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gumshoe
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada3602 Posts
October 27 2015 22:27 GMT
#2661
wtf
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gumshoe
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada3602 Posts
October 27 2015 22:27 GMT
#2662
this is like, absolutely beyond me. Lynching rayn here is insane.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25552 Posts
October 27 2015 22:30 GMT
#2663
On October 28 2015 07:27 gumshoe wrote:
this is like, absolutely beyond me. Lynching rayn here is insane.


yeah, many people were scumreading rayn and, on top of that, he was contributing almost nothing (and in fact anti-contributing whenever he was having a shitfest/ rage fury).

I am loathe to speculate on NK outcomes, because of all the ways it can be WIFOM (And it often literally is) but, does perhaps this mean scum is happy with the current arrangment of lynches? I can't imagine any reason to silence rayn, except perhaps to make town operate a bit more smoothly on its current path
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25552 Posts
October 27 2015 22:32 GMT
#2664
I'm going to take a break and think on this for a bit. It might be something clever, or maybe not.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25552 Posts
October 27 2015 22:32 GMT
#2665
for now, though:

##vote: onegu
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gumshoe
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada3602 Posts
October 27 2015 22:34 GMT
#2666
"you know we should kill bh, but fuck it, I really dont wanna to play another day with Rayn"

Is the only explanation that makes sense to me...

I cant believe rayns bitchy play came full circle and actually HELPED town. He was was such a bother for both factions that he wound up functioning as an honorary BG for Bh...wow, just wow.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25552 Posts
October 27 2015 22:38 GMT
#2667
On October 28 2015 07:34 gumshoe wrote:
"you know we should kill bh, but fuck it, I really dont wanna to play another day with Rayn"

Is the only explanation that makes sense to me...

I cant believe rayns bitchy play came full circle and actually HELPED town. He was was such a bother for both factions that he wound up functioning as an honorary BG for Bh...wow, just wow.


Like, in a way, I'm really happy rayn is dead, even if it means one more townie is gone. it means we don't have to listen to him any more. He somehow took a bullet! Thanks, rayn. Thanks for being dead. Even better, he can't respond here when I say: rayn, it's so good that you're dead. so good.

hue
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gumshoe
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada3602 Posts
October 27 2015 22:56 GMT
#2668
voting Onegu is perfectly fine. Earlier I was thinking kill Gb today, cause scum would shoot confirmed townies till lylo, and if our lynch menu was preset, it would be best to get the sketchy one out of the way first while there are still active townies around to disect it, but It's best if we dont waste our mislynch right now if scum insist on shooting weird ass targets, and between gb, hope and onegu gb is most likely to flip green so yeah.

##Vote Onegu
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Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
October 27 2015 22:56 GMT
#2669
What... the.... fuck?
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
October 27 2015 23:00 GMT
#2670
Well I guess they either just wanted to improve their own enjoyment of the game... Or maybe there's some deeper reason? Like GB/ritoky are scum or scum wanted to frame them? Dunno...
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
October 27 2015 23:01 GMT
#2671
This means that marv was right on rayn though.... And now I have to listen to him :/
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25552 Posts
October 27 2015 23:01 GMT
#2672
On October 28 2015 08:00 Xatalos wrote:
Well I guess they either just wanted to improve their own enjoyment of the game... Or maybe there's some deeper reason? Like GB/ritoky are scum or scum wanted to frame them? Dunno...


A theory bouncing around in my head is scum saw me gearing up to lynch 1Gu and thought "good". I don't feel like I should abandon my legitimate scumread just based on that, though.
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gumshoe
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada3602 Posts
October 27 2015 23:04 GMT
#2673
On October 28 2015 07:56 Xatalos wrote:
What... the.... fuck?


I Know 0_0 its hard not to overthink this.

I think the onegu, gb, hopeless train was pretty set last night. If scum liked that lineup, they wouldnt have done anything to rock the boat is my guess.

This shot makes me think scum wanted us to read into it and alter course? maybe? Unless the reasoning was the trolly one I mentioned earlier XD

Ironically I feel a bit better about the direction town is taking, so barring something crazy, my vote is safe where it is.
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Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
October 27 2015 23:04 GMT
#2674
Hm.... Well in a way this does implicate GB I guess....

Let's just have wagons on Onegu and GB for today? I think there should be at least one scum among them and this way scum have to make some hard choices.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
gumshoe
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada3602 Posts
October 27 2015 23:05 GMT
#2675
On October 28 2015 08:01 Xatalos wrote:
This means that marv was right on rayn though.... And now I have to listen to him :/


screw listening to marv, listen to me XD unless its about Yamato / :
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25552 Posts
October 27 2015 23:08 GMT
#2676
On October 28 2015 08:04 gumshoe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2015 07:56 Xatalos wrote:
What... the.... fuck?


I Know 0_0 its hard not to overthink this.

I think the onegu, gb, hopeless train was pretty set last night. If scum liked that lineup, they wouldnt have done anything to rock the boat is my guess.

This shot makes me think scum wanted us to read into it and alter course? maybe? Unless the reasoning was the trolly one I mentioned earlier XD

Ironically I feel a bit better about the direction town is taking, so barring something crazy, my vote is safe where it is.


Yeah so like there's two theories here.

Theory 1. The H1 1G GB wagon train was running strong. Scum looks at this and is like "this a great train. Let's let it run" and shoot rayn. Probably rayn rather than someone else who's not a leader cause a silent rayn is a significantly more pleasant rayn.

Theory 2. The H1 1G GB wagon train is running strong, and cannot be stopped no matter what. Scum figure their only chance is to confuse us by acting like they like the train and shooting someone irrelevant. They shoot rayn since, obviously, a silent rayn is an infinitely more pleasant rayn.

I think our best strategy is to assume that Theory 2 is correct and push forward with lynches on those guys today. I feel confident in my reads, and my VCA supports that as a possibility, especially 1Gu. If it turns out we're wrong on this, we can revisit things, since we have one more mislynch of breathing room. I don't think the right response here is to undo all our scumreads.
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Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
October 27 2015 23:10 GMT
#2677
On October 28 2015 08:05 gumshoe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2015 08:01 Xatalos wrote:
This means that marv was right on rayn though.... And now I have to listen to him :/


screw listening to marv, listen to me XD unless its about Yamato / :


Haha well, it looks like everything would have gone for the better if I had just assumed marv and rayn as non-lynchable for D1-D2. They're likely NK targets anyway if town so not a lot of reason to lynch them early on. That's what I usually did before, but I started to maybe become unnecessarily wary of them due to some recent games... Well, should prolly just go back to ignoring them early on..
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
October 27 2015 23:13 GMT
#2678
On October 28 2015 08:08 Blazinghand wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2015 08:04 gumshoe wrote:
On October 28 2015 07:56 Xatalos wrote:
What... the.... fuck?


I Know 0_0 its hard not to overthink this.

I think the onegu, gb, hopeless train was pretty set last night. If scum liked that lineup, they wouldnt have done anything to rock the boat is my guess.

This shot makes me think scum wanted us to read into it and alter course? maybe? Unless the reasoning was the trolly one I mentioned earlier XD

Ironically I feel a bit better about the direction town is taking, so barring something crazy, my vote is safe where it is.


Yeah so like there's two theories here.

Theory 1. The H1 1G GB wagon train was running strong. Scum looks at this and is like "this a great train. Let's let it run" and shoot rayn. Probably rayn rather than someone else who's not a leader cause a silent rayn is a significantly more pleasant rayn.

Theory 2. The H1 1G GB wagon train is running strong, and cannot be stopped no matter what. Scum figure their only chance is to confuse us by acting like they like the train and shooting someone irrelevant. They shoot rayn since, obviously, a silent rayn is an infinitely more pleasant rayn.

I think our best strategy is to assume that Theory 2 is correct and push forward with lynches on those guys today. I feel confident in my reads, and my VCA supports that as a possibility, especially 1Gu. If it turns out we're wrong on this, we can revisit things, since we have one more mislynch of breathing room. I don't think the right response here is to undo all our scumreads.


LOL great reasoning

Anyways, I agree, we should probably lynch Onegu today... Or perhaps GB/hopeless, but I think hopeless could be town and maybe GB as well... Well, I won't be sad if either of them disappears.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
October 27 2015 23:14 GMT
#2679
So basically lynching into the trio should be fine for today, and quite likely to hit scum.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
October 27 2015 23:15 GMT
#2680
I wonder... rayn's death kind of implicates GB though... Since he was one of the pro-Onegu, anti-GB faction... :/
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
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