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On October 15 2015 07:51 Xatalos wrote:Show nested quote +On October 15 2015 07:49 Tictock wrote:On October 15 2015 07:44 Xatalos wrote: For example, right now CopCake could easily get no-lynched if just one switches away. I'd appreciate people ensuring the lynch before the deadline. Thanks.
If you prefer MoosyDoosy, state quickly why? I've explained my reasons a few times. Moosy's only read push has been on Sup and his read was based on shit he berated Rels for being. Cops reads are wierd but thy haev evolved, shes challenged people. Well yeah MoosyDoosy's reads are terrible, but so are CopCake's.... And I'd expect CopCake to be the better one out of them, all things equal. Granted I've only seen scum!CopCake before and she was better than this even there.
If you mean her last scum game here then yes, thats kinda my line of thinking as well.
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On October 15 2015 07:53 CopCake wrote: No I want to die so you can see how fucking terrible you are.
Then next game when I am town you will all respect me.
This is a terrible frame of mind.
I know it sucks but you still gotta play to some win condition.
I might be saying this because I really regret the last time I threw up my hands and went "fuck it"
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Well, seems like you have enough.
;lurk;
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On October 15 2015 08:05 Xatalos wrote: At least CopCake was VT and it would have been impossible at LYLO with her anyway, at this rate.
Scum, plz.
Bad lynch was bad.
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On October 15 2015 08:50 MoosyDoosy wrote: I will get CPR’d and the VT count goes down 1 more! Mafia and 3p have fun in their group chats. mmm…
Superbia, what did you expect my town play to be like? As logical as my scum play? I am the sson of Chupazi. I thrive off of chaos.
The problem is Moosy, I have seen you do nothing like thrive.
You are super lurky, have shit teir reads, and dont seem to care to even try and interact.
None of this is excused by your promise to not spam btw.
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On October 15 2015 09:40 gobbledydook wrote:Show nested quote +On October 15 2015 09:31 MoosyDoosy wrote:On October 15 2015 09:27 gobbledydook wrote:On October 15 2015 08:50 MoosyDoosy wrote: I will get CPR’d and the VT count goes down 1 more! Mafia and 3p have fun in their group chats. mmm…
Superbia, what did you expect my town play to be like? As logical as my scum play? I am the sson of Chupazi. I thrive off of chaos. Koshi can't control the scum or the CPR why are you so scared?????? ? Do I look scared? You look like someone who is too afraid to die Not quite the VT?
This doesn't seem like an objective view of moosy's play. Least it's more or less the opposite of my opinion.
I'd be interested to see what posts lead you to say this.
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Tried to think about good night actions to suggest.
This shit gets messy quick though....
Good luck blues.
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On October 15 2015 22:10 Onegu wrote:Show nested quote +On October 15 2015 22:06 Rels wrote:On October 15 2015 18:51 Onegu wrote: Onegu confirmed awake and now slowly reading the thread. BTW I think Onegu is actually trolling us. That's several times he said "here catching up" and didn't do shit Working on it. And I did say slowly.
Humm, I don't like that you are bothering to read current stuff when you said you were catching up.
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On October 15 2015 23:37 Koshi wrote: The above post is asking you politely why you want to lynch Koshi except for the fact he wants to lynch Moosy-the fucking groupie-Doosy which nobody in this thread believes.
Actually...
My first gut instinct this game was that you might be Crossfire, and Moosy the groupie.
Still a possibility tbh, some of the pieces do fit. However, I mostly let the idea fall into tin-foil status for a variety of reasons.
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On October 16 2015 01:18 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On October 16 2015 01:08 Tictock wrote:On October 15 2015 22:10 Onegu wrote:On October 15 2015 22:06 Rels wrote:On October 15 2015 18:51 Onegu wrote: Onegu confirmed awake and now slowly reading the thread. BTW I think Onegu is actually trolling us. That's several times he said "here catching up" and didn't do shit Working on it. And I did say slowly. Humm, I don't like that you are bothering to read current stuff when you said you were catching up. I always disliked it as well. But it is something townies do. Not saying Onegu is town. He very well might be mafia.
Yea I'm not sure it says much about his alignment, but it's a bit weird to try and do both. Usually I see people either give up reading what they missed, or spend their time catching up responding to old stuff before getting to current conversation.
Trying to do both makes me think he'll end up doing neither very well.
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On October 16 2015 01:35 Koshi wrote: yes. Perfect tactic by me to kill the one person who gives me an edge over mafia team.
Yep it's fairly insane to even think of Crossfire trying that...
Yet, insanity and brilliance sometimes intermingle more than we care to admit.
After all, that would be a solid defense as to why you couldn't possibly be Crossfire if Moosy did flip groupie.
#TinFoilThoughts
+ Show Spoiler +None of this matters till one of you flips, pretty much why I didn't bring it up till now.
Though I do get town feels from Decoundo for reaching the same tin-foil as I did here.
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I was planning to make a couple of larger posts before EoN but not sure I'll have time to write up both before I have to head into work in ~ 3 hrs.
The more important post I was working on is almost done and I'll get that up here in an hour or so.
Taking a break for now.
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On October 16 2015 02:46 Onegu wrote: The thing I really don't like that you did tictock is halfway through the day you made a big post about setup, and it was this big post about nothing relevant.
I don't recall what post your talking about.
So your probably right, "nothing relevant"
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Time to try a little analysis.
Ok so most of the game besides Cake, Onegu, Slam, and myself were on Cake.
CopCake (9): deconduo, gobbledydook, Sylencia, Rels, GlowingBear, Xatalos, MoosyDoosy, Koshi, Superbia
Super's vote and EoD was pretty towny, so I'm not checkin him.
Koshi's vote is on that lv as well for different reasons (mostly just wanting to avoid no-lynch), otherwise he was on Moosy till last min.
I wanted to look at the reasons everyone else voted Cake, just in case I could spot any inconsistencies.
deconduo: He pretty much started the wagon (first to vote, not exactly the first to read Cake as scum) on Cake so thats a bit of a town point in his favor. He also was pretty clear how he got that read from his first real post in the game.
+ Show Spoiler [copcake] +On October 13 2015 13:37 CopCake wrote:Why do you need to write this? Show nested quote +On October 13 2015 10:21 gobbledydook wrote:On October 13 2015 08:52 Superbia wrote: I actually can't rly play atm. Be back later tomorrow probably. Don't like Moosy's reaction to Koshi. It is the first page Courteous greeting for Koshi You think he is scum? Hello anti town people GB is town Alakasamboombam is town Dont stop make it pop tik tok is town. On October 13 2015 13:40 CopCake wrote: Also Moosy naming me, idk how to take it.
##Superbia As Rels pointed out, it's a pretty big leap to make those town reads so early. AND claiming VT and voting based on a brb? Meh, to the bottom of the scumpile you go. Gonna vote for copcake based on the above. ##Vote: copcake[/b
He also posed questions and showed disappointment when Cake didn't respond.
Conclusion - Checks out
gobbledydook: Only made a couple of posts related to Cake before voting.
On October 13 2015 14:13 gobbledydook wrote: CopCake makes no sense he really should give reasons why I'm anti town.
On October 14 2015 08:15 gobbledydook wrote: Aus timezone sucks balls Copcake full of awful reads Guys let's kill him now
##vote: CopCake
Really there's nothing here to even try and get a glimpse at this guy's thought process. I mentioned this before, but it looks like he was suspicious of Cake and jumped on her wagon as soon as it looked like it had decent support. Hard as hell to say for sure though with like 0 thought process to look at.
Conclusion - WTF!?!
Sylencia: Talks about Cake a decent bit, pretty clearly focused on her for most of D1.
Here is your pack of quotes for him. + Show Spoiler +On October 13 2015 14:40 Sylencia wrote: The more haikus made The more I want to kill you JK, good gimmick
Also CopCake, how does that 1 line make Superbia anti-town? On October 13 2015 23:49 Sylencia wrote:
On October 13 2015 23:26 Xatalos wrote: Or overall what's your take on the recent events / main reads?
Reserving judgement based on recent events because I'm still processing it (read: I'm not trying very hard). Main read is CopCake anti-town because their reasoning baffles me (aka there is no reasoning) and I can't understand a train of process that goes:
Suspect A: 1 word brb Suspect B: Crap haiku
Suspect A gets the vote. On October 14 2015 08:41 Sylencia wrote: ##Vote CopCake
Posts post-return sound like they come from a 3rd party who's only worried about mafia team. Unlike a lot of other people who used the word "mafia" during this game, it doesn't have the same implication that it means mafia/3p. Not convinced at all by the reasoning too. On October 14 2015 20:05 Sylencia wrote: Anyways, given the swingy nature of the game I'm going to approach it 1-2 people at a time.
If CopCake doesn't go down for whatever reason, Onegu is next because no matter what role he is, he is a detriment to town. Given the initial disadvantage we have, losing a vote and a voice over a more active townie would be terrible.
The "shes using the word mafia in a way that implies she's 3p" idea seems pretty sketch to me, there is a bit of a read progression showing here though.
The part that jumps out to me as weird in these posts is how Syl calls Onegu "a detriment to town" regardless of alignment, yet writes off gobble as being cool for having a "good gimmick." I'll give gobble credit for actually post some thoughts, but it's hard to argue that his play is significantly different than Onegu's.
Conclusion - Probably ok but mildly suspect
Rels: I don't expect to find any inconsistencies here. Rels is a smart player as any alingment and while he can of course be wrong or get focused on the wrong things it's very unlikely that he will have any odd read changes as either alienment.
Anyways, Rels starts looking at Cake due to her early town reads. (Idk why but I but this post kept messing up when I quoted it here, it's in Rel's case anyways which I put in the next spoiler)
He was also the only person to post a case on Cake, but I'm not able to give town cred to Rels based on that. He's made solid cases as scum before. + Show Spoiler +On October 14 2015 18:09 Rels wrote:
The Copcake is not town compilation case
1. Her initial townreads have no basis Her initial townreads were:
On October 13 2015 13:37 CopCake wrote: GB is town Alakasamboombam is town Dont stop make it pop tik tok is town. The filters of these 3 people at the time were: GB's posts at the time: [spoiler]
On October 13 2015 09:50 GlowingBear wrote: O hai!
I'm thrall
On October 13 2015 10:37 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On October 13 2015 08:15 Koshi wrote: Town.
Going to go with a plynch all liars through the entire game. Will totally ruin the game because town are lying bitches. But I will do it.
If nobody lies I will use spidersenses.
4 antitown. Way too much anti town kp. First days are a joke.
If there are 9 townies who need to lynch 4 anti townies while these antitownies got 4 kp and are immune to the other antitownies their kp the game is a total joke.
There are also way to many blue roles. Blue roles with completely random effects based on the skill of the player.
So tbh. If I try and lynch anti town D1 I will just get rewarded with a bullet and anti town will start shooting town faster than we can lynch anti town. Doesn't make any fucking sense.
tldr 1: Koshi is going to do absolutely nothing the first days because the game looks like a joke. He might say some random shit about random people. He will appreciate it that when these random people are actually anti town that they won't shoot Koshi.
tldr2: Read tldr 1 You make things easier. ##vote: Koshi
On October 13 2015 10:44 GlowingBear wrote: Wow what a boring start [/spoiler] Slam's posts at the time: [spoiler]
On October 13 2015 09:02 Alakaslam wrote: Good afternoon. Koshi, sson
You gotta remember you even hate on your own balance work
On October 13 2015 09:06 Alakaslam wrote:I found the perfect corny cheese video for what I expect to happen here
On October 13 2015 10:59 Alakaslam wrote:Show nested quote +On October 13 2015 10:56 Tictock wrote:On October 13 2015 09:50 GlowingBear wrote: O hai!
I'm thrall I assume you are referring to ![[image loading]](http://static.giantbomb.com/uploads/original/15/152870/2684749-1410539-thrall.jpg) In which case you used the correct color. But since you didn't capitalize you could also mean one of these... ![[image loading]](https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRt_PoibxOyNa_BYVAoTAvv_OOeFS5OAMrKFDzN7RFcmP1Lt5bT) Or your telling us you are a slave or surf and have no social standing what-so-ever. In which case I can't be seen talking to you. Spoken with precision
On October 13 2015 11:34 Alakaslam wrote: What a dead thread!
Guess I will go really read and reread Koshi's dramas
On October 13 2015 11:54 Alakaslam wrote:Show nested quote +On October 13 2015 08:15 Koshi wrote: Town.
Going to go with a plynch all liars through the entire game. Will totally ruin the game because town are lying bitches. But I will do it.
If nobody lies I will use spidersenses.
4 antitown. Way too much anti town kp. First days are a joke.
If there are 9 townies who need to lynch 4 anti townies while these antitownies got 4 kp and are immune to the other antitownies their kp the game is a total joke.
There are also way to many blue roles. Blue roles with completely random effects based on the skill of the player.
So tbh. If I try and lynch anti town D1 I will just get rewarded with a bullet and anti town will start shooting town faster than we can lynch anti town. Doesn't make any fucking sense.
tldr 1: Koshi is going to do absolutely nothing the first days because the game looks like a joke. He might say some random shit about random people. He will appreciate it that when these random people are actually anti town that they won't shoot Koshi.
tldr2: Read tldr 1 This dude looks like a cop-out artist here Why What is the true motive for this post? [/spoiler] TT's posts at the time: [spoiler]
On October 13 2015 10:56 Tictock wrote:I assume you are referring to ![[image loading]](http://static.giantbomb.com/uploads/original/15/152870/2684749-1410539-thrall.jpg) In which case you used the correct color. But since you didn't capitalize you could also mean one of these... ![[image loading]](https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRt_PoibxOyNa_BYVAoTAvv_OOeFS5OAMrKFDzN7RFcmP1Lt5bT) Or your telling us you are a slave or surf and have no social standing what-so-ever. In which case I can't be seen talking to you.
On October 13 2015 11:17 Tictock wrote:So I was stupid today guys... I agreed to pickup an extra shift at work tomorrow morning  I'll poke in once or twice more before bed, but i gotta try and get to sleep soon. Will have a decent chunk of time to sink in after i get done with that though. [/spoiler]
I and others have asked her to explain these weird reads and her explanation is:
On October 14 2015 06:10 CopCake wrote:Show nested quote +On October 14 2015 06:07 deconduo wrote:On October 14 2015 05:36 CopCake wrote:EXCUSE ME I AM A SOULREADER I look for motivations of why people post what, and sup looked forced, there's no reason for him to say "brb" and lol if that's ENOUGH for you to vote me then you are mafia What was forced about it? What is scummy about gobbledydook? Why are GB, Slam, and TikTok town? I said GB is looking mafia with rels, he looked town before. TIKTOK is so carefree so is slam, their intro tone is good. So "tone reads" AKA no explanation.
2. Her read on GB and I are inconsistent Copcake says GB and I are mafia together:
On October 14 2015 03:45 CopCake wrote: Rels and GB being like I suspect GB but I still answer glowing bear questions.
NO FUCKING WAY, you two are also mafia, take back my GB townread.
On October 14 2015 06:10 CopCake wrote:Show nested quote +On October 14 2015 06:07 deconduo wrote:On October 14 2015 05:36 CopCake wrote:EXCUSE ME I AM A SOULREADER I look for motivations of why people post what, and sup looked forced, there's no reason for him to say "brb" and lol if that's ENOUGH for you to vote me then you are mafia What was forced about it? What is scummy about gobbledydook? Why are GB, Slam, and TikTok town? I said GB is looking mafia with rels, he looked town before. TIKTOK is so carefree so is slam, their intro tone is good. Please look very carefully for her reason to scumread GB. Rels suspects GB => but Rels answers GB's questions => Rels and GB are mafia together
Now. When asked about her reasons for scumreading GB, she said:
On October 14 2015 10:48 CopCake wrote:I already did, your interaction with rels is weird and "a waste of time" lol, really come and fight me, you are asking questions and in addition like you know HOW I AM AS MAFIA yet you MAFIA READ ME because I have TOWN READS. DUDE DO YOU EVEN REMEMBER THAT I DIDNT HAVE TOWN READS LAST GAME and I was like pretending I was pissed (actually I was for mossy) but yeah oh no, you are not even considering my filters too sad, no? So GB's "interactions with Rels" is what makes GB scummy. Makes sense with the above. A little weird she's not voting me instead of GB, but whatever.
Then she says:
On October 14 2015 10:52 CopCake wrote:Show nested quote +On October 14 2015 10:51 GlowingBear wrote:On October 14 2015 03:45 CopCake wrote: Rels and GB being like I suspect GB but I still answer glowing bear questions.
NO FUCKING WAY, you two are also mafia, take back my GB townread.
You're calling me mafia off of an unflipped association. More than that, instead of going after the root of your association, you're going against the consequential read. I can't take this seriously what unflipped association? I don't get it pls elaborate. WTF. She just said GB was scummy because of his "interactions with Rels". But wait. There is more:
On October 14 2015 10:58 CopCake wrote: you think rels is town tho.
that makes you mafia. She thinks I'm town now ???? There is no explanation for that switch. Her original basis for scumreading GB was that both GB and I were scum together. And now she's saying GB is scummy for his interactions with me, which is still her original reason; but she also thinks I'm town.
It doesn't make any kind of sense. There is NO reason for her to scumread GB.
3. She doesn't post much and doesn't answer questions This point doesn't mean shit by itself, by in combinaison to the above, it indicated Copcake is not-town.
Conclusion 1. Townreads with no basis to start the game. 2. No reason for her main scumread. 3. Not very active. Lynch her.
For me it's better to look at why Rels focuses on one person over another. For example he was initially suspect of GB, which didn't last too long, then pushed me fairly hard early on. Cake was his main target for the rest of the day after he stopped scum reading me. So these were his 3 main pushes, while he also subtly agreed on Moosy and Xat possibly being scum.
To me the arguments Rels has with Cake near EoD are pretty clearly showing there is miscommunication going on. There's an awful lot of "he said, she said" sorta stuff going on that looks like it is clearly going nowhere. Like at this point Rels looks semi-tunneled on Cake which I've seen him do as either alignment.
Gah, idk. I see similarities between this push on Cake and pushes Rels has made as both alignments before. He and Rayn pushed and mislynched me as town in one of the newbie games because they didn't understand my thinking/logic. He also did a solid case/push on Dandel in Season of the Witch as scum, managing to pull people away from his afk scummate.
Conclusion - Inconclusive
GlowingBear: GB's read on Cake seems to evolve out pretty naturally.
He starts off questioning her early townreads and tries to engage her to explain them.
At one point GB looks like he goes fairly hard at Moosy but keeps Cake in his sights.
Eventually he switches to Cake and implores everyone to do the same.
On October 14 2015 22:15 GlowingBear wrote: Everyone NOT scum reading cop cake, please explain so.
She scum reads Rels for no good reason, proceeds to scum read me with the basis on an unflipped association with Rels, then forgets Rels and push me instead of, you know, going against her main scum read (which, under her logic, his flip would confirm my alignment, and not the opposite).
I see no townie following this logic
On October 14 2015 21:28 GlowingBear wrote: Moosy can easily be with cake
The only thing that feels a little off is this post
On October 15 2015 05:20 GlowingBear wrote: By the way, I won't be here at deadline, I'll be having classes.
If you guys move your votes off of CopCake I will heartlessly torture baby walruses
Both his scumreads are potential lynches so I'm not sure why he would mind if people switched back over to Moosy. There is possible OMGUS involved though since Cake was pushing GB as scum, kinda feel like that would come from either alignment though. Feels a little weak, but there's some room for tin foil here.
Conclusion - Checks out.
Xatalos: Probably the more interesting case imo. I say that because Xat makes a lot of posts that state this
On October 13 2015 19:37 Xatalos wrote: Hm... Not very sure about those people you mentioned. CopCake is Little Lamb from VS, I think? She was extremely convincing as Mafia last time around.
Here is all of them that I found. + Show Spoiler +On October 13 2015 19:37 Xatalos wrote: Hm... Not very sure about those people you mentioned. CopCake is Little Lamb from VS, I think? She was extremely convincing as Mafia last time around. On October 14 2015 22:19 Xatalos wrote: I've only seen scum CopCake before and she seemed more townie than now that time >.> On October 15 2015 07:51 Xatalos wrote:
On October 15 2015 07:49 Tictock wrote:Show nested quote +On October 15 2015 07:44 Xatalos wrote: For example, right now CopCake could easily get no-lynched if just one switches away. I'd appreciate people ensuring the lynch before the deadline. Thanks.
If you prefer MoosyDoosy, state quickly why? I've explained my reasons a few times. Moosy's only read push has been on Sup and his read was based on shit he berated Rels for being. Cops reads are wierd but thy haev evolved, shes challenged people.
Well yeah MoosyDoosy's reads are terrible, but so are CopCake's.... And I'd expect CopCake to be the better one out of them, all things equal. Granted I've only seen scum!CopCake before and she was better than this even there.
He ends up voting Cake in this long post. His main reason is that her reads don't make sense.
So my issue here is that his read seems to be in conflict with itself, "Cake plays a convincing scum game" while this game "Her reads make no sense, must be scum." Whats even more disturbing to me is that Xat makes this argument multiple times while defending Moosy
Well yeah, at this point MoosyDoosy's inactivity is starting to get irritating. I still get the feeling that anti-town wouldn't blatantly make themselves suspicious like that... Or generally just act without care for their own survival. In my experience people like that are usually town who get easily mislynched by scum. *Rarely* there are cases where scum take that as their strategy and WIFOM themselves out of suspicion... I kind of doubt MoosyDoosy is going for such a high-risk play.
So somehow Xat is convinced that Cake is scum for not making sense, yet he's had experience with her scum game and claims it's "pretty convincing" and at the same time he is defending Moosy because he doesn't think scum would be willing to play in a way to draw attention to themselves.
None of this adds up. I've been saying it all game, Xat is scum.
Conclusion - Lynch with Fire
MoosyDoosy: Moosy's first response to Cake is calling out her post on Superbia good, and while he later includes her in his list of ppl he is suspect of he still says she has good thoughts and is last on his list.
He actually seems fairly unsure, questions Cake's townread on him, tries to get her to focus on Sup with him, multiple occasions where he tries to engage Cake in conversation.
Eventually he votes her here, which can be argued as being partially a survival vote, but it looks somewhat reluctant to me.
[B]On October 15 2015 06:30 MoosyDoosy wrote: Show nested quote +On October 15 2015 06:25 Xatalos wrote: That's just not a reason to scumread anyone. Answering a question means being polite, and you can do it even if you're 100% sure someone is scum. And nobody sure as hell can't be 100% sure on anything during D1...
Please someone else put your vote down on CopCake. A no-lynch would be pretty sad in this situation. At best we lynch anti-town (pretty likely), at worst we move the game forward at our pace rather than having CopCake as a problem tomorrow. ok. ##unvote ##vote: CopCake
Overall there is some evolution here, and tried a few times EoD to push the lynch elsewhere rather than pile on.
Conclusion - Checks out
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I'm actually rethinking my read on Moosy a little after that analysis and reading his filter again.
Anyways probably not posting much more this Night. Assuming I survive I'll reevaluate tomorrow.
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On October 16 2015 04:57 MoosyDoosy wrote: Tictock bb, you forgot the part where I actually wasn't reading her posts which is why I didn't actually have a read on her.
How is anyone supposed to know that?
It certainly looks like you were reading some of her posts...
On October 14 2015 08:00 MoosyDoosy wrote:Show nested quote +On October 14 2015 03:43 CopCake wrote: Sup is mafia because DUH why the fuck does he need to say "BRB" when the game was SO FUCKING DEAD like seriously that post was like "hey look at me i am paying attention but you fucktards are not participating" totally different when he was town in that game i was mafia with moosy.
This is a good post.
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On October 16 2015 05:15 Xatalos wrote: Not sure I really understand your latest accusation, and it's starting to get a bit annoying. I mean... I never said that CopCake made a ton of sense as scum. She just had that spontaneous/genuine feel about her with her posting style as scum, same as here. So that's pretty inconclusive. What made me lean over to scum on her was how her reads just didn't make any logical sense. I couldn't understand how she could push those as town, and they were even more peculiar compared to her last scumgame, so... In any case, I don't really regret it. She wasn't even a role, and she would have been an anti-town element later on.
Frankly, you just seem to twist anything and everything about me in a negative light. Straight from my very first post. Either you're town in an extreme tunnel or just anti-town. Actually starting to lean a bit more towards anti-town since the tunnel has been so "pre-set" and static. In either case, it's getting harder for me to take you seriously.
The return of the TunnelTock!
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On October 16 2015 08:08 deconduo wrote: I was cpr doc on moosy BTW. No Jan means that it was probably 3p kp that got blocked and silencua was shot by maf.
With all blues alive and only 3 greens its time for a massclaim btw.
I'll accept this unless I see a counterclaim. Not very smart for scum to fake claim so it's more than likely legit.
I don't understand why you decided to claim though, you are towns only KP, were under no danger, and there's still 4 scum left to find so mass claims don't even help town here at all.
Overall I don't like this post very much, just so little thought put into it.
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On October 16 2015 08:13 raynpelikoneet wrote: gobbledydook is the Fanatic groupie.
Ok... apparently I should fully catchup before posting... idk what's going on anymore.
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On October 16 2015 10:55 CopCake wrote: tic toc was also super obvs town
and i said it
so my town reads were good, except for slam that corrected laters.
Yea I actually shoulda noted what you said about slam tbh, it really wasn't that hard to townread you and he was just idle all last half of the day.
Slam was the only anti-town not on my radar tbh.
Rels was reminding me way too much of SoW where he made a case on a townie who was also floating in lynchbait territory. Sorta hard to not see Rels reconsider that. I was fooling myself thinking that the low chance of him rolling scum 3 games in a row had anything to do with stuff.
Onegu was starting to look a little more scummy after he started to play (not that it would have done him any favors not to do that).
As for Gobble...
On October 16 2015 10:31 gobbledydook wrote:wot ????? I'll call this a 3p victory because it took the game host to out me 
I checked you N1, you were gunna be found out.
I was totally planning to push and possibly lynch Xat D2 though, Gobble woulda been my 2nd choice of D2 lynch.
Sorry I got tunneled on you Xat, but I had decent reasons and your reactions were not helping. You can't really just say "Hey your tunneled, those things you find inconsistent don't matter" you gotta at least help me understand what I'm not seeing. I also found your way overly easy townread on Rels early on worrysome. Honestly my initial thought was that you and Rels were on a team, but when Rels backed off me he agreed with my stuff about you so that was clearly not the case.
Overall, yea too many lurky, non-participating town this game makes it too easy for scum to hide out.
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