situation.
Still trying to wrap my head around Trfel.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
November 22 2015 20:04 GMT
#1717
I think disf is pretty obvious town though
Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
November 22 2015 20:10 GMT
#1718
Yeah this game is easy now imo unless NM got some lessons on scum since july
ModeratorINFLATE YOUR POST COUNT; PLAY TL MAFIA
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
November 22 2015 22:09 GMT
#1719
On November 23 2015 05:04 Damdred wrote:
I think disf is pretty obvious town though


For what it is worth: I think so, too.

On November 23 2015 05:10 Fecalfeast wrote:
Yeah this game is easy now imo unless NM got some lessons on scum since july


Still a bit paranoid I missed something... but unless there is someone on his scum A game, we should be able to do it.
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
November 22 2015 22:48 GMT
#1720
Why is everyone townreading Fecalfeast? All I've seen mentioned is tone.

If the only towny thing that someone has done by Day 3 is tone, that's pretty miserable.
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