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The Shining
United States2406 Posts
Deuces. | ||
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MoosyDoosy
United States4519 Posts
On October 12 2015 12:12 Eversince wrote: Mhm, thoughts on our exchange Moosy? Omit the irritated luggage I tossed on.(or dun', it happened, it's there and feel free to interpret it how you will) I did think his tone was town but Shining has fooled me in the past so I wouldn't like to make a judgment based on that. The premise of the argument was faulty because neither you nor he knew what you both were trying to say to each other. | ||
Fecalfeast
Canada11355 Posts
On October 12 2015 12:22 The Shining wrote: I have nothing to flesh out. Have fun lynching town, baddies and scummers. You've earned it because I'm tilt as fuck and won't be around again. Deuces. | ||
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Eversince
Philippines2297 Posts
On October 12 2015 12:22 The Shining wrote: I have nothing to flesh out. Have fun lynching town, baddies and scummers. You've earned it because I'm tilt as fuck and won't be around again. Deuces. If you flip town, please don't. | ||
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Eversince
Philippines2297 Posts
100% lynchin' today. | ||
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MoosyDoosy
United States4519 Posts
On October 12 2015 12:19 Fecalfeast wrote: I mean, don't get me wrong, I like where your case is going moose. Shining's explanation of marv's meta being damning but his weak read on me being based on this game isn't terrible. I don't like the rage coming from him though. IDK people say getting mad is a towny thing but I disagree It's not just that, it's how he keeps on contradicting himself. First he says marv is a better lynch but doesn't change his vote off of you. Then he tries to say you're the better lynch but had admitted his points were weakened by OO's and your counterarguments and said marv was the better lynch. So which exactly is it? Does he think his admittedly weak points on you make you scum? Or does he think that the perfect point on marv is a better lynch? And rather than understanding this basic question he goes on about how I mentioned meta and says I'm trash without actually explaining the contradictions. He is scum. | ||
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Fecalfeast
Canada11355 Posts
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The Shining
United States2406 Posts
ES says if you flip town pls don't then says lynching 100% right after. The bipolarity is outstanding. Make up your mind. You think I'm scum, you shouldn't be telling me what to do "if I'm town" you sound like you don't believe your own scumread Bad baddie is bad | ||
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MoosyDoosy
United States4519 Posts
On October 12 2015 12:31 Fecalfeast wrote: Yeah... No you're right. It's more contradictory than I first interpreted... 1. Shining said marv was a better lynch than FF and that the stuff on marv was perfect, but kept his vote on FF. 2. Shining later tried to retract his statement and said he kept on voting for FF because he thought FF was the better lynch but this contradicted him saying marv was the better lynch. 3. Shining already said that his posts on FF were weak because of ObviousOne's defense and FF's defense but still wants to vote FF while thinking marv is a better lynch. ^ Basically this. | ||
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Eversince
Philippines2297 Posts
On October 12 2015 12:35 The Shining wrote: Nah yall pissed me off, I'm just gonna troll out ES says if you flip town pls don't then says lynching 100% right after. The bipolarity is outstanding. Make up your mind. You think I'm scum, you shouldn't be telling me what to do "if I'm town" you sound like you don't believe your own scumread Bad baddie is bad Hmph. Yeh friend.If this is how you play town. Because this is how I would play mafia. I will skip fellin' bad for ya' I may be bi-polar, but my read isn't. You've been slicked as dirty by me for a while mates. | ||
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-Celestial-
United Kingdom3867 Posts
On October 12 2015 11:52 Eversince wrote: I got this cute little black summer dress from the shop. I bet you'd look spiffy in it! Hey...you're going to make me blush. Anyway...to play devil's advocate here a bit I have one question to ask about this case against Shining: to what end? What would be the point of Shining's play here? Marv is totally dead in the water. He's not here. He might even get modkilled or replaced if he's not back in time to vote. Its a very, very easy bus to get on as mafia and if he's really not about he's not worth going out of your way to save...better to get the towncred for being on a correct lynch and let everyone WIFOM all over the VCA during night time. What's the best case scenario here for scumShining and scumMarv with that play? Shining gets FF mislynched and marv either comes back or gets replaced. But because Shining was central to the FF lynch he's under heavy scrutiny and marv (or replacement) is under equal suspicion for doing bugger all for most of D1. They end up as top two high-priority lynch candidates for D2 and when one flips red I think the next gets lynched the day after. Its a hugely risky play. I mean correct my logic if I'm wrong here, by all means. If you're all certain I guess I'll review Shining's filter tomorrow before the deadline. I have to go to bed in a minute, its approaching 5am here. We got just over 21 hours before the vote ends by my reckoning so...we'll see what happens. Also a vote count would be great about now so we can see where we are. | ||
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The Shining
United States2406 Posts
On October 12 2015 12:27 MoosyDoosy wrote: It's not just that, it's how he keeps on contradicting himself. First he says marv is a better lynch but doesn't change his vote off of you. Then he tries to say you're the better lynch but had admitted his points were weakened by OO's and your counterarguments and said marv was the better lynch. So which exactly is it? Does he think his admittedly weak points on you make you scum? Or does he think that the perfect point on marv is a better lynch? And rather than understanding this basic question he goes on about how I mentioned meta and says I'm trash without actually explaining the contradictions. He is scum. Yup cuz i trust my own gut over the shit cases and meta arguments that have been thrown around. Last time i followed my gut on FF, he was scum and i caught him in ippo. Deal with it. Either one is a good lynch but I'll get lynched so does it really fucking matter. I've alrdy explained my reads on both and how statistically Marv has a higher chance of flipping scum but I'm following my own gut. Youre right buddy, I'm scum, so scum, super scum. Scummiest scum to ever have scummed. Town get ur heads out of your asses after i flip and pay attention to who pushed it hardest and who sheeps onto it easily. That's 1-2 scum right there | ||
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The Shining
United States2406 Posts
On October 12 2015 12:40 Eversince wrote: Hmph. Yeh friend.If this is how you play town. Because this is how I would play mafia. I will skip fellin' bad for ya' I may be bi-polar, but my read isn't. You've been slicked as dirty by me for a while mates. This is how i play tilted town when I'm being scummed for shyt reasons (you) & being opportunistically piled ontoi by someone not reading thread Oh well | ||
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MoosyDoosy
United States4519 Posts
On October 12 2015 12:40 -Celestial- wrote: Hey...you're going to make me blush. Anyway...to play devil's advocate here a bit I have one question to ask about this case against Shining: to what end? What would be the point of Shining's play here? Marv is totally dead in the water. He's not here. He might even get modkilled or replaced if he's not back in time to vote. Its a very, very easy bus to get on as mafia and if he's really not about he's not worth going out of your way to save...better to get the towncred for being on a correct lynch and let everyone WIFOM all over the VCA during night time. What's the best case scenario here for scumShining and scumMarv with that play? Shining gets FF mislynched and marv either comes back or gets replaced. But because Shining was central to the FF lynch he's under heavy scrutiny and marv (or replacement) is under equal suspicion for doing bugger all for most of D1. They end up as top two high-priority lynch candidates for D2 and when one flips red I think the next gets lynched the day after. Its a hugely risky play. I mean correct my logic if I'm wrong here, by all means. If you're all certain I guess I'll review Shining's filter tomorrow before the deadline. I have to go to bed in a minute, its approaching 5am here. We got just over 21 hours before the vote ends by my reckoning so...we'll see what happens. Also a vote count would be great about now so we can see where we are. If both Shining and marv are scum, this is a great way for scum!Shining to set up a vote switch onto scum!marv as a bus, especially since marv is away. But WIFOM and speculation like this is practically impossible to figure out so I don't like to use it. It also doesn't deny the fact that Shining contradicted himself at least 3 times with his statements. | ||
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Eversince
Philippines2297 Posts
On October 12 2015 12:40 -Celestial- wrote: Hey...you're going to make me blush. Anyway...to play devil's advocate here a bit I have one question to ask about this case against Shining: to what end? What would be the point of Shining's play here? Marv is totally dead in the water. He's not here. He might even get modkilled or replaced if he's not back in time to vote. Its a very, very easy bus to get on as mafia and if he's really not about he's not worth going out of your way to save...better to get the towncred for being on a correct lynch and let everyone WIFOM all over the VCA during night time. What's the best case scenario here for scumShining and scumMarv with that play? Shining gets FF mislynched and marv either comes back or gets replaced. But because Shining was central to the FF lynch he's under heavy scrutiny and marv (or replacement) is under equal suspicion for doing bugger all for most of D1. They end up as top two high-priority lynch candidates for D2 and when one flips red I think the next gets lynched the day after. Its a hugely risky play. I mean correct my logic if I'm wrong here, by all means. If you're all certain I guess I'll review Shining's filter tomorrow before the deadline. I have to go to bed in a minute, its approaching 5am here. We got just over 21 hours before the vote ends by my reckoning so...we'll see what happens. Also a vote count would be great about now so we can see where we are. Yeh, this is the thought that has been on my mind for hours. This is another everyone could change votes over to and be " just cause it fits" This is my problem with a Gumdrop lynch. Guy has done squat all. but that's it. His introduction was fishy but can you seriously clean windows better for this fellow? I did quote a tid-bit out from Celestial. And despite not bein' super active, Celestial has at least made realistic point when he's been round'. | ||
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Eversince
Philippines2297 Posts
Both look iffy to me but how are you connecting em'? | ||
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-Celestial-
United Kingdom3867 Posts
You're right about the contradictions though. Like I said, I'll have another look at the filter tomorrow. @Eversince: I honestly think that Gumdrop is just not going to come back and will get replaced. He's done it before. Anyway, bedtime. Goodnight. | ||
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ObviousOne
United States3704 Posts
Not wanting to vote for someone because one of your scum reads is voting for them, on day one, where a bus is largely unlikely, when you have a scum read on someone else that you consider equally valid, is totally okay in my book. This tunneling shining into rage is really out of this world. Wow. Sincerely. Instead of being antagonizing, honest level-headed questions would get you a lot farther. The responses I got from Shining were decent enough and there wasn't any vitriol that I could sense. Equally, how many people have actually voted for you Shining? There's still many hours until the lynch and Marv is a much more likely majority candidate because the tells we have make it almost a sure thing he's mafia unless he comes back glowing green like the Hulk. Your fate isn't set in stone so getting too upset is only damaging to your cause. Like I said before, if things get emotionally charged, take a short break to collect your thoughts, think about what's going on and why it's happening. For instance, maybe Eversince is a super clever mafia player. This total antagonistic dialogue she has engaged in with you is not a healthy town player attitude. And it didn't seem to stop after the break she took. The assault continues. There's no town reason not to try to level with you on in a logical discussion, and it's breaking my town read of her because I'm particularly sensitive to the same kind of issue you're dealing with having been there multiple times. | ||
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-Celestial-
United Kingdom3867 Posts
On October 12 2015 12:51 Eversince wrote: I dun' see the tie in for Shining and Marv scum team. Both look iffy to me but how are you connecting em'? I'm not exactly. Its not a read. I was running a thought experiment on it to try to work out the logic progression. My point is that if Shining is scum his voting on FF only really makes sense if marv is also scum, because its a ploy to keep an option open to save marv if he suddenly comes back. And I'm questioning why scum!Shining ever does that given that scum!marv has done literally nothing so far. It would seem to be a really bad mafia play to me. And borderline suicide to attempt. Why make such a risky move to maybe try to save someone who isn't even about? | ||
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Eversince
Philippines2297 Posts
12/10, would lynch myself twice. | ||
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