EPTWhich is why it's infinitely worse for those people who are trying to treat this like your classic game and try to act as townie as possible with standard lists (Superbia).
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MoosyDoosy
United States4519 Posts
Which is why it's infinitely worse for those people who are trying to treat this like your classic game and try to act as townie as possible with standard lists (Superbia). | ||
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MoosyDoosy
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Superbia
Netherlands8889 Posts
Also I'm null on the people missing in that list. Rels. I think I can probably get a read on Sylencia and maybe dook but I haven't yet. Will see after dinner. Also while on the surface this may appear as a substandard game, rules of mafia still follow, just slightly different. There's a difference between how people play town and how they play mafia, regardless of set up. It's a human thing. | ||
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Superbia
Netherlands8889 Posts
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Superbia
Netherlands8889 Posts
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Rels
France13467 Posts
On October 14 2015 23:42 MoosyDoosy wrote: What you have to do - is find other people not in your faction and lynch them. On October 14 2015 23:42 MoosyDoosy wrote: So using standard lists like narrowing it down to a few scum is useless. Making lists is doing exactly what we you think we should do IE "find other people not in your faction and lynch them". In fact you've just admitted you did a list too: On October 14 2015 23:42 MoosyDoosy wrote: And everyone that I've listed otherwise is probably 3rd party or Mafia. That's how I've been formulating my reads. I listed a bunch of people I didn't like because this isn't a 3 man team we have to kill, it's two different teams. I see no difference between "listing people from most town to most not-town" and "listing the people I think are not-town". | ||
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Rels
France13467 Posts
On October 14 2015 23:42 MoosyDoosy wrote: The thing that all of you seem to have difficulty understanding - is that there are 3 factions here. So using standard lists like narrowing it down to a few scum is useless. Your "I make townie-type list and Superbia makes scummy-type list" stupidity aside, I don't agree with this today. D1 we do not care about association. We lynch not-town. When a not-town flips we can start thinking about partner candidate. Especially, two partners are unlikely to have bussed each other D1, so this is valuable info. But it doesn't matter D1. | ||
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Tictock
United States6051 Posts
On October 14 2015 22:21 Xatalos wrote: If you liked my last post, why am I still top scum while CopCake/Sylencia (two of the main suspects) are town/null? Or was this just some post you prepared before and only posted now? Why not correct it before posting then? I only said it wasn't a bad post and I read it right I as preparing the reads post, so didn't have time to properly look it over. Actually I'd like to know a couple things about that post, I've been thinking it over a little at work (on a 10 atm). You said your still uncertain about me, why? What are you seeing thats scummy? What value do you think your list of non associated people has? | ||
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Tictock
United States6051 Posts
On October 14 2015 23:02 Superbia wrote: ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/op6pSeR.jpg) Gratz | ||
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GlowingBear
Brazil12446 Posts
On October 14 2015 23:42 MoosyDoosy wrote: The thing that all of you seem to have difficulty understanding - is that there are 3 factions here. So using standard lists like narrowing it down to a few scum is useless. What you have to do - is find other people not in your faction and lynch them. There's no point in lists saying these people are Mafia because there is 3rd party here. Night will be interesting but it unfortunately looks like I won't be around for it. The thing is that I'm plenty sure that Superbia isn't town. And everyone that I've listed otherwise is probably 3rd party or Mafia. That's how I've been formulating my reads. I listed a bunch of people I didn't like because this isn't a 3 man team we have to kill, it's two different teams. On that note, the reason why I've been buddying with a bunch of different people is because they're useful even if they're not town with me. Even if we convince 3p to kill Mafia or Mafia to kill 3p it's still a gain for town. This is the correct mindset to have. Which is why it's infinitely worse for those people who are trying to treat this like your classic game and try to act as townie as possible with standard lists (Superbia). Moosy, actually, there isn't a very different way to approach this game. Simply consider mafia and third Party as one big anti-town group (namely: scum) and go against who is acting that way. The only difference between normal games is that mafia and 3p are afraid of being shot at night so they mostly will never commit themselves to drive lynches (if they go against a player who is in other anti town faction they will die at night). | ||
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Xatalos
Finland9673 Posts
Tictock: I'm not really sure about you yet. Maybe a part of it could be the contradictory feelings about your push on me. On the other hand, it's hard to feel it being town-motivated when I'm town, but when you think about it, it's not like I'm a very good target to push for anti-town. The reasons also aren't absolute trash like some players (CopCake, MoosyDoosy etc.) have presented. Still I feel there's definitely a bias to present null-leaning things more negatively than they should be, but it's hard to say if that's town or anti-town tunneling for the time being. The list's value isn't great right now, but I just wrote it down for later. At LYLO it could prove to be crucial, for example (as a piece to the puzzle of figuring out the factions). | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43266 Posts
CopCake (6): deconduo, gobbledydook, Sylencia, Rels, GlowingBear, Xatalos MoosyDoosy (3): Xatalos (1): Tictock Superbia (1): MoosyDoosy Koshi (0): Sylencia (0): Tictock (0): Not Voting (2): CopCake, Alakaslam With 13 alive it takes 7 to lynch. Day 1 ends in . | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43266 Posts
The correct format can be found in the OP. | ||
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Rels
France13467 Posts
On October 15 2015 01:25 Xatalos wrote: Btw I'm not sure how strict the rules for non-voting are, but CopCake's vote didn't count because it was only something like "#name". Or was it even a vote? Anyways, people should probably vote correctly before the deadline hits... Tictock: I'm not really sure about you yet. Maybe a part of it could be the contradictory feelings about your push on me. On the other hand, it's hard to feel it being town-motivated when I'm town, but when you think about it, it's not like I'm a very good target to push for anti-town. The reasons also aren't absolute trash like some players (CopCake, MoosyDoosy etc.) have presented. Still I feel there's definitely a bias to present null-leaning things more negatively than they should be, but it's hard to say if that's town or anti-town tunneling for the time being. The list's value isn't great right now, but I just wrote it down for later. At LYLO it could prove to be crucial, for example (as a piece to the puzzle of figuring out the factions). TT s arguments are good though. You used different logic for different people, and most importantly you only voted on ongoing trains. You cannot dismiss them as " not trash" and "null leaning things". | ||
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Rels
France13467 Posts
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Onegu
United States9695 Posts
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Xatalos
Finland9673 Posts
On October 15 2015 01:50 Rels wrote: TT s arguments are good though. You used different logic for different people, and most importantly you only voted on ongoing trains. You cannot dismiss them as " not trash" and "null leaning things". Tbh I think I explained my "different" treatment of MoosyDoosy and Sylencia, and nobody else has really brought up Sylencia as far as I remember. But I don't really even care too much right now. There's no way I'm getting lynched today and things should be clearer after the lynch&kills, I hope. | ||
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Alakaslam
United States17324 Posts
You fools don't know how to read CopCake. Moosy first, he's pretty objectively scummy anyway- my preference is more toward figuring out Koshi however. Nonetheless, Koshi is swinging around and can be really good... I have to decide and Moosy is actually the most scummy guy ATM far as I can see. Koshi points not entirely true but certainly closer to that than false :/ | ||
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Alakaslam
United States17324 Posts
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Xatalos
Finland9673 Posts
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