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On September 20 2015 21:38 LightningStrike wrote:You know what fuck it I don't even want to live the long game for my role to be useful because I would most likely be mislynched before it becomes good. I'm the POPE I was visted by Geript who is the WANDERING WRAITH I was wondering why the fuck I would get Night 1 check result from Palmar but it turned out the pm was that Geript visted me and he was the WANDERING WRAITH before he died so I know Geript is 100% town other than NK WIFOM but also because he was the WANDERING WRAITH because he visted me. Here is my obligatory picture of a pope: ![[image loading]](http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2013/12/25/1387974381061/Pope-Francis-at-St-Peters-014.jpg)
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On September 20 2015 21:40 Bill Murray wrote:Show nested quote +On September 20 2015 21:39 raynpelikoneet wrote:
BM he actually has a point because i kinda find it really hard to believe you have a strong town read on me based on early game (i had basically said geript is town, LS is mafia, cop check should be directed because of reasons).
And then you... just what? forget one of these things and use it against him when it should be a reason to TOWNread him (as you are basically townreading me for the same thing)? who is "him" here? Rels? Vivax? who has a point? Rels? Vivax? use what against who? i dont see how using logic A for player A means logic A works for player b you're being illogical
I make a plan.
Rels agrees with it.
You townread me.
You scumread him FOR agreeing with me.
You are using "sheeping rayn" against him.
And I AM BEING ILLOGICAL?
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And rayn keeps bringing this cop argument when he should realize as well that the cop claim is only worth it if he got off at least two checks. Or me and the cop get souped the next night for just one witch.
Rayn puts it as if Damdred's alignment was relevant but he doesn't really care while he keeps using that excuse to not do anything about Dam and push the easy lynch LS.
So rayn is mafia too, which also explains BM's odd behaviour towards rayn on D1.
Just not sure who between FF/Damdred is the most likely third. FF gave me a weird impression during the course of the game but if Dam is town then I don't know why he's (not) playing like that.
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nono, this doesn't mean LS is town.
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Just letting you know Vivax you read was right the entire time and you haven't become shit.
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On September 20 2015 21:42 raynpelikoneet wrote:
nono, this doesn't mean LS is town.
Yes it does
EVERYBODY is scumreading LS at this point
So this is a bus
Why wouldn't LS lie low and let his partner bus him if he was mafia ?
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On September 20 2015 21:38 Bill Murray wrote:Show nested quote +On September 20 2015 21:37 Vivax wrote:
Rels is NEVER mafia in this game, BM. Nitpicking over that stuff is just ridiculous. He's pretty much the guy who puts himself out there the most in this game and does a shitton of research out of his own motivation.
The only way you don't see this is cause you aren't town. his "research" is largely stolen, at least in the last 10 pages. There are 3 major instances of this. 1) cop plan 2) lynch analysis 3) wagon analysis
That doesn't make anyone mafia, and nobody gives a shit about that kind of analysis. When you all talk about the same stuff there's going to be similarities. What you're arguing about is just dumb.
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ill put it into layman's terms
if someone is strong at setup speculation (you) and i know you do that as town (you do) which you were doing earlygame
i am going to townread that person
if someone wins a lot as town and im town im going to try to make sure i read that person as town as soon as possible
i did that with you, i felt comfortable you were town, and then i continued on from there. i felt like geript could be mafia because you townread him didnt matter he had a series of small(ish) posts and wasnt really pushing the thread forward in the way i would have liked to see him. i dont read geript as easily as i read you. your town and mafia play are COMPLETELY different whereas he is kind of similar in his town and mafia play
As mafia you were really kind of quiet on voice mafia and you would only speak up every now and then to try to do what you would have to do to act like you would act when you were town. when you were town you would basically tell people to shut up and do what you would want to do
look here... you're like "no wait" "bm you need to X" it's obv you're town to me based upon our voice mafia play
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We are still lynching LS.
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On September 20 2015 21:41 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On September 20 2015 21:40 Bill Murray wrote:On September 20 2015 21:39 raynpelikoneet wrote:
BM he actually has a point because i kinda find it really hard to believe you have a strong town read on me based on early game (i had basically said geript is town, LS is mafia, cop check should be directed because of reasons).
And then you... just what? forget one of these things and use it against him when it should be a reason to TOWNread him (as you are basically townreading me for the same thing)? who is "him" here? Rels? Vivax? who has a point? Rels? Vivax? use what against who? i dont see how using logic A for player A means logic A works for player b you're being illogical I make a plan. Rels agrees with it. You townread me. You scumread him FOR agreeing with me. You are using "sheeping rayn" against him. And I AM BEING ILLOGICAL?
no im scumreading him for stealing peoples posts and plagiarizing them
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On September 20 2015 21:43 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On September 20 2015 21:42 raynpelikoneet wrote:
nono, this doesn't mean LS is town. Yes it does EVERYBODY is scumreading LS at this point So this is a bus Why wouldn't LS lie low and let his partner bus him if he was mafia ?
shut up the claim is the only claim he does as scum.
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On September 20 2015 21:44 raynpelikoneet wrote:
We are still lynching LS.
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WHY THE FUCK WOULD YOU VOTE YOUR FUCKING POPE LIKE SERIOUSLY? ARE YOU THIS BAD RAYN I WAS THOUGHT YOU WERE A GOOD PLAYER BUT YOU TURNED OUT TO BE BAD  .
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On September 20 2015 21:44 Bill Murray wrote:Show nested quote +On September 20 2015 21:41 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 20 2015 21:40 Bill Murray wrote:On September 20 2015 21:39 raynpelikoneet wrote:
BM he actually has a point because i kinda find it really hard to believe you have a strong town read on me based on early game (i had basically said geript is town, LS is mafia, cop check should be directed because of reasons).
And then you... just what? forget one of these things and use it against him when it should be a reason to TOWNread him (as you are basically townreading me for the same thing)? who is "him" here? Rels? Vivax? who has a point? Rels? Vivax? use what against who? i dont see how using logic A for player A means logic A works for player b you're being illogical I make a plan. Rels agrees with it. You townread me. You scumread him FOR agreeing with me. You are using "sheeping rayn" against him. And I AM BEING ILLOGICAL? no im scumreading him for stealing peoples posts and plagiarizing them
The ONLY time when this is scummy is if I disform the original post to get my team an advantage
so show me where I did that
or show me where the original plan was bad
otherwise your reasonning is super bad
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On September 20 2015 21:45 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On September 20 2015 21:43 Rels wrote:On September 20 2015 21:42 raynpelikoneet wrote:
nono, this doesn't mean LS is town. Yes it does EVERYBODY is scumreading LS at this point So this is a bus Why wouldn't LS lie low and let his partner bus him if he was mafia ? shut up the claim is the only claim he does as scum.
no because he also claimed geript was the wraith
so even assuming he is mafia and killed geript and geript was wraith or pope
so now he can be counter claimed by BOTH pope and wraith
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actually it might be good for mafia to trade a dead player for the real pope
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If LS is mafia this is literally the only claim he makes.
Noone should CC.
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If he gets counter-claimed the pope dies with vivax anyways.
There is literally no downside for making the claim. But good enough, at least we know geript's role 100%. 
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On September 20 2015 21:51 raynpelikoneet wrote:If he gets counter-claimed the pope dies with vivax anyways. There is literally no downside for making the claim. But good enough, at least we know geript's role 100%.
yeah that is fucking true
why would he do that in a bus situation though
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Seriously Rayn why you think I said I didn't want to claim Day 1 and Day 2 until now? I"M THE REAL FUCKING POPE WETHER YOU LIKE IT OR NOT WHEN YOU SEE POST GAME AND IF YOU ARE TOWN YOU WILL REALIZED THAT I WAS THE POPE ALL ALONG YOU MIGHT DRINK YOUR SORROWS AWAY.....
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