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Vivax
21769 Posts
vote LS Rayn is mafia in this game boys | ||
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Bill Murray
United States9292 Posts
On September 19 2015 15:44 Bill Murray wrote: I 100% disagree with this we can afford that... in fact it would be good for town we CANT afford losing 3 in 1 night either way with 3 or with 2 we can do the 2 fer first off, it will prevent a mylo scenario which is awkward 8v2 lynch 7v2 nightkill 6v2 lynch 5v2 nightkill4v2 (mylo) but if you do your scenario 8v2 lynch 7v2 soup 5v2 lynch 4v2 nightkill 3v2 (cleaner... better odds of lynching mafia in lylo ass opposed to mylo) TL;DR with 2 or 3 left we are in an awkward scenario where it will end up in mylo instead of lylo which are better odds for mafia. What do I propose? No lynch? Nope. Wanna know why? Angelic Protection. We have Geript in the graveyard dictating where protections should be from the masses. We get a good lynch, and a good protect, and we are potentially ahead of where we were before. Tictock, I don't scumread you at all anymore. Reads change over the course of a game. I am, and have been, deadset on lynching Damdred. Perhaps I'm wrong, but I'm just not feeling town-Damdred. I also feel he has overly interacted with FecalFeast, and the way they both acted with the Grail was pretty peculiar. I believe you're asking me about LS? Well, his interactions with Rayn have me leaning town on him, but I saw 1 post he made that reminded me of his scum game. I'm not that good at reading him, so I don't want to be like "ermagerd hez tern" and be wrong So here is the first thing he stole: On September 20 2015 18:06 Rels wrote: OK I'll resume this post to see if it makes sense. Assuming Shining wasn't mafia, as I'm pretty sure he was town, and assuming we mislynch every day, the three possibilities are: Red check claimed: 7-3 is now 7-2 mislynch 6-2 after NK Two mislynches left before losing Red check not claimed: 7-3 is now 6-3 mislynch 5-3 after NK One mislynch left before losing Green check not claimed: 7-3 is now 6-3 mislynch 5-3 after NK One mislyng before losing It doesn't make sense for the inquisitor to not claim. On September 19 2015 14:44 Tictock wrote: Vote Count: ~24hrs before EoD LightningStrike (2): The Shining (1): Dandel Ion (1): Rels Damdred (5): Holy Grail Vote geript (2): raynpelikoneet, TicTock (1): Rels raynpelikoneet (1): LightningStrike Fecalfeast (3): Fecalfeast, The Shining, Half the Sky Vivax (1): geript EoDVote Count LightningStrike (2): The Shining (0): Dandel Ion (9): Rels, Damdred, Tictock, Half the Sky, Fidei86, The Shining, Fecalfeast, LightningStrike, geript Damdred (2): Bill Murray (0): Holy Grail Vote geript (2): raynpelikoneet, TicTock (1): raynpelikoneet (1): LightningStrike Fecalfeast (3): Fecalfeast, Vivax (0): EoDVote Count: Cleaned up with colors! Dandel Ion (9): Rels, Damdred, Tictock, Half the Sky, Fidei86, The Shining, Fecalfeast, LightningStrike, geript LightningStrike (2): raynpelikoneet, Dandel Ion Damdred (2): Bill Murray, Vivax Holy Grail Vote geript (7): raynpelikoneet, Bill Murray, geript, Damdred, The Shining, Rels, Dandel Ion Vivax (4): Half the Sky, Vivax, Fidei86, LightningStrike Fecalfeast (1): Fecalfeast Ok this doesn't really tell us a whole lot, or at least I dont see much information from this, but maybe someone who is better with VCA stuff cna read more into it than I, also now we have a couple of VCs for D1 to look at. The runaway train that grew on Dandel probably has all the mafia on it. Rayn has been pretty clearly town, Vivax is unCC'd and I'm leaning town on BM, so that's where I'm going to put my focus. Damdred, LS and FF and an outside chance of Fidei are the people I'm thinking are most likely scum. I'm not really sure if I'm still scum reading Fidei, but I'm gunna leave him on the scummier side of null for now untill I get a chance to reread him. I know that he's playing in multiple games at once so that split of his focus might be affecting my read on him. And then stealing tictocks On September 19 2015 19:22 Rels wrote: Pretty cool (= I prefer a colored vote count with switches though. Here it is: EoDVote Count LightningStrike (2): The Shining (0): Dandel Ion (9): Rels, Damdred, Tictock, Half the Sky, Fidei86, The Shining, Fecalfeast, LightningStrike, geript Damdred (2): Bill Murray (0): Holy Grail Vote geript (2): raynpelikoneet, TicTock (1): raynpelikoneet (1): LightningStrike Fecalfeast (3): Fecalfeast, Vivax (0): Not much to say with that big of a wagon. Dandel voting for LS at the end is weird; why did he not fucking shot LS. I disagree with BM outside the main wagon being town indicative. Maybe if he was here at EOD and had reasons to do so, it would mean something; but the reason he's not on the main wagon is that he was not here. | ||
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Rels
France13467 Posts
On September 20 2015 21:51 raynpelikoneet wrote: If he gets counter-claimed the pope dies with vivax anyways. There is literally no downside for making the claim. But good enough, at least we know geript's role 100%.  geript could be pope too if LS is mafia please explain how you know geript is 100% wraith | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43266 Posts
Literally we end up in a SAME FUCKING SITUATION EVEN IF LS IS TOWN!!!!!! 1) LS is mafia. We lynch mafia and have 1 person to soap (vivax). 2) LS is town - the exorcist can shoot mafia, we have 1 person to soap (vivax) It is still 2 dead town 1 dead mafia. Stop being terrible. Not to even mention [/b]CLAIMING WONT SAVE YOU YOU DUMBASS!!!"!!"!!!! AND YOU MADE THE ONLY CLAIM, LS, THAT IS THE BEST THING FOR MAFIA.[/b] You should have played the game properly if you are town. | ||
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Rels
France13467 Posts
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43266 Posts
On September 20 2015 21:55 Rels wrote: geript could be pope too if LS is mafia please explain how you know geript is 100% wraith it doesn't matter we are gonna massclaim anyways when there is 1 mafia left. It doesn't matter which one geript was. | ||
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Bill Murray
United States9292 Posts
On September 20 2015 21:41 Vivax wrote: And rayn keeps bringing this cop argument when he should realize as well that the cop claim is only worth it if he got off at least two checks. Or me and the cop get souped the next night for just one witch. Rayn puts it as if Damdred's alignment was relevant but he doesn't really care while he keeps using that excuse to not do anything about Dam and push the easy lynch LS. So rayn is mafia too, which also explains BM's odd behaviour towards rayn on D1. Just not sure who between FF/Damdred is the most likely third. FF gave me a weird impression during the course of the game but if Dam is town then I don't know why he's (not) playing like that. vivax that wouldnt be that bad we are gonna hit mylo if we have odd number kills losing you + cop for 1 red is actually worth it that way it doesnt end up 3 town 1 maf potentially (3 town is worse than 2 in that scenario) On September 20 2015 21:46 Rels wrote: The ONLY time when this is scummy is if I disform the original post to get my team an advantage so show me where I did that or show me where the original plan was bad otherwise your reasonning is super bad you did that with my post | ||
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LightningStrike
United States14276 Posts
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Vivax
21769 Posts
On September 20 2015 21:55 Rels wrote: geript could be pope too if LS is mafia please explain how you know geript is 100% wraith I think it has already been said somewhere that LS is exposing himself to the risk of a double CC if he says he's the pope AND he has been visited by the wraith (which would make sense if it was geript cause he was suspicious of LS I suppose) | ||
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Bill Murray
United States9292 Posts
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43266 Posts
On September 20 2015 21:58 Vivax wrote: I think it has already been said somewhere that LS is exposing himself to the risk of a double CC if he says he's the pope AND he has been visited by the wraith (which would make sense if it was geript cause he was suspicious of LS I suppose) DOUBLE CC IS TERRIBLE BECAUSE WE FUCKING LOST THREE PEOPLE AT NIGHT. Fuck why do i end up playing this setup with dumb people. I really hope i was mafia.... | ||
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Rels
France13467 Posts
On September 20 2015 21:57 Bill Murray wrote: vivax that wouldnt be that bad we are gonna hit mylo if we have odd number kills losing you + cop for 1 red is actually worth it that way it doesnt end up 3 town 1 maf potentially (3 town is worse than 2 in that scenario) you did that with my post how I am fucking turning your idea into a mafia advantage if I have he SAME CONCLUSIONS AS YOU and you didn't do it for the other two things: votecounts and check plan | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43266 Posts
true story. | ||
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Bill Murray
United States9292 Posts
Furthermore, if what he's claiming is true, and the WW is dead ... WW strategy is right out because Dandelion was the Grandler and WW strategy only worked with an alive Pope or Grandler | ||
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Bill Murray
United States9292 Posts
On September 20 2015 21:59 raynpelikoneet wrote: DOUBLE CC IS TERRIBLE BECAUSE WE FUCKING LOST THREE PEOPLE AT NIGHT. Fuck why do i end up playing this setup with dumb people. I really hope i was mafia.... I agree that Vivax is playing subpar this game | ||
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Rels
France13467 Posts
As I said, the only time it is scum indicative is if I disform ideas to get my team an advantage And he couldn't prove that he is mafia | ||
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LightningStrike
United States14276 Posts
On September 20 2015 21:59 raynpelikoneet wrote: Also geript checks me as a wraith about 99 times out of 100. true story. No offense but he would rather go to me since he was suspicious of me over you or his role is actually RNG and he visted me instead of you because of RNG idk I don't even know but I don't think's RNG he would visted me on purpose. | ||
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Rels
France13467 Posts
On September 20 2015 21:59 raynpelikoneet wrote: Also geript checks me as a wraith about 99 times out of 100. true story. OK that is fucking true ##DeadlineVote LightningStrike | ||
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Vivax
21769 Posts
But why does rayn acknowledge this in this case and not in the case of an hypotheitcal inquisitor outing Damdred? | ||
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Rels
France13467 Posts
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