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Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
September 25 2015 23:28 GMT
#41
/coach Gumdrop

He'll need it
Gumdrop
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United States35 Posts
September 25 2015 23:29 GMT
#42
Trfel, you are an asshat.
"Once more unto the breech dear friends, once more!"- Hamlet's King Henry
NocturneMage
Profile Joined July 2015
United Kingdom1965 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-09-25 23:31:09
September 25 2015 23:29 GMT
#43
/in

Edit: naturally biased towards HTS as a coach unless that would be seen as a problem
Vlad for life. SKT supporter. I policy lynch all dota players, end of.
NocturneMage
Profile Joined July 2015
United Kingdom1965 Posts
September 25 2015 23:34 GMT
#44
Also I will be policy lynching any of the dota players d1. Fidei, if he plays, will be at the top of my list
Vlad for life. SKT supporter. I policy lynch all dota players, end of.
Fidei86
Profile Joined May 2015
United Kingdom2116 Posts
September 26 2015 00:21 GMT
#45
Joke's on you, Alex, I'm not even playing in this game!
The Shining
Profile Joined December 2014
United States2406 Posts
September 26 2015 01:18 GMT
#46
On September 26 2015 08:34 NocturneMage wrote:
Also I will be policy lynching any of the dota players d1. Fidei, if he plays, will be at the top of my list


I can sheep this. Ahri main 4 lyfe.
Always and Never are two words you should always remember never to say.
coolTLname
Profile Joined January 2015
United States315 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-09-27 22:47:01
September 27 2015 03:50 GMT
#47
/out
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
September 28 2015 20:27 GMT
#48
On September 26 2015 10:18 The Shining wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 26 2015 08:34 NocturneMage wrote:
Also I will be policy lynching any of the dota players d1. Fidei, if he plays, will be at the top of my list


I can sheep this. Ahri main 4 lyfe.

High Five Bro! Although I did stop playing her after the passive nerf plus other mids were stronger than her in solo queue I hate facing Annie as her :|
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25558 Posts
September 28 2015 20:33 GMT
#49
Looks like we still have room for 6 more!
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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NocturneMage
Profile Joined July 2015
United Kingdom1965 Posts
September 28 2015 20:41 GMT
#50
On September 29 2015 05:27 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 26 2015 10:18 The Shining wrote:
On September 26 2015 08:34 NocturneMage wrote:
Also I will be policy lynching any of the dota players d1. Fidei, if he plays, will be at the top of my list


I can sheep this. Ahri main 4 lyfe.

High Five Bro! Although I did stop playing her after the passive nerf plus other mids were stronger than her in solo queue I hate facing Annie as her :|


Damn straight. The nerfs sucked but I still like playing her.

On another note, I am so fucking hyped for Worlds, just two days.

And as much as she loathes League, for my anniversary present Dani did really well with tickets to Worlds, really fortunate this year they went EU

Now if I can only turn around and forever corrupt her....god.
Vlad for life. SKT supporter. I policy lynch all dota players, end of.
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
September 28 2015 21:22 GMT
#51
/out frands

This game fills slower than...something that fills really slow...
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
September 28 2015 21:27 GMT
#52
On September 29 2015 05:41 NocturneMage wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2015 05:27 LightningStrike wrote:
On September 26 2015 10:18 The Shining wrote:
On September 26 2015 08:34 NocturneMage wrote:
Also I will be policy lynching any of the dota players d1. Fidei, if he plays, will be at the top of my list


I can sheep this. Ahri main 4 lyfe.

High Five Bro! Although I did stop playing her after the passive nerf plus other mids were stronger than her in solo queue I hate facing Annie as her :|


Damn straight. The nerfs sucked but I still like playing her.

On another note, I am so fucking hyped for Worlds, just two days.

And as much as she loathes League, for my anniversary present Dani did really well with tickets to Worlds, really fortunate this year they went EU

Now if I can only turn around and forever corrupt her....god.

You should just tie her down and force her to play League :o Also that reminds me I do got a EUW account but it's like level 11 >.> I plat 5 on Na if you wondering how good I am at League.
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
NocturneMage
Profile Joined July 2015
United Kingdom1965 Posts
September 29 2015 17:35 GMT
#53
On September 29 2015 06:27 LightningStrike wrote:
You should just tie her down and force her to play League :o Also that reminds me I do got a EUW account but it's like level 11 >.> I plat 5 on Na if you wondering how good I am at League.


coercion....that is an interesting way of putting it there. I wish it were that straightforward although I'm sure you've heard of a saying now...."don't bite the hand that feeds you." seriously she spent a load of money on both sets of tickets and the trip for the finals so I don't think she'd take too well to me tying her up. although if that's worked for you in the past, more power to you

but I know her well enough, I will just have to cross fingers and hope her being surrounded by the diehards at Worlds will get her to change. maybe
Vlad for life. SKT supporter. I policy lynch all dota players, end of.
NocturneMage
Profile Joined July 2015
United Kingdom1965 Posts
September 29 2015 17:36 GMT
#54
On September 29 2015 05:33 Blazinghand wrote:
Looks like we still have room for 6 more!


make that 7 now :/

would like to see more newbies in this game, nothing against the vets but it's fun trying to read new people, I feel at a disadvantage when people are like "meta this" "meta that" as a new player.
Vlad for life. SKT supporter. I policy lynch all dota players, end of.
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
September 30 2015 19:23 GMT
#55
On September 30 2015 02:36 NocturneMage wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2015 05:33 Blazinghand wrote:
Looks like we still have room for 6 more!


make that 7 now :/

would like to see more newbies in this game, nothing against the vets but it's fun trying to read new people, I feel at a disadvantage when people are like "meta this" "meta that" as a new player.

Just keep in mind that the majority of people who try to use meta have no idea what they're doing and you have just as good a guess as to what something means as someone who claims to know better and you'll do fine.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
September 30 2015 20:06 GMT
#56
Metareads are the most annoying thing to play against when you're a newbie. You cannot really evaluate the strength of such reads but other players tend to blindly follow such reads. I use my (very limited) meta experience to get a grip on my gut-based reads.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22166 Posts
September 30 2015 21:48 GMT
#57
Let's talk about something relevant, how do we fill this game?

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Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
September 30 2015 22:02 GMT
#58
On October 01 2015 04:23 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 30 2015 02:36 NocturneMage wrote:
On September 29 2015 05:33 Blazinghand wrote:
Looks like we still have room for 6 more!


make that 7 now :/

would like to see more newbies in this game, nothing against the vets but it's fun trying to read new people, I feel at a disadvantage when people are like "meta this" "meta that" as a new player.

Just keep in mind that the majority of people who try to use meta have no idea what they're doing and you have just as good a guess as to what something means as someone who claims to know better and you'll do fine.


This 10,000%

+ Show Spoiler +
There are occasions where knowledge of a player from past games is helpful in building a read on them. However it is just as likely to lead you to the wrong conclusions as the correct ones. Besides, Metas can change or be abused so they are not as reliable as some people will claim.

I've fallen into the trap of trying to use meta-reads or looking up someones past games to see if I can develop one. However I definitely feel like my best reads come from whats happening in game, not what somebody did 5 games ago. Besides, I can't be bothered to read past games anymore. It's hard enough keeping up with one game sometimes.
I can take that responsibility.
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
October 01 2015 13:23 GMT
#59
On September 30 2015 02:35 NocturneMage wrote:
but I know her well enough, I will just have to cross fingers and hope her being surrounded by the diehards at Worlds will get her to change. maybe


Dream on....

More on topic and in line with what Vivax posted, I know we had a decent crew of newbies the last 2-4 newbie games, especially the ones I remember from NSM12 - Grokken, silentwarrior, WonnaPlay, etc. (No I haven't forgotten n00bking either, but he obviously raged last game.)

I know disformation is gone for another week as he's wrapping up his thesis for grad school. But generally I know we haven't done too well keeping newbies around. Can't really put my finger on why though.

I honestly don't think the newbie games are too spammy - might be a good idea for someone to grab ahold of Kita's survey that he used to do for newbies and throw it the way of first timers around here?

Just a random thought.

(If I'm derailing the thread, I guess I'll start a new thread, IDK, I'm just throwing thoughts around honestly.)
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-10-01 13:28:48
October 01 2015 13:28 GMT
#60
And yeh, I've said this before but the others touched on it, but meta is something that is used and abused by many others on this forum. I have learnt some hard lessons using it myself (example: it led to me throwing Gaiden) but I think as far as trusting other people's meta reads you need to probably just form your reads using other criteria and check that at least their approach to meta is making sense or that they can explain the parallel points on their reads between games.

If you are a new player you really shouldn't meta unless you have played 10-odd games with people anyhow and you still have to be careful of easily broken metas (i.e. inactivity as a certain alignment). The easiest way to safeguard is to use multiple layers of criteria for town or scumreading people and see if it adds up. Outside meta, is there town/mafia motivations for XYZ action(s)? And so forth.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
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