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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
October 04 2015 22:18 GMT
#4164
On October 05 2015 07:14 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2015 07:11 LightningStrike wrote:
Wow that Ttfrel kill make no sense at all. Time to check his filter and actually see if who he was on to.


read my reads list and tell me if you disagree

then we're lynching rels ^^

I honestly could see a little bit of scum rels here but he was very pushy in his last scum game though and I did link his scum in response to Tfrel wanting to check his scum game out.
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
October 04 2015 22:18 GMT
#4165
Also I think Rayn is speaking Latin his last post or at least that what Google Translate got lol..... Let see if it got a better translation if I do finnish.
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
October 04 2015 22:19 GMT
#4166
Meh it was latin idk why he decided to post something in latin which is a dead language except for scientists......
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
October 04 2015 22:25 GMT
#4170
On October 05 2015 07:21 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2015 07:18 LightningStrike wrote:
On October 05 2015 07:14 rsoultin wrote:
On October 05 2015 07:11 LightningStrike wrote:
Wow that Ttfrel kill make no sense at all. Time to check his filter and actually see if who he was on to.


read my reads list and tell me if you disagree

then we're lynching rels ^^

I honestly could see a little bit of scum rels here but he was very pushy in his last scum game though and I did link his scum in response to Tfrel wanting to check his scum game out.


any other issues you have with my reads? did you read what i said about rels? i prefer a rels lynch, but gb isn't bad either

No other issues with your list except for MD althoguh he did claim blue earlier but so did other people. I did read what you said about Rels but make sure you check his scum game which I will now repost it here so that way I got a fresh pair of eyes to check it:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/494436-season-of-the-witch-2?user=Rels
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
October 04 2015 22:26 GMT
#4173
On October 05 2015 06:51 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I will rng vote tomorrow.

Why rng your vote? That is just insane unless your name is Blazinghand than it's normal.
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
October 04 2015 22:28 GMT
#4176
On October 05 2015 07:24 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2015 07:11 LightningStrike wrote:
Wow that Ttfrel kill make no sense at all. Time to check his filter and actually see if who he was on to.


you mean the only guy who didnt push the mislynches? who did you expect to die rayn who claimed hes given up on the game

I actually expected MD to die since he had claimed blue if I read it right.
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
October 05 2015 12:07 GMT
#4249
On October 05 2015 21:04 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2015 20:54 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Just some random thoughts:

The Trfel kill was probably an attempt to kill blue but they got the wrong guy (itsa me Mario!) Anyway, there are several reasons why rayn is alive:
1. He is Mafia
2. He said he would RNG and they believed him
3. They were going after the blue role
The 1st only becomes serious when rayn lives the next night. I'm inclined to think it's the 3rd as the 2nd doesn't make much sense.

Also, as Trfel was town and one of the people trying to push off of coolTLname, there should be a Mafia that also tried to push off of coolTL.


yeah you can add that rayn's been tunneling me all game and not reading rels or gb or sicklucker scum to this list

and if rayn's scum this game i'm going to feel like a moron cause i've let him just shit on me constantly thinking he's misguided town with a bug up his arse @.@

Doesn't sound like WBG in Himalayas? Anyways I finally found some motivation to check Rel's meta and see what he pointing is true but warning it might take some time since he had a large filter for pretty much all his games -_-
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
October 05 2015 12:15 GMT
#4257
On October 05 2015 21:12 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2015 21:07 LightningStrike wrote:
On October 05 2015 21:04 rsoultin wrote:
On October 05 2015 20:54 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Just some random thoughts:

The Trfel kill was probably an attempt to kill blue but they got the wrong guy (itsa me Mario!) Anyway, there are several reasons why rayn is alive:
1. He is Mafia
2. He said he would RNG and they believed him
3. They were going after the blue role
The 1st only becomes serious when rayn lives the next night. I'm inclined to think it's the 3rd as the 2nd doesn't make much sense.

Also, as Trfel was town and one of the people trying to push off of coolTLname, there should be a Mafia that also tried to push off of coolTL.


yeah you can add that rayn's been tunneling me all game and not reading rels or gb or sicklucker scum to this list

and if rayn's scum this game i'm going to feel like a moron cause i've let him just shit on me constantly thinking he's misguided town with a bug up his arse @.@

Doesn't sound like WBG in Himalayas? Anyways I finally found some motivation to check Rel's meta and see what he pointing is true but warning it might take some time since he had a large filter for pretty much all his games -_-

Mm. So you want to check what I'm pointing is true. I pointed that I was the main force behind Dandel's mislynch. And I found weird that you have forgotten that, especially since you were one of the other lynch candidates.

I kinda forgot how we ended up lynching Dandel and who drove it honestly because it was a lynch out of nowhere pretty much. Anyways I on your first game ever and you had a small filter so that is easy to check for stuff.
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
October 05 2015 12:26 GMT
#4270
On October 05 2015 21:19 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2015 21:15 LightningStrike wrote:
On October 05 2015 21:12 Rels wrote:
On October 05 2015 21:07 LightningStrike wrote:
On October 05 2015 21:04 rsoultin wrote:
On October 05 2015 20:54 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Just some random thoughts:

The Trfel kill was probably an attempt to kill blue but they got the wrong guy (itsa me Mario!) Anyway, there are several reasons why rayn is alive:
1. He is Mafia
2. He said he would RNG and they believed him
3. They were going after the blue role
The 1st only becomes serious when rayn lives the next night. I'm inclined to think it's the 3rd as the 2nd doesn't make much sense.

Also, as Trfel was town and one of the people trying to push off of coolTLname, there should be a Mafia that also tried to push off of coolTL.


yeah you can add that rayn's been tunneling me all game and not reading rels or gb or sicklucker scum to this list

and if rayn's scum this game i'm going to feel like a moron cause i've let him just shit on me constantly thinking he's misguided town with a bug up his arse @.@

Doesn't sound like WBG in Himalayas? Anyways I finally found some motivation to check Rel's meta and see what he pointing is true but warning it might take some time since he had a large filter for pretty much all his games -_-

Mm. So you want to check what I'm pointing is true. I pointed that I was the main force behind Dandel's mislynch. And I found weird that you have forgotten that, especially since you were one of the other lynch candidates.

I kinda forgot how we ended up lynching Dandel and who drove it honestly because it was a lynch out of nowhere pretty much. Anyways I on your first game ever and you had a small filter so that is easy to check for stuff.

Yeah I was killed so quickly )=
But I didn't point my first game ever as counter evidence; I've pointed out Newbie XI and Personality mafia.

I on XI atm and noticed already on page 1 you started to push for Fake)Plant's lynch. Just stopping by letting you know.
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
October 05 2015 12:47 GMT
#4293
Something to note on Newbie Student Mafia XI: He did push for a Fake)Plant lynch before Fake)Plant had replaced out. He did default to a Geript lynch since he wasn't around EoD 1 there on Page 4 of his filter but then he played like his normal(I think). On New Personality he didn't really do much except for some mini cases until Night 2. so I can confirm that.
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
October 05 2015 12:47 GMT
#4296
On October 05 2015 21:44 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2015 21:43 Rels wrote:
On October 05 2015 21:42 rsoultin wrote:
yeah -_- associative

damn

okay i'm just gonna reread everything again

on the plus side

we either lynch into gb/rels or shining/md

that's two scum right there lol ><

i just want to be sure i'm lynching into the right one @.@

WTF
there is one mafia in GB / Shining, I can see that
Why the fuck would there be one on GB / Rels ?
And more importantly, why would there be one in Shining / MD ? Their mutual reads on each other makes a lot of sense as partners

doesn't even matter sl should be confirmed mafia to her.

She did get sl as mafia by PoE?
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
October 05 2015 12:57 GMT
#4306
On October 05 2015 21:53 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2015 21:47 LightningStrike wrote:
Something to note on Newbie Student Mafia XI: He did push for a Fake)Plant lynch before Fake)Plant had replaced out. He did default to a Geript lynch since he wasn't around EoD 1 there on Page 4 of his filter but then he played like his normal(I think). On New Personality he didn't really do much except for some mini cases until Night 2. so I can confirm that.

OK thanks. Now why do you think of Moosy playing Newbie XI and obsing personality, but still scumreading me because I'm not pushing my lynch hard enough ?
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2015 20:12 Rels wrote:
MoosyDoosy's reasons for scumreading me are partly based on meta that are easily disproved by a meta check; and Moosy read the town games that disproved this meta

On October 05 2015 04:44 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Rels - Completely different from how he normally acts. When pursuing a scum read, he drops it immediately after one explanation which is very uncharacteristic of Rels. He also changes around his story to match the situation. There is no way that screaming about a person's supposedly scummy behavior is supposed to be a "town read". The whole time he was arguing with me, he continuously tried to fish for things as well. At this point, his scum read on me is forced.


The part about "I should be playing smarter and push scumreads harder" are dismissed for the same reasons I've explained here.

Resume
On October 05 2015 19:25 Rels wrote:
Most of this is based on the fact I should be playing smarter, and I should push my reads harder. This could be a valid accusation if I was always playing like that as town. But a simple meta check on my past games would have made her doubt.

In two games where I was town, I didn't push my scumreads hard, and almost got lynched for that in both games.
Newbie student Mafia XI => Day 1, I didn't hard push a scumread, defaulting to geript because I wasn't available at deadline. I was almost lynched D1 for that; if batsnacks hadn't found a non existent "slip" on geript, I would have been the lynch. That changed D2 when I started to play like usual.
The New Personality Mafia => Day 1, I didn't do shit. I was suspected heavily and almost lynched D2 for that; if yamato wasn't jester and rayn didn't create a stupid reason to townread yamato and hammer me, I was probably dead. That changed EOD2 when I started playing like usual.

And in the only game I was mafia:
Season of the Witch 2 => Day 1, I was the driving force on Dandel's push, and managed to get him mislynched.


BUT
Contrary to rsoultin, I know for a fact Moosy read the two town games referenced above. He was:
- playing in Newbie XI
- obsing the first days of personality

So Moosy should know I can act like that as town. Especially if I don't have the time to play at deadline, as it was the case both Newbie XI and in this game.


Sometimes people do forget and sometimes people misrepresent people although normally not on purpose and I see you think he's misrepresenting you correct? If so does that make him town or mafia?
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
October 05 2015 12:58 GMT
#4307
On October 05 2015 21:49 raynpelikoneet wrote:
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On October 05 2015 06:59 raynpelikoneet wrote:
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- blazinghand

ezgameezalyfe

Care to translate everything into english since none of us can read latin?
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
October 05 2015 13:00 GMT
#4309
On October 05 2015 21:57 rsoultin wrote:
maybe i should just vote for shining and blame rayn if we lose lol >< since that's effectively what he's done

like i think i could talk till i was blue in the face and he'd still hold on to his biases...just hope i'm wrong, think i'm not, and call rayn bad at the end for scumreading and voting on only town

lol that may actually be okay ^^

rayn are you ever going to even attempt to listen to me or see me as town this game or should i just vote shining and say yolo? real talk right now

are you ever going to drop the tunnel on me or shining? or at least read what i'm doing with a neutral mindset?

Don't pull a me Tina
I did that a LYLO vs Unholyflare and someone else(I can't remember the name because it been sometime since I played that game) and you saw what happened -_-
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
October 05 2015 13:03 GMT
#4312
On October 05 2015 22:00 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2015 21:57 LightningStrike wrote:
On October 05 2015 21:53 Rels wrote:
On October 05 2015 21:47 LightningStrike wrote:
Something to note on Newbie Student Mafia XI: He did push for a Fake)Plant lynch before Fake)Plant had replaced out. He did default to a Geript lynch since he wasn't around EoD 1 there on Page 4 of his filter but then he played like his normal(I think). On New Personality he didn't really do much except for some mini cases until Night 2. so I can confirm that.

OK thanks. Now why do you think of Moosy playing Newbie XI and obsing personality, but still scumreading me because I'm not pushing my lynch hard enough ?
On October 05 2015 20:12 Rels wrote:
MoosyDoosy's reasons for scumreading me are partly based on meta that are easily disproved by a meta check; and Moosy read the town games that disproved this meta

On October 05 2015 04:44 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Rels - Completely different from how he normally acts. When pursuing a scum read, he drops it immediately after one explanation which is very uncharacteristic of Rels. He also changes around his story to match the situation. There is no way that screaming about a person's supposedly scummy behavior is supposed to be a "town read". The whole time he was arguing with me, he continuously tried to fish for things as well. At this point, his scum read on me is forced.


The part about "I should be playing smarter and push scumreads harder" are dismissed for the same reasons I've explained here.

Resume
On October 05 2015 19:25 Rels wrote:
Most of this is based on the fact I should be playing smarter, and I should push my reads harder. This could be a valid accusation if I was always playing like that as town. But a simple meta check on my past games would have made her doubt.

In two games where I was town, I didn't push my scumreads hard, and almost got lynched for that in both games.
Newbie student Mafia XI => Day 1, I didn't hard push a scumread, defaulting to geript because I wasn't available at deadline. I was almost lynched D1 for that; if batsnacks hadn't found a non existent "slip" on geript, I would have been the lynch. That changed D2 when I started to play like usual.
The New Personality Mafia => Day 1, I didn't do shit. I was suspected heavily and almost lynched D2 for that; if yamato wasn't jester and rayn didn't create a stupid reason to townread yamato and hammer me, I was probably dead. That changed EOD2 when I started playing like usual.

And in the only game I was mafia:
Season of the Witch 2 => Day 1, I was the driving force on Dandel's push, and managed to get him mislynched.


BUT
Contrary to rsoultin, I know for a fact Moosy read the two town games referenced above. He was:
- playing in Newbie XI
- obsing the first days of personality

So Moosy should know I can act like that as town. Especially if I don't have the time to play at deadline, as it was the case both Newbie XI and in this game.


Sometimes people do forget and sometimes people misrepresent people although normally not on purpose and I see you think he's misrepresenting you correct? If so does that make him town or mafia?

That makes him mafia because the situation in both game were similar. In both games, I didn't push my scumread D1, but I voted on a mislynch.
In particular it is very similar to Newbie XI, which he was playing in. I defaulted to geript and left the thread. Exactly like D1 here, where I defaulted to coolTLname and left the thread. So him saying I'm mafia partly because I didn't push my scumreads hard enough is him using meta that he should know is false.

Okay anything else on why MD is mafia?
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
October 05 2015 13:05 GMT
#4313
On October 05 2015 22:02 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2015 22:00 LightningStrike wrote:
On October 05 2015 21:57 rsoultin wrote:
maybe i should just vote for shining and blame rayn if we lose lol >< since that's effectively what he's done

like i think i could talk till i was blue in the face and he'd still hold on to his biases...just hope i'm wrong, think i'm not, and call rayn bad at the end for scumreading and voting on only town

lol that may actually be okay ^^

rayn are you ever going to even attempt to listen to me or see me as town this game or should i just vote shining and say yolo? real talk right now

are you ever going to drop the tunnel on me or shining? or at least read what i'm doing with a neutral mindset?

Don't pull a me Tina
I did that a LYLO vs Unholyflare and someone else(I can't remember the name because it been sometime since I played that game) and you saw what happened -_-


well the problem here, ls

is if rayn has decided that shining is scum and he won't move for anything come hell or high water, and he's wrong...and i'm the only one who thinks he could be but he's certain that i'm scum cause he's a dimwit, so eh won't listen to me...then effectively town has already lost because scum just piles on there

like i'd like to think he'd be smart enough to go hey there's already 4 votes here maybe i'm wrong but i don't think he can look past his scumread on me

i could be wrong, too? i just don't think i am

Why is he not wanting to push for your lynch today when you are his biggest scumread?
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
October 05 2015 13:23 GMT
#4340
On October 05 2015 22:06 Rels wrote:
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On October 05 2015 22:03 LightningStrike wrote:
On October 05 2015 22:00 Rels wrote:
On October 05 2015 21:57 LightningStrike wrote:
On October 05 2015 21:53 Rels wrote:
On October 05 2015 21:47 LightningStrike wrote:
Something to note on Newbie Student Mafia XI: He did push for a Fake)Plant lynch before Fake)Plant had replaced out. He did default to a Geript lynch since he wasn't around EoD 1 there on Page 4 of his filter but then he played like his normal(I think). On New Personality he didn't really do much except for some mini cases until Night 2. so I can confirm that.

OK thanks. Now why do you think of Moosy playing Newbie XI and obsing personality, but still scumreading me because I'm not pushing my lynch hard enough ?
On October 05 2015 20:12 Rels wrote:
MoosyDoosy's reasons for scumreading me are partly based on meta that are easily disproved by a meta check; and Moosy read the town games that disproved this meta

On October 05 2015 04:44 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Rels - Completely different from how he normally acts. When pursuing a scum read, he drops it immediately after one explanation which is very uncharacteristic of Rels. He also changes around his story to match the situation. There is no way that screaming about a person's supposedly scummy behavior is supposed to be a "town read". The whole time he was arguing with me, he continuously tried to fish for things as well. At this point, his scum read on me is forced.


The part about "I should be playing smarter and push scumreads harder" are dismissed for the same reasons I've explained here.

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On October 05 2015 19:25 Rels wrote:
Most of this is based on the fact I should be playing smarter, and I should push my reads harder. This could be a valid accusation if I was always playing like that as town. But a simple meta check on my past games would have made her doubt.

In two games where I was town, I didn't push my scumreads hard, and almost got lynched for that in both games.
Newbie student Mafia XI => Day 1, I didn't hard push a scumread, defaulting to geript because I wasn't available at deadline. I was almost lynched D1 for that; if batsnacks hadn't found a non existent "slip" on geript, I would have been the lynch. That changed D2 when I started to play like usual.
The New Personality Mafia => Day 1, I didn't do shit. I was suspected heavily and almost lynched D2 for that; if yamato wasn't jester and rayn didn't create a stupid reason to townread yamato and hammer me, I was probably dead. That changed EOD2 when I started playing like usual.

And in the only game I was mafia:
Season of the Witch 2 => Day 1, I was the driving force on Dandel's push, and managed to get him mislynched.


BUT
Contrary to rsoultin, I know for a fact Moosy read the two town games referenced above. He was:
- playing in Newbie XI
- obsing the first days of personality

So Moosy should know I can act like that as town. Especially if I don't have the time to play at deadline, as it was the case both Newbie XI and in this game.


Sometimes people do forget and sometimes people misrepresent people although normally not on purpose and I see you think he's misrepresenting you correct? If so does that make him town or mafia?

That makes him mafia because the situation in both game were similar. In both games, I didn't push my scumread D1, but I voted on a mislynch.
In particular it is very similar to Newbie XI, which he was playing in. I defaulted to geript and left the thread. Exactly like D1 here, where I defaulted to coolTLname and left the thread. So him saying I'm mafia partly because I didn't push my scumreads hard enough is him using meta that he should know is false.

Okay anything else on why MD is mafia?

yes and you should have read it if you read the thread ?
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/494873-battle-of-the-drams-mafia?page=208#4150
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/494873-battle-of-the-drams-mafia?page=211#4217
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/494873-battle-of-the-drams-mafia?page=212#4223
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/494873-battle-of-the-drams-mafia?page=212#4224

So TLDR:
His static read on Shining doesn't make sense.
Weird way of thinking of the coolTLname lynching him regard of coolTLname's alignment.
Lying about being the first one to push coolTLname.
Calling you mafia for bad reasons plus misrepresenting your meta.
That what pretty why you scumreading him?
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
October 05 2015 13:28 GMT
#4348
I rather go for the easier fish atm Tina myself.
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
October 05 2015 13:55 GMT
#4366
On October 05 2015 22:39 Rels wrote:
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On October 05 2015 22:36 Rels wrote:
On October 05 2015 22:34 rsoultin wrote:
On October 05 2015 22:33 Rels wrote:
OK I've said why I thought rsoultin could be mafia. I only forgot to check one thing; I think she said D1 that we should not lynch Shining because he wasn't playing Monday / Tuesday; and she repeated it N2 or start of D3. Will do that now.
rayn I'm not seeing how rsoultin being "slow" is scum indicative. But the fact that Trfel 1. remarked the same thing and 2. died the next night is making me wonder about that
Then I'll need to do a sicklucker filter dive. rayn, I don't see how you can state he's not mafia, unless you're doing an associative read with rsoultin


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dude truffle was obviously townreading me last night there's no way that if i'm scum i nk'd him for his read on me ><

he said ls and shining were town because he trusted me for god's sake >< like if you want to call me scum it can never be for this

yeah but he called you out on the exact thing rayn is doing right now. And I'm not seeing how that makes anyone mafia, so that must be a meta based read.
anyway I'm asking that to rayn, of course you're going to deny it, as town or mafia.

actually I'm asking that to LS too. LS what's your pick on that ?

We both had seen Rayn tunnel as town before regardless of the alignment of the person he's tunneling. Anyways I will check what you trying to talk about so I get a better understand on what you trying to ask me.
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
October 05 2015 14:06 GMT
#4379
On October 05 2015 22:58 Rels wrote:
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On October 05 2015 22:55 LightningStrike wrote:
On October 05 2015 22:39 Rels wrote:
On October 05 2015 22:36 Rels wrote:
On October 05 2015 22:34 rsoultin wrote:
On October 05 2015 22:33 Rels wrote:
OK I've said why I thought rsoultin could be mafia. I only forgot to check one thing; I think she said D1 that we should not lynch Shining because he wasn't playing Monday / Tuesday; and she repeated it N2 or start of D3. Will do that now.
rayn I'm not seeing how rsoultin being "slow" is scum indicative. But the fact that Trfel 1. remarked the same thing and 2. died the next night is making me wonder about that
Then I'll need to do a sicklucker filter dive. rayn, I don't see how you can state he's not mafia, unless you're doing an associative read with rsoultin


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dude truffle was obviously townreading me last night there's no way that if i'm scum i nk'd him for his read on me ><

he said ls and shining were town because he trusted me for god's sake >< like if you want to call me scum it can never be for this

yeah but he called you out on the exact thing rayn is doing right now. And I'm not seeing how that makes anyone mafia, so that must be a meta based read.
anyway I'm asking that to rayn, of course you're going to deny it, as town or mafia.

actually I'm asking that to LS too. LS what's your pick on that ?

We both had seen Rayn tunnel as town before regardless of the alignment of the person he's tunneling. Anyways I will check what you trying to talk about so I get a better understand on what you trying to ask me.

sure. Rayn is supposedly doing a big post; if it's about the "rsoultin is too slow on evaluating certain things" stuff, it will be based on meta, so your thoughts are important, as you know rsoultin the best. At least I think ?

Honestly sometimes she's slow on evaluating certain stuff regardless of her alignment for example, In Carol of the Bells me and her didn't think HF was scum and it took us till like Day 5 or something like that to even lynch HF(HF=Holyflare if you didn't know) when he was scum. But that was back when we were noobs together.
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