EPTAny reason you include gobble in your useless list and not Onegu ?
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Rels
France13467 Posts
Any reason you include gobble in your useless list and not Onegu ? | ||
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Rels
France13467 Posts
On October 14 2015 19:10 Tictock wrote: Last quick thought. Why haven't you done some of your typical Rel's things Rels? No opening post analysis, no useful lists of useless people You've changed so much since rolling scum... Because as mafia I've learned that opening post analysis is not applicable if the guy isn't a newbie. I mean, I used it as mafia to push townies. p: I haven't use ULOUP p: but I've listed useless people: Onegu and gobble. Down to lynch them if they still don't care at deadline. | ||
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Tictock
United States6052 Posts
On October 14 2015 19:13 Rels wrote: Your Xatalos' stuff is good. So this feeling I had about him jumping a little too easily on CopCake is actually something he did all game. Any reason you include gobble in your useless list and not Onegu ? I put Onegu in there On October 14 2015 06:35 Tictock wrote: Geez we have too many lurky players. I'd like to see more out of anyone with less than a page of filter. In particular Moosy, gobble, and Onegu need to bring something to the table. Cop and Superbia are playing, but not at all posting. Just more plz. Decoundo and Sylencia are somehow the standouts of this group. Right now the big difference is that Gobble jumped on Cop after she garnered some votes, but not earlier when he first had issues with her lack of explaining reads. The haiku gimmik is also meh, and makes his few posts have little content. He has gotten called out for it, so I suppose that might fall under the same DMA that I used on Sup but idk. Onegu plays this way as town. It sucks, but he gets more interested when he's scum. Though at the same time he is usually more trolly as town to at least get some reactions. Idk meta has me leaning town on him, but that's basically saying he's null kus I don't really know how to read him. He def needs to do stuff before EoD though, I was aware that he was in the Student game as well as this game, but since I just found out that ended he doesn't have an excuse to at least try this game. | ||
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Tictock
United States6052 Posts
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Sylencia
Australia1057 Posts
On October 14 2015 17:51 Tictock wrote: Pretty sure Town is out to get Mafis and 3p as well... their lives aren't that kushy. I'm talking about public hunting though, maf/3p might blue hunt but they'd never admit to it. 3ps only need to publicly hunt mafia and vice versa. That's why I'm saying it's strange the way CopCake uses "mafia" because it didn't carry the air of "mafia = mafia + 3p", which can only be reduced to a 3p role. Also what's DMA | ||
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Sylencia
Australia1057 Posts
If CopCake doesn't go down for whatever reason, Onegu is next because no matter what role he is, he is a detriment to town. Given the initial disadvantage we have, losing a vote and a voice over a more active townie would be terrible. | ||
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GlowingBear
Brazil12446 Posts
##Vote: CopCake | ||
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gobbledydook
Australia2605 Posts
On October 14 2015 20:05 Sylencia wrote: Anyways, given the swingy nature of the game I'm going to approach it 1-2 people at a time. If CopCake doesn't go down for whatever reason, Onegu is next because no matter what role he is, he is a detriment to town. Given the initial disadvantage we have, losing a vote and a voice over a more active townie would be terrible. Played with him before He's far from useless at all Terrible P Lynch | ||
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Xatalos
Finland9675 Posts
A bit conflicted on TicTock overall. His recent posts have seemed more decent and pretty focused on scumhunting and such... So he might not really be the best lynch today. I think I can sort of understand why he's pushing me... It just feels tunneled when he's focused on it so much, and the evidence isn't really that good... But oh well. I wouldn't probably be the priority mislynch target for scum anyway since I'm not easy to lynch. Tentatively could be town? MoosyDoosy's read post was pretty terrible. Not even the reads themselves so much, but the fact that like half of the players were included for lynching for whatever reasons. Town usually tend to focus on like 1-3 players they'd rather lynch, whereas he focused on as many players as possible. It just gave the feeling that he'd be fine with getting any of those players lynched given the opportunity. Well, the reads too... I also flinched when I saw the part "CopCake has had good thoughts" when she hasn't really said anything sensible yet. I think it's very unlikely that the anti-town factions would push members of their own faction in this setup D1, especially when the setup is so "swingy" and the lynch is everything but decided yet. It's not totally impossible, but I doubt they would want to immediately crash their chances of victory for a little town cred. I think these anti-town factions are quite unlikely: Sylencia/CopCake MoosyDoosy/Superbia Onegu/MoosyDoosy gobbledydook/CopCake deconduo/CopCake Not sure how much this information can be used before any actual flips, but.... It should be at least kept in mind. At least I'm like 95% certain that Sylencia/CopCake aren't in the same faction. Otherwise I see absolutely no sense for Sylencia to suddenly go so hard against CopCake. It's very plausible that they could be on opposing factions, though. It could make sense especially since Sylencia focuses on CopCake being "3rd party"... Although in fact it does make slight sense for CopCake to be 3rd party like Sylencia said? Considering that she uses only the word "mafia" and never mentions anything about 3rd parties. Not really a strong point... But scum!Sylencia would probably notice that more easily than town!Sylencia, I guess. Overall, I don't think any of CopCake/MoosyDoosy/Sylencia are really bad bets. Sylencia probably least of them... I just don't really like his overall lackluster posting (popping irregularly to make some post that makes absolutely no impact on the game) and now this hard push on CopCake for "looking like 3rd party" (TMI...?). Not completely sure which one has the highest chances of flipping anti-town... But maybe CopCake looks the worst right now, slightly, especially with posts like these... On October 14 2015 10:58 CopCake wrote: you think rels is town tho. that makes you mafia. There's 0% logic there. The reads themselves are ridiculous, but the worst part is not pushing Rels if just "thinking Rels is town" is the reason to scumread someone (with that reasoning most players in the game would be scum btw). It's just hard to grasp she could be genuinely making these reads at all. ##Vote CopCake | ||
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GlowingBear
Brazil12446 Posts
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Xatalos
Finland9675 Posts
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Tictock
United States6052 Posts
On October 14 2015 19:55 Sylencia wrote: Also what's DMA Dick Move Analysis I might be a little off on this, but basically it's the idea that scum aren't very willing to piss people off and so people acting like total dicks or not caring what people think of them is probably a sign that they are town. | ||
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Tictock
United States6052 Posts
On October 14 2015 21:16 Xatalos wrote: Yeah this was a majority lynch... Then we'll definitely want to ensure a lynch and consolidate on 1-2 players towards the end. A bit conflicted on TicTock overall. His recent posts have seemed more decent and pretty focused on scumhunting and such... So he might not really be the best lynch today. I think I can sort of understand why he's pushing me... It just feels tunneled when he's focused on it so much, and the evidence isn't really that good... But oh well. I wouldn't probably be the priority mislynch target for scum anyway since I'm not easy to lynch. Tentatively could be town? MoosyDoosy's read post was pretty terrible. Not even the reads themselves so much, but the fact that like half of the players were included for lynching for whatever reasons. Town usually tend to focus on like 1-3 players they'd rather lynch, whereas he focused on as many players as possible. It just gave the feeling that he'd be fine with getting any of those players lynched given the opportunity. Well, the reads too... I also flinched when I saw the part "CopCake has had good thoughts" when she hasn't really said anything sensible yet. I think it's very unlikely that the anti-town factions would push members of their own faction in this setup D1, especially when the setup is so "swingy" and the lynch is everything but decided yet. It's not totally impossible, but I doubt they would want to immediately crash their chances of victory for a little town cred. I think these anti-town factions are quite unlikely: Sylencia/CopCake MoosyDoosy/Superbia Onegu/MoosyDoosy gobbledydook/CopCake deconduo/CopCake Not sure how much this information can be used before any actual flips, but.... It should be at least kept in mind. At least I'm like 95% certain that Sylencia/CopCake aren't in the same faction. Otherwise I see absolutely no sense for Sylencia to suddenly go so hard against CopCake. It's very plausible that they could be on opposing factions, though. It could make sense especially since Sylencia focuses on CopCake being "3rd party"... Although in fact it does make slight sense for CopCake to be 3rd party like Sylencia said? Considering that she uses only the word "mafia" and never mentions anything about 3rd parties. Not really a strong point... But scum!Sylencia would probably notice that more easily than town!Sylencia, I guess. Overall, I don't think any of CopCake/MoosyDoosy/Sylencia are really bad bets. Sylencia probably least of them... I just don't really like his overall lackluster posting (popping irregularly to make some post that makes absolutely no impact on the game) and now this hard push on CopCake for "looking like 3rd party" (TMI...?). Not completely sure which one has the highest chances of flipping anti-town... But maybe CopCake looks the worst right now, slightly, especially with posts like these... There's 0% logic there. The reads themselves are ridiculous, but the worst part is not pushing Rels if just "thinking Rels is town" is the reason to scumread someone (with that reasoning most players in the game would be scum btw). It's just hard to grasp she could be genuinely making these reads at all. ##Vote CopCake Humm this isn't a bad post... | ||
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MoosyDoosy
United States4519 Posts
On October 14 2015 21:28 GlowingBear wrote: Moosy can easily be with cake I really really want to be. Also with you. We should totally make rayn give us a game where we're all scum again. This time I prmise not to double bus. maybe.~~ | ||
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MoosyDoosy
United States4519 Posts
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GlowingBear
Brazil12446 Posts
On October 14 2015 21:45 MoosyDoosy wrote: I really really want to be. Also with you. We should totally make rayn give us a game where we're all scum again. This time I prmise not to double bus. maybe.~~ Hahahaha  Vote cake. | ||
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Tictock
United States6052 Posts
Probably Town Rels - I should point out that Rels is a very strong scum player so people shouldn't give him an easy pass just because he's active. Still I have a hard time seeing him rolling scum 3 games in a row, and I'm not having any sneaking suspicions of him like I did in SoW2. GlowingBear - I've agreed with most of his posts, he's not all over the place and causing confusion like I've seen him do as scum. Even the post where he suggested blues claim if they need to didn't feel like role hunting to me. Town Lean Koshi - Poked his head out way early, pretty active though most of it is complaining about the balance deconduo - Joined the game late, made a decent reads post and was pretty much the first person to seriously push Cake. Probably would be a straight town read besides the fact he's been fairly inactive. Sylencia - I'm actually not sure why I'm leaning town on Syl over straight null, something about his tone feels townie Null Onegu CopCake Superbia - I agree with GB, a couple of his posts felt towny. Continueing to throw out the "brb" thing after getting called out on it seems townie to me as well. Alakaslam - Really not sure how to read Slam, he's low null right now because I don't have time to filter dive him and I don't recall anything he's done this game Scum/Scum Lean gobbledydook MoosyDoosy Xatalos I didn't leave a note next to the people I've been discussing recently anyways. | ||
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GlowingBear
Brazil12446 Posts
She scum reads Rels for no good reason, proceeds to scum read me with the basis on an unflipped association with Rels, then forgets Rels and push me instead of, you know, going against her main scum read (which, under her logic, his flip would confirm my alignment, and not the opposite). I see no townie following this logic | ||
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GlowingBear
Brazil12446 Posts
She isn't being one here. | ||
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Xatalos
Finland9675 Posts
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