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Trfel
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On October 03 2015 13:47 Trfel wrote: One hour and 22 minutes later, he starts to catch up on the thread XDOkay, I think it maybe about time I start trying to think about who to lynch. | ||
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Rels
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On October 03 2015 15:09 Trfel wrote: One hour and 22 minutes later, he starts to catch up on the thread XD  Around if you want to talk about stuff | ||
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Rels
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On October 03 2015 05:22 coolTLname wrote: so i posted this after my can doc heals themselves question I think mafia is more likely to notice this , and it appears my dumbtell worked (although maybe a little too well =( ) Anyways i was hoping to get shot by pretending to be medic lol That's your explanation for asking a dumb question you should know the answer ? I don't believe it, especially since you repeated it several times. How is mafia more likely to spot blue hunting ? And it's weird you're not denying that what you were doing | ||
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Trfel
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How long are you staying up for? It'll probably take me a while until I have anything to talk about  | ||
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Rels
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On October 03 2015 15:23 Trfel wrote: Sure, I'd love to! How long are you staying up for? It'll probably take me a while until I have anything to talk about Until this afternoon so at least 4-5 hours | ||
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Rels
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On October 03 2015 13:02 rsoultin wrote: scummy rels - while i like that he seemed to evaluate me just fine and with a particular neutrality, i have a very big problem with his reason for scumreading cool, not to mention his pissing off and placing his vote on a random player not being voted and not returning until much later. his original reasons weren't bad, but now he's focused on this horrible he's not really a newbie thing, he's actually a smurf cause of what he said about gb not reading the thread? cool never said that. moreover the "knowing" gb thing is bad as well, given cool's explanation was fine. rels could not believe it, but someone as intelligent as he is i would think would be pushing cool for much more relevant reasons (and they do exist) I don't understand this. My original reasons still exist, even if among those the only strong one is the different subjects in one post. But I've found something inconsistent ; him asking a dumb question about medic when he should know better. In other words, dumb telling. Now he explained this by saying he tried to subtly claim medic to attract a shot. Do you really believe it ? | ||
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Trfel
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I haven't entirely caught up with the thread yet, but here's a rough summary of where I'm at... Not lynching rsoultin today for three reasons. One, she's probably town, two, her filter is too long for me to look at, and three, I feel really bad for asking the same question a billion times, looking at her answer and deciding to double check it later, and then forgetting about it and asking again. No clue about MoosyDoosy, need to investigate. Not lynching GlowingBear because I think he's obviously town due to thread involvement and activity. I should re-evaluate him later, but not for this lynch, I think. Note that if rsoultin is mafia, GlowingBear could look much worse. Not lynching raynpelikoneet today because I can't, even if I thought he were mafia. I don't think I want to lynch LightningStrike, but I should look through his filter. Probably not lynching Rels, but I should look through his filter. Sicklucker's posts drive me insane, so I'll do my best to avoid reading them. I'm not making a read on Damdred. No clue at all about The Shining, apparently his filter is 6 pages, so that should be enough to get a good read. I should probably read that. I don't think I want to lynch coolTLname, I think that all of the "suspicious" and "scummy" things about him are more likely caused by him being new. I also don't see why his play is any more likely to come from mafia than from town. I will definitely read through his filter, but that is my impression from reading the thread. If you have any reads that differ significantly than mine, please share. | ||
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Rels
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CoolTLname has made a dumb tell that he knows proclaims to be intentional. If he was town he would have seen that it is obvious its weird. Only a mafia could think maybe this could be believable Moosy tried to steal credit for being the first to vote and to push me. I might have spotted another contradiction but he s not answering my question, so I'm waiting for that to go further Shining because it was the only really different read between rayn and Marv, if you don't count the "not definite reads" Marv had at night. So nk may indicate he s mafi. Plus I agree with whoever he s not doing much apart from talking about coolTLname. I didn't read his filter though so I need to do that Still in my bed though so ask if you need more details; I'll do it when I get up and get to my pc :p I m super interested by your reads on moosy and shining | ||
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Rels
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Trfel
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On October 02 2015 12:18 coolTLname wrote: he even claimed roleblocker night 1 , btw. And damdred is roleblocked all of a sudden. so i guess my onnly real read is GB right now. And whoever said i was role hunting 101 with the "can medics heal themselves" question is my #2 suspect On October 02 2015 12:18 coolTLname wrote: These posts, for example.because mafia would be thinking.. Hey is this guy actually the medic?? so they would notice that post | ||
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Trfel
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On October 03 2015 15:48 Rels wrote: What was this specific dumb tell that you refer to about coolTLname? I may not have gotten to it yet, but if there's one that's more significant than the others, it would be nice if you could point out which one.Don't agree on coolTLname, and I'm suspicious of moosy and shining CoolTLname has made a dumb tell that he knows proclaims to be intentional. If he was town he would have seen that it is obvious its weird. Only a mafia could think maybe this could be believable Moosy tried to steal credit for being the first to vote and to push me. I might have spotted another contradiction but he s not answering my question, so I'm waiting for that to go further Shining because it was the only really different read between rayn and Marv, if you don't count the "not definite reads" Marv had at night. So nk may indicate he s mafi. Plus I agree with whoever he s not doing much apart from talking about coolTLname. I didn't read his filter though so I need to do that Still in my bed though so ask if you need more details; I'll do it when I get up and get to my pc :p I m super interested by your reads on moosy and shining To me, the night kill is best explained as mafia trying to clear out the thread leadership. I didn't feel like marvellosity had many strong reads. But marvellosity is clearly the leader, raynpelikoneet would likely follow him in the end. One thing is that raynpelikoneet was constantly insisting that rsoultin and coolTLname are town, and marvellosity wasn't. That is another possible reason that marvellosity would be night killed, probably a much more likely one than The Shining being the reason. I'll let you know when I have more. | ||
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Rels
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On October 03 2015 15:50 Trfel wrote: Several of coolTLname's posts seem to show a town thought process, even if they don't arrive at the same conclusions that I would.These posts, for example. I don't agree About the first quote: the rb shit is a townie thought. The role hunting thought is not. Why would someone accusing of role hunting be mafia ? I don't follow the town reasoning here About the second quote: I really don't believe anyone as town could think a bait like that could work. It is so obvious. Plus I think he s a lurker reader, and that would makes this even worse; but people don't seem to believe. Even with the assumption he s newbie, this medic bait is just so obvious I don't believe he would do it as town wanting to take a bullet. I think it is more likely he is a mafia trying to be a townie trying to take a bullet; because in this double mindset situation, the fact that this medic claim is so obvious is not a visible. | ||
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Rels
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On October 03 2015 15:53 Trfel wrote: What was this specific dumb tell that you refer to about coolTLname? I may not have gotten to it yet, but if there's one that's more significant than the others, it would be nice if you could point out which one. To me, the night kill is best explained as mafia trying to clear out the thread leadership. I didn't feel like marvellosity had many strong reads. But marvellosity is clearly the leader, raynpelikoneet would likely follow him in the end. One thing is that raynpelikoneet was constantly insisting that rsoultin and coolTLname are town, and marvellosity wasn't. That is another possible reason that marvellosity would be night killed, probably a much more likely one than The Shining being the reason. I'll let you know when I have more. I'm talking about the "can medic shoot at night?" Question from his early posts Rayn insisted that rsoultin and coolTLname were town ? He was saying that cool was town at deadline, and I think he reversed this read at night. Will check the exact timing. Rayn never insisted that rsoultin was town I think ? | ||
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Trfel
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On October 03 2015 16:01 Rels wrote: Mafia, mafia, mafia...I'm talking about the "can medic shoot at night?" Question from his early posts Rayn insisted that rsoultin and coolTLname were town ? He was saying that cool was town at deadline, and I think he reversed this read at night. Will check the exact timing. Rayn never insisted that rsoultin was town I think ? Town = mafia  Maybe I should go to sleep.... | ||
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Rels
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On October 03 2015 16:02 Trfel wrote: Mafia, mafia, mafia... Town = mafia Maybe I should go to sleep.... Oh that makes sense :p Yeah rayn had stronger scumread on rsoultin and coolTLname. But I think Marv was scumreading them both too. A little hard to know when he was so vague at night, but OK fuck it. Explaining without quote is shit, wait a minute I'm getting up | ||
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Trfel
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If he's mafia, he's getting super bussed here. I don't think anyone has even tried to make a second wagon. And he knows it, there's really no reason to keep playing. There's no way he would try for as long as he did. I'm very confident that coolTLname is town. I don't even think I have to reread his filter... And Rels, for the posts I was talking about, I think that he's more likely to post that as town than as mafia. That's simply a thought that mafia would want to keep in the QT and they probably wouldn't want to post it in the thread. Furthermore, the discussion about roles is something very common in SC2 Arcade Mafia, so I think it's actually quite fitting to come from town with that in mind. | ||
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Trfel
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CoolTLname is town!!! | ||
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Rels
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I agree that it's a bus and it's weird, actually that's why I switched off him last night. But I'm pretty sure he said several times now he wouldn't bother coming back, and if that's the case your argument is flawed wait a minute I will quote some things | ||
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Trfel
7015 Posts
On October 03 2015 16:15 Rels wrote: No, my argument isn't flawed, he would have quit much, much, much, much earlier if he were mafia. He wouldn't have stuck through all of those arguments with raynpelikoneet. My argument is strong.lol I agree that it's a bus and it's weird, actually that's why I switched off him last night. But I'm pretty sure he said several times now he wouldn't bother coming back, and if that's the case your argument is flawed wait a minute I will quote some things | ||
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Rels
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+ Show Spoiler + On October 03 2015 02:54 Rels wrote: Read marv's filter and here are the reads I got. I was super hard to understand his thoughts as he was super vague about them last night; so if you spot a mistake please correct it. Town: rayn, Damdred. Maybe town: LS. Maybe scum: Shining, coolTLname. Not definite reads: Maybe scum: rsoultin, Rels, Trfel, GB, sicklucker. All of these apart from rsoultin and sicklucker comes from this post: But we don't really know where he stand at night. He kinda rescinded his Trfel's scumread: He kinda rescinded his rsoultin's scumread: He said nothing about GB. He said this about me: The sicklucker's maybe scumread comes from this: So the only person missing is Moosy. Not much infos appart from the fact that he voted him early in the day. So if we compare it to rayn's read at deadline: WTF is this a 28 pages filter On October 02 2015 05:47 raynpelikoneet wrote: My filter that contains the cases on who i think is scum; http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/494873-battle-of-the-drams-mafia?user=raynpelikoneet&page=16 starts from ~half of that page (N1). coolnamedude is mafia. rsoultin is mafia. LighntningStrike is mafia in that order of confidence. MoosyDoosy could be mafia if one of them magically happens to flip town. I literally do not believe there is any chance for anyone else in this game to be mafia. The differences are: - stronger thoughts overall - marv's scumread on Shining - rayn's scumread on LS | ||
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