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Just got into work. It's looking like a slow day here so I should have a lot of time to be here. But I will be alternating between here and the League Worlds group stages matches. If you're not watching, you suck.
On October 01 2015 07:35 Damdred wrote: Well Idk what scum motivation is if I'm scum going 1 for 1 is always town favored not scum favored. So Idk why I'm automatically scum for thinking it's highly suspicious if not unlikely that two roles exist like that
This is a good point. At first I thought it was interesting that this came from Damdred but I don't think he is scum. With the last scum game I saw him in and his lack of motivation there, I really don't think he would be confident enough to CC Scott as scum and then use this argument as a defense. It's too risky imo.
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On October 01 2015 08:05 MoosyDoosy wrote:Show nested quote +On October 01 2015 08:03 rsoultin wrote: there was a cc...read before you flame if i go back and see that you guys handled it improperly, there will still be flames.
This and all the preceding posts seem a bit forced. I would assume everyone that is town would be upset over EoD and a blue lynch but I don't see the purpose of this anger. You weren't even around for EoD so do you really have a right to be this mad? Feels more like just a show.
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On October 01 2015 11:09 LightningStrike wrote: Okay I just got home and WHY DID YOU FUCKING LYNCH SCOTT WHEN HE HAD CLAIMED ! SHOT TRACKER? I going to read now but I very pissed at you guys for lynching him.....
Another guy who wasn't even around at EoD and didn't read but chose to get all upset and yell. LS did have an excuse for not being around EoD but these reactions just don't feel too genuine.
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On October 01 2015 11:11 MoosyDoosy wrote: ok first step is to lynch coolTLname 100% D2. There is zero reason for him to have refused to listen to everything that people were stating against rsoultin. The ease with which he pulls out reasons to townread her disturbs me as well. This is most likely a case of TMI where he knows the alignments so finds it easy to be certain on this read.
Moosy falling farther down my list, tbh. So you agreed with me on my coolTL read which means you're aware of my reads but you didn't mention the fact that I have RSo as town. Technically I also refused to listen to the cases on her because I've played with her multiple times and I'm pretty sure she's town, even after everything. It reminds me of her back and forth with Geript in Student V and they were both town.
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On October 01 2015 11:16 MoosyDoosy wrote:Show nested quote +On October 01 2015 11:09 LightningStrike wrote: Okay I just got home and WHY DID YOU FUCKING LYNCH SCOTT WHEN HE HAD CLAIMED ! SHOT TRACKER? I going to read now but I very pissed at you guys for lynching him..... Perfect. I have questions for you. There is no way for you to have made this post unless you had actually been reading the thread up to that point: Show nested quote +On October 01 2015 05:59 LightningStrike wrote: Holy shit so many pages to read. Luckily I finally got back early from lab so I'm here right now I see we lynching either scott, rsoultin, and coolTLname. I really torn because I still think Tina is town scott I had nullish and coolTLname seems like a odd ball guy. So who you guys thin is the best lynch between Scott or coolTLname? scott hadn't actually been a serious lynch candidate except for in the eyes of rayn and had only been a recent development. coolTLname wasn't really being considered either until me and Shining posted about him. I'd like for you to explain how you got these people for your lynch list.
Bah this isn't a bad post. Moosy Y u do dis to me? This is the 2nd or 3rd time this game I've seen town points come from you after being suspicious of you. I'm really close to giving up reading this guy. =/
I'm just going to completely catch up before I say anything else because this is annoying.
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OK I lied. I don't want to forget posts after catching up.
On October 01 2015 11:20 coolTLname wrote:Show nested quote +On October 01 2015 11:11 MoosyDoosy wrote: ok first step is to lynch coolTLname 100% D2. There is zero reason for him to have refused to listen to everything that people were stating against rsoultin. The ease with which he pulls out reasons to townread her disturbs me as well. This is most likely a case of TMI where he knows the alignments so finds it easy to be certain on this read. how do u explain me getting lynched day 1 unless scott claimed tracker ? Does me having a TON of votes, very rapidly , seem mafia like to you? I was defending the most active townie who was about to get lynched by mafia, Did u notice how she didnt even vote up trfel because she thought he was town? Did u see her other mafia games where she plays 100% differently ? Do u realize she has the largest filter out of anyone in this game ? I could go on but u could also just check my filter.
You didn't get lynched d1 so that first argument is pretty moot because there is no way of knowing if you'd actually be lynched or if a GB wagon or RSo wagon wouldve picked back up. But the pile up of votes does seem pretty weird, unless scum really just gave up on defending you and decided to bus, which I do think is possible cuz of ur play, or unless Damdred was scum and CCd to save you but no offense, I don't think he'd find you worth doing that for.
Um, no. Am I the only one who thinks that statement is inaccurate? I thought Marv would be considered our most active townie, not RSo, seeing as RSo was suspected scum by some and Marv is almost universally TR.
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On October 01 2015 11:22 coolTLname wrote: Whatever, i honestly wanted to get lynched because playing with rayn was pretty distasteful. Calling him mafia does not warrant huge shit talking. Hopefully he gets a warning at least
Lol its rayn and this is a game, you've got to learn to take things with a grain of salt. And I didn't really views your willingness to get lynched as this but more as demotivated scum giving up. You only came back to attempt to vote Scott with the rest of us last minute, even though it didn't count. If you wanted to get lynched, you wouldn't have tried to get on that wagon but would have truly just afkd EoD.
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On October 01 2015 11:27 MoosyDoosy wrote: Also, coolTLname, I hope you realize rsoul was in no way confirmed town? At the start, she was as ambiguous as usual, and it took my shit fight with her to understand exactly what she was looking into. After that, she acted really scummy by changing reads for no reason which several people picked up on including me. Obviously both rayn and marv were too dense to listen to her explanation afterwards, but your unwavering support for her is really, really out of place.
OK calling rayn and Marv too dense to listen to her explanation after saying you picked up on her changing reads and found it scummy implies you agreed with the scumread but then listened to her explanation and believed it. Is this true?
If so, what's your current read on RSo?
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On October 01 2015 11:32 coolTLname wrote: yes this is all fine and good except for the fact that you think shes town. and im newer so my conclusions would obviously be less .. good. I guess i am what u ppl call "tunneling".
Anyways i've provided and researched plenty. For one ive actually read the whole thread and ive been calling out ppl on things they've missed. probably only 3 town are doing that.
Tunneling your townread? Is that what you mean? Because tunneling means pushing the same person for lynch without looking at anything else. I'm a bit confused what you mean.
2nd paragraph is vague. It's nice that you think you're one of the only ones calling people out on things and there are probably only 3 town doing so but who are these 3 town then?
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On October 02 2015 04:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On October 02 2015 04:43 The Shining wrote:On October 01 2015 08:05 MoosyDoosy wrote:On October 01 2015 08:03 rsoultin wrote: there was a cc...read before you flame if i go back and see that you guys handled it improperly, there will still be flames. This and all the preceding posts seem a bit forced. I would assume everyone that is town would be upset over EoD and a blue lynch but I don't see the purpose of this anger. You weren't even around for EoD so do you really have a right to be this mad? Feels more like just a show. Actually you are right here.. hmm.. I remember Moosy having totally unreasonable responses to the phase changes / near phase changes when he was scum.
Which game was that? I'd like to compare. Sorry I just now realized you guys are actually responding to my catch up posts lol
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On October 02 2015 04:53 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On October 02 2015 04:48 The Shining wrote:On October 01 2015 11:09 LightningStrike wrote: Okay I just got home and WHY DID YOU FUCKING LYNCH SCOTT WHEN HE HAD CLAIMED ! SHOT TRACKER? I going to read now but I very pissed at you guys for lynching him..... Another guy who wasn't even around at EoD and didn't read but chose to get all upset and yell. LS did have an excuse for not being around EoD but these reactions just don't feel too genuine. Yeah it makes sense. Like does he just look at the flip and assume we just decided "scott is not tracker but lying" without anything else happening or what?
Exactly. Instead of asking why did we lynch Scott, he could've just read and seen Damdred soft. Thing is,I don't think both Moosy and LS having weird reactions makes them both scum. If anything, Moosy did it first and it seems more likely LS echoed the sentiment since no one questioned Moosys reaction.
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On October 02 2015 05:01 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On October 02 2015 01:42 MoosyDoosy wrote: GB, whether you realize it or not, I was the first man to vote for coolTL and push for his lynch alongside The Shining. Second of all, I already said that we were lynching coolTL when I came back after EoD. Literally in the post you said was "dumb" I also said the order of lynch was coolTL/GB/Rels/LS. Are you sure you're reading..? That is just false. *I* was the first to push for coolTLname's lynch. Show nested quote +On September 29 2015 21:21 Rels wrote:This first post by coolTLname is super scummy. It is his first post, and he talks about a lot of differents subjects. A first post with different subjects is scum indicative as mafia usually has a hard time entering the thread. Plus, I don't know how GB's posts being mechanical and rayn's posts being mechanical are mixed up. Plus, he agrees on a Moosy's posts that I don't understand. Plus, he next post is scummy too: On September 29 2015 16:47 coolTLname wrote: So i noticed mafia can hold their KP, this makes claiming Roleblock and framing someone possible, as well as fake vet claims. Anyway i propose anyone who claims a blue role to be lynched automatically, if there is no kill , better to leave it in the dark?
Can medics heal themselves? Two useless questions. After that he posted one more time and gtfo. *I* was the first to vote for him. Show nested quote +On October 01 2015 00:35 Rels wrote:alright leaving work super soon. Voting coolTLname for this: On September 30 2015 05:52 Rels wrote:still this more or less: On September 29 2015 21:21 Rels wrote:This first post by coolTLname is super scummy. It is his first post, and he talks about a lot of differents subjects. A first post with different subjects is scum indicative as mafia usually has a hard time entering the thread. Plus, I don't know how GB's posts being mechanical and rayn's posts being mechanical are mixed up. Plus, he agrees on a Moosy's posts that I don't understand. Plus, he next post is scummy too: On September 29 2015 16:47 coolTLname wrote: So i noticed mafia can hold their KP, this makes claiming Roleblock and framing someone possible, as well as fake vet claims. Anyway i propose anyone who claims a blue role to be lynched automatically, if there is no kill , better to leave it in the dark?
Can medics heal themselves? Two useless questions. After that he posted one more time and gtfo. without the Moosy part Plus he has refused to explain his weird GF read on you, so I cannot know if he has a reasonning behind it Plus he's clearly trolling, I don't know why a town under suspicion would act like that. But Dandel did exactly that last game, so that makes me wary of lynching him We didn't talk about him a lot recently, but I haven't forgot him. I want to see rsoultin's case on GB though, the thing about Damdred's meta being wrong on purpose. See you! ##Unvote##Vote coolTLname Then GB voted him a few hours later: Then YOU voted for him a few hours later: So this sentence is bullshit: "GB, whether you realize it or not, I was the first man to vote for coolTL and push for his lynch alongside The Shining."
Hrm this is true. And although I started being suspicious of cool pretty early over the Marv non-read, I was actually the last to vote him. I wasn't even really pushing cool, I was still questioning him before I caught his chainsaw RSo defense.
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On October 02 2015 05:20 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On October 02 2015 05:11 The Shining wrote:OK I lied. I don't want to forget posts after catching up. On October 01 2015 11:20 coolTLname wrote:On October 01 2015 11:11 MoosyDoosy wrote: ok first step is to lynch coolTLname 100% D2. There is zero reason for him to have refused to listen to everything that people were stating against rsoultin. The ease with which he pulls out reasons to townread her disturbs me as well. This is most likely a case of TMI where he knows the alignments so finds it easy to be certain on this read. how do u explain me getting lynched day 1 unless scott claimed tracker ? Does me having a TON of votes, very rapidly , seem mafia like to you? I was defending the most active townie who was about to get lynched by mafia, Did u notice how she didnt even vote up trfel because she thought he was town? Did u see her other mafia games where she plays 100% differently ? Do u realize she has the largest filter out of anyone in this game ? I could go on but u could also just check my filter. You didn't get lynched d1 so that first argument is pretty moot because there is no way of knowing if you'd actually be lynched or if a GB wagon or RSo wagon wouldve picked back up. But the pile up of votes does seem pretty weird, unless scum really just gave up on defending you and decided to bus, which I do think is possible cuz of ur play, or unless Damdred was scum and CCd to save you but no offense, I don't think he'd find you worth doing that for. Um, no. Am I the only one who thinks that statement is inaccurate? I thought Marv would be considered our most active townie, not RSo, seeing as RSo was suspected scum by some and Marv is almost universally TR. that's nit picking, he surely meant that rsoultin have the most posts in the game
Not nit picking. It might have been nit picking if it was someone else but Marv has a sizeable filter, reads and a case on RSo and cool chose to call him irrelevant instead of giving a read on him. So he's ignoring another active big filter but towning RSo for it.
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On October 02 2015 05:24 MoosyDoosy wrote:Show nested quote +On October 02 2015 05:17 The Shining wrote:On October 01 2015 11:27 MoosyDoosy wrote: Also, coolTLname, I hope you realize rsoul was in no way confirmed town? At the start, she was as ambiguous as usual, and it took my shit fight with her to understand exactly what she was looking into. After that, she acted really scummy by changing reads for no reason which several people picked up on including me. Obviously both rayn and marv were too dense to listen to her explanation afterwards, but your unwavering support for her is really, really out of place. OK calling rayn and Marv too dense to listen to her explanation after saying you picked up on her changing reads and found it scummy implies you agreed with the scumread but then listened to her explanation and believed it. Is this true? If so, what's your current read on RSo? town because coolTL spewed her as it.
OK so town because coolTL spewed her as it but for no other reason? In a twisted world where cool flips town (I don't think he will but bare with me), what happens to that read? What about what I asked you regarding her explanation for her change in reads? Before cool spewed her town, did you think she was town?
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On October 02 2015 05:30 MoosyDoosy wrote:Show nested quote +On October 02 2015 05:29 The Shining wrote:On October 02 2015 05:01 Rels wrote:On October 02 2015 01:42 MoosyDoosy wrote: GB, whether you realize it or not, I was the first man to vote for coolTL and push for his lynch alongside The Shining. Second of all, I already said that we were lynching coolTL when I came back after EoD. Literally in the post you said was "dumb" I also said the order of lynch was coolTL/GB/Rels/LS. Are you sure you're reading..? That is just false. *I* was the first to push for coolTLname's lynch. On September 29 2015 21:21 Rels wrote:This first post by coolTLname is super scummy. It is his first post, and he talks about a lot of differents subjects. A first post with different subjects is scum indicative as mafia usually has a hard time entering the thread. Plus, I don't know how GB's posts being mechanical and rayn's posts being mechanical are mixed up. Plus, he agrees on a Moosy's posts that I don't understand. Plus, he next post is scummy too: On September 29 2015 16:47 coolTLname wrote: So i noticed mafia can hold their KP, this makes claiming Roleblock and framing someone possible, as well as fake vet claims. Anyway i propose anyone who claims a blue role to be lynched automatically, if there is no kill , better to leave it in the dark?
Can medics heal themselves? Two useless questions. After that he posted one more time and gtfo. *I* was the first to vote for him. On October 01 2015 00:35 Rels wrote:alright leaving work super soon. Voting coolTLname for this: On September 30 2015 05:52 Rels wrote:still this more or less: On September 29 2015 21:21 Rels wrote:This first post by coolTLname is super scummy. It is his first post, and he talks about a lot of differents subjects. A first post with different subjects is scum indicative as mafia usually has a hard time entering the thread. Plus, I don't know how GB's posts being mechanical and rayn's posts being mechanical are mixed up. Plus, he agrees on a Moosy's posts that I don't understand. Plus, he next post is scummy too: On September 29 2015 16:47 coolTLname wrote: So i noticed mafia can hold their KP, this makes claiming Roleblock and framing someone possible, as well as fake vet claims. Anyway i propose anyone who claims a blue role to be lynched automatically, if there is no kill , better to leave it in the dark?
Can medics heal themselves? Two useless questions. After that he posted one more time and gtfo. without the Moosy part Plus he has refused to explain his weird GF read on you, so I cannot know if he has a reasonning behind it Plus he's clearly trolling, I don't know why a town under suspicion would act like that. But Dandel did exactly that last game, so that makes me wary of lynching him We didn't talk about him a lot recently, but I haven't forgot him. I want to see rsoultin's case on GB though, the thing about Damdred's meta being wrong on purpose. See you! ##Unvote##Vote coolTLname Then GB voted him a few hours later: On October 01 2015 02:58 GlowingBear wrote: ##unvote ##vote coolTLname Then YOU voted for him a few hours later: On October 01 2015 05:38 MoosyDoosy wrote: ##unvote ##vote coolTLname So this sentence is bullshit: "GB, whether you realize it or not, I was the first man to vote for coolTL and push for his lynch alongside The Shining." Hrm this is true. And although I started being suspicious of cool pretty early over the Marv non-read, I was actually the last to vote him. I wasn't even really pushing cool, I was still questioning him before I caught his chainsaw RSo defense. Sigh I guess I'll respond to this too. It doesn't make a difference. Rels and GB's votes didn't do much to start the wagon . It was only after you and me voted for coolTL that the wagon actually started.
On October 01 2015 06:00 KelsierSC wrote:Day 1 Recall List rsoultin (2): Trfel, raynpelikoneet, marvellosity, , Rels, scott31337, GlowingBear (2): Damdred, coolTLname Trfel (2): GlowingBear, Rels, LightningStrike, sicklucker coolTLname (5): Rels, GlowingBear, MoosyDoosy, scott31337, TheShining raynpelikoneet (0): coolTLname, MoosyDoosymarvellosity (0): Damdred, scott31337 (1): marvellosity, raynpelikoneet, rsoultin, raynpelikoneet, sickluckerNot listing (1): rsoultin, Tonight, I will be banning coolTLname permanently for providing us with atrocious whiskey. Day 1 ends in at 22:00 GMT (+00:00).
The spirits recall list is here. Only votes on this list will be counted.
Please mind the deadline as failure to vote will result in a modkill. [/QUOTE]
But I was the last vote on that train...you were 3rd...neither of us started that train...why are you lying/misrepresenting?
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On October 02 2015 05:37 LightningStrike wrote: I mainly want to lynch MD mainly because some of his arguments actually not making much sense and he lied too on some of his posts.
This is true so far but can you elaborate on which points don't make sense?
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On October 02 2015 05:48 The Shining wrote:Show nested quote +On October 02 2015 05:37 LightningStrike wrote: I mainly want to lynch MD mainly because some of his arguments actually not making much sense and he lied too on some of his posts. This is true so far but can you elaborate on which points don't make sense?
Like are you sheeping thread sentiment like Moosy said or do you have examples of the lies and what doesn't make sense to you?
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On October 02 2015 05:38 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On October 02 2015 05:34 The Shining wrote:On October 02 2015 05:20 Rels wrote:On October 02 2015 05:11 The Shining wrote:OK I lied. I don't want to forget posts after catching up. On October 01 2015 11:20 coolTLname wrote:On October 01 2015 11:11 MoosyDoosy wrote: ok first step is to lynch coolTLname 100% D2. There is zero reason for him to have refused to listen to everything that people were stating against rsoultin. The ease with which he pulls out reasons to townread her disturbs me as well. This is most likely a case of TMI where he knows the alignments so finds it easy to be certain on this read. how do u explain me getting lynched day 1 unless scott claimed tracker ? Does me having a TON of votes, very rapidly , seem mafia like to you? I was defending the most active townie who was about to get lynched by mafia, Did u notice how she didnt even vote up trfel because she thought he was town? Did u see her other mafia games where she plays 100% differently ? Do u realize she has the largest filter out of anyone in this game ? I could go on but u could also just check my filter. You didn't get lynched d1 so that first argument is pretty moot because there is no way of knowing if you'd actually be lynched or if a GB wagon or RSo wagon wouldve picked back up. But the pile up of votes does seem pretty weird, unless scum really just gave up on defending you and decided to bus, which I do think is possible cuz of ur play, or unless Damdred was scum and CCd to save you but no offense, I don't think he'd find you worth doing that for. Um, no. Am I the only one who thinks that statement is inaccurate? I thought Marv would be considered our most active townie, not RSo, seeing as RSo was suspected scum by some and Marv is almost universally TR. that's nit picking, he surely meant that rsoultin have the most posts in the game Not nit picking. It might have been nit picking if it was someone else but Marv has a sizeable filter, reads and a case on RSo and cool chose to call him irrelevant instead of giving a read on him. So he's ignoring another active big filter but towning RSo for it. so honestly when you first brought this up i figured eh...to expect a new player to go through marv's past games is kinda ridonculous and he didn't actually say he would then he went through mine, so i get where you're coming from with this tbf though, i don't actually find it particularly scummy to concentrate on lynch wagons and try to push for consolidation rather than going every which way? like maybe i'm reading it wrong, but calling marv irrelevant when you're pushing for consolidation makes sense in that context (not in a general one) am i making sense? his certainty on me is the offputting thing, really
Right. I didn't even pick on it too much until I saw him do the exact same for you. And although he didn't specifically say he would, his post was along the lines of "if Marv is good in past town games, he could be scum here", implying Marv wasn't good at the time which implies he could be scum. If you're hunting scum and that crosses your mind, it would make sense that he'd actually look into whether town Marv is good in past games.
It makes sense if he was looking to consolidate but he defended your townread way more than he pushed GB and rayn, his scumreads.
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On October 02 2015 05:40 MoosyDoosy wrote:Show nested quote +On October 02 2015 05:37 The Shining wrote:On October 02 2015 05:24 MoosyDoosy wrote:On October 02 2015 05:17 The Shining wrote:On October 01 2015 11:27 MoosyDoosy wrote: Also, coolTLname, I hope you realize rsoul was in no way confirmed town? At the start, she was as ambiguous as usual, and it took my shit fight with her to understand exactly what she was looking into. After that, she acted really scummy by changing reads for no reason which several people picked up on including me. Obviously both rayn and marv were too dense to listen to her explanation afterwards, but your unwavering support for her is really, really out of place. OK calling rayn and Marv too dense to listen to her explanation after saying you picked up on her changing reads and found it scummy implies you agreed with the scumread but then listened to her explanation and believed it. Is this true? If so, what's your current read on RSo? town because coolTL spewed her as it. OK so town because coolTL spewed her as it but for no other reason? In a twisted world where cool flips town (I don't think he will but bare with me), what happens to that read? What about what I asked you regarding her explanation for her change in reads? Before cool spewed her town, did you think she was town? Ok read progression? I didn't understand what she was saying at the start of the thread so I pushed her for it. I was satisfied with her explanations and then town read her. Then she made a weird change in her reads and I scum read her for it while marv/rayn pushed her. I was satisfied with her explanations and then town read her. Then she did another weird read change with GB and now has practically no direction which is a scum trait from her. So my read on her is currently deteriorating from town. However, I still hold that coolTL will flip scum and spew her town. In the case that doesn't happen I'll have to re-read the game again although I think I have a good idea as to where to look.
Yeah you picked up on that I was asking for. Read progression. So you've flipped back and forth between town and scum on her a bunch of times. That's questionable, since I know scum has a hard time pushing and maintaining scumreads.
Can you answer my post regarding the vote and train?
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On October 02 2015 05:43 MoosyDoosy wrote: As I've explained for multiple times now, this is around the time that I head home so I will do so.
Oh right OK see ya when ya get home, ill be here pretty much all day lol
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