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On October 03 2015 11:04 The Shining wrote:
Meh. I've just spent the last few hours at work dealing with a death threat from a drunk delivery guy and cops. I'm not really in the mood to be here right now but w.e.
I'm done talking about cool. I'm almost as sure as I've ever been on anything that he'll flip scum and the whole "you're a liar" "no, you're a liar" between him and rayn has gotten really old really fast. Scum or not, he's right in that we should really stop focusing on him.
RSo, do you remember how you caught scum Trfel d1 in Student V?
yeah, his push on ls was horrid and wasn't something he'd ever say as town, essentially
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On October 03 2015 11:15 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On October 03 2015 11:04 The Shining wrote:
Meh. I've just spent the last few hours at work dealing with a death threat from a drunk delivery guy and cops. I'm not really in the mood to be here right now but w.e.
I'm done talking about cool. I'm almost as sure as I've ever been on anything that he'll flip scum and the whole "you're a liar" "no, you're a liar" between him and rayn has gotten really old really fast. Scum or not, he's right in that we should really stop focusing on him.
RSo, do you remember how you caught scum Trfel d1 in Student V? yeah, his push on ls was horrid and wasn't something he'd ever say as town, essentially
I thought it was him snap voting geript at the start of the game for some bull about a self imposed 10 post limit per phase before weirdly backing off of it.
The reason I'm asking is because although he claims it was a joke, he did go out of his way to put it into the voting thread and was looking for reactions. He's your top suspicion right now so I'm wondering if you see any similarities between that game and this one.
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On October 03 2015 11:21 The Shining wrote:Show nested quote +On October 03 2015 11:15 rsoultin wrote:On October 03 2015 11:04 The Shining wrote:
Meh. I've just spent the last few hours at work dealing with a death threat from a drunk delivery guy and cops. I'm not really in the mood to be here right now but w.e.
I'm done talking about cool. I'm almost as sure as I've ever been on anything that he'll flip scum and the whole "you're a liar" "no, you're a liar" between him and rayn has gotten really old really fast. Scum or not, he's right in that we should really stop focusing on him.
RSo, do you remember how you caught scum Trfel d1 in Student V? yeah, his push on ls was horrid and wasn't something he'd ever say as town, essentially I thought it was him snap voting geript at the start of the game for some bull about a self imposed 10 post limit per phase before weirdly backing off of it. The reason I'm asking is because although he claims it was a joke, he did go out of his way to put it into the voting thread and was looking for reactions. He's your top suspicion right now so I'm wondering if you see any similarities between that game and this one.
yeah i poked at him for that but it was the ls thing that really solidified it. there was no way in hell he could believe what he was saying
eh
truffle has ninja-voted me before in the vote thread as town and ninja-unvoted me without posting a damn thing, for which i've tunneled him
he's a bit of a dolt that way so i'm not sure it means anything tbh?
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like if we're talking about truffle's read on me departing from his normal town play, it's actually that he often ignores me when he's not sure as town
he clearly wasn't sure this game but somehow managed to leave his vote on me all day through alternating jokes and serious reads
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On October 03 2015 10:52 coolTLname wrote:
Ive caught rayn in numerous lies and hes just tunneling hard on me because hes angry and super narcissistic , so he will never refute his claims.
Has asked to prove even a a single one. Doesn't.
Meanwhile...
On October 03 2015 09:09 coolTLname wrote:
## vote glowing bear
good night frands
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On October 03 2015 11:38 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On October 03 2015 10:52 coolTLname wrote:
Ive caught rayn in numerous lies and hes just tunneling hard on me because hes angry and super narcissistic , so he will never refute his claims. Has asked to prove even a a single one. Doesn't. Meanwhile... good night frands
nite :/
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OK thank you. I was just revisiting that because I said I'd filter him a while ago and I'm finally getting around to it.
That second post is a pretty interesting point but I'm not sure it makes him scum if he's the dolt you say he is lol. But the alternating between jokes and srs reads is shifty, I agree, although Rels also called him out for that and he addressed it here so I don't want to look too much into that.
On September 30 2015 11:37 Trfel wrote:Show nested quote +On September 29 2015 17:42 Rels wrote:On September 29 2015 07:28 Trfel wrote:On September 29 2015 07:25 rsoultin wrote:
btw truffle nope ^^ i only skimmed it cause yawn lol you can keep your shitty vote Hm, I kind of actually think you are mafia now..... But I can't decide if I should push or wait..... @Trfel is this a serious post if it is I find super weird the fact that most posts before and after this one are funny posts OK after I finish catching up I'll do a Trfel's filter dive to check if my feeling is right. But I definitely have the feeling there is a contradiction in tone progression in Trfel's posts, something like funny => one serious => funny => one serious => funny If you think that me alternating between being serious or funny is a sign that I am mafia, then I have no more words for you. To be honest, depending on how that's applied, it's probably the easiest way to read me. Since apparently I wasn't clear: I started out by voting rsoultin as a joke. Then I started being a bit suspicious of rsoultin, but not enough that I wanted to actually push it (at least until I reread things). Before I was able to reread things, rsoultin made some posts that were contrary to the assumptions I had made for some of my suspicions of her, and then I realized a few flaws in my suspicions. So I wasn't very suspicious of her any more). Clear enough?
He also has posts where he talks himself in and out of points that he'd scum you for but then calls you scum after. There's also a lot of moments where he blatantly admits he wasn't reading the thread. I'm not sure if I think scumTrfel would put these things into the thread to be picked at if he was scum, unless he's just yoloing this game and trying new things.
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On October 03 2015 11:43 The Shining wrote:OK thank you. I was just revisiting that because I said I'd filter him a while ago and I'm finally getting around to it. That second post is a pretty interesting point but I'm not sure it makes him scum if he's the dolt you say he is lol. But the alternating between jokes and srs reads is shifty, I agree, although Rels also called him out for that and he addressed it here so I don't want to look too much into that. Show nested quote +On September 30 2015 11:37 Trfel wrote:On September 29 2015 17:42 Rels wrote:On September 29 2015 07:28 Trfel wrote:On September 29 2015 07:25 rsoultin wrote:
btw truffle nope ^^ i only skimmed it cause yawn lol you can keep your shitty vote Hm, I kind of actually think you are mafia now..... But I can't decide if I should push or wait..... @Trfel is this a serious post if it is I find super weird the fact that most posts before and after this one are funny posts OK after I finish catching up I'll do a Trfel's filter dive to check if my feeling is right. But I definitely have the feeling there is a contradiction in tone progression in Trfel's posts, something like funny => one serious => funny => one serious => funny If you think that me alternating between being serious or funny is a sign that I am mafia, then I have no more words for you. To be honest, depending on how that's applied, it's probably the easiest way to read me. Since apparently I wasn't clear: I started out by voting rsoultin as a joke. Then I started being a bit suspicious of rsoultin, but not enough that I wanted to actually push it (at least until I reread things). Before I was able to reread things, rsoultin made some posts that were contrary to the assumptions I had made for some of my suspicions of her, and then I realized a few flaws in my suspicions. So I wasn't very suspicious of her any more). Clear enough? He also has posts where he talks himself in and out of points that he'd scum you for but then calls you scum after. There's also a lot of moments where he blatantly admits he wasn't reading the thread. I'm not sure if I think scumTrfel would put these things into the thread to be picked at if he was scum, unless he's just yoloing this game and trying new things.
tbh i can't remember if he does that or not as scum, shining
he and moosy are last on my list to go through lol >< but i didn't really mean the switch off between joking and serious itself being scummy...him managing to stay on me in one form or fashion all day, alternating between serious and joking, is odd
rayn thinks he's somehow townie for questioning his counterwagon, coming to half-baked wishy washy conclusions that give him the excuse to keep his vote there when it's quite obvious that truffle benefits from not moving his vote from my wagon lol >< but yeah there are a few other things i want to check with him anyway so stand by
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okay here's my problem
like, i'm down to moosy and trfel
and moosy/gb/rels are almost never ever going to be scum with cool...sicklucker seems rather unlikely as well given even though he didn't push as much on cool as the other three, the only one left is truffle and he did push hard on him
basically, to believe in a cool = mafia world, you have to believe that he's being bussed since d1 @.@ or that his two scummates for whatever reason decided to attack each other in the middle of the day phase
it's just not very likely, is it?
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No rush, I'm leaving work anyway. I just finally started on his filter and am trying to get a grasp on him because he seems aloof but I don't really have a good grasp on how to read him from past games. Figured id ask you, since youre the one with him as top suspect. That is a good point, though, even through all his posts, he didn't find a reason to come off of you.
And that's after he started pressuring SL for a while before once again saying he would revisit it after he was caught up. So he pressured without being caught up. That looked a bit weird to me. And you were one of the ones explaining SL's townread because his reads were SL-centric. He chose to believe you enough to back off but still kept his vote on you. Meh.
I'll finish with the filter when I get home. Bbl
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lol and then asked me later about my sl read again for that matter xP
eh disregard the above post. without cool isn't really any different
@.@ hard game is hard
mafiosos were probably bussing one another or at least throwing scum at each other d1 tch lol ><
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just gonna ignore possible groupings and focus on individuals again. probably shouldn't have departed from that to begin with\
bueno
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Day 2 Recall List
coolTLname (7): raynpelikoneet, sicklucker, GlowingBear, MoosyDoosy, The Shining, Rels, LightningStrike
GlowingBear (1): coolTLname
Not listing (3): rsoultin, Trfel, Damdred
Tonight, I will be banning coolTLname permanently for providing us with atrocious whiskey.
Day 2 ends in at 22:00 GMT (+00:00).
The spirits recall list is here.
Only votes on this list will be counted.
Please mind the deadline as failure to vote will result in a modkill.
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nvm lol
trfel probably isn't scum...part of my problem was he seemed to drop his push on me after i explained my gb read for the umpteenth time, and i thought i'd already explained that exact thing to him but it was to someone else @.@
i mean, i still find it odd that he ends up falling asleep in the middle of the afternoon and i don't get why he needs someone to be here to read filters but i don't think it means as much as i originally thought it did
disregard
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Amazing Reads of (not so amazing cause some weird shit is going on @.@)
Strong Town
Damdred - tone, reaction to scott's claim matches up with having a role, plus i'm just the ian-whisperer so 
LightningStrike - that outburst too real
Prob Town
Rayn - the probing into everything is classic rayn, and he's at least being cooperative with those he's not tunneling so there's that lol ><
Shining - just everything in his filter is super pointed and follows a clear train of thought, plus the occasional emotional stuff
Trfel - yeah, looking into everything and pushing things, the self-deprecation, all of it's pretty free-flowing, just don't be lazy please or i'll have to beat you with a wet noodle for irritating me
GlowingBear - despite the early focus on just truffle and damdy he did eventually branch out, plus EoD plus some of the things he's said this day phase look pretty townie to me...even if he were going to not lynch scott as scum i don't see him being that vocal about it honestly
Eh...townlean-nullish-i'm an indecisive dullard
sicklucker - i still feel that the freeflow is pretty townie? the problem is i'm not terribly good at reading him and there are bad associative reasons that make me not want to put him higher...lack of reading comprehension is not exactly uncommon for sicklucker, it's true, but there's also the matter of saying he actually read my filter yet saw no reads when i've posted lists multiple times. even he can't have that much trouble reading my posts to miss them. so eh
scumlean
MD - i still maintain that his segways during the day phase without really giving reads on GB, trfel and myself were pretty ridiculous. i guess i could see town doing this, cause vivax has a habit of it, but it's just really removed from the goings on of the thread while everyone else is scrabbling, and he's not commenting on the main wagons but sitting off to the side with a thumb up his ass. then of course demanding credit for cool pre-flip doesn't sit well, either. but his reasons for the scumread at least aren't horrible
scummy
rels - while i like that he seemed to evaluate me just fine and with a particular neutrality, i have a very big problem with his reason for scumreading cool, not to mention his pissing off and placing his vote on a random player not being voted and not returning until much later. his original reasons weren't bad, but now he's focused on this horrible he's not really a newbie thing, he's actually a smurf cause of what he said about gb not reading the thread? cool never said that. moreover the "knowing" gb thing is bad as well, given cool's explanation was fine. rels could not believe it, but someone as intelligent as he is i would think would be pushing cool for much more relevant reasons (and they do exist)
cool - much as i'd love to say that i'm obvious town to anyone with a brain, i don't really think i was given the empirical evidence. the TMI accusation is strong. that said, i'm sensitive to this particular accusation because people like to throw that at me when i'm town, assuming i can't get a better read off someone than they can without being mafia. but the "suspicion" on scott without ever one bringing it up, and after even townreading j roc (by association, but still, you never expressed any doubts that he could be scum) just doesn't match up. neither does your renewed rayn is lying! shit after you already said you thought he's town
so yeah i'm aware that scum in the bottom four is a bit counterintuitive but whatever. the reads are largely independent of one another
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-rolls around the thread-
well i'll be around for a bit longer but i think i have this place to myself lol ><
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On October 03 2015 13:11 sicklucker wrote:
that was a 180
yeah that's kinda what happens when you reread the entire game xP
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Okay, I think it maybe about time I start trying to think about who to lynch.
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