EPTSeason of the Witch 2 - Page 9
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On September 17 2015 10:52 Half the Sky wrote: This is what I understand geript to have said - So if your first post was serious why are you trusting the read when you don't know how good his meta shit is? Am I misunderstanding what you are trying to communicate (in the bolded)? Particularly when Shining had a very sharp (IMO) reaction to how Damdred scumread him on page 26. What do you make of that then? If you are being serious and I am understanding you correctly, then I have no idea how you are townreading Damdred. | ||
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what does it matter he voted 4 minutes after saying he would not move his vote ?? | ||
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On September 17 2015 20:29 Dandel Ion wrote: he must be pretty expert to react to something before it happens THEN WHY DID YOU SAY THAT | ||
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On September 17 2015 21:09 Tictock wrote: Ok I'm up. Had a long day at work yesterday and went out with friends after, still recovering from that a bit actually. I need to catchup and reread some stuff, but if there's any questions for me right off ask away as I wake up and get going here. From a cursory glance it seems like potential grail holders being discussed are, Damdred, FF, and myself correct? I noticed Rayn and geript seem to think geript should get it, but I don't recall either of them talking about it. Damdred is not being considered p: geript is the third candidate | ||
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On September 17 2015 21:11 Dandel Ion wrote: hm i wonder what reaction have you talked about this could possibly apply to That is what I'm asking you | ||
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You're mafia good to have one confirmed (= | ||
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On September 17 2015 21:22 Vivax wrote: Dude it's a waste of time to get something out of Dandel, if crusader dies at any point he should just take him down. I'm reasonably sure we should lynch into BM or damdy today. I don't agree. If he was only useless or trolly there would be a chance for him to be town. But look: the only reads he explained where: - Damdred is town - Shining is mafia I didn't understand the "Damdred town" read. HTS didn't as well and asked for details, which he never gave. His "Shining mafia" read is based on the fact the Shining is not scumreading Damdred, which is false. When I asked him to explain why Shining was mafia he answered; but when I provided him with evidence his read was false, he didn't explain it further. | ||
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The crusader cannot shot when he wants. He that was the case, I would agree to vig him N1. But we cannot know if that will happen. | ||
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On September 17 2015 21:29 Dandel Ion wrote: this level of lies and slander lol, haven't got anything better you think I will talk to you ?? stupid | ||
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On September 17 2015 21:33 Vivax wrote: Read BM please and convince yourself why he's mafia ty you think BM is mafia ? | ||
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Why is Dandel Ion mafia: an easy catch 1. Dandel Ion actively lurked the whole D1 Actively lurking, IE reading the thread but not posting anything interesting or answering questions, is scum indicative. There are no benefits for a townie to do that. The benefits for a mafia to do that are: posting to appear active, not sharing reads mean you cannot be judged on your positions, not answering questions means people cannot understand you. Plus, here is a geript quote regarding Dandel's scum meta: On September 17 2015 04:53 geript wrote: Dandel might be town but ugh. He usually hates playing as mafia often to the point of getting his team to bus him for credit. Usually as mafia he's low to super low activity, which is what I see here. It's not a 100% thing but I think it's a decent flip. So Dandel is playing his scum meta this game. 2. Dandel Ion said The Shining was scum for not scumreading Damdred, which is false Dandel said: On September 17 2015 18:50 Dandel Ion wrote: How am I trusting his read? Sharp? shining is an obvious omgusser, yet he didn't even call damdred scum (for that, but also not for anything else, but he sure is trying hard to soft it) shining is just scum it's really that simple That is not true. Shining is not "trying hard to soft" attack Damdred. He is currently voting Damdred and said his vote won't move until deadline: On September 17 2015 09:46 The Shining wrote: ##deadlinevote Damdred ##HolyGrail Fecalfeast On September 17 2015 09:42 The Shining wrote: So Damdred comes back with more nothing, while WIFOMing his alignment in not one but two games. Bro, I hate you right now. W.e I'm done, see you guys at deadline. Don't really care who gets the grail, either. Give it to whoever will be nkd n1 so this slow game can end fast. 3. Dandel doesn't answer my questions but attacks me as a person Not talking about his trolling, but about that bit right there: On September 17 2015 19:08 Dandel Ion wrote: inb4 french scum takes this as excuse to rub all over my balls like he wanted to the whole game I didn't push Dandel the whole day. D1 I put him in a useful list of useless people to warn him and others they should not be useless in this game. D2 I voted him and specifically said I would re evaluate when he starts playing. Only now I truly believe he is scum. So Dandel Ion is lying about me attacking him the whole day. BUT the reverse is true. D1 when I posted the first version of the useful list, Dandel's reaction was: And when he continues being here while still being useless, I put him into the "maybe scum category", his reaction was: So Dandel is accusing me of something I didn't do, but he has actually done to me. Conclusion Dandel is mafia for actively lurking, not helping others to understand him, having one of his two reads based on something false, attacking me as a person. There is a small chance he is Grandier, intentionally playing shitty to get reactions, then sacrificing himself to decide the lynch at the end of the day. I don't believe it as it would be sub optimal play. And even if he is, lynching him is what he wants. | ||
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On September 17 2015 22:06 LightningStrike wrote: Also I checked Ticktock's filter. Got him null still my main thing that bothers me is his unnatural read progression regarding me. First he called me scum than later he said I was town for some of my reactions yet it doesn't seem natural. His mind seem to change a lot with thread sentiment. how is it different from everybody's else reactions ? (mine, HTS, rayn at the time, etc.) | ||
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As rayn posted, it is important that we decide who the inquisitor should check. If we do that: - the oracle has a garanteed hit - if the inquisitor doesn't claim a red check D2, it means that the checked target is town If there is a contested lynch, the person we decided to check might be lynched, and we cannot talk at night in this setup. It could mean the inquisitor and the oracle not knowing who to check. SO Near the end of the day, everybody should state who they want to check in addition to their lynch. In the person they wanted to check is lynched instead, the inquisitor would just have to assume their initial lynch target is their check target. OK ? | ||
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If Damdred is lynched, my check target becomes Dandel. | ||
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On September 17 2015 22:33 Tictock wrote: This post + the fact BM afked for 10 hours after it makes me want to rethink my townlean on him Then again his rapid fire posting when he did come back is somewhat towny. Ehh prob not someone I'd lynch today. Yeah I thought that post in particular was pretty weird too. | ||
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On September 17 2015 22:45 Tictock wrote: Rels what do you make of Damdred wanting to give FF the grail? Having a hard time deciding this one. Nothing but WIFOM. Him townreading FF means nothing, as it is easy for scum to townread people. I don't think it means anything. | ||
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On September 17 2015 22:52 Vivax wrote: Rapid fire posting doesn't make BM town. I don't find his reasoning for talking about my reads over rayn's satisfying. Point being he shouldn't have any reason to compare his reads to mine when I'm confirmed town and turn a blind eye towards rayn like he did. While I'm writing this I'm also suspicious of rayn for the way the two of them haven't been particularly hands-on towards each other. I'm going to pick apart a few of his posts: "Buddying" is something you do when you try to pocket a townie, scum don't need to buddy each other. BM should know that. This post has pretty much contrary opinion to what me and Rayn said about Rels and TT and ends with him wanting to "consolidate" on LS for unmentioned reasons. Here rayn talked against his reads and notice how BM's reads shift towards thinking that Rels and TT might be town. Rayn agrees with FF being mafia. Also interesting wording implying that rayn and me aren't part of that buddy buddy circlejerk when BM is townreading all of us. Kinda minor point but seems like reasoning he just slapped in there. No mention of LS he was willing to consolidate on (2 minutes later he softens that scumread). I have no idea why rayn TRs him. Here BM reaches the point of zero scumreads: So he rereads to find something: And finds something that suddenly makes Rels town... When it has been posted SIX HOURS before he scumread him for the buddy buddy and the list post. Proof: + Show Spoiler + On September 15 2015 17:20 Rels wrote: OK let's bring back this little thing. The useful list of useless people The Shining HTS LS fidei Dandel Ion If one person is still in this list at deadline I'll push him hard His post at page 15: On September 15 2015 21:52 Rels wrote: I don't understand you. You think rayn is doing a bad thing martyr hunting. You're the first to react to his plan. And instead of explaining WHY martyr hunting is bad, you post this: Then you gtfo. I think you're mafia. On September 16 2015 03:33 Bill Murray wrote: you know vivax and i disagree hard when his 3 town reads are my 3 scum reads thusfar I feel TT and Rels have been buddying and I had a scumread on TT Rels list is something I do as scum and I feel it tries to buy towncred He then goes into Maf wouldnt mess with grail D1 into D1 trying to give grail to TT TT was my original gut i felt like hey this guy is relatively new I dont know if he knows how to play scum but this is what I would imagine his words would read like if he did. I based my interactions off of that thusfar. I could consolidate on LS he might just be nervous and have a decent role but I could easily see him as scum acting the way he does On September 16 2015 04:00 Bill Murray wrote: ok Rels is town ~circa page 15 So yeah, BM is bullshittin OK let me debunk a part that I think is false. It is the part about the timestamps. BM was catching up at the time, so it's normal he talks about my list post, THEN talks about my posts page 15. The part about associating TT and I are buddy while not mentioning rayn and Vivax is super weird. It could be scum indicative; BM trying to throw a scumread on both TT and I while townreading rayn and Vivax. And that's also true that as soon as rayn tells BM he thinks I'm town, BM drops the scumreads. | ||
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