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Right now as it stands I actually think voting James (Fidei86) may be the way to go, at the very least, a pressure (deadline) vote.
I also want to sort through the arguments on Rels (just a cursory glance on mobile he STILL looks townie, but I want to get to the wording that seems to be disputed) Tictock and BM.
These are just my preliminary thoughts.
I know that during the week, James works crazy hours at work. This weekend, I know Friday night we played some dota, I think he was up later than I was, I want to say until at least 3am our time? Saturday he was involved in sport all day, rugby match at night. That said, this is pretty NAI. I know he's in Newbie 14. That game is in lylo, and he's going all out (and I will probably get in trouble if I continue further talking about that game) there. Not going to kid ourselves.
So I want to push him at the very least to put some effort here. Because he has also told me that he has no idea how to play scum, and I do NOT want him to skate by.
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Back in roughly less than an hour. Should be back on desktop then.
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Note to self - comment on Fecalfeast
Rels - there's 3 known metas I know of FF.
Tryhard town (Not Themed)
Tryhard/spammy mafia (Carnaval/Ippo)
Lazy town (Carol/Titanic 7)
I'll elaborate on them more when I get home. May need to do a database dig up on him too. I'll try and identify where he is here, the ONLY meta I have not seen is lazy mafia meta, and I don't want to make the same mistake I did with WaveofShadow in Gaiden.
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On September 21 2015 01:06 Rels wrote:
Well we'll see what people have to say about you tonight. Tomorrow I'll summarize why you are scum.
wait me?
Before there was a good chance there are 2 in a group of 5 now i just am scum? i'm excited to see why
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2000 my time is not a problem btw. Will be here before and through.
Also the meta for FF I'm seeing so far is the "lazy town" meta. I'm reading through Carnaval for possible parallels, but he's spammy as shit there. And I mean really spammy "shit up the thread".
Rels having 17 pages of filter btw I'm not sure is indicative. I don't think he's been mafia but his posts have had direction and he scumhunts in a very conversational fashion, fishing for reactions and such. Which contributes to his longer filter. The question to hit upon is whether he's misleading and misdirectional if anything and so far I'm not seeing it.
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EBWOP - on Rels - "I don't think he's been mafia before on TL and in this game his posts have had...
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Is there any situation where we want to use the IML mechanic as town? It seems to me like longer days are always the best way to go unless we have an outed mafia spamming gifs or something
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oh right I was supposed to read cases one sec
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On September 21 2015 01:12 Half the Sky wrote:
Alright.
I'm on my way home, I was out all last night, I was out all day today. Since the husband is going into League marathon mode before work tonight (kill me please) I am setting aside HOURS to sort through this shit.
Offhand as I recall the questions
- is LS capable of lying/fakeclaim history
OFFHAND - I know for a fact he fakeclaimed Named Town in Himalayas and that was massive controversy after he rescinded the fakeclaim. He had a MAJOR breakdown when the pressure piled on him that almost got him in trouble with the hosting team (Fecalfeast and I had some discussion on it) but ultimately we settled for a post-game warning (reference Ban List 2.0)
- has LS ever fakeclaimed as mafia? Honestly NOT THAT I RECALL. I think he was lynched very early and picked off early in Witchcraft 3. In TL LXX Guardians he was tracked to the N1 kill. In my first ever game, Student IV, he sacrificed himself, both blues were dead so he did not fakeclaim.
- is he capable of lying? honestly he has a very difficult time. He said so himself in Witchcraft 3. He doesn't like playing scum because of the lying.
- is he capable of breaking meta? Well in JOAT he fooled us once, but he played VERY close to meta as coached by geript. To my knowledge he hasn't broken meta in a manner that benefits him as mafia.
Just saw this because I was playing some Pokemon TCGO(Trading Card Game Online). Thank for attesting to the fact that I had fake claimed as town and no I never claimed a blue role as scum before I had only claimed VT/Town(I claimed just Town in JOAT). Was this the OGI you were talking about that you said it wasn't place to talk about it?
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The Fecalfeast I'm seeing here is closer to JOAT/Carol/Titanic 7.
He was way the hell more spammy in Carnaval across 4 cycles, and was caught out on VCA. Some of the spam was pointless filler, a bit of talk on setup spec there but I'm ignoring that for here since we are in a themed game. (Carnaval was a normal mini).
FF also had a history of pushing AFKers in that game. Ippo was also 11 pages in 2 cycles, and a lot of spammy shit there too. A lot of one-liners in that game with ZERO direction.
I know Vivax said something about FF's late vote being a problem but it was not nearly as blatant as him trying to save his confirmed mafia teammate in Carnaval.
So I think the thing here is to look for a combination of lack of direction plus a crazy amount of filler. I know in Carol he was just completely lazy, and I know in titantic 7 he contradicted himself a lot as town (I cased him twice, that's how I know and he was just playing really suboptimally).
I don't think he's mafia here. Based on what I know, and what I've read I don't think he's the lynch. I am curious to read Rels' reasoning. D1 I know he's quite lazy (and three times to my questions he admitted he lacked answers largely because he just wasn't reading) and I'm seeing that here. D2 there were 1-2 posts that jumped as being somewhat town. He's a very good DT check if people want to resolve him sooner rather than later (or those who don't understand his meta) but you see more of an obvious agenda trying to pick off the easy lynches/afk people/less actives as mafia. That was very apparent in Carnaval and less so in Ippo, but still apparent.
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10 minutes from home...anyone else around?
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On September 21 2015 02:27 Half the Sky wrote:
10 minutes from home...anyone else around?
I'm pretending to read cases while I smoke weed
I really don't feel like reading atm
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On September 21 2015 02:28 Fecalfeast wrote:Show nested quote +On September 21 2015 02:27 Half the Sky wrote:
10 minutes from home...anyone else around? I'm pretending to read cases while I smoke weed I really don't feel like reading atm
At least you are being honest lol. You crack me up sometimes FF <3
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On September 21 2015 02:25 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On September 21 2015 01:12 Half the Sky wrote:
Alright.
I'm on my way home, I was out all last night, I was out all day today. Since the husband is going into League marathon mode before work tonight (kill me please) I am setting aside HOURS to sort through this shit.
Offhand as I recall the questions
- is LS capable of lying/fakeclaim history
OFFHAND - I know for a fact he fakeclaimed Named Town in Himalayas and that was massive controversy after he rescinded the fakeclaim. He had a MAJOR breakdown when the pressure piled on him that almost got him in trouble with the hosting team (Fecalfeast and I had some discussion on it) but ultimately we settled for a post-game warning (reference Ban List 2.0)
- has LS ever fakeclaimed as mafia? Honestly NOT THAT I RECALL. I think he was lynched very early and picked off early in Witchcraft 3. In TL LXX Guardians he was tracked to the N1 kill. In my first ever game, Student IV, he sacrificed himself, both blues were dead so he did not fakeclaim.
- is he capable of lying? honestly he has a very difficult time. He said so himself in Witchcraft 3. He doesn't like playing scum because of the lying.
- is he capable of breaking meta? Well in JOAT he fooled us once, but he played VERY close to meta as coached by geript. To my knowledge he hasn't broken meta in a manner that benefits him as mafia. Just saw this because I was playing some Pokemon TCGO(Trading Card Game Online). Thank for attesting to the fact that I had fake claimed as town and no I never claimed a blue role as scum before I had only claimed VT/Town(I claimed just Town in JOAT). Was this the OGI you were talking about that you said it wasn't place to talk about it?
Nope. The OGI is related to your personal life, which is why I stopped short of talking about it. I highlighted the parts from stuff you said about your university coursework that alluded to it.
I admit I am a bit cautious on you breaking meta to lie but for what I know it is still in the tinfoil world for me - you've never done it before and you openly admitted in QTs/etc that you don't want to/won't do it - and I'd be a bit more concerned if you were still alive late game. The fact that BM had to coach you on Skype on how to pull it off (and you still couldn't) in witchcraft 3 is clear indication enough.
In Guardians I don't think you had to deal with any of that, and you claimed scum anyhow when you were tracked by Trfel. You didn't even try getting around it at all.
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On September 21 2015 02:29 LightningStrike wrote:
I here HTS what up girl?
Not much. Trying to power through a few filters and re-read the thread on mobile. Apparently there's a meeting in about 90 minutes a bunch of people are going to return here to discuss a few things.
Fidei also mentioned he would return to allocate more time to Mafia Sunday night (it's 1830 here, not sure what time he'd be around) but I'm hoping he can split time between NSM14 and here.
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On September 21 2015 02:30 Half the Sky wrote:Show nested quote +On September 21 2015 02:25 LightningStrike wrote:On September 21 2015 01:12 Half the Sky wrote:
Alright.
I'm on my way home, I was out all last night, I was out all day today. Since the husband is going into League marathon mode before work tonight (kill me please) I am setting aside HOURS to sort through this shit.
Offhand as I recall the questions
- is LS capable of lying/fakeclaim history
OFFHAND - I know for a fact he fakeclaimed Named Town in Himalayas and that was massive controversy after he rescinded the fakeclaim. He had a MAJOR breakdown when the pressure piled on him that almost got him in trouble with the hosting team (Fecalfeast and I had some discussion on it) but ultimately we settled for a post-game warning (reference Ban List 2.0)
- has LS ever fakeclaimed as mafia? Honestly NOT THAT I RECALL. I think he was lynched very early and picked off early in Witchcraft 3. In TL LXX Guardians he was tracked to the N1 kill. In my first ever game, Student IV, he sacrificed himself, both blues were dead so he did not fakeclaim.
- is he capable of lying? honestly he has a very difficult time. He said so himself in Witchcraft 3. He doesn't like playing scum because of the lying.
- is he capable of breaking meta? Well in JOAT he fooled us once, but he played VERY close to meta as coached by geript. To my knowledge he hasn't broken meta in a manner that benefits him as mafia. Just saw this because I was playing some Pokemon TCGO(Trading Card Game Online). Thank for attesting to the fact that I had fake claimed as town and no I never claimed a blue role as scum before I had only claimed VT/Town(I claimed just Town in JOAT). Was this the OGI you were talking about that you said it wasn't place to talk about it? Nope. The OGI is related to your personal life, which is why I stopped short of talking about it. I highlighted the parts from stuff you said about your university coursework that alluded to it. I admit I am a bit cautious on you breaking meta to lie but for what I know it is still in the tinfoil world for me - you've never done it before and you openly admitted in QTs/etc that you don't want to/won't do it - and I'd be a bit more concerned if you were still alive late game. The fact that BM had to coach you on Skype on how to pull it off (and you still couldn't) in witchcraft 3 is clear indication enough. In Guardians I don't think you had to deal with any of that, and you claimed scum anyhow when you were tracked by Trfel. You didn't even try getting around it at all.
To be fair in Guardians I actually thought about fake claiming Cop but however Rayn at the time had claimed Tracker and I got tracked by the Orb from Tfrel so I had claimed scum to save my roleblocker for a few days since I was a goon with Palmar being the other goon.(fucking sicklucker's crazy plan actually worked in that game using the orb to kill Palmar lol)
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On September 21 2015 02:33 Half the Sky wrote:Not much. Trying to power through a few filters and re-read the thread on mobile. Apparently there's a meeting in about 90 minutes a bunch of people are going to return here to discuss a few things. Fidei also mentioned he would return to allocate more time to Mafia Sunday night (it's 1830 here, not sure what time he'd be around) but I'm hoping he can split time between NSM14 and here.
Isn't a little harder to read stuff on mobile lol. Also you asked someone to kill you because your Husband wants to play LoL why not play with him 
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On September 21 2015 01:52 Fecalfeast wrote:Show nested quote +On September 21 2015 01:06 Rels wrote:
Well we'll see what people have to say about you tonight. Tomorrow I'll summarize why you are scum. wait me? Before there was a good chance there are 2 in a group of 5 now i just am scum? i'm excited to see why
No :p was talking to bm
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Your page argument is stupid though. I don't know why having 17 pages is alignment indicative
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