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GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-10-16 11:32:17
October 16 2015 11:30 GMT
#1161
On October 16 2015 16:19 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 16 2015 10:30 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Well Rels had some really scummy shit like "If you two guys dont talk i am gonna lynch you".
then Onegu says "sorry bro no"
Rels: "okay, well i am gonna lynch this bitch who wants to lynch me"


LOL yeah. Didn't want to lynch my buddy right ? p:

There is an explanation though. Just before I want to sleep, CopCake implied GB and Xata were scum together. It didn't make sense. Of course it didn't make her mafia, but town!Rels obviously didn't see that. p:
Yeah scum!Rels is really more tunneled than town!Rels.


Some mafia resorts on unflipped association just because it is an easier way to fabricate reads. The fact that she scum read you and connected me to you, but went against ME instead of you was very scummy. Then she makes us mafia with Xatalos. And calls me mafia for "knowing she doesn't play like that as mafia" just because we played a game together. It WAS scummy and it is pretty damn telling it was, because 9 people voted her. And if any veteran come here and say it was town's fault, not hers, I must say that your hypocrisy reached a surprisingly high level.

For the record, I'm not berating her, I'm defending the lynch on her this time, which wasn't bad AT ALL
I'm adorable.
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
October 16 2015 11:46 GMT
#1162
On October 16 2015 16:33 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 07 2015 08:21 MoosyDoosy wrote:
I now know how to read the Rels. Prepare for the tunnel in the next game we play together and you roll scum.

So ... now that it's proven false, care to tell me what it was ? p:

On October 16 2015 14:30 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Would never have guessed slam and onegu. :/ was right about decon and I did have a gut feeling about Rels earlier. goddamn I need to keep on following my gut on Rels from here on out.

"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
October 16 2015 12:36 GMT
#1163
Dunno really, tbh I would probably lynch CopCake again. Not sure why rayn says that I should have realized her alignment as I don't really know her meta too well and her actions were very... impossible to understand for town. I guess it's a point for her that she didn't really even care about her own fate. But she might have been the Groupie or something (meaning that there's not as much danger even if she ended up dying). I've also seen scum do some crazy/risky stuff before (Regy...).

Tictock: yeah that "3 games in a row" thing was probably the worst reason for a read I've ever seen You should note that it's exactly equally likely for someone to roll scum regardless of their previous roles haha... Sorry that I didn't respond to you properly, but I guess I was just a bit annoyed by the constant push and had some doubt about your motivations as well so...

I think I would have been able to do something D2, but this game was just very difficult for me for some reason or another. And Slam... really, I guess I'll never be able to read him. gobble/Onegu were possible lynches for me though so maybe I would have noticed them better during D2. Rels played well too and fooled me initially with the high effort.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-10-16 12:44:05
October 16 2015 12:42 GMT
#1164
On October 16 2015 20:30 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 16 2015 16:19 Rels wrote:
On October 16 2015 10:30 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Well Rels had some really scummy shit like "If you two guys dont talk i am gonna lynch you".
then Onegu says "sorry bro no"
Rels: "okay, well i am gonna lynch this bitch who wants to lynch me"


LOL yeah. Didn't want to lynch my buddy right ? p:

There is an explanation though. Just before I want to sleep, CopCake implied GB and Xata were scum together. It didn't make sense. Of course it didn't make her mafia, but town!Rels obviously didn't see that. p:
Yeah scum!Rels is really more tunneled than town!Rels.


Some mafia resorts on unflipped association just because it is an easier way to fabricate reads. The fact that she scum read you and connected me to you, but went against ME instead of you was very scummy. Then she makes us mafia with Xatalos. And calls me mafia for "knowing she doesn't play like that as mafia" just because we played a game together. It WAS scummy and it is pretty damn telling it was, because 9 people voted her. And if any veteran come here and say it was town's fault, not hers, I must say that your hypocrisy reached a surprisingly high level.

For the record, I'm not berating her, I'm defending the lynch on her this time, which wasn't bad AT ALL

Yeah but I thought she was town for the way she was behaving, totally different from the firefly game. I mean, if rayn had done exactly that, he was scum 100%; but not copcake. But that's a meta thing, I agree she was rightfully the lynch if we discard meta.

And she was 100% right about Slam. The way he handled the lynch made him 100% scum, I don't know how we all missed it somehow. "copcake is 100% town! Not gonna do anything about it though. Not even cause a no lynch to avoid lynching town." Super different from TT's and Koshi's "not sure about Copcake but I guess there are weird things about her"
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
October 16 2015 12:50 GMT
#1165
On October 16 2015 21:42 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 16 2015 20:30 GlowingBear wrote:
On October 16 2015 16:19 Rels wrote:
On October 16 2015 10:30 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Well Rels had some really scummy shit like "If you two guys dont talk i am gonna lynch you".
then Onegu says "sorry bro no"
Rels: "okay, well i am gonna lynch this bitch who wants to lynch me"


LOL yeah. Didn't want to lynch my buddy right ? p:

There is an explanation though. Just before I want to sleep, CopCake implied GB and Xata were scum together. It didn't make sense. Of course it didn't make her mafia, but town!Rels obviously didn't see that. p:
Yeah scum!Rels is really more tunneled than town!Rels.


Some mafia resorts on unflipped association just because it is an easier way to fabricate reads. The fact that she scum read you and connected me to you, but went against ME instead of you was very scummy. Then she makes us mafia with Xatalos. And calls me mafia for "knowing she doesn't play like that as mafia" just because we played a game together. It WAS scummy and it is pretty damn telling it was, because 9 people voted her. And if any veteran come here and say it was town's fault, not hers, I must say that your hypocrisy reached a surprisingly high level.

For the record, I'm not berating her, I'm defending the lynch on her this time, which wasn't bad AT ALL

Yeah but I thought she was town for the way she was behaving, totally different from the firefly game. I mean, if rayn had done exactly that, he was scum 100%; but not copcake. But that's a meta thing, I agree she was rightfully the lynch if we discard meta.

And she was 100% right about Slam. The way he handled the lynch made him 100% scum, I don't know how we all missed it somehow. "copcake is 100% town! Not gonna do anything about it though. Not even cause a no lynch to avoid lynching town." Super different from TT's and Koshi's "not sure about Copcake but I guess there are weird things about her"


Well, I didn't catch up the thread at that time since I was studying and doing an exam yesterday. I was going to catch up today lol
Koshi had a similar behaviour. That's why I said "Koshi tomorrow". He even ranted on people for having lynched her lol.

The fact that she was playing differently doesn't mean she wouldn't be mafia here. I usually play differently every couple of games regardless of alignment.

This time, for instance, I played a very straight forward game, and I don't usually do that as town.
I'm adorable.
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-10-16 12:52:04
October 16 2015 12:51 GMT
#1166
On October 16 2015 21:36 Xatalos wrote:
Dunno really, tbh I would probably lynch CopCake again. Not sure why rayn says that I should have realized her alignment as I don't really know her meta too well and her actions were very... impossible to understand for town. I guess it's a point for her that she didn't really even care about her own fate. But she might have been the Groupie or something (meaning that there's not as much danger even if she ended up dying). I've also seen scum do some crazy/risky stuff before (Regy...).

Tictock: yeah that "3 games in a row" thing was probably the worst reason for a read I've ever seen You should note that it's exactly equally likely for someone to roll scum regardless of their previous roles haha... Sorry that I didn't respond to you properly, but I guess I was just a bit annoyed by the constant push and had some doubt about your motivations as well so...

I think I would have been able to do something D2, but this game was just very difficult for me for some reason or another. And Slam... really, I guess I'll never be able to read him. gobble/Onegu were possible lynches for me though so maybe I would have noticed them better during D2. Rels played well too and fooled me initially with the high effort.


Slam is that kind of player that in later days you just know he is mafia/town
And by the way I think I may have discovered a tell? I'm happy
I'm adorable.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16324 Posts
October 16 2015 13:27 GMT
#1167
On October 16 2015 21:51 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 16 2015 21:36 Xatalos wrote:
Dunno really, tbh I would probably lynch CopCake again. Not sure why rayn says that I should have realized her alignment as I don't really know her meta too well and her actions were very... impossible to understand for town. I guess it's a point for her that she didn't really even care about her own fate. But she might have been the Groupie or something (meaning that there's not as much danger even if she ended up dying). I've also seen scum do some crazy/risky stuff before (Regy...).

Tictock: yeah that "3 games in a row" thing was probably the worst reason for a read I've ever seen You should note that it's exactly equally likely for someone to roll scum regardless of their previous roles haha... Sorry that I didn't respond to you properly, but I guess I was just a bit annoyed by the constant push and had some doubt about your motivations as well so...

I think I would have been able to do something D2, but this game was just very difficult for me for some reason or another. And Slam... really, I guess I'll never be able to read him. gobble/Onegu were possible lynches for me though so maybe I would have noticed them better during D2. Rels played well too and fooled me initially with the high effort.


Slam is that kind of player that in later days you just know he is mafia/town
And by the way I think I may have discovered a tell? I'm happy

No, slam is the kind of player that everyone claims to be able to read when in reality those people really aren't.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
October 16 2015 13:27 GMT
#1168
MAN
SOME PEOPLE HERE MIGHT BE INTERESTED TO KNOW THAT ISAAC WILL GET A NEW UPDATE SUPER SOON

http://store.steampowered.com/app/401920/

SUPER HYPED
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
October 16 2015 13:42 GMT
#1169
On October 16 2015 22:27 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 16 2015 21:51 GlowingBear wrote:
On October 16 2015 21:36 Xatalos wrote:
Dunno really, tbh I would probably lynch CopCake again. Not sure why rayn says that I should have realized her alignment as I don't really know her meta too well and her actions were very... impossible to understand for town. I guess it's a point for her that she didn't really even care about her own fate. But she might have been the Groupie or something (meaning that there's not as much danger even if she ended up dying). I've also seen scum do some crazy/risky stuff before (Regy...).

Tictock: yeah that "3 games in a row" thing was probably the worst reason for a read I've ever seen You should note that it's exactly equally likely for someone to roll scum regardless of their previous roles haha... Sorry that I didn't respond to you properly, but I guess I was just a bit annoyed by the constant push and had some doubt about your motivations as well so...

I think I would have been able to do something D2, but this game was just very difficult for me for some reason or another. And Slam... really, I guess I'll never be able to read him. gobble/Onegu were possible lynches for me though so maybe I would have noticed them better during D2. Rels played well too and fooled me initially with the high effort.


Slam is that kind of player that in later days you just know he is mafia/town
And by the way I think I may have discovered a tell? I'm happy

No, slam is the kind of player that everyone claims to be able to read when in reality those people really aren't.


I've always been right on slam in late games.
Always
I'm adorable.
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
October 16 2015 13:42 GMT
#1170
On October 16 2015 22:27 Rels wrote:
MAN
SOME PEOPLE HERE MIGHT BE INTERESTED TO KNOW THAT ISAAC WILL GET A NEW UPDATE SUPER SOON

http://store.steampowered.com/app/401920/

SUPER HYPED


What is Isaac?
I'm adorable.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
October 16 2015 13:49 GMT
#1171
On October 16 2015 22:42 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 16 2015 22:27 Rels wrote:
MAN
SOME PEOPLE HERE MIGHT BE INTERESTED TO KNOW THAT ISAAC WILL GET A NEW UPDATE SUPER SOON

http://store.steampowered.com/app/401920/

SUPER HYPED


What is Isaac?

A great game. A super addictive roguelike made by the guy that made Super Meat Boy
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
October 16 2015 14:18 GMT
#1172
On October 16 2015 22:49 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 16 2015 22:42 GlowingBear wrote:
On October 16 2015 22:27 Rels wrote:
MAN
SOME PEOPLE HERE MIGHT BE INTERESTED TO KNOW THAT ISAAC WILL GET A NEW UPDATE SUPER SOON

http://store.steampowered.com/app/401920/

SUPER HYPED


What is Isaac?

A great game. A super addictive roguelike made by the guy that made Super Meat Boy


Watched a gameplay

Legend of Zelda meets Megaman
I'm adorable.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
October 16 2015 22:30 GMT
#1173
On October 16 2015 14:45 geript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 16 2015 08:25 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Okay the thing is, the way i designed this game is that the Groupie gets outed if they use they jan unsuccesfully. This is what happened. I don't read my OWN FUCKING SETUP because it's MINE. But because of shit TL rules i CANT HOST A GAME, i have to have a host. geript apparently took that VITAL part of one role out of the setup..

Bleh, i don't even wanna continue this shit. Fuck it all.

Did I? Sorry. I thought I was the one who came up with that. I think that was something we talked about and I didn't send you the updated OP posts because I got busy w/ work. Sorry

I don't honestly remember if we decided that or not together.
We probably did. That was just the first thing that came to my mind.
Definitely not your fault.

I take full responsibility for the fuck up anyways.
My game.
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
October 16 2015 22:31 GMT
#1174
On October 16 2015 15:06 Tictock wrote:
1) Why can't rayn host his own game? I've never understood that.

because of the dumb TL mafia rules can't let you host games unless you have co-hosted.
So i had to have a "host" for me to "co-host".
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
October 16 2015 22:35 GMT
#1175
On October 16 2015 15:06 Tictock wrote:
2) This game took what, 2-3 weeks to start? I understand that maybe getting everything together was a bit rushed, but that's a ton of time to have had to double check.

No it wasn't rushed.
I had it all together since i have designed this setup by myself.

I probably just forgot some things we decided with geript about the Groupie role (as it was different before).

You are right in that i should have double checked, i didn't, because i "was sure that's how it is" (although i forgot to mention that gobble was outed in the daypost already). Not gonna defend myself, i just fucked up and it may have / may not have lead to some things (like deconduo claiming) and then i realized the game is invalid already.

*sigh*
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
October 16 2015 22:42 GMT
#1176
On October 16 2015 16:29 Rels wrote:
rayn and geript, no prob, thanks for hosting. It is a fun setup, would play again (=

rayn though, you have a "no host interaction policy", and I feel you mod-confirmed a few people as not crossfire, especially Koshi:
Show nested quote +
On October 16 2015 08:17 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On October 16 2015 08:16 Koshi wrote:
I also should be reading the OP apparently.

Yes you should.


Any reason the gobble flip wasn't made in the day post ?

I decided to end the game already before i made that post towards Koshi.

The reason was because i fucked up, twice.
table for two on a tv tray
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-10-17 00:47:48
October 17 2015 00:46 GMT
#1177
On October 16 2015 21:42 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 16 2015 20:30 GlowingBear wrote:
On October 16 2015 16:19 Rels wrote:
On October 16 2015 10:30 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Well Rels had some really scummy shit like "If you two guys dont talk i am gonna lynch you".
then Onegu says "sorry bro no"
Rels: "okay, well i am gonna lynch this bitch who wants to lynch me"


LOL yeah. Didn't want to lynch my buddy right ? p:

There is an explanation though. Just before I want to sleep, CopCake implied GB and Xata were scum together. It didn't make sense. Of course it didn't make her mafia, but town!Rels obviously didn't see that. p:
Yeah scum!Rels is really more tunneled than town!Rels.


Some mafia resorts on unflipped association just because it is an easier way to fabricate reads. The fact that she scum read you and connected me to you, but went against ME instead of you was very scummy. Then she makes us mafia with Xatalos. And calls me mafia for "knowing she doesn't play like that as mafia" just because we played a game together. It WAS scummy and it is pretty damn telling it was, because 9 people voted her. And if any veteran come here and say it was town's fault, not hers, I must say that your hypocrisy reached a surprisingly high level.

For the record, I'm not berating her, I'm defending the lynch on her this time, which wasn't bad AT ALL

Yeah but I thought she was town for the way she was behaving, totally different from the firefly game. I mean, if rayn had done exactly that, he was scum 100%; but not copcake. But that's a meta thing, I agree she was rightfully the lynch if we discard meta.

And she was 100% right about Slam. The way he handled the lynch made him 100% scum, I don't know how we all missed it somehow. "copcake is 100% town! Not gonna do anything about it though. Not even cause a no lynch to avoid lynching town." Super different from TT's and Koshi's "not sure about Copcake but I guess there are weird things about her"

What would you have had me do?

I actually preferred a Moosy lynch at the time because I thought she was crossfire.

I legit couldn't have done more, you all were tunneled. As town I would have had just as little time, and said the exact same thing (except I would have been trying to lynch Koshi instead)
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
October 17 2015 00:50 GMT
#1178
On October 16 2015 22:42 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 16 2015 22:27 justanothertownie wrote:
On October 16 2015 21:51 GlowingBear wrote:
On October 16 2015 21:36 Xatalos wrote:
Dunno really, tbh I would probably lynch CopCake again. Not sure why rayn says that I should have realized her alignment as I don't really know her meta too well and her actions were very... impossible to understand for town. I guess it's a point for her that she didn't really even care about her own fate. But she might have been the Groupie or something (meaning that there's not as much danger even if she ended up dying). I've also seen scum do some crazy/risky stuff before (Regy...).

Tictock: yeah that "3 games in a row" thing was probably the worst reason for a read I've ever seen You should note that it's exactly equally likely for someone to roll scum regardless of their previous roles haha... Sorry that I didn't respond to you properly, but I guess I was just a bit annoyed by the constant push and had some doubt about your motivations as well so...

I think I would have been able to do something D2, but this game was just very difficult for me for some reason or another. And Slam... really, I guess I'll never be able to read him. gobble/Onegu were possible lynches for me though so maybe I would have noticed them better during D2. Rels played well too and fooled me initially with the high effort.


Slam is that kind of player that in later days you just know he is mafia/town
And by the way I think I may have discovered a tell? I'm happy

No, slam is the kind of player that everyone claims to be able to read when in reality those people really aren't.


I've always been right on slam in late games.
Always

Truths. JaT is right but GB can because I can only hold so long
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
October 17 2015 04:56 GMT
#1179
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
October 18 2015 21:17 GMT
#1180
What is the best way to find the secret room? I always thought it is the room connected to the most other rooms. But it has proven false a couple tiems already.
I had a good night of sleep.
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