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CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
October 14 2015 02:10 GMT
#461
you think i am town now, no?
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
October 14 2015 02:14 GMT
#462
On October 14 2015 11:10 CopCake wrote:
you think i am town now, no?


No, I just liked the meow
I'm adorable.
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
October 14 2015 02:15 GMT
#463
Ok, then go die.

Why is moosy "mafia" ?
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
October 14 2015 02:16 GMT
#464
On October 14 2015 11:14 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2015 11:10 CopCake wrote:
you think i am town now, no?


No, I just liked the meow


[image loading]
I'm adorable.
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
October 14 2015 02:18 GMT
#465
Because this:

On October 14 2015 08:45 GlowingBear wrote:
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On October 14 2015 08:38 Koshi wrote:
I am pleasantly surprised by that post GB. I was thinking you would say something like "too scummy to be scum" " attacks everybody so not mafia" etc etc.


He either isn't interested in the game so he just hangs around or he reads the game and give solid insights. He can't try to do both.

He basically made a list with no reasoning whatsoever. All his reads looks fabricated. I can see people being too scum to be scum but there are limits

I'm adorable.
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
October 14 2015 02:24 GMT
#466
Exactly.

Moosy sucks at mafia so he can make very GOOD TOWN CASES, this time he can't because he is ALONE.

About your gif:

[image loading]
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
October 14 2015 04:28 GMT
#467
On October 14 2015 11:24 CopCake wrote:
Exactly.

Moosy sucks at mafia so he can make very GOOD TOWN CASES, this time he can't because he is ALONE.

About your gif:

[image loading]

wow. I don't know if I like this defense of me or not.
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
October 14 2015 07:10 GMT
#468
On October 14 2015 11:24 CopCake wrote:
Exactly.

Moosy sucks at mafia so he can make very GOOD TOWN CASES, this time he can't because he is ALONE.

About your gif:

[image loading]

[image loading]
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
October 14 2015 07:20 GMT
#469
On October 14 2015 11:16 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2015 11:14 GlowingBear wrote:
On October 14 2015 11:10 CopCake wrote:
you think i am town now, no?


No, I just liked the meow


[image loading]

But GB
[image loading]
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
October 14 2015 07:50 GMT
#470
On October 14 2015 06:54 Alakaslam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2015 06:54 Alakaslam wrote:
On October 14 2015 06:44 deconduo wrote:
Meh, I'm off for now. Maybe something interesting will happen overnight while the US is awake.

I am from CA bro. It's 3PM

Time flies

LOL
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
October 14 2015 07:52 GMT
#471
On October 14 2015 07:34 Superbia wrote:
Other things have been said but I skimmed shit on phone so I don't have a strong opinion on other shit yet. Though moosy needs to do shit. Oh yeah, moosy said something about me probably being scared of his mafia play or something which indicates that he's reading me town, even though he has no reason to or hasn't done so whatsoever, so moosy is probably some sort of mafia.

I didn't understand that reasonning. Could you please expand ?
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
October 14 2015 07:55 GMT
#472
On October 14 2015 08:00 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2015 03:43 CopCake wrote:
Sup is mafia because DUH why the fuck does he need to say "BRB" when the game was SO FUCKING DEAD like seriously that post was like "hey look at me i am paying attention but you fucktards are not participating" totally different when he was town in that game i was mafia with moosy.


This is a good post.

LOL I bought up this point yesterday, and at the time you said:
On October 13 2015 22:43 MoosyDoosy wrote:
brb is really only meta indicative. Some players do it some like me don't feel the need to report when they're here or not.

And now when CopCake makes a similar it is super good ?
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
October 14 2015 08:05 GMT
#473
On October 14 2015 08:04 MoosyDoosy wrote:
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On October 14 2015 05:13 Rels wrote:
On October 14 2015 04:21 Tictock wrote:
On October 14 2015 02:12 Rels wrote:
On October 14 2015 01:27 Tictock wrote:
On October 13 2015 21:38 Rels wrote:
Wow just when I'm done explaining how I don't like a TT's post, I read these:

On October 13 2015 19:29 Tictock wrote:
On October 13 2015 19:26 Xatalos wrote:
On October 13 2015 08:19 Koshi wrote:
##vote MoosyDoosy

Isn't doing shit. Just sitting here idle. Mafia or anti town but for sure afraid to die.


Meh... Why are you saying this as your reason when you just said yourself that you're afraid to die?


I agree this was a shit vote.


On October 13 2015 19:31 Tictock wrote:
Kinda interesting though how Moosy responded to both points of pressure in pg1.

On October 13 2015 08:22 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On October 13 2015 08:20 Koshi wrote:
God dammit I can't contain my spamming. What a joke I am.

Last post.

Only quality posts from now on.

I love you too.

On October 13 2015 09:01 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On October 13 2015 08:52 Superbia wrote:
I actually can't rly play atm. Be back later tomorrow probably. Don't like Moosy's reaction to Koshi.

Ah~ Alas, 'tis a curse in TL where everyone seems to wish to lynch me. Such sadness i have never known before.


Specially since he just stopped posting after that.

Way to have two opinions at the same time. "Koshi's vote on Moosy was shit, but Moosy's reactions was shit".

On October 13 2015 19:33 Tictock wrote:
also I have weak shit town reads on

GB
Copcake
onegu

Selling his opinions short. "hey I have reads but they don't matter!"

I think TT is not-town.


Yep, i'm totally capable of having two opinions. Its really easy when they dont even really clash with each other.

My townreads were shit, based on a post each and something like meta. They are my reads with stuff backing them that shouldn't convince anyone else so I'm not going to bother spelling it out.


This will be my answer to everything you said since I'm not replying to multiple quotes with phone.

The big point outside meta is that you're trying to lie low. "I might make some thoughtful posts later this game", " koshi s vote is shit but his vote target s reaction is also shit", "here are my shitty town reads" ... It looks like to take you don't want people to take you seriously, and that's not something a townie would do.


Now regarding meta. I don't know why you're surprised I said you tried hard DD as town; but I quoted your first few posts of season of the witch. Read them and try telling me again you never try D1.


Eh, I see where you are getting that, but your just taking my posts too seriously. It's not even 24 hrs into the day yet for cryin out loud.

Also if you gunna straight compare posts like that you miss a lot of context. Like this game started off really slow, so there wasn't much to talk about. SoW most of my posts are about setup talk. Guardians is like all filler crap kus I posted first and was somewhat spammy that day.

As for the meta stuff, I just really don't like meta reads. I've seen them do wonders for people and lead people to ignore obvious signs of scum because of what they think meta proves. I also remember you relying on them a little bit too much in SoW...

Regardless, it's just hard to discuss meta without really knowing people well. You can find quotes and posts a bunch of them that help support your point, but it's naive to build a full read based on that. Too much confirmation bias.

Like you are right in that I don't really think my posts are not "meaningful or thoughtout", though I think there are people who would say that. But if I wanted to I can pull a few quotes that support the idea that I do think that.

Yes I would love quotes that support that idea. Cause that's not how I see your play

This is around my 4th game with Tictock. This is your 2nd. -pokes-


Actually nope. Pretty sure I've played a similar number of games with you both. I think I might have actually played with Rels more, but it's around 3-4 games that I've played with either of you.
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
October 14 2015 08:12 GMT
#474
On October 14 2015 08:48 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2015 08:46 GlowingBear wrote:
Why are we differentiating mafia from 3p when they basically are just two different mafia factions?

3p has no TMI. 3p is solo. 3p is way more carefree.
Hunting 3p is stupid. There is nothing that 3p does different than town except 3p wants to survive a bit more.

Sylencia just claimed some guy focused on mafia so he must be 3p. I also focus on mafia because searching for 3p is stupid. Doesn't make any sense. He is a townie with a vig shot. The end.


Pretty sure both factions have the same amount of info, so I don't get this post.

Mafia knows who is Mafia and who is not. 3p knows who is 3p and who is not.

On October 14 2015 08:46 GlowingBear wrote:
Why are we differentiating mafia from 3p when they basically are just two different mafia factions?

This is accurate.
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
October 14 2015 08:13 GMT
#475
On October 14 2015 08:55 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2015 08:54 GlowingBear wrote:
On October 14 2015 08:53 Koshi wrote:
On October 14 2015 08:52 GlowingBear wrote:
3p has KP and has the same win condition as mafia. I don't really see a difference

They play different. TMI is a powerful thing.



Sorry, what is TMI? Too much insight?

Too much information. Pff yeah. I guess mafia teams are the same. nvm nvm nvm nvm


Ok shoulda just kept reading.
I can take that responsibility.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
October 14 2015 08:14 GMT
#476
On October 14 2015 08:17 MoosyDoosy wrote:
I'm just going to vote for Superbia for now. There are reasons that Koshi and gobbledygook CAN be town but Superbia is def scum right now. I think GB + CC + Slam should already realize how different his play is. I will relook into Rels if it becomes necessary.

Also Rels, your case is terrible because A. you used meta and tone when you know you're terrible at meta and tone and you played only 1 game with him when I played like 3 or something close to that. B. also, the only thing that TicTock can be scumread for right now is that he was fence sitting but that's super weak because it was in the first half of D1 so that's a terrible reason as well.

tl;dr your case is bad and TicTock looks town. So change your vote.

oh yeah and before I forget I have a weird itch on Xata which I'll go over later. I think it had something to do with townreading me and something else in conjunction to make magical baby combinations.

Oh. Hi! Oooo ? Mmmm ...

You know what ? You might be right on that. His early posts were bad, but his recent thoughts were pretty good. But there is one problem; I don't feel like admitting TT might be town and removing my vote from him )= it would look like I'm sheeping you, when I'm known for making my own conclusions right ?? What to do .... )=

HEY I KNOW! I JUST HAVE TO TIME TRAVEL, BE LIKE "OK MAYBE TT IS TOWN", AND UNVOTE HIM BEFORE YOU CAN CALL ME OUT ON THAT!

Brillant. I'm a fucking genius. Onto the delorean! You know, the one I've found in 2 seconds in google image!
[image loading]
TADA TADADA TA TADA

OK making these posts now in the past. Done!
On October 14 2015 05:49 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2015 05:39 Tictock wrote:
On October 14 2015 05:13 Rels wrote:
On October 14 2015 04:21 Tictock wrote:
On October 14 2015 02:12 Rels wrote:
On October 14 2015 01:27 Tictock wrote:
On October 13 2015 21:38 Rels wrote:
Wow just when I'm done explaining how I don't like a TT's post, I read these:

On October 13 2015 19:29 Tictock wrote:
On October 13 2015 19:26 Xatalos wrote:
On October 13 2015 08:19 Koshi wrote:
##vote MoosyDoosy

Isn't doing shit. Just sitting here idle. Mafia or anti town but for sure afraid to die.


Meh... Why are you saying this as your reason when you just said yourself that you're afraid to die?


I agree this was a shit vote.


On October 13 2015 19:31 Tictock wrote:
Kinda interesting though how Moosy responded to both points of pressure in pg1.

On October 13 2015 08:22 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On October 13 2015 08:20 Koshi wrote:
God dammit I can't contain my spamming. What a joke I am.

Last post.

Only quality posts from now on.

I love you too.

On October 13 2015 09:01 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On October 13 2015 08:52 Superbia wrote:
I actually can't rly play atm. Be back later tomorrow probably. Don't like Moosy's reaction to Koshi.

Ah~ Alas, 'tis a curse in TL where everyone seems to wish to lynch me. Such sadness i have never known before.


Specially since he just stopped posting after that.

Way to have two opinions at the same time. "Koshi's vote on Moosy was shit, but Moosy's reactions was shit".

On October 13 2015 19:33 Tictock wrote:
also I have weak shit town reads on

GB
Copcake
onegu

Selling his opinions short. "hey I have reads but they don't matter!"

I think TT is not-town.


Yep, i'm totally capable of having two opinions. Its really easy when they dont even really clash with each other.

My townreads were shit, based on a post each and something like meta. They are my reads with stuff backing them that shouldn't convince anyone else so I'm not going to bother spelling it out.


This will be my answer to everything you said since I'm not replying to multiple quotes with phone.

The big point outside meta is that you're trying to lie low. "I might make some thoughtful posts later this game", " koshi s vote is shit but his vote target s reaction is also shit", "here are my shitty town reads" ... It looks like to take you don't want people to take you seriously, and that's not something a townie would do.


Now regarding meta. I don't know why you're surprised I said you tried hard DD as town; but I quoted your first few posts of season of the witch. Read them and try telling me again you never try D1.


Eh, I see where you are getting that, but your just taking my posts too seriously. It's not even 24 hrs into the day yet for cryin out loud.

Also if you gunna straight compare posts like that you miss a lot of context. Like this game started off really slow, so there wasn't much to talk about. SoW most of my posts are about setup talk. Guardians is like all filler crap kus I posted first and was somewhat spammy that day.

As for the meta stuff, I just really don't like meta reads. I've seen them do wonders for people and lead people to ignore obvious signs of scum because of what they think meta proves. I also remember you relying on them a little bit too much in SoW...

Regardless, it's just hard to discuss meta without really knowing people well. You can find quotes and posts a bunch of them that help support your point, but it's naive to build a full read based on that. Too much confirmation bias.

Like you are right in that I don't really think my posts are not "meaningful or thoughtout", though I think there are people who would say that. But if I wanted to I can pull a few quotes that support the idea that I do think that.

Yes I would love quotes that support that idea. Cause that's not how I see your play


Here some stuff where I make comments about my play like that, and pretty good evidence other people think that of me, lol.

+ Show Spoiler +
On August 02 2015 15:51 Tictock wrote:
Looks like we might be starting soon!

Pre-Game excuse: I'm terrible

On August 04 2015 14:14 Tictock wrote:
GG Everyone! No worries about lynching me D2, I got all that out in Obs QT ^.^
Besides, looking at the game objectively Moosy and myself were Wildcards that needed to be dealt with at some point.

Speaking of cards... My best reads were actually when I was doing my tarot stuff. But... besides that all my reads were pretty shit. I think I felt pressured to look like town so I started reading through stuff trying to find something which is never a good way to go. Regardless I think I need to rethink my approach.


These were after I got lynched that game
On July 29 2015 07:10 ruXxar wrote:
Meh, he brought it on himself.

On July 30 2015 04:30 raynpelikoneet wrote:
iam sorry for the lynch. not really though, TT was awful.
noobking is mafia.
mark my words.


Different game, Personality, after I got mislynched in what turned out to be lylo.
On September 05 2015 07:03 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Tictock.
Seriously.
Fuck you.


Probably other stuff if I cared enough to dig through obs and shit


But that's still missing the point that I was clearly making a joke here.
On October 13 2015 19:24 Tictock wrote:
Sad news Fellows...

After today I am out of potent smoke-ables.

This could even mean I give meaningful and thought out posts eventually this game.


I mean I even phrased it like me giving meaningful posts was a bad thing...

I don't care if it was a joke, it clearly showed you felt your usual posting was not making thoughtful posts, which is not true. I admit you seem to have a low esteem of your play. You shouldnt.
I still think your early posts are suspicious because it seems like you don't want people to take you seriously. No explanation will change that. I liked your recent posts though, that what I was expecting from the beginning

On October 14 2015 06:22 Rels wrote:
Going to sleep. See you tomorrow
##Unvote


And ... back to the present. I feel good about that (= Moosy, what do you think of it now ?

...
...
... wait. Something doesn't add up.
I've changed my posts in the past, so Moosy should have seen them when he caught up. After all, we are in a single universe continuum ...

MAYBE HE DIDNT READ THEM
BUT HE SEEMED TO BE CATCHING UP AT THE TIME, AND HE QUOTED POSTS FROM BOTH BEFORE AND AFTER MY UNVOTE
On October 14 2015 08:04 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2015 05:13 Rels wrote:
On October 14 2015 04:21 Tictock wrote:
On October 14 2015 02:12 Rels wrote:
On October 14 2015 01:27 Tictock wrote:
On October 13 2015 21:38 Rels wrote:
Wow just when I'm done explaining how I don't like a TT's post, I read these:

On October 13 2015 19:29 Tictock wrote:
On October 13 2015 19:26 Xatalos wrote:
On October 13 2015 08:19 Koshi wrote:
##vote MoosyDoosy

Isn't doing shit. Just sitting here idle. Mafia or anti town but for sure afraid to die.


Meh... Why are you saying this as your reason when you just said yourself that you're afraid to die?


I agree this was a shit vote.


On October 13 2015 19:31 Tictock wrote:
Kinda interesting though how Moosy responded to both points of pressure in pg1.

On October 13 2015 08:22 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On October 13 2015 08:20 Koshi wrote:
God dammit I can't contain my spamming. What a joke I am.

Last post.

Only quality posts from now on.

I love you too.

On October 13 2015 09:01 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On October 13 2015 08:52 Superbia wrote:
I actually can't rly play atm. Be back later tomorrow probably. Don't like Moosy's reaction to Koshi.

Ah~ Alas, 'tis a curse in TL where everyone seems to wish to lynch me. Such sadness i have never known before.


Specially since he just stopped posting after that.

Way to have two opinions at the same time. "Koshi's vote on Moosy was shit, but Moosy's reactions was shit".

On October 13 2015 19:33 Tictock wrote:
also I have weak shit town reads on

GB
Copcake
onegu

Selling his opinions short. "hey I have reads but they don't matter!"

I think TT is not-town.


Yep, i'm totally capable of having two opinions. Its really easy when they dont even really clash with each other.

My townreads were shit, based on a post each and something like meta. They are my reads with stuff backing them that shouldn't convince anyone else so I'm not going to bother spelling it out.


This will be my answer to everything you said since I'm not replying to multiple quotes with phone.

The big point outside meta is that you're trying to lie low. "I might make some thoughtful posts later this game", " koshi s vote is shit but his vote target s reaction is also shit", "here are my shitty town reads" ... It looks like to take you don't want people to take you seriously, and that's not something a townie would do.


Now regarding meta. I don't know why you're surprised I said you tried hard DD as town; but I quoted your first few posts of season of the witch. Read them and try telling me again you never try D1.


Eh, I see where you are getting that, but your just taking my posts too seriously. It's not even 24 hrs into the day yet for cryin out loud.

Also if you gunna straight compare posts like that you miss a lot of context. Like this game started off really slow, so there wasn't much to talk about. SoW most of my posts are about setup talk. Guardians is like all filler crap kus I posted first and was somewhat spammy that day.

As for the meta stuff, I just really don't like meta reads. I've seen them do wonders for people and lead people to ignore obvious signs of scum because of what they think meta proves. I also remember you relying on them a little bit too much in SoW...

Regardless, it's just hard to discuss meta without really knowing people well. You can find quotes and posts a bunch of them that help support your point, but it's naive to build a full read based on that. Too much confirmation bias.

Like you are right in that I don't really think my posts are not "meaningful or thoughtout", though I think there are people who would say that. But if I wanted to I can pull a few quotes that support the idea that I do think that.

Yes I would love quotes that support that idea. Cause that's not how I see your play

This is around my 4th game with Tictock. This is your 2nd. -pokes-

On October 14 2015 08:04 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2015 05:23 Rels wrote:
Actually it only means something if xatalos and moosy are in a team together. Otherwise that illogical defense of Moosy is without a purpose. So by voting xatalos you're also suspecting moosy to be his teammate ?

...hm...????

On October 14 2015 08:06 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2015 05:48 Alakaslam wrote:
On October 14 2015 05:28 Xatalos wrote:
On October 14 2015 04:57 Tictock wrote:
So this caught my eye when I first read it. I held off commenting right away kus I know Rels often does opening post analysis, and wanted to see if he'd catch it too.

Basically the idea is that scum are unsure how to open and will often spend extra time on their first posts and talk about multiple subjects.

Xat's open practically screamed that to me.

On October 13 2015 19:24 Xatalos wrote:
Btw if you want to see the up-to-date votecount then it's here at all times: https://mafia-votecount.herokuapp.com/#495390-crossfire-mafia

I truly hope the VT claims are from anti-town parties / blues since otherwise it's just, frankly, playing against your win condition. It'd be preferable if nobody claimed roles D1 or even after that without good reason.

On October 13 2015 08:15 Koshi wrote:
Town.

Going to go with a plynch all liars through the entire game. Will totally ruin the game because town are lying bitches. But I will do it.

If nobody lies I will use spidersenses.

4 antitown. Way too much anti town kp. First days are a joke.

If there are 9 townies who need to lynch 4 anti townies while these antitownies got 4 kp and are immune to the other antitownies their kp the game is a total joke.

There are also way to many blue roles. Blue roles with completely random effects based on the skill of the player.


So tbh. If I try and lynch anti town D1 I will just get rewarded with a bullet and anti town will start shooting town faster than we can lynch anti town. Doesn't make any fucking sense.



tldr 1: Koshi is going to do absolutely nothing the first days because the game looks like a joke. He might say some random shit about random people. He will appreciate it that when these random people are actually anti town that they won't shoot Koshi.

tldr2: Read tldr 1


This felt a bit wrong to me. What I mean is the fact that Koshi was primarily concerned about his own life and while saying that town's position is bad (which should lead to the conclusion that it's time to play well), he concludes that he's going to lurk.. Which left me with the feeling that rather than having good lynches, he just wanted to avoid getting shot. The strongest motivation for that would be if he's anti-town. It's still possible that he's blue or something, but if that's the case, then it's pretty bad play to announce your survival instinct so clearly (making it less likely that you're a VT).

Also Koshi: I don't agree that town is underpowered. The anti-towns can kill each other as well, and we have 2 (kind of) Medics in the game. Well, it is a bit random that way.


That's 4 different topics, 3 if you combine anything related to Koshi.
1-Votecount link
2- VT Claims, No Claims
3- Quote and scumread on Koshi
4- Town not underpowered

The quote in 3 was also brought up by Slam earlier, same bolding even, but maybe that's weak.

This might hold even better given that it has been sometime since Xat played here+ Show Spoiler +
On October 13 2015 19:46 Xatalos wrote:
Here's the current nicknames list if you're interested: https://github.com/Xatalos/mafia-votecount/blob/master/resources/public/js/nicknames.js

I've played my couple of last games on Vendetta Strada. Last time I played here... Was this one I think: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/484076-assassination-mafia

Yeah I agree that Slam is feeling very carefree/relaxed. Which usually leans towards town...

How did you come to that townread list btw?
and could very well be concerned about his open if he rolled scum.

Also his defense of Moosy felt a little off, as did his early town read+ Show Spoiler +
On October 13 2015 19:33 Xatalos wrote:
My gut feeling is that MoosyDoosy is town. If you ask me why? It's because he's taking it so easy while being accused. I think it's a bit more likely to become defensive or even over-react somehow if you're actually not town, rather than joke around. Especially since there are several anti-town factions, it's even more dangerous for you if votes get piled on you...

. Especially given that he says this
On October 13 2015 19:54 Xatalos wrote:
Still, basically there's never a reason not to play as town. Only scum(/anti-town) benefits from a silent thread. And it even makes the game MORE random since there's less to work with.


Moosy's filter defines silent btw, half of his page is pre-game.

On October 13 2015 20:12 Xatalos wrote:
On October 13 2015 20:09 Xatalos wrote:
##Vote: Sylencia


Oh yeah... This was mostly because I disliked his style of just cautiously/briefly popping into the thread to make some semi-useless comment, then disappear. That and the fact that others who had posted so far had at least something town-leaning going for them.


That's quite a bit of picking and choosing in how he applies this logic.

So yea, this guy has been my top scumread for quite some time, and I'm fairly sure Xata flips non-town here.

##Vote: Xatalos



Well yeah, at this point MoosyDoosy's inactivity is starting to get irritating. I still get the feeling that anti-town wouldn't blatantly make themselves suspicious like that... Or generally just act without care for their own survival. In my experience people like that are usually town who get easily mislynched by scum. *Rarely* there are cases where scum take that as their strategy and WIFOM themselves out of suspicion... I kind of doubt MoosyDoosy is going for such a high-risk play.

Out of curiosity, when did I become your top scumread? You haven't really even mentioned me before that, but you said "for a long time". The case is kind of a cherry-picked gathering of pretty null-leaning things as well.

Not sure how talking about several topics in your opening is really scummy. Many people have done that.

why? Read firefly newbie student

haha this. I bused my whole team (CopCake + GB) for the win. CopCake did not appreciate that apparently and GB really didn't either.

On October 14 2015 08:08 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2015 06:35 Tictock wrote:
Geez we have too many lurky players.

I'd like to see more out of anyone with less than a page of filter.

In particular Moosy, gobble, and Onegu need to bring something to the table.

Cop and Superbia are playing, but not at all posting. Just more plz.

Decoundo and Sylencia are somehow the standouts of this group.

yah yah I'm working on it calm urself


Then I know! Maybe he saw I unvoted, but is pushing me for my "bad" case on TT!
... no, he's clearly saying to me to change my vote!
On October 14 2015 08:17 MoosyDoosy wrote:
tl;dr your case is bad and TicTock looks town. So change your vote.


MOOSY WHY ARE YOU SO ILLOCAL
WHY ARE YOU ALWAYS MISSING IMPORTANT THINGS
I DONT EVEN KNOW YOUR ALIGNMENT BASED ON THAT, BECAUSE YOU RE DOING IT ALL THE TIME
"oh im moosy im just going to be illogical all the time whatever my alignement is"
MAYBE THATS WHY YOU RE A LYNCH CANDIDATE IN 100% OF YOUR GAMES
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
October 14 2015 08:16 GMT
#477
On October 14 2015 08:30 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2015 08:13 MoosyDoosy wrote:
okie I am back and around. As a note I refuse to participate in any lynch on my Chupazi master Alakaslam unless there is glaring evidence he is not town.

mmm...down to work. Basically people I don't like this far.

gobbledygook - terrible posts so far
Superbia - acting nothing like town and doing nothing for the thread
Koshi - there’s no reason to make a long post about how town will kill themselves. That’s just drawing way way too much attention to himself. I don’t think he’s scum so…fanatic groupie? maybe.

GlowingBear - I might have to revisit this.
Rels - terrible case on TicTock and terrible conclusions that he’s drawing.
deconduo - the way he got his reads was so bad it was o-o
CopCake - eh idk. she had some good thoughts but if she continues to not care then that’s a super scum read.


Ok this is one of the worst posts so far and I will completely flip my read on you

##Unvote
##Vote: MoosyDoosy


You can't possibly believe in ANYTHING you're saying here.
You don't like me but you need to revisit me. Ok but why you don't like me?
Why does gobble looks terrible?
Your conclusion on Koshi is the worst possible. Fanatic groupie? What??
Why is the case on tic tock horrible?
What was bad on the way deconduo got reads?

And the best one:

CAKE HAS UNEXPLAINED READS. HOW THE HELL DOES SHE HAD GOOD THOUGHTS????

++++++++++++++++
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
October 14 2015 08:27 GMT
#478
On October 14 2015 09:09 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2015 09:05 GlowingBear wrote:
On October 14 2015 09:02 Koshi wrote:
On October 14 2015 08:59 GlowingBear wrote:
On October 14 2015 08:57 Koshi wrote:
yeah. True. So they will probably protect each other. w.e
This game is truly wtf.

4 mafia with 2 kp

Why the fuck bother.


Mechanics are actually pretty neat. Read the roles and you'll see the clusterfuck night kills will be.

To be honest roles and mechanics can cause different behaviours that we are used to

Nope. The game is not rewarding at all for town. While mafia and 3p only get rewarded if they survive and never punished for following their wincon.

If town lynches anti town each day they can still lose. CPR is a shitty role, should have been a cop that couldn't be protected by the town medic.


I wouldn't call a vigilante with unlimited bullets that can kill scum/save a townie on LYLO a bad role.

Yes it is a bad role because it is rolling the dice every night. if it is 3 vs 1 in the night he can actually end the game by using his power, he would be retarded to use it. 2 vs 1 in the night he gives town a 50/50 chance to play the "who is the real cpr on lylo". Currently he is just a vigi with the offchance he saves an dubious figure. Seriously, if cpr actually heals a confirmed townie during the night he is fucking 100% retarded. No excuses.


Humm, This is actually interesting. To consider the CPR role like a town Vigi.

I think that's the correct approach early in the game, the chances of CPR hitting a KP target and saving them out of a large pool of players is really low, even with 2 KP floating around. So using their power like a Vigi is legit.

However, Koshi, I don't get why you don't value the potential ability for CPR to offer a save as well as town KP.

I can take that responsibility.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
October 14 2015 08:31 GMT
#479
On October 14 2015 09:42 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2015 09:22 Koshi wrote:
anti town can just pretend to scumhunt the other anti town party. This is so fucking silly tbh.

It's not even pretending. Their actual goal during dayphase is to lynch anti town. The fact that they need to make a fake "you are mafia" case on somebody they know isn't is completely removed.


Literally 13 people in this thread are looking for people who are not town. 4 people in this thread know the alignment of 1 other guy they can ignore for the most part.

Koshi. Once again what you're saying seems to make sense but is totally false.
1 - that's partly the case in every mafia game. If mafia members could just appear town, scumhunt, don't care about each other, mafias would be unlynchable. What makes the game playable is that mafias always plays differently because they (1) know they are mafias, and (2) because they have TMI. You're right that the (2) TMI component is mostly removed in this game; the (1) part is not though. Playing a role is exhausting, and not-town will slip roleplaying as town sooner or later. We have to catch that.
2 - you again forget we have potentially 2 medic or 1 medic 1 vig if the CPR dude is good. So even if we have 4 people 2 KP against us, we also have a lot of role power. For example in the worst scenario where we mislynch D1 and have 3 town killed N1: we are at 5/2/2. If none of these 4 dead were roles, we're still in a pretty good shape.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
October 14 2015 08:33 GMT
#480
On October 14 2015 10:34 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Also, don’t forget Superbia’s not doing anything for the thread right now.

tbh the only other person I kind of want to kill is Rels but he hasn’t come back yet to realize his case on TicTock is terrible so I’ll wait on him.

You seem really immune to time travels. Maybe I was wrong and I created an alternative universe where my corrected posts don't exist
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