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On October 07 2015 21:54 Half the Sky wrote: OMG!!!!! Celestial!!!! <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 Hey there HtS ♥ | ||
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On October 10 2015 04:07 The Shining wrote: Show nested quote + On October 10 2015 00:33 Half the Sky wrote: On October 09 2015 11:47 The Shining wrote: I'll probably regret this. /confirm... You'll only regret it if Celestial endgames you. Oh wait a minute now... *runs* ![]() I know, I know, I'm such a troll... LOL inb4 I roll scum and get my revenge Scum confirmed. ##Vote:TheShining | ||
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Okay let's see what we've got. Filter look over for everyone for some reads. Not an awful lot to go on but I can try for a few things: Eversince - Quite like her posting. Being very pushy and unafraid, but also finding her footsteps in terms of mafia games on this forum. Assuming a genuine new player, I don't think a new player posts so fearlessly. Have a townread for now. MoosyDoosy - Opens up with an agreement over OO over the long posts thing and goes on about it a bit too. Possibly a tiny bit scummy but on the whole largely NAI given that there's not much else to talk about early on. After that goes on a good roll of asking questions and making comments. Seems really towny to me. sicklucker - From what I've seen in the past sicklucker can be a nightmare to read and quite rapid-fire and random. That being said he doesn't try to earnestly solve the game and worry at things that don't fit. Which is kinda what I'm seeing here. Plus has the same air of "I don't care, whatever" I've seen before. Fecalfeast - No particularly huge issues here. Some reads with some explanations. Poking at a few things that don't seem to fit. Like Kel seems a little lazy but not obvious scum. Probably town barring a decent explanation from Vivax. KelsierSC - Random stuff. Just posts "I agree with Onegu" and admits is reluctant to jump in. Bit sloppy but honestly I'm not sure its mafia based. Feels a lot more like "welp, I dunno for now; I'll look back when people have posted stuff". ObviousOne - I'm not entirely liking ObviousOne either. The first couple of posts were leading off down a merry road of talking about what kind of posts are going to be made. Okay I appreciate there's not a lot to talk about initially and someone has to start somewhere but it seems a bit...I dunno. To pick that subject in particular feels a bit like preemptively making excuses for having a different style compared to previous games. That being said I can kind appreciate the sentiment. Also seems to be being pretty open on the whole. Can't scumread right now. Although that may be bias because I played my previous game like that as town, by openly suggesting to people how they could interpret what I'm doing as scum and being honest about it. I can't read as scum yet, but I'm not seeing an awful lot that's town. The Shining - Posted nothing yet. Has an excuse but still...nothing to go on. Policy lynch at best, expecting something at some point. For now this just has to be null. Onegu - Handful of posts. I always, always dislike people entering with "I'm VT" because its literally what everyone is going to say so it comes across as a weird forced way of planting the idea in people's minds instead of showing that you're VT through actions. That being said I kinda like what I see in terms of picking up and pressing on Gumdrop a bit but with only a handful of things said and not a huge amount to go on I can't do much more than a null. Stoicism_ - Challenged OO...somewhat unnecessarily in my opinion...over the "longer posts" conversation. Whole thing just seems waffly. Going nowhere and helping nobody but makes him look tough and challenging people early. Since then posted nothing. New player so for now I'll give the benefit of the doubt but want to see something better soonish. Gumdrop - Comes in. Makes an excuse, then goes "I am here now though, so lets catch some scum." and delivers absolutely nothing at all off that comment in five hours since then. What the hell? Don't like, at all. Vivax - Bit of a dick move with the fake end of day thing against the newbie. On the whole posted a bunch of random stuff, fluff and one-liners. Picks out one of FF's posts as being "not like him" but I'm not a huge fan of meta reads in general. That being said if there's any follow up here I could maybe be convinced given that I've played with FF before so I've got my own experience of his play to think on. My problem is a lack of a solidly constructed argument. I've been in previous games with players doing this, just throwing stuff out and half-explanations. I'll have to think. I could see this as either an attempt to prod at people looking for a weak link on the more experienced players for an easy mislynch or a genuine feeling of unease. For now its a very, very tentative red read. I really don't like this casual approach to "yeah, he's scum because it doesn't look right" without a decent explanation backing it. If you've got a decent idea that you appear to be seeing something that few other people are then start case building and help them see it. Don't just throw it out as a "yeah guys, vote this way and we catch a scum". marvellosity - Really weak so far. Just a lot of nonsense and sort of flirting with Eversince. Pure random posting and not really engaging with anyone much except a jab at sicklucker. Really don't like the lack of trying to solve the game here. I think that's everyone covered. | ||
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marvellosity on the other hand actually has something of a filter, but there's sod all in it. His entire filter amounts to this: I'm going for a haircut, I'll miss stuff. Don't think of anything so far except I love Eversince. Lol, nice one, Eversince. Lol, Gumdrop. I don't like sicklucker going on Eversince for basically nothing (which I agree with but whatever, its an easy comment to make). My haircut stuff! Moosy challenged me about my Gumdrop comment so I'll back down. I don't have any more opinions. Random stuff. | ||
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On October 11 2015 09:32 -Celestial- wrote: I'll explain the Moosy thing better in a min, playing DOTA2 Finished. Won. ![]() Anyway. Moosy. Stream of consciousness when flicking through his filter: He opens with comments on the whole "long post thing" which is just eh. *Shrug* I don't like that whole path of conversation really but I'm willing to wave it off as "lets just talk about anything to get started". Still, I'm keeping what people said there in mind. Then he starts making comments on who he does and doesn't like. Talks to Eversince about previous experience and stuff. Asking question of Vivax. Silly vote on sicklucker that seemed a bit of a joke. Agree with his read on Eversince. Joke comment at Vivax. Seems pretty relaxed. Then asking of Eversince, fairly light question but interesting implications. Somewhat agree with two other townreads though not the one on Vivax. Asking Kels about OO, gathering opinions is fine. Good comment with respect to Eversince as a possible alt. Dunno about the Stoicism one. Prodding sicklucker for info. I like. Talking about Gumdrop. Still asking questions. Stuff about the fake end of day thing. Good logic on Eversince read. Summary: I don't get any scum feel from his filter. Honest questions looking for information. No feeling of trying to deliberate drive the thread at someone. Doesn't really feel like he's playing the "I'm town, everyone is town, isn't that nice?" game either. Seems to be genuinely trying to figure things out. I'm honestly not getting where people are getting scum vibes from here. | ||
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On October 11 2015 10:08 ObviousOne wrote: Celestial: voting the AWOL guy. Has a big paragraph by my name that could have just said NAI. [association based on unflipped players ahead ![]() Er...you might want to check again. I've not actually voted for anyone yet. I got scumfeel on Gumdrop, Vivax and marvellosity but no vote. Please don't lie. | ||
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On October 11 2015 10:26 MoosyDoosy wrote: I am being very scummy -Celestial-. Based on meta or something? I dunno, I'm seriously confused right now as to what everyone is getting at. | ||
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On October 11 2015 10:34 Eversince wrote: Let's lynch Celestial. Go for it if you really think that. But you're still town. ![]() | ||
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On October 11 2015 10:40 Vivax wrote: Show nested quote + On October 11 2015 10:20 Eversince wrote: On October 11 2015 10:19 Vivax wrote: On October 11 2015 10:04 MoosyDoosy wrote: hm...the ease with which I'm getting townreads worries me. @Eversince, explain why you want to kill me? On October 11 2015 09:58 Eversince wrote: On October 11 2015 09:47 Vivax wrote: ~Rolls eyes~Eversince the fact that you think everyone who does controverstial stuff is mafia is acceptable for a newbie but it's mostly the other way around. Mafia doesn't care about having fun or solving the game for the majority of players, Ha. what? The primary goal of mafia is for them to get town to lynch eachother. they just see their shitty PM and know they have to hide something and start trying to play as appeasing as they can without rustling anyone's jimmies Total bogus This is very true actually. Mafia wants to make townies mad at each other and make townies make lynches on each other. They want to stay back in the shadows as much as possible. Christ it's not even what I said, she edited the quote Do explain,,,, What's there to explain? Can't you even remember what you posted? He takes something YOU said and puts it as if it's something as I said arguing that it's true. Just an FYI I think this is just a misunderstanding: as I understood her post she edited in HER comment to your post, in red to make it clear. But it made it look a bit like she was highlighting something you said in doing so rather than quoting verbatim and leaving her comment afterwards. | ||
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On October 11 2015 10:36 Eversince wrote: Like a said a while before... "many hooks" Sorry but I can't help but comment on this because I can't get this thought out of my head: all I can think is that you're saying I'm a pirate. X-D | ||
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On October 11 2015 17:21 Onegu wrote: Also @celestial didn't we just play in a game and I claimed VT and we went through the same thing. I don't recall playing with you before to be honest. The last game I played in was back in April/May in Newbie Student IX. Before that I played in Newbie Mini LX and I was Co-Host for Newbie Student X. I can't spot you on the lists for any of those. Might have been someone else. The closest we got to playing together was Newbie Student XI where you were Host and I asked for Obs. ![]() I just don't like the whole thing. Its not a big deal though unless people start hammering away at it (last I played I completely lost patience with ritoky, for example, because of his habit of screaming from the rooftops "I'm town" over and over whilst doing bugger all to actually show it). | ||
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On October 12 2015 05:16 Eversince wrote: Hrmph. That actually happened quite a while ago. Why is it still true? Because he's been AWOL for 22 hours now with his last post being "wibble". Frankly if he actually turns up and doesn't get some damn good things done I'd be very tempted to drop my vote on him. If he DOESN'T turn up then he'll probably get modkilled at this rate. | ||
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On October 12 2015 05:32 Eversince wrote: Show nested quote + On October 12 2015 05:25 -Celestial- wrote: On October 12 2015 05:16 Eversince wrote: Hrmph. That actually happened quite a while ago. Why is it still true? Because he's been AWOL for 22 hours now with his last post being "wibble". Frankly if he actually turns up and doesn't get some damn good things done I'd be very tempted to drop my vote on him. If he DOESN'T turn up then he'll probably get modkilled at this rate. mhmm. I agree. What do you feel about everyone else? Last few pages? Eh. not a huge amount has changed for me. Both you and Moosy come across as actually doing stuff. Although I didn't like the whole thing about "lets just throw out a vote" before giving some reasoning. I like Onegu a fair bit more than I did previously. I could be convinced on OO though. Some interesting stuff come out there. Personally at first I was giving the benefit of the doubt because he felt a bit similar to how I played when I was last town but I'm wondering if that's just left me with an inherently favourable bias and I'm missing the warning signs. | ||
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As a small note on Gumdrop that's been playing in my mind: he's disappeared since his first in-game post. I've actually played with Gumdrop briefly in the past in Newbie Mini Mafia LX. We were both scum side and after a day or so he just upped and disappeared and was replaced with scott. I'm not saying that his disappearance makes him scum, though its possible, but I kinda feel he won't be coming back... Anyway I'm getting increasingly fed up with marvellosity's absence to be honest. He posts garbage and faffs about and then disappears. I checked the rules and because he's posted this day cycle it means he's not in violation of the rules and therefore won't get modkilled. I can see him dropping in ten minutes before the deadline with some excuse, posting up a bunch of half-hearted reads and then sheeping someone else as an easy pass to D2 because everyone in thread is too busy tearing into each other. Personally I'm not prepared to let it go that way so easily, so some more pressure is in order. ##Vote: marvellosity | ||
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On October 12 2015 09:56 Fecalfeast wrote: Also who said they got cities: skylines at the start of this game? This game is ruining my life, it eats time like I eat food. I eat a lot of food. Well I didn't say but I've got it as well. I've not played it since June though. Anyway I'm...kind of out of things to say at this point. Either marvellosity comes back absolutely oozing town from every pore or someone comes up with a good case on a different option...or I just stay on him for the lynch. *shrug* :-\ | ||
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On October 12 2015 09:59 The Shining wrote: It's simple maths. Whoever doesn't fight or isn't angry by D3 is obvscum. Not necessarily true. In my first game I threw an absolute wobbler over Tubesock's Spanish Inquisition, claimed Doctor in an apparent fit of pique and then spent basically the rest of the game sulking; all of which got me out of a lynch and persuaded everyone not to lynch me the day after either. And I survived as Mafia RB. X-D | ||
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On October 12 2015 10:12 The Shining wrote: I actually hate this recent meta thing where anger = town. Yeah its pretty easy to just fake it really. But its hard to decide which is which. In any case...anyone got any more thoughts or are we just going to be waiting on seeing if marvellosity turns up? Because if he really doesn't come back then this might get awkward. He hasn't voted so realistically he could be looking at a modkill, so it'd be a wasted lynch. :-\ | ||
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On October 12 2015 10:17 MoosyDoosy wrote: -Celestial-, are you a boy or girl? Sorry if you answered this earlier. I'm a boy. But I'm not too bothered what people refer to me as. X-D | ||
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On October 12 2015 10:23 The Shining wrote: Show nested quote + On October 12 2015 10:18 -Celestial- wrote: On October 12 2015 10:17 MoosyDoosy wrote: -Celestial-, are you a boy or girl? Sorry if you answered this earlier. I'm a boy. But I'm not too bothered what people refer to me as. X-D Oops my b Don't worry about it. I bet I'd look great in a frilly dress anyway, so call me what you want. ![]() | ||
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On October 12 2015 11:52 Eversince wrote: Show nested quote + On October 12 2015 10:27 -Celestial- wrote: On October 12 2015 10:23 The Shining wrote: On October 12 2015 10:18 -Celestial- wrote: On October 12 2015 10:17 MoosyDoosy wrote: -Celestial-, are you a boy or girl? Sorry if you answered this earlier. I'm a boy. But I'm not too bothered what people refer to me as. X-D Oops my b Don't worry about it. I bet I'd look great in a frilly dress anyway, so call me what you want. ![]() I got this cute little black summer dress from the shop. I bet you'd look spiffy in it! Hey...you're going to make me blush. Anyway...to play devil's advocate here a bit I have one question to ask about this case against Shining: to what end? What would be the point of Shining's play here? Marv is totally dead in the water. He's not here. He might even get modkilled or replaced if he's not back in time to vote. Its a very, very easy bus to get on as mafia and if he's really not about he's not worth going out of your way to save...better to get the towncred for being on a correct lynch and let everyone WIFOM all over the VCA during night time. What's the best case scenario here for scumShining and scumMarv with that play? Shining gets FF mislynched and marv either comes back or gets replaced. But because Shining was central to the FF lynch he's under heavy scrutiny and marv (or replacement) is under equal suspicion for doing bugger all for most of D1. They end up as top two high-priority lynch candidates for D2 and when one flips red I think the next gets lynched the day after. Its a hugely risky play. I mean correct my logic if I'm wrong here, by all means. If you're all certain I guess I'll review Shining's filter tomorrow before the deadline. I have to go to bed in a minute, its approaching 5am here. We got just over 21 hours before the vote ends by my reckoning so...we'll see what happens. Also a vote count would be great about now so we can see where we are. | ||
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You're right about the contradictions though. Like I said, I'll have another look at the filter tomorrow. @Eversince: I honestly think that Gumdrop is just not going to come back and will get replaced. He's done it before. Anyway, bedtime. Goodnight. | ||
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On October 12 2015 12:51 Eversince wrote: I dun' see the tie in for Shining and Marv scum team. Both look iffy to me but how are you connecting em'? I'm not exactly. Its not a read. I was running a thought experiment on it to try to work out the logic progression. My point is that if Shining is scum his voting on FF only really makes sense if marv is also scum, because its a ploy to keep an option open to save marv if he suddenly comes back. And I'm questioning why scum!Shining ever does that given that scum!marv has done literally nothing so far. It would seem to be a really bad mafia play to me. And borderline suicide to attempt. Why make such a risky move to maybe try to save someone who isn't even about? | ||
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On October 12 2015 13:00 -Celestial- wrote: Show nested quote + On October 12 2015 12:51 Eversince wrote: I dun' see the tie in for Shining and Marv scum team. Both look iffy to me but how are you connecting em'? I'm not exactly. Its not a read. I was running a thought experiment on it to try to work out the logic progression. My point is that if Shining is scum his voting on FF only really makes sense if marv is also scum, because its a ploy to keep an option open to save marv if he suddenly comes back. And I'm questioning why scum!Shining ever does that given that scum!marv has done literally nothing so far. It would seem to be a really bad mafia play to me. And borderline suicide to attempt. Why make such a risky move to maybe try to save someone who isn't even about? Just as a small elaboration to that bit highlighted: If Shining is scum then there are four possibilities for FF and marv - 1. town!FF + town!marv 2. scum!FF + scum!marv 3. scum!FF + town!marv 4. town!FF + scum!marv If 1 then why would he even bother opposing thread sentiment on marv? It doesn't matter overmuch to scum!Shining which of two townies get mislynched. If 2 then I'd expect him to be looking for an entirely different target. If 3 then...well that's just weird and hella risky given the gamestate. The situation is quite fluid, there's a very real risk of him successfully getting a scummate lynched. 4 would seem to be the only logical option. Right now I really MUST sleep. Night. ![]() | ||
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On October 12 2015 13:17 Eversince wrote: Why can't Shinin' be scum with Marv? Oh, he can be. Sorry I didn't make that clear. Its just that if they ARE scumbuddies its an incredibly dangerous mafia play he's making to try to save someone who hasn't even been around and who everyone thinks is dirty as hell. It just doesn't make sense to me for him to take that risk. | ||
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Unfortunately I think marv will flip red. Which means an awful lot more thinking will be required to work out any assocations. I planned on going to sleep approaching an hour ago now. X-( Okay, I'm turning my computer off. Laters. | ||
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On October 13 2015 02:10 Eversince wrote: Taking the leap, I'm wrong on Obvious, what's wrong with a Gum, Shining and Marv mafia scum group? Because Shining could have secured easy town points by simply bussing marv who was nowhere in sight. Instead he made an incredibly risky play by saying he's staying on FF despite conceding that he felt marv was a more likely scum; even without marv actively playing at the time. If Shining is scum then that play is borderline suicide because marv might die anyway and he's made himself a priority D2 candidate for lynch. The safest play as scum!Shining there is to just go along with thread sentiment, vote marv whilst simultaneously setting up a few more people he has fake scumfeel on. That way if marv doesn't come back then he hasn't stuck his neck out too far and if marv does come back he still has an out to try and him to get votes off him. As it stands Shining made a play that made him look bad and now has a bunch of people breathing down his neck now. As well as marv who, on the whole, hasn't come across as all that convincing since coming back. In short: If Shining is mafia with marv then his play has put heavy suspicion on two mafia players instead of just having it on one. Which is a poor mafia move no matter how you cut it. I don't think any scum ever makes a play like that unless its total desperation by the mafia team. Which is a very weird thing to do D1 with such a fluid situation. I still think Gumdrop is just gone and won't come back. I don't think that's necessarily a scumtell though. *shrug* | ||
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What I THINK Shining is trying to get at is this: - The case on marv is a stronger case. However the case is, at least in part by many, a meta read and meta is a poor way to judge. - The case on FF is a weaker case. But its based more specifically on reads from the game, so the actual evidence itself is a better way to judge. Its the difference between getting a strong answer from a weak method vs a weaker answer from a strong method. | ||
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On October 13 2015 02:56 MoosyDoosy wrote: -Celestial-, do me a favor and look at P3 of Shining's filter? Tell me what you think of the contradictions and waffliness in them. Stream of consciousness: - Part of the initial argument with ES. Honestly to me that whole thing just feels town on town. Uninformative. - Comments about anger and rage in mafia TL. Then funny comment to me. Nothing much there. - "Starting to warm up to the marv lynch". Says FF is giving counterarguments to what he claimed. Marv better lynch than FF. - Comment on people not playing. NAI. It was winding me up too. - Replies to you well about FF's counterarguments. Don't have a problem with this bit. The next bit is admittedly a bit weird: he says marv is a good lynch but is staying on FF because FF is on marv which to him means that he's wrong about one of them. This is faulty logic to me. marv is nowhere in sight at this point. It makes perfect sense for FF to bus him if they're scumbuddies. It doesn't have to be either/or, they definitely could still both be scum. That being said it doesn't feel especially scummy to me. Maybe a little, but more like just a questionable leap in logic. - Calls you town. Fairly easy call to make at that point I think. - Stuff about pocketing. Tangentially related to the game but eh. - Conversation with FF about his reads. He's convinced one of FF and marv is scum and effectively states that even without a marv flip he has enough on FF to make him believe he's scum. Which is fine as a position to take as far as I'm concerned but I'm not really convinced by the argument against FF honestly. Nor am I convinced that only one of FF and marv HAS to be scum. - Gets somewhat unnecessarily aggressive in a follow up about the pocketing. Seems a bit weird; although his point is sound. Nobody is going to admit to pocketing. - Reiterates that he thinks FF is scum. Goes onto the "marv is a better lynch" thing again. But as I stated in my earlier post I kinda think that this is a case of "weak method with strong indicators vs strong method with weak indicators" and poor phrasing. - Knocking you down in estimation for claiming he's voting marv. Eh. Standard. Tries to explain what I just said in the point above. - Criticises FF for changing his vote from one scumread to another. Which I do actually find a bit weird honestly. FF might be scum, but he's not scum based on that. - Last few posts seem to largely be him getting mad at you for not understanding the point he's trying to make. Capped with an OMGUS vote. Conclusion? There's some weird stuff going on but not enough for me to make a scum call on it. I'd null lean scum on him right now, but since I can follow his train of thought (even if others can't) and it appears to make sense I'm not going to lynch him D1. I really don't like where he's going on the FF thing though. Overnight I might reread FF's filter. | ||
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On October 13 2015 03:29 MoosyDoosy wrote: I'm going to wait on what Kelsier says and then make a decision. If he think I've been tunneling too, I'm going to have to accept that Shining made a terrible contradiction and play that made so sense and that he should be allowed to get away with it. But I'm still going to keep an eye on him. Don't get me wrong I don't think you've got NO case. I'm very interested to see who flips and what info we get out of that. But I just don't find it entirely convincing. Like I said, I can kinda see where he was going with it and it looks more like a poor explanation than a scum play. | ||
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On October 13 2015 03:47 KelsierSC wrote: There are situations where a townie is being piled on and people will come to their defence to gain credit. For me the people who were coming to his defence, in a round about way -snip- Probably at least one scum in that group of 4. I was somewhat defending Shining over the last few pages because I think I can understand his train of thought and I can see where the misunderstanding is. Why am I not on your potential list here? I know you've said you like my posting before but even so that was quite some time ago now. | ||
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I'm not living in a world right now here Moosy is scum. I'm just not. He's town. OO I'm less sure about, but it doesn't feel right. marv literally comes into the thread, posts a pile of junk, buggers off for most of the day, saunters back in to drop a handful of extremely unimpressive posts, drops his vote on FF who is never getting lynched today anyone, throws a short list of reads out, none of which are particularly controversial to my eye, and then pisses off again; saying he'll be around in plenty of time for the deadline and he's not goddamn here. And yet somehow "oh he's really, really dangerous, he's a N1 kill for mafia because reasons so we shouldn't lynch". Sorry but what? In what world is this guy a priority N1 kill for mafia? | ||
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On October 13 2015 09:29 sicklucker wrote: also he can still be mafia and derped I don't think he did. I think that was honest because it seemed to be in his post. He posted this as he changed: "Now I'm lynched unless someone else votes marv, but them's the breaks." It was deliberate. | ||
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On October 13 2015 09:45 sicklucker wrote: Show nested quote + On October 13 2015 09:43 -Celestial- wrote: Actually skimming Stoicism's post I could MAYBE warm up to a shennanie onto him. Its arguably even worse than marv's. What's holding me back is that he's (seemingly) completely new which makes it a little harder to damn him for not getting stuck in as much. I AGREE WITH YOU MARV IS SUPER SCUMMY. but if hes town he will be nked like 90% of the time. We want to keep him around at least 1 day. Like its math and very good for town in mana reasons. if hes mafia it will be aparently obvious as time passes and we will still lynch him. Stocism posted 6 paragraphs we will probably never get a great read on him and this is a plus on deciding who we lynch day 1. We really need your vote to move this Fine. I don't think I'm going to persuade anyone to get on marv now anyway and I don't like the OO train much. But if marv doesn't get killed N1 and he doesn't seriously turn it up on D2 then I'm parking my vote there and never moving it until he dies. ##Unvote: marvellosity ##Vote: Stoicism_ | ||
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On October 13 2015 10:02 sicklucker wrote: na its not that bad it might even be pro town I meant its more a shame that he stopped playing again. X-D Guy seems to sign up and then just...vanish. | ||
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But I'm pretty certain at least one mafia is off that train and has their vote elsewhere. | ||
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On October 13 2015 10:06 MoosyDoosy wrote: So we definitely have a cop and we may or may not have a Doc/Veteran. I'd prefer if people didn't advise blues to do stuff. Although the roleblocker is now gone, a Mafia might be trying to influence the blues and I want to avoid that as much as possible. ??? Why definitely have a cop? Vig shoots EoN, right? TMI?!? | ||
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On October 13 2015 10:10 sicklucker wrote: Show nested quote + On October 13 2015 10:04 -Celestial- wrote: Anyway I give it like a 50-50 chance that there's a mafia on Stoicism. It seems a fairly easy bus to make, even as a shenanie because he's just not been around forever. And I can imagine at least one mafia trying to be around for EoD. But I'm pretty certain at least one mafia is off that train and has their vote elsewhere. Vote logic says me you and shining are almost always town here. Since I had you both as obv towns (which is why I asked for your votes) im happy to go with this for the rest of the game. After that it gets a little hazzy. ObviousOne was open to this switch hes definitely less likely to be mafia but not impossible. Moosy is porbably town for not voting stoic who was about to flip no matter where he voted. If he knows his partners about to flip he would vote him so hes really closed to lock town too but not comlpletely. That leaves 2 mafia in ) Onegu ( 4) Eversince (filter) 6) Vivax (filter) 7) KelsierSC (filter) 9) Fecalfeast (filter) 10) marvellosity (filter) Im most suspicious of kscs vote. Also the way ksc/vivax have acted against each other I think 1 is always mafia while the other is town. My position is that you're about 99% town after the shenanies there tbh. There's a couple of quite devious reasons I can think of why that 1% chance of still scum is still there which I'd rather not go into because it'll give mafia ideas for confusing the thread. But in any case its incredibly unlikely you're scum in my eyes. I'm happy putting you down as town. I'm not entirely as convinced about Shining, OO or Moosy. I guess its possible one of them bussed but it seems unlikely. There were other trains going strong they could have pushed so I'd lean town on all three right now; though I'll still be reviewing filters over D2. My next scum nomination would have to go to marv. Until something dramatically changes he's basically my top D2 lynch. Your thoughts on KSC/Vivax I could kinda get behind. But Vivax WAS calling for shenanies onto Stoic well in advance. So that's boosted him up quite a bit in my eyes. On the other hand I'm not really behind the idea of scum!KSC. So I really don't know there. | ||
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On October 13 2015 10:16 sicklucker wrote: Show nested quote + On October 13 2015 09:08 Vivax wrote: We don't need shenannies, we just lynch OO and hope that he's posting robotically cause he's mafia. IM SURE YOU WANTED TO LYNCH SHOICNIC VIVAX LOL He really did: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=24963089 On October 13 2015 09:14 Vivax wrote: We still can kill stoicism who is probably my fav lynch but I'll need 4 valiant people. This really helps Vivax in my eyes. | ||
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On October 13 2015 10:21 MoosyDoosy wrote: sicklucker has to be town lol. I've never seen him this happy and excited before. IKR Its pretty funny. SL is usually really hard to read for me from what I've seen of his games. But if my 1% chance that he's still scum is true then he's playing this masterfully. Every one of his posts is just full of total joy. X-D | ||
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On October 13 2015 12:55 sicklucker wrote: This does not really have to be said but @celestial I would never ever bus a newbie in a newbie game unless they specifically asked me too I was more thinking because he wasn't about at all for ages that's precisely what he might have done. "Something came up and I can't be about, can I get replaced? No? Just bus me." Anyway that was kinda quick. GG. That brings me up to 3/3 wins, 3/3 survival which is nice. Watch me get killed first and lose the next game I play. X-D On the subject of a continuing game: I might have had a little bit of trouble coming around to a KSC lynch, but there's practically no way I was doing anything else D2 than demanding marv's head. Someone probably would have picked up on KSC at some point anyway and with so many people confirmed or almost confirmed the concede was probably the only realistic decision unless KSC wanted to make a long, drawn-out fight of it. On October 13 2015 20:13 rsoultin wrote: also no. i was not smurfing a girl roleplaying a cowgirl @.@ Come on, rsoultin. You know you want to. In fairness people were guessing smurf BEFORE the cowgirl thing went all the way down the rabbit hole. X-D | ||
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