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On September 18 2015 05:36 Fecalfeast wrote:Show nested quote +On September 18 2015 05:34 geript wrote:
Also, IDK why anyone was voting for FF for grail. You want it on town more than anything. Put it on me or put it on Vivax. I don't care which. It's not terribly important to keep around. It's really not. Just make sure it gets on someone we're sure is town. If they kill Vivax on N1, who cares. If they kill rayn on N2, then we still likely only keep the grail for 1 day. Big thing is though just make sure we've got it cleared on town.
FF isn't anything close to obvious town. Hell his run for it is actually really odd b/c from what I remember of him he spent more time focusing on getting it than commenting on the thread. How much time have i spent in filters before making my comments on the thread? You're just assuming how much time I've put into the game and that's not cool. I'm not saying you're wrong about my projecting town but to cite the time I've spent is something you can't actually prove...
For having spent a "bunch of time" in filters, your filter doesn't show it whatsoever.
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On September 18 2015 05:31 geript wrote:Show nested quote +On September 18 2015 05:27 Rels wrote:On September 18 2015 05:25 geript wrote:On September 18 2015 05:24 Fidei86 wrote:
@geript I just haven't had a lot of time over the past couple of days. *shrug* no offence to Palmar, but I didn't sign up for this game, and if I had had time it would have been spent filter diving in Newbie XIV where we're near LyLo. I've junked a work event early to come home now, and I'll post some more detailed thoughts. Sure. I get that. That still makes you a fucking fantastic cop check. 1000% IMO the best cop check because there's very little to read you off of AND you're outside your established meta. His catch up post was super logical though. Damdred saying multiple times he will catch up while not doing so is weird. I'm not trying to be mean or hypocritical, but you can to quote/link what specifically you liked and where?
Will quote my post I made at the time
In exchange can you read / comment my dandel case ? Cause we re starting to talk about a lot of things but I'm still pretty sure he's mafia
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On September 18 2015 05:36 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On September 17 2015 05:27 LightningStrike wrote:On September 17 2015 05:25 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 17 2015 05:23 LightningStrike wrote:
I here and got out of class early and I been trying to answer people's concerns straight up to the best of my ability rayn. Plus I take you over Vivax because I can't remember much of Vivax other than he's the Martyr because no one cced him. We don't want him to have it because if he dies when he got it than we lose it for the rest of the game I think if I read the op correctly. okay. if you are sure i am town and you are right why would i not die? Angel save assuming Vivax dies from the soup. Also I just checked the op about the timing of the lynch and it's 72 hour days so tomorrow is the deadline so that is a relief for me so I can be here tomorrow at deadline  Here it is
So how do you get a townread out this post exactly?
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On September 18 2015 05:40 geript wrote:Show nested quote +On September 18 2015 05:36 Rels wrote:On September 17 2015 05:27 LightningStrike wrote:On September 17 2015 05:25 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 17 2015 05:23 LightningStrike wrote:
I here and got out of class early and I been trying to answer people's concerns straight up to the best of my ability rayn. Plus I take you over Vivax because I can't remember much of Vivax other than he's the Martyr because no one cced him. We don't want him to have it because if he dies when he got it than we lose it for the rest of the game I think if I read the op correctly. okay. if you are sure i am town and you are right why would i not die? Angel save assuming Vivax dies from the soup. Also I just checked the op about the timing of the lynch and it's 72 hour days so tomorrow is the deadline so that is a relief for me so I can be here tomorrow at deadline Here it is So how do you get a townread out this post exactly?
Please geript its hard to keep up in phone 
I was quoting that to show Hts that ls absence was not nai but scum indicative
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On September 18 2015 05:40 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On September 18 2015 05:31 geript wrote:On September 18 2015 05:27 Rels wrote:On September 18 2015 05:25 geript wrote:On September 18 2015 05:24 Fidei86 wrote:
@geript I just haven't had a lot of time over the past couple of days. *shrug* no offence to Palmar, but I didn't sign up for this game, and if I had had time it would have been spent filter diving in Newbie XIV where we're near LyLo. I've junked a work event early to come home now, and I'll post some more detailed thoughts. Sure. I get that. That still makes you a fucking fantastic cop check. 1000% IMO the best cop check because there's very little to read you off of AND you're outside your established meta. His catch up post was super logical though. Damdred saying multiple times he will catch up while not doing so is weird. I'm not trying to be mean or hypocritical, but you can to quote/link what specifically you liked and where? Will quote my post I made at the time In exchange can you read / comment my dandel case ? Cause we re starting to talk about a lot of things but I'm still pretty sure he's mafia
I have, but tbh I don't remember much of it. I do remember looking at Dandel's filter sometime around this morning or lunch and seeing far more than I expected with even a few hints of thoughts. My inactivity read on him doesn't feel as right as I would've liked.
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I think LS just made a mistake on the setup, honestly. It's hardly a cardinal sin...
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On September 18 2015 05:37 Fecalfeast wrote:Show nested quote +On September 18 2015 05:36 Half the Sky wrote:On September 18 2015 05:32 Fecalfeast wrote:
hts is there anything I can address or is it my laziness that's got you? It was something you said in response to Damdred. About the flip flopping of his read on Shining. I read both his posts and his change in reads plus where Shining talked about his therapy/anger management, and there was enough of a time lapse between those phrases where the reasoning for his change in read made sense. I was going to check your filter to see the context of what you said, because what he said about his change in read made sense once you checked for context in both his and Shining's filters. I did not check both his and shining's filters for context, it was a hasty remark for sure.
Does that change your opinion of Damdred at all? You had Damdred on a lynch list.
On September 18 2015 02:18 Fecalfeast wrote:
Damdred has multiple times said he will provide content and has yet to deliver save for a flip-flop on his shining read
And he provided a read on LS who is proving contentious. Your thoughts?
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On September 18 2015 05:41 geript wrote:Show nested quote +On September 18 2015 05:40 Rels wrote:On September 18 2015 05:31 geript wrote:On September 18 2015 05:27 Rels wrote:On September 18 2015 05:25 geript wrote:On September 18 2015 05:24 Fidei86 wrote:
@geript I just haven't had a lot of time over the past couple of days. *shrug* no offence to Palmar, but I didn't sign up for this game, and if I had had time it would have been spent filter diving in Newbie XIV where we're near LyLo. I've junked a work event early to come home now, and I'll post some more detailed thoughts. Sure. I get that. That still makes you a fucking fantastic cop check. 1000% IMO the best cop check because there's very little to read you off of AND you're outside your established meta. His catch up post was super logical though. Damdred saying multiple times he will catch up while not doing so is weird. I'm not trying to be mean or hypocritical, but you can to quote/link what specifically you liked and where? Will quote my post I made at the time In exchange can you read / comment my dandel case ? Cause we re starting to talk about a lot of things but I'm still pretty sure he's mafia I have, but tbh I don't remember much of it. I do remember looking at Dandel's filter sometime around this morning or lunch and seeing far more than I expected with even a few hints of thoughts. My inactivity read on him doesn't feel as right as I would've liked.
Not talking about inactivity though
He said shining was scum because he wasn't scumreading damdred
Which is false
There is more but this is the strongest point
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On September 18 2015 05:42 Fidei86 wrote:
I think LS just made a mistake on the setup, honestly. It's hardly a cardinal sin...
Yeah that part, he's been having trouble grasping the mechanics I can tell. Shit I'm also having trouble with mechs as well.
If LS is mafia it's not for that. I'm more interested in his agenda and fleshing it out. People who don't know how LS processes things in games are going to misconstrue/easily mislynch him. So I feel it's important to flesh out his reads and his direction. That's how I think I can get a scum LS.
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On September 16 2015 17:19 Rels wrote:Yeees fidei I love your big post (= I really hoped you were town too! Let's reformate the team we had last game with TT. No JJ allowed this time! Looking forward to play with you. (= I agree with most of your post except: Show nested quote +On September 16 2015 08:28 Fidei86 wrote:
- I think Lightning Strike is town, and I think the early push on him was suspect. I don't know how any of you can be surprised that LS says stuff that doesn't add up early on. He's done that in every game I've seen him in, and he's also basically like that in voice. The way that he responded to Rels at his post #362 (basically "I'm not talking to you any more") felt very genuine, and exactly how I'd expect angsty town LS to respond. Yes the way he answered was genuine. But did you really think the early push was suspect ? Maybe you don't realize 'cause you weren't here at the beginning, but LS's first posts were super scum indicative. Show nested quote +On September 16 2015 08:28 Fidei86 wrote:
- I think the person who comes out from the LS push looking the worst is TT. At his post #218 he basically says that LS is a "fine lynch", but his reasons are just re-hashes of what other people have posted earlier. He then takes it back at (#473) after others already had. I also think his town reads of Rayn, Rels and Vivax feel a little ... safe. I think thread sentiment is all pretty set on those three already, for pretty obvious reasons. When TT was mafia in HG he felt like he was always on the right side of every argument, and so far he reminds me of this. Disclaimer: you may be right and I'm a fool. But TT was the first person in the game to try hard. I think it makes him 99% town. For me, he is confirmed town atm, and nothing has changed my view on him thus far. Show nested quote +On September 16 2015 08:28 Fidei86 wrote:
- Rels looks towny insofar as his activity level goes, but he was also early on the LS 'wagon', although he didn't vote for it. I also don't like his TT read, and quite a lot of his activity seems responsive rather than pro-active, which is different from our last game together. Then again, that game (Personalities) was pretty weird and so IDK whether it's a reliable guide to someone's meta. The two things you are suspecting me for ... are the two things I disagreed in your post (= so it is super logical you find me weird. Reading what I wrote earlier, did that change your read of me ? Show nested quote +On September 16 2015 08:28 Fidei86 wrote:
I don't have a good handle on geript, TS (whose thread entry got a lot of talk, but which seemed pretty NAI to me) and FF. Not sure I agree with TS anymore, but yeah for the other two. Especially geript.
My reaction to fidei s initial catch-up post
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On September 18 2015 05:41 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On September 18 2015 05:40 geript wrote:On September 18 2015 05:36 Rels wrote:On September 17 2015 05:27 LightningStrike wrote:On September 17 2015 05:25 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 17 2015 05:23 LightningStrike wrote:
I here and got out of class early and I been trying to answer people's concerns straight up to the best of my ability rayn. Plus I take you over Vivax because I can't remember much of Vivax other than he's the Martyr because no one cced him. We don't want him to have it because if he dies when he got it than we lose it for the rest of the game I think if I read the op correctly. okay. if you are sure i am town and you are right why would i not die? Angel save assuming Vivax dies from the soup. Also I just checked the op about the timing of the lynch and it's 72 hour days so tomorrow is the deadline so that is a relief for me so I can be here tomorrow at deadline Here it is So how do you get a townread out this post exactly? Please geript its hard to keep up in phone I was quoting that to show Hts that ls absence was not nai but scum indicative
Alright. I see where you are going with that. It would fall in line with if he's not around, he doesn't have to worry about trying to lie. Because we know he has difficulty lying. I can accept that argument.
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Inactivity thing I'm very waffley on right now.
Point 2 is maybe ok. IDK. Dandel puts in literally 0 effort as mafia. But if he's going to fabricate shit he usually tends to be mostly right. I think he would've caught that as mafia.
Point 3. Meh. There were a few points where I thought you might be mafia. Fuck if I know why now. So attacking you meh. Especially when said "attacks" are pretty bland.
TBH, the case just comes off as biased.
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IE. like you want him to be scum more than you've proven that he's scum.
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@HTS why are you voting for Vivax for the grail? I was thinking that he's a good bet because (1) he's most likely town, being unCCed (barring some kind of rayn-like fake claim, which is too tin foil at this stage to consider) and (2) he hasn't been as active as other people, so he's not exactly a great NK target. What do you think? I think another good target would be someone super active and super townie, like rayn or Rels, but the risk of putting it on mafia makes me wary of anyone else..
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On September 18 2015 05:46 geript wrote:
IE. like you want him to be scum more than you've proven that he's scum.
OK I understand the 3rd part may be omgus.
The second point is proof he's scum though. He said something illogical and refused to explain it
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I'm about to take my leave as I don't have permanent internet access for still like 1-2 weeks.
Going to vote Damdred as I am still not impressed by his plaý and he seems to have the best chances of getting lynched among my suspects.
I really think BM is mafia but you aren't convinced. Well, enjoy having him around I say, whatever happens I'm going to die tonight.
Remember this: My death will be announced if I die by martyring. Not sure if the actual target will be revealed atm and dont wanna check. Anyway the point is that whoever was targeted can as well role claim since mafia will know his role even if I sacrifice myself for him.
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BTW geript you feel townie now. I would prefer you to have the grail over ff.
I still would prefer TT though.
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On September 18 2015 05:48 Fidei86 wrote:
@HTS why are you voting for Vivax for the grail? I was thinking that he's a good bet because (1) he's most likely town, being unCCed (barring some kind of rayn-like fake claim, which is too tin foil at this stage to consider) and (2) he hasn't been as active as other people, so he's not exactly a great NK target. What do you think? I think another good target would be someone super active and super townie, like rayn or Rels, but the risk of putting it on mafia makes me wary of anyone else..
If you aren't sure of geript, then go Vivax. The key thing is to make sure it goes to town. #1 is basically it.
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Rels, I think there's cross talk here. I've been mostly referring to LS and I think my lack of clarity is mixing up who we're talking about.
I'm fine with not lynching Fido, but I do think he's a decent check.
I was asky why you think LS is town. Like that LS read from Fido is pure chainsaw; doens't mean anything, but there's not a good reason to say "hey, LS is town here." I get that LS quite often gets himself in trouble early on; but that's true of both alignments in my experience. Hell, he resorted to bussing really hard when it was really bad to in JOAT to "feel comfortable" and get out of "called scum" zone.
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On September 18 2015 05:48 Fidei86 wrote:
@HTS why are you voting for Vivax for the grail? I was thinking that he's a good bet because (1) he's most likely town, being unCCed (barring some kind of rayn-like fake claim, which is too tin foil at this stage to consider) and (2) he hasn't been as active as other people, so he's not exactly a great NK target. What do you think? I think another good target would be someone super active and super townie, like rayn or Rels, but the risk of putting it on mafia makes me wary of anyone else..
Putting it on someone super active or super townie means putting it on someone with a high risk of getting NKd. If you're going to put it on someone with a high risk of getting NKd, might as well put it on the unCCd martyr, not anyone else.
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