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Xatalos
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On October 14 2015 22:06 Tictock wrote: Ok I promised this, but I'm already rethinking some stuff. I'll be keeping up with the thread as I can at work, though I wont be able to post much till near EoD. Probably Town Rels - I should point out that Rels is a very strong scum player so people shouldn't give him an easy pass just because he's active. Still I have a hard time seeing him rolling scum 3 games in a row, and I'm not having any sneaking suspicions of him like I did in SoW2. GlowingBear - I've agreed with most of his posts, he's not all over the place and causing confusion like I've seen him do as scum. Even the post where he suggested blues claim if they need to didn't feel like role hunting to me. Town Lean Koshi - Poked his head out way early, pretty active though most of it is complaining about the balance deconduo - Joined the game late, made a decent reads post and was pretty much the first person to seriously push Cake. Probably would be a straight town read besides the fact he's been fairly inactive. Sylencia - I'm actually not sure why I'm leaning town on Syl over straight null, something about his tone feels townie Null Onegu CopCake Superbia - I agree with GB, a couple of his posts felt towny. Continueing to throw out the "brb" thing after getting called out on it seems townie to me as well. Alakaslam - Really not sure how to read Slam, he's low null right now because I don't have time to filter dive him and I don't recall anything he's done this game Scum/Scum Lean gobbledydook MoosyDoosy Xatalos I didn't leave a note next to the people I've been discussing recently anyways. If you liked my last post, why am I still top scum while CopCake/Sylencia (two of the main suspects) are town/null? Or was this just some post you prepared before and only posted now? Why not correct it before posting then? | ||
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Koshi
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On October 14 2015 17:27 Tictock wrote: Humm, This is actually interesting. To consider the CPR role like a town Vigi. I think that's the correct approach early in the game, the chances of CPR hitting a KP target and saving them out of a large pool of players is really low, even with 2 KP floating around. So using their power like a Vigi is legit. However, Koshi, I don't get why you don't value the potential ability for CPR to offer a save as well as town KP. cpr doc is used to deliver kp. If you try to save a townie with the role you are stupid. Killing mafia/lynchbait > Killing townies | ||
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Koshi
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On October 14 2015 17:31 Rels wrote: Koshi. Once again what you're saying seems to make sense but is totally false. 1 - that's partly the case in every mafia game. If mafia members could just appear town, scumhunt, don't care about each other, mafias would be unlynchable. What makes the game playable is that mafias always plays differently because they (1) know they are mafias, and (2) because they have TMI. You're right that the (2) TMI component is mostly removed in this game; the (1) part is not though. Playing a role is exhausting, and not-town will slip roleplaying as town sooner or later. We have to catch that. 2 - you again forget we have potentially 2 medic or 1 medic 1 vig if the CPR dude is good. So even if we have 4 people 2 KP against us, we also have a lot of role power. For example in the worst scenario where we mislynch D1 and have 3 town killed N1: we are at 5/2/2. If none of these 4 dead were roles, we're still in a pretty good shape. Sure bro. I ll play. But game is bad. | ||
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Superbia Glowingbear Slam TT [Lean town cutoff point] Rels Deconduo Xatalos [Lean-Mafia] Koshi [Mafia] Moosy Copcake | ||
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Koshi - Rage on set up p5. Initially had him town for properly evaluating game as being different from normal mafia, which is town-indicative (imo). Overly emotional posts, maybe fake emotion? Haven't played with Koshi I think. Then became clear that he had not properly evaluated game (leaving alone 3p??? lynching crossfire d1 is best case scenario for town). Did not know 3p rules, may be dumbtell. Angry posts after finding out, very meh. Lean-scum prob. | ||
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Sylencia
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On October 14 2015 20:33 gobbledydook wrote: Played with him before He's far from useless at all Terrible P Lynch Most of the games I remember with Onegu with this sort of start has ended in a near-silent Onegu. I don't see why this would change unless my memory was wrong. @Xat: The way she posted just stuck in my mind on the way to the station so I picked it apart a bit and figured it was probably posted from 3p POV. If I was mafia there wouldn't be a need to go to that level of detail in regards to pushing CC because she already looked pretty scummy purely from the contents. Also, I'm not going to be posting more than I need to on Day 1s because honestly I find them such a crapshoot anyways and so long as you get some idea of where I'm at it's better than me trying to "reach" for reads, which I'm terrible at and makes me look terrible regardless of alignment. Hence why you're probably unhappy with my activity. | ||
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Rels
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On October 14 2015 21:16 Xatalos wrote: I think it's very unlikely that the anti-town factions would push members of their own faction in this setup D1, especially when the setup is so "swingy" and the lynch is everything but decided yet. It's not totally impossible, but I doubt they would want to immediately crash their chances of victory for a little town cred. I think these anti-town factions are quite unlikely: Sylencia/CopCake MoosyDoosy/Superbia Onegu/MoosyDoosy gobbledydook/CopCake deconduo/CopCake This is a super good idea. On October 14 2015 21:16 Xatalos wrote: There's 0% logic there. The reads themselves are ridiculous, but the worst part is not pushing Rels if just "thinking Rels is town" is the reason to scumread someone (with that reasoning most players in the game would be scum btw). It's just hard to grasp she could be genuinely making these reads at all. ##Vote CopCake Fuck I misread this! I thought Copcake said "I think Rels is town though", and that was a ridiculous switch. OK so she's actually saying "GB is scum because he thinks Rels is scum". That's still super bad: - why is she not voting me - why did she doubt it was a unflipped association - it wasn't her original case; her original idea was "Rels suspects GB => Rels answers GB's questions => they're scum together", which is false since when I answered GB's questions, I wasn't suspecting him anymore - it doesn't explain why I am mafia, which is the center of her accusation | ||
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Rels
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On October 14 2015 20:33 gobbledydook wrote: Played with him before He's far from useless at all Terrible P Lynch I love your haikus (= So you've earned is a fair warning: I will push you if you don't become useful until EOD That also applies to Onegu | ||
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On October 14 2015 23:01 Superbia wrote: [Town] Superbia Glowingbear Slam TT [Lean town cutoff point] Rels Deconduo Xatalos [Lean-Mafia] Koshi [Mafia] Moosy Copcake You're missing a couple people. Gratz on plat god (= I love this game soooo much | ||
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