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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
September 20 2015 18:03 GMT
#1461
On September 21 2015 03:00 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 21 2015 02:54 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 21 2015 02:53 Rels wrote:
On September 21 2015 02:52 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 20 2015 23:16 Rels wrote:
Whatever though, we're lynching BM.

You trying to throw the game again like in D1?
Whatever. feel free to, i literally don't care about this game anymore.

Do you really believe ls is scum
Or are you mad at him he's playing badly
Cause you tend to do that

I believe he is scum.
I also KNOW that lynching him will put as into ABSOLUTELY same position we are WITHOUT lynching him (if not better). Except that we will know his alignment for sure, on N2, and not D3.
Which makes it a BETTER position to be honest.

OK I got it. If we decided to lynch town today, the best lynch would be ls since he claimed
By that logic, we should have lynched vivax yesterday
Lynching mafia > lynching claimed town > lynching unclaimed town
But here is what we can do. If we cannot agree to a target before deadline, the judge should lynch ls

no. we lynch LS.
regardless of his affiliation that is the correct play.

WE END UP IN A SAME SITUATION EXCEPT WE KNOW HIS ALIGNMENT FOR SURE.
Jesus fucking christ why is this so hard?
Judge killing LS is not the correct play. We lynching LS is.

If you think you can promote discussion with this and this is some fucking stunt from you, well dont.
It doesn't help one bit.
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
September 20 2015 18:04 GMT
#1462
By that logic, we should have lynched vivax yesterday

and what kinda idiotic statement this is?
the situation is completely different.
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Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
September 20 2015 18:05 GMT
#1463
I would lynch ls if I was 50% unsure he was mafia
But I am maybe 90% sure he's town. And I'm 90% sure bm is mafia
And don't play your martyr. You know very well that if you really want ls lynch, you'll get ls lynch. You always manage to convince me to do what you think
Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
September 20 2015 18:06 GMT
#1464
I will sheep rayn in lieu of reading words

##deadlinevote ls
ModeratorINFLATE YOUR POST COUNT; PLAY TL MAFIA
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
September 20 2015 18:06 GMT
#1465
You know what
I agree to lynch ls if the exorcist shoot bm
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
September 20 2015 18:06 GMT
#1466
On September 21 2015 03:05 Rels wrote:
You always manage to convince me to do what you think

yeah like D1... why do you have to make these posts?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
September 20 2015 18:08 GMT
#1467
On September 21 2015 03:06 Rels wrote:
You know what
I agree to lynch ls if the exorcist shoot bm

I would prefer James but i don't really care about this game anymore. Maybe you are right but i am 90% sure BM is not mafia.

If people won't even try to understand why this thing must be played in a certain way when there are soup kills and mafia gets the roles of NK'd ppl then it's going to be impossible to win already.
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Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
September 20 2015 18:10 GMT
#1468
On September 21 2015 03:06 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 21 2015 03:05 Rels wrote:
You always manage to convince me to do what you think

yeah like D1... why do you have to make these posts?

I'm pretty sure ls would have been lynched if you were here at eod
Anyway I'm tired fighting. I'll sheep you if you really think that is the best plan. And I agree with the fidei shot if he still lurks until tomorrow
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
September 20 2015 18:12 GMT
#1469
Still reading through BM/Rels case on him.

rayn, you said that Damdred loses interest as scum, if you ignored the DT mechanics or pretend they don't exist.

Would you vote Damdred or at least pressure him (irrespective of LS)?

He's been pretty afk.

(right now I'm trying to evalute both worlds of BM which is why I ask - can the push on Damdred make sense - and why did BM vote Damdred when he's looking at an LS mafia world, I see the late vote on LS there too.

Trying to piece that altogether. Either I'm derping, or something really isn't adding up with him.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14276 Posts
September 20 2015 18:15 GMT
#1470
Fine just lynch me if it's the best play but I still think lynching Damdred is the best move since he's very likely mafia despite what you saying Rayn.
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
September 20 2015 18:17 GMT
#1471
I am going to try to say this once more.

The reason why Vivax claimed on D1 is because then people cannot hide behind claims and HAVE to play this game by just.. playing the game. There are people who do that as town, like Dandel. Apparently he didn't give any fucks and i hate it. And i know it's because he just.. .didn't give a shit because "he gets to shoot anyways". Which is idiotic. That role is one of the best roles lategame because it cannot be counterclaimed ever, otherwise you just die.

Well, LS has not played, at all. When geript died mafia got his role. Now LS claims the ONLY thing that he can basically ever claim as mafia. Because it can (and i believe mafia thinks it will) force out a counter claim. LS is going to die anyways if he doesn't claim and he knows that. If he claims he does the best thing for scum if someone counter-claims. Because then mafia can STILL soup two people. Vivax, and the claim.

Here is why the lynch is the best:
1) LS is mafia - obviously best scenario
2) LS is town and we lynch him - we know he is town because exorcist shoot someone, hopefully mafia (yes i am really sure James is mafia), on D3 -> D2/N2 there were 2 dead town, 1 dead mafia
3) LS is town and we do not lynch him -> we lynch mafia instead - On N2 mafia soups LS + Vivax. SAME FUCKING POSITION.
4) LS is town and we do not lynch him -> we lynch town - Exorcist shoots mafia. On N2 mafia soups LS + Vivax. WORSE FUCKING POSITION.
5) LS is town and we do not lynch him -> we lynch town - Exorcist shoots LS. On N2 mafia kills whoever. WORSE FUCKING POSITION.

The only scenario, even if we lynch mafia that is not LS, is WORSE/SAME than lynching him.
The only scenario which is BETTER is if we lynch him and is mafia.
IT IS THE BEST PLAY REGARDLESS OF HIS AFFILIATION.
table for two on a tv tray
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14276 Posts
September 20 2015 18:21 GMT
#1472
Not worries Rayn Geript and I forgive you and so will God
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14276 Posts
September 20 2015 18:21 GMT
#1473
On September 21 2015 03:21 LightningStrike wrote:
No worries Rayn Geript and I forgive you and so will God

May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
September 20 2015 18:22 GMT
#1474
Now i am gonna have a glass of Talisker Dark Stormand watch some Heroes.
Maybe i'll care to put some effort tomorrow.
table for two on a tv tray
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21965 Posts
September 20 2015 18:34 GMT
#1475
On September 21 2015 03:22 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Now i am gonna have a glass of Talisker Dark Stormand watch some Heroes.
Maybe i'll care to put some effort tomorrow.


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Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
September 20 2015 18:35 GMT
#1476
Not really digging BM's case/push against Rels. I can understand the perspective that him not taking part in the mechanic dicsussion was opportunistic if he AFKed, but the language stuff and the parroting....I mean, he was widely townread based on his play D1 and same manner roughly D2, I can't see the motivation to "steal" towncred.......ehhhhhhhhhhhhh.

I'm going to wait until he gets back in thread. Just meeehhhhhhhhhhhhh.

I can buy Vivax's point that the use of the term was misleading, I saw the exchange between tictock/Rels, but the buddying argument, I remmeber the words used between them was too overly obvious, can't see scum just being too overly obvious about that. Meeehhhhhhhh.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
September 20 2015 18:36 GMT
#1477
Off topic - I am digging Talisker rayn btw - I think I dig Storm a little more than the 10 year but they are both damned good.

Admittedly better than Glenfiddich for the price point.

Anyways...
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
September 20 2015 18:37 GMT
#1478
On September 21 2015 03:06 Fecalfeast wrote:
I will sheep rayn in lieu of reading words

##deadlinevote ls


......

What do you make of Damdred?

Do you think (based on your last post and maybe what BM is saying) that Rels is being opportunistic?

Do you think he can reasonably be opportunistic when he's not really played with you in games before?
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
September 20 2015 18:52 GMT
#1479
On September 21 2015 03:36 Half the Sky wrote:
Off topic - I am digging Talisker rayn btw - I think I dig Storm a little more than the 10 year but they are both damned good.

Storm is good, Dark Storm better.
I think it was ~50eur / litre (obvs tax free).
table for two on a tv tray
Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
September 20 2015 18:54 GMT
#1480
On September 21 2015 03:37 Half the Sky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 21 2015 03:06 Fecalfeast wrote:
I will sheep rayn in lieu of reading words

##deadlinevote ls


......

What do you make of Damdred?

Do you think (based on your last post and maybe what BM is saying) that Rels is being opportunistic?

Do you think he can reasonably be opportunistic when he's not really played with you in games before?

which post do you mean from me?

I don't think we should assume he is a green check and I think he is still on the table for lynch. I think the lack of a red check claim might buy him today but if he doesn't pick it up I don't care about implied cop checks
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