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Vonthin
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On October 23 2015 05:02 Rels wrote: Vonthin is scum then. At least that's one people. Why am I scum then he was the best case and none of the other people I thought was scum had a chance of being lynched. | ||
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Vonthin
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Vonthin
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Except that is plain bullshit because I already started to townlean moosy at the start of D2. I see none of this in your filter until you unvoted him, I only see that he was a second tier lynch in one post then you initially voted for him later. Why would you put him in a possible scum/lynch list and then vote for him in the first place if you thought he was town? Anyways im off to my last class for the week. | ||
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Vonthin
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On October 24 2015 02:15 Rels wrote: Did you ever play mafia, or a lying game similar, together ? If not, there is no explanation for that "Fara should read me based off my posting style". If "Fara should read me based off my posting style" is not a good explanation than isn't every meta read from older games not an explanation either then? I don't think Shining is scum still, I think there is a good chance for Farah though. Boxer/Farah and not sure on last one for scum team | ||
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Vonthin
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Farah filter tunnels Es for 2 days, hasn't done anything else, dodges and shots disinterest when we don't talk about ES One of these 2 is 100% scum, can't be scum together | ||
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Vonthin
United States2864 Posts
On October 24 2015 02:24 Rels wrote: Fara never played with Shining. Fara never played a single game before this one. What are you talking about She can still read Shinings old games and also knowing his personality, its considered a meta read. People have meta read me and I havn't played a single game with you guys | ||
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Vonthin
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On October 24 2015 02:37 sicklucker wrote: But she didnt do that. no one meta read you... I dont think you know what a meta read is. were just straight up reading you FF meta read me awhile back, then he asked Boxer to meta read me but he just ignored the question and ended up pushing for a FF lynch | ||
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Vonthin
United States2864 Posts
On October 24 2015 07:03 FarahBlackwing wrote: Explain why I'm scum rels. Onto Vont however it is interesting how he town reads me the entirety of the game and points to the myriad of reads and good thought process. But when people start suspecting me he flips and says I'm very possible scum for not doing much totally contradicting the aforementioned town read. And then when pressed about my read on Shining soft defends me that I can have that read. If I'm scum it won't be a net a read will be a to much information read. ##vote Vonthin Wow didn't know that If I started to read someone as town then they do scummy things I can't switch my opinion on them. You started off looking town by pushing the ES case which was solid but since then you have been doing less and less and just mainly tunneling on ES when you do something. After you realize ES isn't getting lynched you show disinterest and just do things like vote Moosy but don't say why besides that you hope he is scum. Then you have been dodging SL questions which he has asked you 7 times(I would still like you to answer it even with him dead as it is a good question). On top of all the posts that have been clogging up the thread with the you being able to read Shining thing which you could've ended in 1 fucking post explaining in depth why you can read him instead of just dragging it out. Anyways I don't want to lynch you today because I think ES looks just as bad as you imo and there is no way you guys are scum-mates so killing you would be a 50/50 of us losing if we choose poorly. Also I am slightly leaning towards ES being scum between you 2 because of the point I make in the next paragraph. Also if I was scum why would I kill SL when I was one of his main scum reads especially right before he just got shot, it would make me looks really bad. When no scum have been caught yet why would they kill someone that points right at them especially when there is a confirmed townie still alive unless they want people to think myself/shining/farah is scum so it will be an easy mislynch for them to win the game. Boxer has been flying under the radar for so long, same with GB as he as mainly just been sheeping Rels, going to look into GB's filter more later. Just look at Boxers filter and look at the points I made about the Moosy/FF voting and then his stupid post about how he thinks he would get NK'd when a confirmed townie is still in the game. If you guys think I am scum you need to be 100% on this and not just make a bandwagon because both KSC and SL thought I was scum. Read and analyze my filter and make a case on that. | ||
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Vonthin
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Vonthin
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Third scummate is either ES or Farah. Still learning towards ES as Farah is finally starting to scumhunt and not just defending herself and ES still really hasn't done anything worthwhile besides coming in and piling onto the Farah suspicions and just quoting a GB post saying she doesn't like it. Lynch Boxer/GB today and tomorrow, get more reads from Farah and ES to determine which one of them is scum. Win game. | ||
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Vonthin
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Right now rereading ES filter again I am getting more inclined to think she is scum over you. Now that you are done defending yourself/arguing with Rels and others and are scum hunting is good but you are back to tunneling ES. If you can make some good cases for other people it will help me being sure on this as you could very well be possibly scum for tunneling all game on 1 towny trying to win the game with a push on her today. | ||
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Vonthin
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Also I want to know the reasons why you think I am scum other than me thinking you might be scum after you did a lot of stupid shit which other people has also pointed out. | ||
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Vonthin
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This reasoning in this post sounds like something a tunneling scum would say to keep tunneling On October 25 2015 05:19 FarahBlackwing wrote: No I am right on ES I won't case other people when we need to lynch the scum infront of us that we have ignored for three days. Fecal Feast ES response was that he could understand the case and thought it was ok reason to scum read him. let me find it real fast. The whole thing with you being able to read Shining you could've ended with one post instead you kept giving fragments of the reason why and it just derailed the thread for a bit. After that situation you finally answered Sl's question of why me and ES can't be on the same team. I missed it the first time around because it was so short for having a 180 on ES who you have been tunneling most of the game saying that she is town because me and SL cant be scummates.; On October 24 2015 03:20 FarahBlackwing wrote: Not answering, if you want the answer on that talk to damdred. obviously I didn't know terminology before I looked it up or I wouldn't have a reddit link available upon request. they aren't probably its you vont and someone else. You never say why you think I am scum and don't think ES is scum anymore?? That is why I thought there was a chance of you being scum at that point, then you vote for me because I said there is a chance of you being scum over ES. Then there is your posts after Rels voted you after bringing up some valid points anf BF added on somethings. On October 24 2015 23:32 FarahBlackwing wrote: ##unvote ##vote farahblackwing A few things before I die. 1) While I'm not the most experienced when it comes to poe to take a quote from damdred "While poe seems good its a trap that old players fall into and some newer players. Its built around the premise that we want to be lazy and not put work in past a point. Can't defend against it and ends up making you lose games lynching down a list". He laughs about it because he tries to poe games but yeah. 2) Next game you are in try not to tunnel people for such weak reasoning rels. You don't even try to answer the questions I posed of scum motivation in certain things I do. So as confirmed town you should feel bad. 3) It must be nice playing real newb games instead of this sham where we only have three newbies and people treat this like a normal and ignore them for the most part day one and onward until they want to lynch them. Good game and good bye On October 24 2015 23:47 FarahBlackwing wrote: Hey look more down talking to the newb poking fun at me using damdreds database I'm glad I won't play again after this. Yesterday you made it clear it was poe, and you in fact still are stuck on a poe of me and shining and you are trying to shape your ideas around that. I've given my reads or attempted to start converstions to give them but I don't feel like playing in a game where the inevitable end is staring me in the face while you the confirmed town ignore the other afks or people unwilling to so things instead focusing on the newb who tried this game. Rels scum mvp This is a huge overreaction over 1 vote on you and 1 other person chiming in saying you have been starting to look scummy especially since they had valid reasons to why to think you could be scum. A reaction this big is either a noob town shocked that someone called you out for being scummy when people were reading you town earlier or a scum just trying to make a big deal out of this shit to cause chaos. Then you continue to overreact on simple questions on Rels and keep defending yourself and telling Rels stuff like he can't have your reads. Then you go back to tunneling ES after the last time you mentioned she was town because me and SL are scummmates and me and ES cant be together. This is why I think GB and Boxer are the safer vote today because you have done stuff that makes me think you could be scum. Comparing filters to ES, ES looks scummier than yours especially when I chalk some of what you posted recently to being a noob and overreacting to much but the chances are still their and I think its better to kill Boxer/GB | ||
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Vonthin
United States2864 Posts
On October 25 2015 11:37 The Shining wrote: Vonthins filter is super short, too. And I just noticed an oddity in his filter. Vonthin mentions multiple times that he thinks ES is his top scum multiple times and more likely to flip scum than Farrah. But he never actually votes ES past D1 and begins to go at it with Farrah, while it looks like he tries to convince Farrah she's scum. But his top scum ES is only going after Farrah and nothing else. So he thinks ES is more scummy? But Farrah could be, also? So he wants to take the "safe" route in GB/BF, after BF cases GB instead of trying to figure out their alignments. And he calls out Farrah for tunneling one townie all game and that's what makes her scummy. But ES only has the one scumread in Farrah. Inconsistency. And he calls the BF case a bus attempt even though it's highly unlikely scum is going to bus in lylo instead of going for the win. This guy is probably scum, too. Obviously I want to go the safe route when if we mislynch the wrong person we lose the game. I only started to go at it with Farah when she started to do some scummy things which brought up some doubts in my mind about ES. Look at the reasons I listed and look at her filter starting from last night and tell me there isn't a lot of posts that don't look scummy besides the tunneling which can be a strat for some scum too. The odds are definitely in ES's favor for being scum I would say 7 to 3 but I'm not willing to risk a 30% chance of losing the game when Boxer and GB are more likely to be scum. As for the GB/BF bus call, I don't see how its not a bad play for scum. Have 1 person bus when you still have 2 left try to get towncred by making a solid case even more solid to get the wagon rolling hard, hell GB even said that BF could be town after making the case on him and he thought BF was scummy before that. Also I don't know how I can be scum with ES just because I havn't voted for her since Day 1 and won't vote for her today because I think there is a small chance Farah could be scum instead. When the Day 1 wagons were equal I gave ES the go ahead vote and I have thought she has been scum since the start of the game. Farah herself said I can't be scum with ES On October 24 2015 03:17 sicklucker wrote: Farah whats your folder say on me. and how have you used this folder to reach your read that i am scum? also how can both vonthin and eversince be mafia? (for the 6th time im asking) On October 24 2015 03:20 FarahBlackwing wrote: Not answering, if you want the answer on that talk to damdred. obviously I didn't know terminology before I looked it up or I wouldn't have a reddit link available upon request. they aren't probably its you vont and someone else. I am voting for GB now, will switch if we can get enough Boxer votes if you guys want to vote for him instead #Vote GlowingBear | ||
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Vonthin
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##unvote ##Vote Boxerfred | ||
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Vonthin
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Also ES you have been just counter tunneling Farah the whole game so I don't know how you can say that lol Farahs point is correct about lynching the RB but I think the chances are just as good for GB to be the RB as ES | ||
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Vonthin
United States2864 Posts
On October 26 2015 01:58 GlowingBear wrote: Dude if we MISLYNCH today the game is over I know that, what I am trying to say is that a real doctor would never claim like he did and that we shouldn't believe him and vote for FF. If BF was the real doctor he would just say silent and push for the easier scum cases like you or ES/Farah an try to save people at night | ||
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Vonthin
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BF fake claim to protect GB and ES by him trying to make the discussion about FF and Farah and away from GB whose vote count was currently 4-2. Also GB the vote count was wrong, you probably would know that if you have read BFs post and filter especially since he is the main scum target right now. | ||
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Vonthin
United States2864 Posts
On October 26 2015 04:19 GlowingBear wrote: Let me ask you guys a question. A nice one. If the setup is veteran and vigi, why does mafia shoot SL instead of Rels? SLs main scum reads were myself and Farah who are both town. Killing SL will give the scum more ammo to lynch us today so they can win the game. | ||
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