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geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
September 17 2015 20:51 GMT
#981
On September 18 2015 05:49 Vivax wrote:
I'm about to take my leave as I don't have permanent internet access for still like 1-2 weeks.

Going to vote Damdred as I am still not impressed by his plaý and he seems to have the best chances of getting lynched among my suspects.

I really think BM is mafia but you aren't convinced. Well, enjoy having him around I say, whatever happens I'm going to die tonight.

Remember this: My death will be announced if I die by martyring. Not sure if the actual target will be revealed atm and dont wanna check. Anyway the point is that whoever was targeted can as well role claim since mafia will know his role even if I sacrifice myself for him.

DON'T EVER USE YOUR ROLE PERIOD
Fidei86
Profile Joined May 2015
United Kingdom2116 Posts
September 17 2015 20:52 GMT
#982
On September 18 2015 05:50 The Shining wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 18 2015 05:48 Fidei86 wrote:
@HTS why are you voting for Vivax for the grail? I was thinking that he's a good bet because (1) he's most likely town, being unCCed (barring some kind of rayn-like fake claim, which is too tin foil at this stage to consider) and (2) he hasn't been as active as other people, so he's not exactly a great NK target. What do you think? I think another good target would be someone super active and super townie, like rayn or Rels, but the risk of putting it on mafia makes me wary of anyone else..


Putting it on someone super active or super townie means putting it on someone with a high risk of getting NKd. If you're going to put it on someone with a high risk of getting NKd, might as well put it on the unCCd martyr, not anyone else.

Yeah. I should stop second guessing myself. Gonna vote Vivax.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
September 17 2015 20:52 GMT
#983
On September 18 2015 05:20 Half the Sky wrote:
Digging hard through Damdred's filter right now. There's one post that he said lines up (and in turn makes Fecalfeast look either worse or lazy town, not sure atm) -

....but I'm having a tenuous time with the reasoning for him thinking LS may be scum.

Taking a harder look at Damdred.

Show nested quote +
On September 17 2015 10:46 Damdred wrote:
I can't help it, part of me loves the negative attention. And part of me withers under it.

Shining will not disagree with me, and you aren't understanding the read at all. Which is bunk at this point anyway, but shining is extremely emotionally driven even his long posts in games are emotional at points as town and you can feel the I gotcha, frustration happiness etc.

However in his scum games he is extremely dry and can't replicate the tone or feeling that he normally does as town. His early posts really fit into his scum meta while his past few posts totally destory the meta read.

Even if it makes me have no scum reads idgaf shinny is town to me now.


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On September 18 2015 02:54 Damdred wrote:
Oh shove it up your ass ff.

Calling my change on shining a flip flop is totally bullshit at best. SHINING should agree with me that my meta read is correct on him in the regard I said it.

He did things that fit with his town meta that he can't fake as scum so I read him town. So no its not a flip flop its a re evaluation so you calling it a flip flop is bullshit and just trying to influence people to look at me in a more negative light.


Ugh. Alright, went back through Damdred's/Shining's filter and I can see where this is coming from with respect to the posts Shining made. Per timestamps the Shining therapy post was after the intial scumread and then there was a 3 hour gap where the re-evaluation took place. So this at least flows.

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On September 18 2015 03:52 Damdred wrote:
The big thing that makes me doubt him is the way he's handling the situation with me saying id be ok with deadline voting ls and never doing so btw. The problem is that he is totally leaving context out of what he's saying in that I never called him scum but he was heavily hinting he could be martyr and my comment followed after rayns comment about pressuring him near start of the game.


This is the part I'm not understanding. Unless I'm having another derp moment. I thought Damdred had said "I'm fine with a deadline vote on LS" and I took that to mean that could be a scumread. I'm having trouble how he could get a scum LS read or partial read out of this. Can you clarify?


Unless I'm misunderstanding the question but what I gather is you think me saying maybe a deadline vote on. Ls is a scum read on damdred?
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
September 17 2015 20:53 GMT
#984
Last time, Palmar only announced that martyr martyr'd for someone and not who they martyred for. I don't think the martyr's target becomes confirmed town. So don't give them a free rolecop after claiming. it's literally usless
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
September 17 2015 20:53 GMT
#985
Oh yeah, usually damdred doesn't get personal/emotional as scum. I think I've seen it once, maybe twice. But usually he's "ncier" as mafia.
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
September 17 2015 20:54 GMT
#986
Damdred, can you rephrase the part of your read on LS that is making you scumread LS? You had like a 60/40 or whatever percentage town/scum read on him. I'm having trouble understanding the part where you are scumreading him.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
September 17 2015 20:55 GMT
#987
I'll be back in 30 or so. Gotta try to figure out what I can make. Hopefully I have something I can fix up.
Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
September 17 2015 20:55 GMT
#988
On September 18 2015 05:48 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 18 2015 05:46 geript wrote:
IE. like you want him to be scum more than you've proven that he's scum.

OK I understand the 3rd part may be omgus.
The second point is proof he's scum though. He said something illogical and refused to explain it

because there's nothing to explain
it was slightly different than i remembered (point still stands though)
you didnt (want to) get that point because you had too much of a hard-on for catching me in a "lie" or w/e
the end

and then you decided to waste the whole final day on it, k, your decision
A backwards poet writes inverse.
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
September 17 2015 20:55 GMT
#989
Okay I got done with it early so I will answer these questions from you HTS.
On September 18 2015 04:38 Half the Sky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 17 2015 22:11 LightningStrike wrote:
On September 17 2015 22:08 Rels wrote:
On September 17 2015 22:06 LightningStrike wrote:
Also I checked Ticktock's filter. Got him null still my main thing that bothers me is his unnatural read progression regarding me. First he called me scum than later he said I was town for some of my reactions yet it doesn't seem natural. His mind seem to change a lot with thread sentiment.

how is it different from everybody's else reactions ? (mine, HTS, rayn at the time, etc.)

He only changed with the thread sentiment O_o HTS maybe done the same thing but rayn's read progression was more natural though although he changed his read on me because apparently I reroute shit when some of the questions asked me to explain further which looks like it's rerouting -.-


Alright, so you explained this part about rayn - just saw this now, but now demonstrate how Tictock fails to do this. That's the part I'm not getting.

If you looked at ticktocks filter he never mention then I could be scum then later he mention and said I could be town with nothing about me inbetween those posts. He only brought me up when I was a hot topic of discussion.
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
September 17 2015 20:55 GMT
#990
On September 18 2015 05:50 geript wrote:
Rels, I think there's cross talk here. I've been mostly referring to LS and I think my lack of clarity is mixing up who we're talking about.

I'm fine with not lynching Fido, but I do think he's a decent check.

I was asky why you think LS is town. Like that LS read from Fido is pure chainsaw; doens't mean anything, but there's not a good reason to say "hey, LS is town here." I get that LS quite often gets himself in trouble early on; but that's true of both alignments in my experience. Hell, he resorted to bussing really hard when it was really bad to in JOAT to "feel comfortable" and get out of "called scum" zone.

I thought he was town for the way he acted emotionally when he was scumread by basically everyone. Now I agree with rayn and you that it doesn't mean much. But no way I'll lynch him over dandel unless someone explains to me how the fuck could dandel think shining was not scumreading damdred.
About the check, two things:
Fidei: I think he's town, and more than that Hts believes he s town, and she was the reason fidei was not mislynches as town d1 in personality mafia.
Damdred: you may have a townread on damdred, but understand than almost nobody else (including rayn) shares it. On this setup where we can have a green check without the inquisitor needing to claim, its the best play to check h
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
September 17 2015 20:55 GMT
#991
Him
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
September 17 2015 20:56 GMT
#992
Also I going to be getting the car soon and will try my best to get home in time of EoD.
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
September 17 2015 20:59 GMT
#993
On September 18 2015 05:55 LightningStrike wrote:
Okay I got done with it early so I will answer these questions from you HTS.
Show nested quote +
On September 18 2015 04:38 Half the Sky wrote:
On September 17 2015 22:11 LightningStrike wrote:
On September 17 2015 22:08 Rels wrote:
On September 17 2015 22:06 LightningStrike wrote:
Also I checked Ticktock's filter. Got him null still my main thing that bothers me is his unnatural read progression regarding me. First he called me scum than later he said I was town for some of my reactions yet it doesn't seem natural. His mind seem to change a lot with thread sentiment.

how is it different from everybody's else reactions ? (mine, HTS, rayn at the time, etc.)

He only changed with the thread sentiment O_o HTS maybe done the same thing but rayn's read progression was more natural though although he changed his read on me because apparently I reroute shit when some of the questions asked me to explain further which looks like it's rerouting -.-


Alright, so you explained this part about rayn - just saw this now, but now demonstrate how Tictock fails to do this. That's the part I'm not getting.

If you looked at ticktocks filter he never mention then I could be scum then later he mention and said I could be town with nothing about me inbetween those posts. He only brought me up when I was a hot topic of discussion.


Is he doing that to others? because the way you phrased it made it sound like this was a frequent issue with him. Just this one time? And what do you make of his subsequent posting?
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
September 17 2015 21:00 GMT
#994
On September 18 2015 05:56 LightningStrike wrote:
Also I going to be getting the car soon and will try my best to get home in time of EoD.


I see.

Assuming my husband doesn't pull me away before EoD, I'm hoping I can ask you a few more questions tbh :/
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
September 17 2015 21:00 GMT
#995
Can we have a vote count please ?
Is someone going to vote TT with me ? If not I'll switch to geript
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
September 17 2015 21:00 GMT
#996
Talking about grail btw
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
September 17 2015 21:01 GMT
#997
On September 18 2015 05:55 Dandel Ion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 18 2015 05:48 Rels wrote:
On September 18 2015 05:46 geript wrote:
IE. like you want him to be scum more than you've proven that he's scum.

OK I understand the 3rd part may be omgus.
The second point is proof he's scum though. He said something illogical and refused to explain it

because there's nothing to explain
it was slightly different than i remembered (point still stands though)
you didnt (want to) get that point because you had too much of a hard-on for catching me in a "lie" or w/e
the end

and then you decided to waste the whole final day on it, k, your decision

What point still stands
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
September 17 2015 21:01 GMT
#998
I grailed Vivax, but I am feeling a little better about geript the way he's been fleshing down his posts now. I think you have way more votes on geript for grail last I checked.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
September 17 2015 21:05 GMT
#999
At this time DT (whatever the actual name is) I would recommend checking Damdred or Fecalfeast.

I'm confident in James being town but people who don't know him well if they want to ping him as a lurker check, I can't fault their reasoning.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
September 17 2015 21:06 GMT
#1000
On September 18 2015 06:01 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 18 2015 05:55 Dandel Ion wrote:
On September 18 2015 05:48 Rels wrote:
On September 18 2015 05:46 geript wrote:
IE. like you want him to be scum more than you've proven that he's scum.

OK I understand the 3rd part may be omgus.
The second point is proof he's scum though. He said something illogical and refused to explain it

because there's nothing to explain
it was slightly different than i remembered (point still stands though)
you didnt (want to) get that point because you had too much of a hard-on for catching me in a "lie" or w/e
the end

and then you decided to waste the whole final day on it, k, your decision

What point still stands

his weird stance on damdred obv
A backwards poet writes inverse.
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