EPT[M][N] Mini Mafia: The (kinda) Vanilla Experience - Page 137
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ritoky
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Blazinghand
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On October 28 2015 09:39 gumshoe wrote: and I am not asking for thier specific reason, just the truth that naturally goes along with thier shot They shot rayn, which obviously means what? so.... rayn was... not gonna be mislynched? | ||
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gumshoe
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On October 28 2015 09:41 Blazinghand wrote: so.... rayn was... not gonna be mislynched? BOOM give the man a cookie. | ||
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ritoky
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gumshoe
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ritoky
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Blazinghand
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so, wait, I don't understand. clearly you're not saying rayn was scum and therefore lynching him wouldn't be a mislynch. You're saying... what, that he was unlikely to get lynched? That was true of several people, especially you and me, but basically anyone but GB H1 and 1G. | ||
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Blazinghand
United States25563 Posts
Like I really don't see how this is a useful piece of information, or what this deduction is. | ||
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gumshoe
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On October 28 2015 09:46 Blazinghand wrote: Like I really don't see how this is a useful piece of information, or what this deduction is. the deduction is this, scum with thier 3 votes, and the existing town support of 2-3 voteswas so sure that they could not ensure a rayn mislynch that they killed him for some other reason. But the sure they could not kill bit is the important part. The argument against Rayn was static, you ethier thought rayn could be a dick as mafia, or couldnt. You come down one way, and god help you if you flop the other later on to get rayn lynched, only to have him flip green / : | ||
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gumshoe
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scum were never going to be poised to capitalize on the ire rayn earned from town. Why did they specifically kill him? Dont know, but if there was any chance for them to mislynch him, I dont think they would, which means voting him would require several scum players reversing thier rayn reads for no good reason / : which would result in thier surefire lynch soon after. | ||
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gumshoe
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On October 28 2015 09:45 ritoky wrote: that's a particularly weird and bad conclusion coming from you. because you or i would have been the shot if going by not gonna be ML'd people long before rayn. rayn at least had some potential left. RIGHT. scum NEED mislynches, they would not shoot rayn unless a mislynch on him wasnt possible at all / : which is silly, because rayn was clearly the easiest to mislynch right? you me bh xata vivax chrom, none of us are even remotley as close as rayn was to getting burned. Which means that there was some other reason they felt he couldn't be mislynched, Thier are 2 major factors to pulling off a mislnych 1) how much do the townies suspect the fellow 2) how poised are mafia to pounce on him without looking scummy as hell. We can pretty reliably rule out factor 1 as the case, which means it almost has to be factor 2 / : | ||
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gumshoe
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Onegu I didnt and dont like his push on rayn. I pointed out why rayn was town and he said that what i said pointed to rayn being mafia not town and it didnt. hopeles im basically never going to vote for Xata or Rayn (maybe rayn in lylo) they're my top town No need to think about it too much honestly, staying the course should work out fine : P just take this as a bit of a confidence booster in todays lynch XD | ||
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GlowingBear
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I didn't read a lot of posts. Anything in particular you want answered? | ||
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ritoky
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On October 28 2015 10:58 GlowingBear wrote: I didn't read a lot of posts. Anything in particular you want answered? On October 28 2015 05:02 ritoky wrote: yo GB, you here? On October 28 2015 05:16 ritoky wrote: outside of vivax have your reads changed since the last read post? i mean i am assuming you read it since you were directly responding to me.... | ||
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ritoky
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On October 28 2015 10:18 gumshoe wrote: For refrence here are onegu and Hopeless's views on Rayn atm. Onegu hopeles No need to think about it too much honestly, staying the course should work out fine : P just take this as a bit of a confidence booster in todays lynch XD ?????? wat are you doing? | ||
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GlowingBear
Brazil12446 Posts
On October 28 2015 11:14 ritoky wrote: i mean i am assuming you read it since you were directly responding to me.... I've read the first, I didn't see the second. No, it didn't evolve. The only thing that changed is that it makes me more suspicious of you since the NK is clearly for wifom and you live to do wifom kills. | ||
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ritoky
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ritoky
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On October 26 2015 08:15 GlowingBear wrote: Yes, I've tried to read him coming from a townie perspective. He could be town? Yes, but I'm fairly certain he isn't. I have you as town for filter length and activity, you seem to care about the game which is the towniest trait one can have right now. I have chromatically as town, still. I find hard to believe any scum would put so much effort into writing a scum case on you and me, reading filters and shit. I think Rayn can be mafia but his rage quit is giving me pause. Nonetheless, his flip on me + slam's read on him all points out to him being mafia. I don't trust his rage on slam very much because, well, he knows how slam plays and slam was actually being productive - but productive against Rayn. I am very suspicious of Onegu. I will always think he is a good lynch. Hopeless has some townie posts but some of them are too similar to Avogadro's mini mafia. I think gumshoe might be town just because he is defending me. I can't see mafia motivation behind defending me. Now that yamato is extremely unproductive I can see him being scum. As I said, yamato is one of the players that we can have better reads on later days. And here we are. I don't know what to do with BH. Some of his posts seems very townie, others seems like fluff. I particularly dislike his "eternal dining" posts. On the other hand, I think the has being thinking about the game critically, so he is probably town. I don't know if I forgot someone. | ||
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GlowingBear
Brazil12446 Posts
Yes. Not yamato, cause his dead | ||
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Chromatically
United States1700 Posts
Seriously though, I think the kill can be interpreted so many different ways. People have said that it means that mafia killed someone irrelevant because they're happy with the way things are going (meaning current targets are town). But it could also mean that mafia wanted to kill someone confusing because they want to mix things up (meaning current targets are mafia). But it could also mean that they knew we'd think that they were happy with things, or that they knew we'd think they wanted to mix it up, etc etc WIFOM. It's like double WIFOM. It makes me a little scared, but it's irrational at this point I think. On October 28 2015 05:42 ritoky wrote: chroma, people who don't make sense might just be mafia. it doesn't matter, you, me, or gumdrop is getting shot in a little bit here. The thing is, if Xatalos is mafia, he's playing the mafia game of his life right now, by a long shot. And I really don't see that as being more likely than the simple answer of the scummiest people in the thread (GB Onegu Hopeless). Occam's razor or something. I should probably take another close look at Vivax and maybe BH just to make sure that I'm not missing something big, but at this point I don't really see a reason to believe that. | ||
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