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sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
October 02 2015 12:30 GMT
#3041
On October 02 2015 12:02 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2015 11:59 MoosyDoosy wrote:
did anyone notice he literally revokes everything he said and did in that post of his...


look, seriously...the guy is already being railroaded

let him talk freely and don't ping him like this. rayn's approach where he throws zingers and sarcasm is both demoralizing and tilting at once, and if cool is town, this is not the way to help him show that to us


thats pretty townie
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 02 2015 12:32 GMT
#3042
On October 02 2015 21:30 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2015 12:02 rsoultin wrote:
On October 02 2015 11:59 MoosyDoosy wrote:
did anyone notice he literally revokes everything he said and did in that post of his...


look, seriously...the guy is already being railroaded

let him talk freely and don't ping him like this. rayn's approach where he throws zingers and sarcasm is both demoralizing and tilting at once, and if cool is town, this is not the way to help him show that to us


thats pretty townie

I don't see how this is townie at all.
Just because Moosy's post is 100% right.

Like should we not call scummy things scummy or what do you suggest?
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rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
October 02 2015 12:32 GMT
#3043
On October 02 2015 21:29 raynpelikoneet wrote:
rsoultin i have one simple yes/no question to you.

Do you think it's reasonable that you have been flip-flopping about my alignment for the whole game when you yourself repeatedly say you need to re-read me (and do nothing about it -- but STILL change your read on me from time to time?!?!?), say you are gonna do that re-read now (or as the next thing -- yes i can prove that), and you are supposed to be the "best player in this game (besides marv)" in reading me, as you yourself claim?


yes

i can see why it bugs you, but if you can't see that i was townreading you before your blind tunnel on me and that that tunnel when you'd been pushing scott might have an effect on how i was reading you, i'm not really sure how to make you see it

you saw how i struggled with palmar's alignment in gaiden 2 even though i originally thought he was pretty town, when he decided just to tunnel me -shrugs-
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
October 02 2015 12:32 GMT
#3044
On October 02 2015 12:12 rsoultin wrote:
i'll have questions after my read-through

:/ still depressing y'all want to scumread me for my methods without being curious what they actually are lol

so i'll just lay them out for you guys and maybe that'll help you understand why i fluctuated as much as i did and am being really neutral right now

day ones i try to get townreads off general personality (tone/meta) type reads...if i can get a scumread off that (i.e. someone is behaving really outside the norm) i'll latch onto it like a bulldog but that doesn't always happen. sometimes it's just little doubts here and there and a collection of people i don't want to lynch

night one is usually the time for vca...i do mine differently than others on the site do. it works to some extent even with town flips. essentially i go through everyone's filters and see their read progressions and how they line up with their voting, add that in to context and what i know of them and shake out a reads list, but more importantly a ranking from there

^ this is what i haven't been able to do yet and i don't think a bunch of reads based on personality from d1 and general impressions/faulty memory 147 pages in will really do anyone any good. it will come tomorrow evening and i'm hoping to find some yummy things there ^^


but this post is what I dont get about you. this is a useless post. I read the first half then I realized what its about and I stopped reading because I know its another waste of time post. Like this thread is not a place to leave your autobiography we want reads. I dont even know what a vca is
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 02 2015 12:33 GMT
#3045
And btw i was being really fucking reasonable at least during N1 towards that guy.
I tried, he threw it out of the window. So yeah, there is that.
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sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
October 02 2015 12:36 GMT
#3046
On October 02 2015 12:15 coolTLname wrote:
i still think GB is maf , same reasons as before.

i honestly havent had the energy or time (defending myself) to read other people.

i believe trfels story

i dont agree with this guy
Show nested quote +
On September 30 2015 12:05 sicklucker wrote:
shining is so town it hurts. never seen him post before let alone a post that big when he bizzy

i suspect shining. shouldnt u think the opposite? or at least 50-50

Im gnona find whoever posted the role hunting 101 thing and anaylze him,

And the voting thread, i suppose it was odd the votes were tied 4-4 and that makes my hard claim of rsoultin look bad but i had many reasons , like rsoultin not voting trfel , being very actively reading , and even looked up her past 2 games where she was just flirty and not useful as mafia.

and the ppl i suspected, GB and rayn were voting AND they were just very silent, like they felt very relaxed and didn't care. Anyway like i said i eliminated rayn so that leaves GB. I read that GB usually posts like a crack addict, but he doesnt done anything, YET hes clearly been .. here the whole time. the way he voted and his poor conclusions and reads make me suspect him. And shortly after he received 3 votes a HUGE train came upon me of like 7 ppl.


i agree theres some new reasons to suspect shining. that read was based on his start which was very strong. I think everyone agreed on that
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
October 02 2015 12:37 GMT
#3047
On October 02 2015 21:33 raynpelikoneet wrote:
And btw i was being really fucking reasonable at least during N1 towards that guy.
I tried, he threw it out of the window. So yeah, there is that.


eh it's your approach i think, rayn, tbh, not specifically what you're saying
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
October 02 2015 12:37 GMT
#3048
On October 02 2015 12:18 coolTLname wrote:
he even claimed roleblocker night 1 , btw. And damdred is roleblocked all of a sudden.

so i guess my onnly real read is GB right now. And whoever said i was role hunting 101 with the "can medics heal themselves" question is my #2 suspect


dont you think thats too obvious tho? mafia might have already submitted there actions to roleblock dandred if thats what happened. If your mafia who plans to roleblock dandred do you think you jokingly claim that role in thread?
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 02 2015 12:38 GMT
#3049
why exactly would you suspect shining, sl?
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rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
October 02 2015 12:38 GMT
#3050
On October 02 2015 21:32 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2015 21:29 raynpelikoneet wrote:
rsoultin i have one simple yes/no question to you.

Do you think it's reasonable that you have been flip-flopping about my alignment for the whole game when you yourself repeatedly say you need to re-read me (and do nothing about it -- but STILL change your read on me from time to time?!?!?), say you are gonna do that re-read now (or as the next thing -- yes i can prove that), and you are supposed to be the "best player in this game (besides marv)" in reading me, as you yourself claim?


yes

i can see why it bugs you, but if you can't see that i was townreading you before your blind tunnel on me and that that tunnel when you'd been pushing scott might have an effect on how i was reading you, i'm not really sure how to make you see it

you saw how i struggled with palmar's alignment in gaiden 2 even though i originally thought he was pretty town, when he decided just to tunnel me -shrugs-


down under 2 my bad

the last one with ows

anyway!

i'm gonna stop posting now sorry guys lol ><
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 02 2015 12:39 GMT
#3051
On October 02 2015 21:37 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2015 21:33 raynpelikoneet wrote:
And btw i was being really fucking reasonable at least during N1 towards that guy.
I tried, he threw it out of the window. So yeah, there is that.


eh it's your approach i think, rayn, tbh, not specifically what you're saying

yeah obviously, when rayn tries to be reasonable let's take all the things he has said and call it an "approach" but when someone else does the same thing "give him some room".

And then people call this townie.
You are good at saying what people want to hear, i admit that.
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sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
October 02 2015 12:39 GMT
#3052
On October 02 2015 12:34 coolTLname wrote:
Wait it jsut occured to me that Marv would have been killed for a reason. I think u all assume .. well fuck it marvs rly good but he might have said something that really incriminated mafia so they killed him off. Regardless there must be a reason they thought he was so smart to kill n1, he proved it somehow


not necessarily but its possible. kind of wifmo which im never against but marvs always the most likely nk if hes town.
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
October 02 2015 12:40 GMT
#3053
On October 02 2015 12:44 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2015 12:34 coolTLname wrote:
Wait it jsut occured to me that Marv would have been killed for a reason. I think u all assume .. well fuck it marvs rly good but he might have said something that really incriminated mafia so they killed him off. Regardless there must be a reason they thought he was so smart to kill n1, he proved it somehow


marvellosity is hands down one of the best players on the site. he was universally townread...and i don't really recall him pushing anything in particular? though this is back to murky memory here

assuming that this is correct, what his night kill suggests if anything is that scum is very comfortable with the atmosphere of the thread right now. which suggests to me that either you're town or scum is happy to buss the living shit out of you and has given you up for dead

nk analysis isn't terribly strong this early in the game, tbh


lol you dont remember him pushing you super hard? now your posting scummy again
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
October 02 2015 12:43 GMT
#3054
On October 02 2015 21:40 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2015 12:44 rsoultin wrote:
On October 02 2015 12:34 coolTLname wrote:
Wait it jsut occured to me that Marv would have been killed for a reason. I think u all assume .. well fuck it marvs rly good but he might have said something that really incriminated mafia so they killed him off. Regardless there must be a reason they thought he was so smart to kill n1, he proved it somehow


marvellosity is hands down one of the best players on the site. he was universally townread...and i don't really recall him pushing anything in particular? though this is back to murky memory here

assuming that this is correct, what his night kill suggests if anything is that scum is very comfortable with the atmosphere of the thread right now. which suggests to me that either you're town or scum is happy to buss the living shit out of you and has given you up for dead

nk analysis isn't terribly strong this early in the game, tbh


lol you dont remember him pushing you super hard? now your posting scummy again


at the time of his death he clearly thought i was town, sicklucker. please keep context in mind
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
October 02 2015 12:45 GMT
#3055
On October 02 2015 21:39 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2015 21:37 rsoultin wrote:
On October 02 2015 21:33 raynpelikoneet wrote:
And btw i was being really fucking reasonable at least during N1 towards that guy.
I tried, he threw it out of the window. So yeah, there is that.


eh it's your approach i think, rayn, tbh, not specifically what you're saying

yeah obviously, when rayn tries to be reasonable let's take all the things he has said and call it an "approach" but when someone else does the same thing "give him some room".

And then people call this townie.
You are good at saying what people want to hear, i admit that.


an approach is how things are said, rayn, not what is said
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
October 02 2015 12:50 GMT
#3056
On October 02 2015 21:38 raynpelikoneet wrote:
why exactly would you suspect shining, sl?


his vote on scott. like i said mafia was probably pushing that and I dont think your mafia. There has to be mafia in there
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 02 2015 12:51 GMT
#3057
On October 02 2015 21:43 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2015 21:40 sicklucker wrote:
On October 02 2015 12:44 rsoultin wrote:
On October 02 2015 12:34 coolTLname wrote:
Wait it jsut occured to me that Marv would have been killed for a reason. I think u all assume .. well fuck it marvs rly good but he might have said something that really incriminated mafia so they killed him off. Regardless there must be a reason they thought he was so smart to kill n1, he proved it somehow


marvellosity is hands down one of the best players on the site. he was universally townread...and i don't really recall him pushing anything in particular? though this is back to murky memory here

assuming that this is correct, what his night kill suggests if anything is that scum is very comfortable with the atmosphere of the thread right now. which suggests to me that either you're town or scum is happy to buss the living shit out of you and has given you up for dead

nk analysis isn't terribly strong this early in the game, tbh


lol you dont remember him pushing you super hard? now your posting scummy again


at the time of his death he clearly thought i was town, sicklucker. please keep context in mind

this is just a straight out lie.
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sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
October 02 2015 12:51 GMT
#3058
rstoul i just read your posts. and I learned nothing about your reads on this game. they are absolutely filler. Like you are the filler posting champion. Like you are the god
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 02 2015 12:52 GMT
#3059
On October 02 2015 21:50 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2015 21:38 raynpelikoneet wrote:
why exactly would you suspect shining, sl?


his vote on scott. like i said mafia was probably pushing that and I dont think your mafia. There has to be mafia in there

I don't understand, can you elaborate further?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 02 2015 12:52 GMT
#3060
On October 02 2015 21:51 sicklucker wrote:
rstoul i just read your posts. and I learned nothing about your reads on this game. they are absolutely filler. Like you are the filler posting champion. Like you are the god

OHHH SOMEONE GETS IT! <3
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