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Eversince
Profile Joined October 2015
Philippines2301 Posts
October 12 2015 04:17 GMT
#781
Afh, I really can't piece any of it together.

Why can't Shinin' be scum with Marv?

My problem, no matter how I run this, I end up with like 4-6 mafia vs the town. I realize the extras are just 'afk' but I am not sure how to split them.

I have a headache now t.t.
Life's too short to be black and white. Make the world tie-dye!
-Celestial-
Profile Joined September 2011
United Kingdom3867 Posts
October 12 2015 04:19 GMT
#782
On October 12 2015 13:00 -Celestial- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 12 2015 12:51 Eversince wrote:
I dun' see the tie in for Shining and Marv scum team.
Both look iffy to me but how are you connecting em'?


I'm not exactly. Its not a read. I was running a thought experiment on it to try to work out the logic progression.

My point is that if Shining is scum his voting on FF only really makes sense if marv is also scum, because its a ploy to keep an option open to save marv if he suddenly comes back. And I'm questioning why scum!Shining ever does that given that scum!marv has done literally nothing so far.

It would seem to be a really bad mafia play to me. And borderline suicide to attempt. Why make such a risky move to maybe try to save someone who isn't even about?


Just as a small elaboration to that bit highlighted:

If Shining is scum then there are four possibilities for FF and marv -
1. town!FF + town!marv
2. scum!FF + scum!marv
3. scum!FF + town!marv
4. town!FF + scum!marv


If 1 then why would he even bother opposing thread sentiment on marv? It doesn't matter overmuch to scum!Shining which of two townies get mislynched.

If 2 then I'd expect him to be looking for an entirely different target.

If 3 then...well that's just weird and hella risky given the gamestate. The situation is quite fluid, there's a very real risk of him successfully getting a scummate lynched.

4 would seem to be the only logical option.



Right now I really MUST sleep. Night.
"Protoss simultaneously feels unbeatably strong and unwinnably weak." - kcdc
The Shining
Profile Joined December 2014
United States2406 Posts
October 12 2015 04:22 GMT
#783
On October 12 2015 13:00 -Celestial- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 12 2015 12:51 Eversince wrote:
I dun' see the tie in for Shining and Marv scum team.
Both look iffy to me but how are you connecting em'?


I'm not exactly. Its not a read. I was running a thought experiment on it to try to work out the logic progression.

My point is that if Shining is scum his voting on FF only really makes sense if marv is also scum, because its a ploy to keep an option open to save marv if he suddenly comes back. And I'm questioning why scum!Shining ever does that given that scum!marv has done literally nothing so far.

It would seem to be a really bad mafia play to me. And borderline suicide to attempt. Why make such a risky move to maybe try to save someone who isn't even about?

.because im just that bad apparently.

OO is probably town or just pocketing me but why pocket prime lynch bait. He can't be scum bcuz the same logic applies to me as ff. He could just pile onto my mislynch but he's taking the analytical approach like he did with ff.

Im pissed because if Moosy is actually town and tunneling, which I'm having trouble believing right now, and ES is town, it means i have 2 votes with ff considering a 3rd. If I'm right on ff and wrong on moosy, it means at least 2 more scum will pile on me for the mislynch, since town Is doing the work for them. That's a potential 5 on me and vivax, onegu, stoic, gum, marv, none of them have been around to comment on me at all.

Good point about the ES antagonism, though, that's Something to look into if/when i flip
Always and Never are two words you should always remember never to say.
-Celestial-
Profile Joined September 2011
United Kingdom3867 Posts
October 12 2015 04:23 GMT
#784
On October 12 2015 13:17 Eversince wrote:

Why can't Shinin' be scum with Marv?



Oh, he can be. Sorry I didn't make that clear. Its just that if they ARE scumbuddies its an incredibly dangerous mafia play he's making to try to save someone who hasn't even been around and who everyone thinks is dirty as hell. It just doesn't make sense to me for him to take that risk.
"Protoss simultaneously feels unbeatably strong and unwinnably weak." - kcdc
The Shining
Profile Joined December 2014
United States2406 Posts
October 12 2015 04:24 GMT
#785
It's more likely Moosy is scum with marv and took advantage of my contradictions to get votes off of him in the hopes his partner will return. But unflipped associations are trash and I'm trash so w.e
Always and Never are two words you should always remember never to say.
Eversince
Profile Joined October 2015
Philippines2301 Posts
October 12 2015 04:27 GMT
#786
On October 12 2015 13:22 The Shining wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 12 2015 13:00 -Celestial- wrote:
On October 12 2015 12:51 Eversince wrote:
I dun' see the tie in for Shining and Marv scum team.
Both look iffy to me but how are you connecting em'?


I'm not exactly. Its not a read. I was running a thought experiment on it to try to work out the logic progression.

My point is that if Shining is scum his voting on FF only really makes sense if marv is also scum, because its a ploy to keep an option open to save marv if he suddenly comes back. And I'm questioning why scum!Shining ever does that given that scum!marv has done literally nothing so far.

It would seem to be a really bad mafia play to me. And borderline suicide to attempt. Why make such a risky move to maybe try to save someone who isn't even about?

.because im just that bad apparently.

OO is probably town or just pocketing me but why pocket prime lynch bait. He can't be scum bcuz the same logic applies to me as ff. He could just pile onto my mislynch but he's taking the analytical approach like he did with ff.

Im pissed because if Moosy is actually town and tunneling, which I'm having trouble believing right now, and ES is town, it means i have 2 votes with ff considering a 3rd. If I'm right on ff and wrong on moosy, it means at least 2 more scum will pile on me for the mislynch, since town Is doing the work for them. That's a potential 5 on me and vivax, onegu, stoic, gum, marv, none of them have been around to comment on me at all.

Good point about the ES antagonism, though, that's Something to look into if/when i flip


I have yet to antagonize you friend. Start doin' stuff and dun' try to toss banter because I encouraged it.
Life's too short to be black and white. Make the world tie-dye!
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
October 12 2015 04:29 GMT
#787
you guys are animals
Eversince
Profile Joined October 2015
Philippines2301 Posts
October 12 2015 04:31 GMT
#788
And that makes you?
Life's too short to be black and white. Make the world tie-dye!
-Celestial-
Profile Joined September 2011
United Kingdom3867 Posts
October 12 2015 04:32 GMT
#789
To be honest I'd really like to see marv's flip now and work from there. If he flips anything other than red then Moosy is confirmed town in my eyes; because why the hell does a scum try to drive people off an easy mislynch?

Unfortunately I think marv will flip red. Which means an awful lot more thinking will be required to work out any assocations.


I planned on going to sleep approaching an hour ago now. X-(

Okay, I'm turning my computer off. Laters.
"Protoss simultaneously feels unbeatably strong and unwinnably weak." - kcdc
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
October 12 2015 04:33 GMT
#790
Like im pretty sure all of you are town. Make love not war
The Shining
Profile Joined December 2014
United States2406 Posts
October 12 2015 04:34 GMT
#791
lol I did do stuff. Stop telling everybody to do stuff in every fucking post and you do something yourself. Srsly. You've done nothing today but piss me off, tunnel me, throw random questions and pokes everywhere with no conclusion and make a pointless post about a dress, contradict yourself on "if I'm town" but "lynching 100%", so you're admitting you're 100% going to lynch town so I'll let town handle that when I flip.

How about you question somebody or something instead of making useless one liners and questions that lead nowhere?

Actually the more I analyze this game, the more I realize I'm a shitty D1er and always have been and my reads are usually always wrong. Now my top townreads are the scummiest out of the bunch IRT me and my scumreads are looking pretty good. Funny how shit works out.
Always and Never are two words you should always remember never to say.
Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
October 12 2015 04:35 GMT
#792
On October 12 2015 13:33 sicklucker wrote:
Like im pretty sure all of you are town. Make love not war


who's the bad guys then?
ModeratorINFLATE YOUR POST COUNT; PLAY TL MAFIA
Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
October 12 2015 04:35 GMT
#793
On October 12 2015 13:34 The Shining wrote:
lol I did do stuff. Stop telling everybody to do stuff in every fucking post and you do something yourself. Srsly. You've done nothing today but piss me off, tunnel me, throw random questions and pokes everywhere with no conclusion and make a pointless post about a dress, contradict yourself on "if I'm town" but "lynching 100%", so you're admitting you're 100% going to lynch town so I'll let town handle that when I flip.

How about you question somebody or something instead of making useless one liners and questions that lead nowhere?

Actually the more I analyze this game, the more I realize I'm a shitty D1er and always have been and my reads are usually always wrong. Now my top townreads are the scummiest out of the bunch IRT me and my scumreads are looking pretty good. Funny how shit works out.

I agree D1 is usually hard.
ModeratorINFLATE YOUR POST COUNT; PLAY TL MAFIA
Eversince
Profile Joined October 2015
Philippines2301 Posts
October 12 2015 04:38 GMT
#794
Wells, a dead shot is as good as any other to me. But I hope to stumble the chance in talkin' bout' it tomorrow.
Life's too short to be black and white. Make the world tie-dye!
Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
October 12 2015 04:39 GMT
#795
On October 12 2015 13:38 Eversince wrote:
Wells, a dead shot is as good as any other to me. But I hope to stumble the chance in talkin' bout' it tomorrow.

Do you speak like that or are you just doing an accent for fun?
ModeratorINFLATE YOUR POST COUNT; PLAY TL MAFIA
Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
October 12 2015 04:40 GMT
#796
also it'd be 'bout since you're removing the a
ModeratorINFLATE YOUR POST COUNT; PLAY TL MAFIA
The Shining
Profile Joined December 2014
United States2406 Posts
October 12 2015 04:40 GMT
#797
Self-meta is shit but everything else I'm doing is shit so I might as well follow my trend. Look at any game I've played, I'm horribad D1 and usually choose to play as little as possible, regardless of alignment, so I can get the most information out of the D1 flip and votes.

And I'm choosing to ignore ES for the rest of my time in this game. I find it really BM that she has the nerve to tell me to do shit when SHE'S the one that first put me into a position where I was forced to defend myself, then continues to hammer that nail in. That's really not a town mindset, just pushing my tilt even further. Yolo.
Always and Never are two words you should always remember never to say.
Eversince
Profile Joined October 2015
Philippines2301 Posts
October 12 2015 04:41 GMT
#798
Really? Friend, calm down. After that, do explain, what exactly I have managed today? You seem to know so well.
I can't be bothered to backtrack, so I am sure you can paraphrase for me.
Life's too short to be black and white. Make the world tie-dye!
Eversince
Profile Joined October 2015
Philippines2301 Posts
October 12 2015 04:45 GMT
#799
Oi' bit' much... I am happy with where my vote is at.
No chance o' this feller flippin' town.
Not one.
Life's too short to be black and white. Make the world tie-dye!
The Shining
Profile Joined December 2014
United States2406 Posts
October 12 2015 04:46 GMT
#800
More nonsensical double posting that follow two separate trains of thoughts and leads to nothing. Legit.
Always and Never are two words you should always remember never to say.
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